Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

I agree with this. Particularly Rust compiled to WebAssembly look very promising for building applications like an editor. Rust is fast and safe and it already has multiple OSM related crates. See here for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHJjmsw_Sx0 An editor written in Rust and

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

I would recommend you to use another way to archive this. Open OsmAnd on your phone and add a POI directly. You can add tags too if you remember them. Then upload directly to OSM. No JOSM or GPX file handling neccesary. Andy Townsend skrev: (3 augusti 2020 00:09:44 CEST) >On 02/08/2020 22:52,

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 12:28, Andy Townsend wrote: > > I wrote down what I was there, other people's GPS traces, etc. etc.) and that > really needs a desktop editor. +1, while mobile editors are a great addition to our toolset, they cannot substitute desktop editors. A

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

I disagree. For that sum of money I would be willing to start writing a new editor in Rust compiled to WebAssembly and desktop and reach a state of basic editing useability in 2 months. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohuTy8MmbLc Cheers Joseph Eisenberg skrev: (3 augusti 2020 01:00:49

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestions welcome | Re: Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

I agree. Skyler Hawthorne skrev: (2 augusti 2020 19:30:09 CEST) >In the absence of other proposals, even splitting it among the other >two would be a much better use, in my opinion. > >-- >Skyler > > >On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, at 13:27, Rory McCann wrote: >> On 02.08.20 01:03, Skyler Hawthorne wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Hi Matthew Woehlke skrev: (3 augusti 2020 16:14:13 CEST) >On 02/08/2020 06.05, Simon Poole wrote: > >I'm not saying iD is *bad*. It's a very nice editor *for its >capabilities*. It's great for making *small* changes or introducing >someone to OSM editing... but there are a lot of use cases

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestions welcome | Re: Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

> In the absence of other proposals, even splitting it among the other two > would be a much better use, in my opinion. Chrm. iD gets the pile of money and the MAIN OpenStreetMap editor - JOSM - gets NOTHING? Or does this show that iD is so broken/unwanted that nobody wants to work on it

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

On 04/08/2020 11:19, pangoSE wrote: I would recommend you to use another way to archive this. Open OsmAnd on your phone and add a POI directly. You can add tags too if you remember them. Then upload directly to OSM. No JOSM or GPX file handling neccesary. I use Vespucci for exactly that (no,

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

It was a joke more aimed at Rory and a continuation of the similar discussion we’ve had on the board. And yes I agree very much with the sentiment that we don’t want OSM to be dominated by companies. or any single point of view for that matter. I’ve come to not like that quote because I don’t

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

More seriously the line “all interests of the OSM community” was one we talked a lot about on the board when writing this message, and had several versions, and indeed we touched on how to best designate what was needed in composition of the panel. I think it’s not possible to put together a

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

Re: "Rory, I don't know about you, but I'm certainly hoping for a bunch of corporate sell outs rubber stamping iD decisions and squashing the common mapper into conformity. Why else would we be doing this?" This sarcastic comment is not a fair response to Christoph's concerns. While we hope that

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

On Tuesday 04 August 2020, Rory McCann wrote: > The Board hasn't decided on how the panel will be > formed/elected/appointed/choosen. Quoting from the proposal: > In appointing members of the Panel, the Board shall strive for Panel composition (membership) that reflects [...] Seems there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

Rory, I don't know about you, but I'm certainly hoping for a bunch of corporate sell outs rubber stamping iD decisions and squashing the common mapper into conformity. Why else would we be doing this? On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 04:37:00 PM EDT, Rory McCann wrote: The Board hasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

Mikel, I might be misunderstanding what you meant, but in my opinion conformity is required for this type of project, and I do hope iD/JOSM/... help us achieve that. To clarify: * features with the same meaning (type) should be mapped the same way, otherwise each consumer must understand all of

[OSM-talk] Many processes not defined | Re: Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

The Board hasn't decided on how the panel will be formed/elected/appointed/choosen. Just because the document doesn't address one issue, doesn't mean the opposite, horrible option will happen. Do you think I'm going to support some Old Boy's Network of corporate employees? What would you

[OSM-talk] Mapping feature ideas (was: Funding of three infrastructure projects)

On 04/08/2020 11.08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 4. Aug 2020, at 16:26, Matthew Woehlke wrote Obviously, this would all almost surely be a temporary mode (maybe it persists as long as JOSM is open, but isn't uploaded), but since you usually draw once, that would be fine. (Bonus points if JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Indeed, this is exactly what I was thinking. From an engineering maintenance perspective, even if you managed to get something "working", the result would be an incomprehensible mess. I don't usually like to speak in such extremes, and I certainly don't mean any offense, but in this case it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 16:53, Simon Poole wrote: > > but it isn't a good measure of what the OSMF should spend its money on, weere > applying an 80/20 rule is likely to be far more appropriate. > As I have said, I’m fine with spending 2500 on a dead proprietary technology

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Am 04.08.2020 um 17:05 schrieb Alexandre Oliveira: >> At this time nobody is proposing anything more than giving P2 a bit more >> life for a small sum of money > And as myself and others have brought up, it's not a good idea to > spend money to port P2 from a dead technology to another dead >

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

On 8/4/2020 7:21 AM, pangoSE wrote: I suggest we wait for ruffle to be ready and then compile P2 to first wasm and then decompile it into C and then translate it into rust. It can then be cleaned up and shipped to both as a desktop application and a wasm binary run in the browser. ruffle -> 

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

Hi, On 8/4/20 21:30, Christoph Hormann wrote: > Significant parts of the authority the DWG has among mappers derive from > the fact that it is not composed of political appointees. Speaking as a DWG member, I always hoped that people would judge us by the work we do, not how we got the job ;)

[OSM-talk] Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

Hello, The OSMF board just published a proposal for a software dispute resolution panel: https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/08/04/proposal-for-software-dispute-resolution-panel/ .. and is asking for comments and feedback. Please reply to this message ~ thank you. warm greetings, Dorothea

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

On Tuesday 04 August 2020, Dorothea Kazazi wrote: > > The OSMF board just published a proposal for a software > dispute resolution panel: > https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/08/04/proposal-for-software-dispu >te-resolution-panel/ I guess i am asking too much if i envision the board creating a

Re: [Talk-at] Massenedit von Industriegebieten

On 31.07.20 03:16, Woazboat wrote: Mag vielleicht noch jemand einen Blick auf diesen Changeset werfen? Der User wurde vor zwei Tagen erstellt und editiert seither kreuz und quer vorrangig Industriegelände auf der halben Welt. Die anderen Changesets dieses Users sehen, soweit ich das nach kurzem

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Could we move all the programming language du jour fanboying, apps that have nothing to do OSM and other unrelated to the topic discussions somewhere else please? And yes it underlines my point that regardless of how exotic the feature is, you are always going to find somebody that finds it

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

> At this time nobody is proposing anything more than giving P2 a bit more life > for a small sum of money And as myself and others have brought up, it's not a good idea to spend money to port P2 from a dead technology to another dead technology, if people still use it it's much more beneficial

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 16:26, Matthew Woehlke wrote > > Obviously, this would all almost surely be a temporary mode (maybe it > persists as long as JOSM is open, but isn't uploaded), but since you usually > draw once, that would be fine. (Bonus points if JOSM could

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

On 04/08/2020 05.30, pangoSE wrote: On older hardware like my 2 core 2ghz laptop iD is slow. Loading while saving an edit is slow, while JOSM is always fast and saving does not close the edit view so you can continue without waiting for a browser to load the iD editor again which is also

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

mmd skrev: (2 augusti 2020 11:31:21 CEST) >On 2020-08-01 12:42, Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> Ruffle is showing promise (https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle) and >is >> under very active development, but does not yet support AS3 or the >Flash >> Player features that P2 needs. I would anticipate

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Martin Koppenhoefer skrev: (3 augusti 2020 01:10:09 CEST) > > >sent from a phone > >> On 2. Aug 2020, at 18:11, Guillaume Rischard > wrote: >> >> As someone who’s listed as having used 9 different editors on >https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Stereo (including “unknown”), I know how >important the

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

sent from a phone > On 4. Aug 2020, at 13:58, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > > but I would practically *kill* for JOSM to have FreeCAD's suite of sketch > constraints ;-). you’re aware that there are sketch constraints for configurable angles (90, 60, 45 etc) and projection snaps? Hit 2 times

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

We should not ask anyone to do 2 months development work for 2500 euros. I believe this size grant is only enough for 1 to 2 weeks, based on international prices (though I do not have any paid experience in this field) - Joseph Eisenberg On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:08 AM pangoSE wrote: > I

[OSM-talk] Celebrate OSM birthday on 2020-08-08

Hi all, I haven't seen OSM's birthday mentioned yet here this year: mark your calendars https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/08/01/celebrate-the-16th-osm-anniversary/ -jeff -- Jeff McKenna MapServer Consulting and Training Services co-founder of FOSS4G http://gatewaygeo.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

On 04/08/2020 08.10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 4. Aug 2020, at 13:58, Matthew Woehlke wrote: but I would practically *kill* for JOSM to have FreeCAD's suite of sketch constraints ;-). you’re aware that there are sketch constraints for configurable angles (90, 60, 45 etc) and projection

Re: [talk-cz] Mazání starých uzavírek

Opatrně s tím fullauto módem...je toho tolik, aby to muselo běžet celosvětově a bez kontroly? Medle tenhle postup "stroj udělá změny, člověk po kontrole commitne changeset" se celkem osvědčil... různý nečekaný stavy vylezou až po delším provozu. Zdar, HPM Dne út 4. 8. 2020 7:05 uživatel Marián

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] {Disarmed} Re: Pourquoi inventer un aire urbaine imaginaire ?

Oui aussi pourquoi pas mais je me pose quand même la question de la source utilisée pour ajouter autant de panneaux. Romain De : Gad Jo À : Discussions sur OSM en français ;    Romain MEHUT ;    talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Sujet : Re: [OSM-talk-fr] {Disarmed} Re: Pourquoi inventer un aire

Re: [talk-cz] Mazání starých uzavírek

Tak hotovo, sada změn https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88913147  . Nahráno pod mým importním účtem.   Můžu to dělat pravidelně, třeba současně se schránkami (dnes konečně má pošta data nového měsíce, včera ještě nebyla).   U těch

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pourquoi inventer un aire urbaine imaginaire ?

> Au lieu de supprimer autant de nœud, pourquoi ne pas remonter cette anomalie vers Osmose pour ajouter un nouveau contrôle ? Peut-être parce que la seule possibilité c'est de supprimer cette infox. Sur les 4639 points ajoutés par notre ami, approximativement 703 sont sur des highway (703

Re: [talk-cz] Mazání starých uzavírek

Jak přesně se to implementuje je na diskusi. Kolik toho je celosvětově netuším. To by se musela udělat nějaká analýza. Možná toho není tolik, ale třeba by to stálo za to. Už jen proto, že se pak stará data nepletou do spracování, není potřeba je stahovat a následně zahazovat. Marián

[OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Bonjour à tous, Et si on s'organisait un projet du mois en septembre, par exemple sur les défibrillateurs (DAE) ? :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Project_of_the_month/Defibrillateurs # Pourquoi les défibrillateurs ? Il y a quelques semaines, la Direction Générale de la Santé a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pourquoi inventer un aire urbaine imaginaire ?

Je me suis mal exprimé L'analyse Osmose serait pour les point d'entrée de ville. Pas pour les way qui ne respecte pas les admin_level existant Si ça peut permettre de placer les panneaux d'entrée/sortie de commune ce serait pas mal (et autres infos placée au même endroit) Le August 4, 2020

[Talk-es] Consulta de la OSMF: reestructuración de la Dirección de Asesoría, financiación del desarrollo de los editores de OSM

Buenas tardes/noches, envío por primera vez un correo a esta lista. De hecho es la primera vez que envío un correo a una lista de correos. Por sugerencia de un administrador del grupo de Telegram OSM España, envío la traducción al español del debate que tuve con algunos miembros de OSM UK en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, PanierAvide wrote: [...] > Il y a quelques semaines, la Direction Générale de la Santé a publié sa > base GéoDAE (en cours de constitution), qui recense les défibrillateurs > du pays. [...] > En parallèle, dans OSM sur la France, on compte ~6500 défibrillateurs. > Évidemment

[OSM-talk-fr] Aire du viaduc de Millau

Bonsoir, En rentrant de Clermont-Ferrand pour aller vers le sud avec une halte à l'aire du viaduc de Millau j'ai eu droit à une belle erreur de routage. J'étais invité à descendre 15km plus au sud en ignorant l'aire pour remonter vers le nord et rejoindre l'aire Après simulation avec Osmand,

[Talk-es] ayuda con diferentes tipos de aparcamiento

Hola En estos días, sobre todo los fines de semana, me encuentro mapeando la ciudad de Alicante, y tengo algunas dudas acerca de emplear áreas, nodos o combinaciones de etiquetas en las zonas de aparcamiento reservadas. En concreto, estas son mis dudas por partes: APARCAMIENTO PARA

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Une partie (à priori) des données d'AED Map sont publiées sur data.gouv : https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/defibrillateurs-publics/ Cela ne concerne que ceux déclarés par les collectivités, donc pas la partie contribution bénévole. Une fusion de ces jeux de données en août 2019 par

Re: [Talk-us] Mtb Route Relations

Following this thread. I have the same question, after recently moving the names that folks had added to the way (and bridge) segments, of a linear park spanning lower Michigan, to the relations representing the trail segment. The entire trail is known as " The Great Lake-to-Lake Trails" [image:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Le 04/08/2020 à 15:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Hello, Ce qui m'emmerde dans tout ca, c'est surtout cette histoire de licence (et pas que pour ce projet) puisque Geo DAE est en LO donc incompatible dans le sens OSM => GeoDEA, alors que des contributeurs sont prêts à améliorer les données.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag Info France en panne ?

Bonjour, Le souci de nombres incorrects sur http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr a été corrigé. Merci de reporter tout nouveau problème qui pourrait apparaitre -- Jocelyn Le 10/07/2020 à 09:41, Christian Quest a écrit : > Le 09/07/2020 à 23:36, Christian Rogel a écrit : >> Je n’ai vu nulle part

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag Info France en panne ?

Le 04/08/2020 à 18:37, Jocelyn Jaubert a écrit : Bonjour, Le souci de nombres incorrects sur http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr a été corrigé. Merci de reporter tout nouveau problème qui pourrait apparaitre Bonsoir, merci pour la correction http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/search?q=ref%3AFR

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Chantiers d'été pour OSM-FR ;)

Je me demande pourquoi les océans ne pourraient pas être découpés arbitrairement en cellules plus nombreuses juxtaposées en damier, pour ensuite réduire cette dépendance à une complexité de plus en plus exponentielle qu'on accroît la complexité des côtes. Ne peut-on pas envisager de limiter TOUS

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Le 04/08/2020 à 12:29, PanierAvide a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Et si on s'organisait un projet du mois en septembre, par exemple sur les défibrillateurs (DAE) ? :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Project_of_the_month/Defibrillateurs # Pourquoi les défibrillateurs ? Il y a quelques

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Et c'est d'autant plus intéressant de travailler avec eux maintenant, puisque la communauté peut clairement apporter la précision et qualité qui manquent actuellement dans la base officielle. Si leur base était déjà exhaustive et propre, on aurait plus grand chose à apporter ;-) J'ai

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Les licences... éternelle prise de tête pour (presque) aucune valeur ajoutée ;-) On peut peut-être les convaincre de passer sur l'Odbl, ça s'est fait pour les adresses pourquoi pas ici. Adrien P. Le 04/08/2020 à 15:32, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Hello, Ce qui m'emmerde dans tout ca, c'est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet du mois de septembre (en préparation) : défibrillateurs !

Hello, Ce qui m'emmerde dans tout ca, c'est surtout cette histoire de licence (et pas que pour ce projet) puisque Geo DAE est en LO donc incompatible dans le sens OSM => GeoDEA, alors que des contributeurs sont prêts à améliorer les données. Donat ___