Re: [Tango-L] No dancing before the music

2008-02-20 Thread doug
anton So it's not the nuevo aspect of Tango music I dislike. It's the bastardisation of a music genre to appease those dancers who don't like Tango music. /anton Anton - Instead of just complaining, why not organize an all classic tango night in your local community and see what kind of crowd you

Re: [Tango-L] No dancing before the music

2008-02-20 Thread doug
antonYou have labeled Tango classic tango. To me there is Tango or non Tango. /anton Anton: Defining the dance strictly by the music creates a very slippery slope. Tell me - what is tango? Is it only OT Victor and the Old Guard? Does it move forward in time to D'Arienzo (who still played a lot

Re: [Tango-L] Beginners and milongas

2008-02-15 Thread doug
agree with Carol Shepherd's comments regarding the negative impact of tandas on beginners)? Yes, not PC and totally culturally incorrect. But it might help get dancers, especially younger dancers, having fun and dancing a lot sooner. It might even get them to stick. doug

Re: [Tango-L] beginners and milonga

2008-02-15 Thread doug
to lead anything. I could have fun without the fear and trepidation that paralized me when I tried to dance tango. One less thing to worry about and to screw up. doug ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango

Re: [Tango-L] Keep it simple

2008-01-14 Thread doug
are talking about. I've not been to BaAs, so perhaps you could point me at a clear video or two that you feel fairly represents the dance that you know. Thank you, Doug ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Tango-L] Puma Shoes

2007-12-21 Thread doug
. Doug ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l

[Tango-L] [OT][OT] Extreme dancing

2007-12-19 Thread doug
Igor Nuevo Balboa? Hmm, looks like recorded in 30s http://youtube.com/watch?v=p4nq_tv0dSA http://youtube.com/watch?v=p4nq_tv0dSAfeature=related feature=related /Igor Yes. Is from a Soundie out of the late 30's. Igor And this is, I guess Milonguero style of the same dancing:

Re: [Tango-L] Inspiration and Imitation: role models

2007-12-19 Thread doug
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7683557118247598290 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7683557118247598290q=CAPPUSSItot al=16start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=7 q=CAPPUSSItotal=16start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=7 D. ___ Tango-L

Re: [Tango-L] Inspiration and Imitation: role models

2007-12-19 Thread doug
Don't know what happened, so lets try this again!! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7683557118247598290q=CAPPUSSItota l=16start=0num=10so=0type=searchplindex=7 D. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

[Tango-L] [OT?] New dance, same old issues.

2007-12-18 Thread doug
date but could recall it if pressed. Willie passed a couple of years ago but Ann, who is over 90, is still dancing. http://youtube.com/watch?v=bMBzJ8BaBr4 Doug You can flame me now or flame me later. But y'r gonna flame me. ___ Tango-L mailing list

Re: [Tango-L] [OT] Men|Women|Dancing Ability [WAS Re: Don't blame your follower]

2007-12-17 Thread doug
steve The song used in the Gap commercial was swing, not blues. Music for The Gap Khaki Swing comes from Louis Primaâ??s swing number, â??Jump, Jive anâ?? Wailâ??, performed by Brian Setzer and Orchestra. /steve Wait. Way off topic, but I have to “jump” into this. Prima did not play swing,

[Tango-L] Boleo Contra-boleo

2007-12-16 Thread doug
I'm confused. I thought: Circular boleo - I rotate woman and then stop or reverse her rotation. Free leg continues to create boleo. Circular contra-boleo - I initiate rotation and free leg remains behind creating boleo. If I understand correctly, her leg goes nowhere(!) in contra-boleo, just

[Tango-L] Welcoming beginners to tango.

2007-12-06 Thread doug
Based on discussions here, it might be useful if some of you took up Balkan folk dance, or hustle, or lindy hop, or something you know nothing about. Become rank beginner again. Maybe some of you forget what it is like to be clueless about dance and what learning process is. Is not always

Re: [Tango-L] Who leads what, who follows what

2007-12-02 Thread doug
, but it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  I assumed based on his comments, perhaps mistakenly, that Doug has become a bona fide tango junkie. I took no offense at remarks Trini, and tango junkie, yes. Regular partner I dance tango maybe 12 hours per week for 1 year now.  600 hours?  Sounds

Re: [Tango-L] Who leads what, who follows what

2007-12-02 Thread doug
Steve Pastor wrote: Shall we blame Max Roach for this? I don't play, but I believe he was quite revolutionary in his approach to drumming. But, jazz parted ways with dancers when bebop became popular. So Dance background is 12 years swing partnered jazz dance. Dizzy Gillespie was

Re: [Tango-L] Who leads what, who follows what

2007-12-02 Thread doug
Manuel wrote: Something does not compute in this program. And more I cut out to make short. --- I think each person decides for himself what is good tango dancing. I don't judge. After all, is just dance. Is fun. Is not my work. Maybe you stop reading

[Tango-L] Who leads what who follows what

2007-12-01 Thread doug
I am lead. Have been instructed to always lead very footfall of follow, every weight change of follow, every boleo, gancho usw.. Follow adds style, follow adds embellishment. I shape dance, she adds nuance. I lead beats, phrasing, musical structure of dance. Follow works within structure to