Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-03 Thread maning sambale
Yes a gpx editing tool is nice within JOSM.

What I am looking for are some cases where JOSM or lets make it a bit
broader, the OSM editing/worflow being used outside OSM.
There are discussions in the geospatial world about collaborative
maintenance of geodatasets.  OSM does it already.
All tools are free, the api is easy to understand (I guess).

So if  x company wants to do something for collaborative mapping
they can use the OSM stack  for data input.  Are there cases where
it has been used already?




On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote:
 ... But does the .gpx editor need to be part of josm? As you know, there are
 many available on-line - my personal favourite is GPS Utility at
 http://www.gpsu.co.uk/ ... I usually clean up my track log as soon as I can
 on return to base (including converting it to whatever format, e.g. .gpx, I
 might need for a particular purpose). At the same time I add at least a
 descriptive (to me ) name ... And, as soon as I have time, I annotate the
 waypoints from my voice recorded notes. Once that is done my ageing memory
 can relax and the actual upload and mapping (whether josm or potlatch) can
 wait until I have time to play!


 Mike Harris

 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Hawtin [mailto:kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.au]
 Sent: 03 February 2009 03:28
 To: maning sambale
 Cc: osm-talk
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

 hi maning,

 maning sambale wrote:
 JOSM is an excellent data editing tool (hey I also love potlatch!).
 Many of of its features I would love integrated in some FOSS GIS
 editing toolbox.
 That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM
 as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

 what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
 just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started and
 stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...
 also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

 one of the issues i have is that i can spend a fair bit of time trailing and
 can upload those trails, but don't always have the notes to go with to
 identify the specific journey. you have to upload the trail to the web site
 before you know where it is, and them edit the other attributes to go with
 it. so being able to use josm to get your bearings about which GPS trail it
 is before uploading it would be handy...

 this may not be what you had in mind, but a .gpx editor/manager would help a
 lot to get more of my trails up so folks can make use of them =)

 regards,

 kim
 --
 Operating Systems, Services and Operations Information Technology Services,
 The University of Adelaide kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.au







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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega

On Tue, February 3, 2009 10:14, maning sambale wrote:
 So if  x company wants to do something for collaborative mapping
 they can use the OSM stack  for data input.  Are there cases where
 it has been used already?

It doesn't have to be collaborative at all - I do think that the OSM
software stack is capable of replacing a traditional GIS stack for some
use cases, keeping the data propietary.

Expect to hear something from me about this topic in a few months... maybe
for SOTM'09.


P.S.: Maning, I haven't forgotten about your data imports... I'm just
quite busy fixing up a couple of million nodes worth of
waterway=riverbank.

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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Kim Hawtin
hi maning,

maning sambale wrote:
 JOSM is an excellent data editing tool (hey I also love potlatch!).
 Many of of its features I would love integrated in some FOSS GIS
 editing toolbox.
 That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM
 as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started
and stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...
also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

one of the issues i have is that i can spend a fair bit of time
trailing and can upload those trails, but don't always have the
notes to go with to identify the specific journey. you have to upload
the trail to the web site before you know where it is, and them edit
the other attributes to go with it. so being able to use josm to get
your bearings about which GPS trail it is before uploading it would
be handy...

this may not be what you had in mind, but a .gpx editor/manager would
help a lot to get more of my trails up so folks can make use of them =)

regards,

kim
-- 
Operating Systems, Services and Operations
Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide
kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.au

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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 Feb 2009 8:20:02 am maning sambale wrote:
 That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM
 as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

I use it along with osmarender and inkscape to generate custom maps of golf 
courses - does that count?

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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Kim Hawtin kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.auwrote:

 hi maning,

 maning sambale wrote:
  JOSM is an excellent data editing tool (hey I also love potlatch!).
  Many of of its features I would love integrated in some FOSS GIS
  editing toolbox.
  That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM
  as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

 what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
 just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started
 and stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...
 also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

 one of the issues i have is that i can spend a fair bit of time
 trailing and can upload those trails, but don't always have the
 notes to go with to identify the specific journey. you have to upload
 the trail to the web site before you know where it is, and them edit
 the other attributes to go with it. so being able to use josm to get
 your bearings about which GPS trail it is before uploading it would
 be handy...

 this may not be what you had in mind, but a .gpx editor/manager would
 help a lot to get more of my trails up so folks can make use of them =)

 regards,

 kim


I agree, a simple GPX editor (basically to split or merge tracks, and
possibly to upload to OSM) integrated into JOSM would be ideal. In the
meantime, there's Viking (viking.sourceforge.net), a GPS data management
software which supports a number of OSM layers as background and allows
uploading GPX tracks to OSM.

Karl
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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Helllo
Le mardi 03 février 2009 à 04:27, Kim Hawtin a écrit :
 what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
 just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started
 and stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...

Yes i'd also like to have such editing features.

 also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

Splitting can easily be done manually with a text editor, GPX files are XML 
files with a simple structure.

 one of the issues i have is that i can spend a fair bit of time
 trailing and can upload those trails, but don't always have the
 notes to go with to identify the specific journey. you have to upload
 the trail to the web site before you know where it is, and them edit
 the other attributes to go with it. so being able to use josm to get
 your bearings about which GPS trail it is before uploading it would
 be handy...

You may open GPX files in JOSM before you upload them.

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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Maarten Deen
Kim Hawtin wrote:
 hi maning,

 maning sambale wrote:
 JOSM is an excellent data editing tool (hey I also love potlatch!).
 Many of of its features I would love integrated in some FOSS GIS
 editing toolbox.
 That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM
 as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

 what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
 just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started
 and stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...
 also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

Second that. Basically what is now possible with Garmin's Mapsource: see GPX
tracks, edit them, display them on a map. For that there will also need to be
more map-downloading than z12 tiles only.

Maarten


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Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

2009-02-02 Thread Mike Harris
... But does the .gpx editor need to be part of josm? As you know, there are
many available on-line - my personal favourite is GPS Utility at
http://www.gpsu.co.uk/ ... I usually clean up my track log as soon as I can
on return to base (including converting it to whatever format, e.g. .gpx, I
might need for a particular purpose). At the same time I add at least a
descriptive (to me ) name ... And, as soon as I have time, I annotate the
waypoints from my voice recorded notes. Once that is done my ageing memory
can relax and the actual upload and mapping (whether josm or potlatch) can
wait until I have time to play! 


Mike Harris

-Original Message-
From: Kim Hawtin [mailto:kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.au] 
Sent: 03 February 2009 03:28
To: maning sambale
Cc: osm-talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] usercases for josm outside osm

hi maning,

maning sambale wrote:
 JOSM is an excellent data editing tool (hey I also love potlatch!).
 Many of of its features I would love integrated in some FOSS GIS 
 editing toolbox.
 That being said, are there user cases where JOSM is used outside OSM 
 as a GIS editing app?  Please share your experiences.

what i'd really like is a mode where i can edit the GPS trails.
just top and tailing the junk off the ends where the GPS was started and
stopped, any time where you are are effectively indoors...
also splitting large GPS trails into smaller more manageable sections.

one of the issues i have is that i can spend a fair bit of time trailing and
can upload those trails, but don't always have the notes to go with to
identify the specific journey. you have to upload the trail to the web site
before you know where it is, and them edit the other attributes to go with
it. so being able to use josm to get your bearings about which GPS trail it
is before uploading it would be handy...

this may not be what you had in mind, but a .gpx editor/manager would help a
lot to get more of my trails up so folks can make use of them =)

regards,

kim
--
Operating Systems, Services and Operations Information Technology Services,
The University of Adelaide kim.haw...@adelaide.edu.au




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