Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 09.05.18 07:46, Jo wrote: The whole country has 3 official languages. In the north nl is the official language, in the south fr. And a small area in the east is de. Brussels is officially bilingual. Hence all names there will be a combination of fr - nl. Normally I would expect Belgium to

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.05.2018 um 07:46 schrieb Jo: > > > I expect the same goes for Switzerland (whole country 3-4 official > languages, but at the next geographic level it is clear which language > is spoken/official for which region). > This not correct, while there are regions (as this is not strict

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Don't you think that Belgians like Jo and the rest of the Belgian community know best what the default language is in a certain area ? This can be a pretty sensitive topic, which is not always easy to understand by outsiders. So please let the Belgian community decide the default language without p

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
This was exactly my point. That it is a sensitive topic. And it may be unclear to people who live in a national state with a single official language. That is why I provided the texts of articles, to illustrate that there is a multi-language historical equilibrium reflected it the official docu

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Marc, Oleksiy, thanks for your insights! And Marc, I agree that it should always be up to the local community to decide. The only thing I ask is to please keep in mind that the "default_language" is simply a reflection of what local OSM editors have already used for the name tag in the majority of

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Jo
Marc, I probably shouldn't have mentioned Switzerland. I thought it was "nicely" divided into clear language regions, but apparently not. My only experience with it was that in the part neighboring Germany they spoke something that resembled German somewhat, but once we passed the Sankth-Gottard p

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 5/10/2018 5:43 PM, Jo wrote: Marc, I probably shouldn't have mentioned Switzerland. I thought it was "nicely" divided into clear language regions, but apparently not. My only experience with it was that in the part neighboring Germany they spoke something that resembled German somewhat, bu

[OSM-talk] Tool to change dual carriageway to sinjle preserving route relations?

2018-05-10 Thread Andrew Hain
Is there a tool that preserves bus route relations properly whlle correcting a road currently mapped as dual carriageway to predominantly single carriageway? -- Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [OSM-talk] Local language help

2018-05-10 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10. Mai 2018 18:58:04 MESZ schrieb Oleksiy Muzalyev : >On 5/10/2018 5:43 PM, Jo wrote: ... > >Indeed, Swiss German pronunciation differs from the Standard German >significantly, but it is written practically the same as the Standard >German. Just to add a bit of complexity (and to illustr

Re: [OSM-talk] Tool to change dual carriageway to sinjle preserving route relations?

2018-05-10 Thread Jo
PT_Assistant can probably be of some help to 'sanitize' them again, or at least notify you of which relations aren't continuous anymore. Polyglot 2018-05-11 0:47 GMT+02:00 Andrew Hain : > Is there a tool that preserves bus route relations properly whlle > correcting a road currently mapped as du