Re: Song of the Month-December 2010
Thought I learned this tune once but I could use a brush-up. Send me a copy of the slow version. Thanks. Pat - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:47:17 AM Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010 I might add, I've got a copy of the Hatcher version slowed down to about 60% and corrected the pitch if anyone wants that version. Lemme know. Buggs On Nov 28, 4:10 pm, Alexander, Jeffrey jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote: Count me in for one. -Original Message- From: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugma...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mistertaterbug Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:16 PM To: Taterbugmando Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010 I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it. Bugger On Nov 27, 6:23 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for those of us who don't have the original to listen to? The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a bit tricky, no? Signed, Thankful in NM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Letterman!
Mike, You look good in anything you play! PM - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:20:28 AM Subject: Re: Letterman! Oh come on now, ya'll just walk it off! I made myself a promise long ago that if there was enough zeros on the check I'd put on a tie. So I'm keeping my word. As much as I like a pair of bibs(and despise a belt), when everybody else is dolled up it seems (and looks) a bit callous to ignore the dress code. The pickup is a Baggs Radius. The cable hookup is just a regular male end cable. Nothing fancy. I have been running it through a very small pedal board with mini amp/boost, ART tube preamp, power supply, and tuner and all that through a Fishman Loudbox Performer and used that for my monitor. The other end was run into a DI box. But for the last four shows I just ran it either straight into a DI and used a wedge for monitor or used a rented amp without pedal board. Too much stuff to worry about. More gizmos...gimme more gizmos... As for playing with drums, yea, it relieves me of having to play all the time and lets me just play pads and fills and rhythm when I want, to subdivide the rhythm and play accents on the melody line instead of just play chops. Plus, it's a BIG help not having to carry so much of the load. Now, let's all chip in and by David Davis some Geritol! Tbugger On Nov 2, 3:30 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounded good up there with those drums and that electric dobro Sir Tater. Is this your first go round with drums? Do you find yourself altering your playing much, with the drums? -Trey On Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 10:37 AM EDT Mark Seale wrote: I enjoyed the music... I saw EC and company in Austin last year in the first go round and it was very good. But Tater wearing a belt? That's just wrong... M On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote: Its different but nothing wrong with an extra pay check. The band all looked good, music making was good. I know there are some mando feature spots in the project, or presume so, just not on the Letterman cllip. Dang. Would have been good though to see a real deal bluegrass effort, ahem . on Letterman. linda On Nov 2, 3:36 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Tater's on Letterman with Elvis Costello tonight. I can't really count all of the things wrong with this. He's plugged in. It ain't Monroe. And the biggest sin of all no bib overalls... For shame! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Bill Bessie Lee movie announced
I don't know what time period this movie will cover but I can't imagine anyone but Gene Hackman in the role of Bill Monroe in his later days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: A tune
That's a real winner, Don! The tune is creative and has good drive. The mandolin playing is terrific. Good guitar too, by the way. It's a keeper for sure. Thanks for sending this out. Pat - Original Message - From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:24:44 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: A tune Well, it's awfully quiet on the Tater front. Guess I'll share a tune from a live recording of a show we played 2 weekends ago. It was in an old schoolhouse converted to a gallery out here in the middle of nowhere in western New Mexico. I took my laptop and interface and multitracked it because we're trying to put together a demo. Anyway, this one turned out good--to my ear anyway. The tune is called Sleepy Meadow and it's one I wrote for Frank Wakefield. I took a bunch of his ideas and stirred them up with my own and spit out this tune. Of course, in trying to do my worst backwards talking, instead of calling it Wake Field I called it Sleepy Meadow... the alternative title is Frank Incensed. The group is called Sons of Others and features Gregg Daigle on guitar, Justin McClauchlin on bass, and me on mandolin--I'm playing a Campanella Due at this show. Mics are 57s on instruments run into a Peavy mixer for the house sound, I tapped the inserts and ran it into a Presonus Firestudio, recorded/mixed in Logic Express at 24/44.1 for any of you who care. I also put up a room mic which really added a sense of the space and natural reverb to it. This is a first rough mix but I liked it enough to want to share it. http://www.dongrieser.net/transfer/sleepy.mp3 -- My CD of original tunes played on mandolin, mandola, and mandocello http://www.HillbillyChamberMusic.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Just a thought...
This was a kick from beginning to end! Thanks for the treat, Tater. Pat - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:13:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Just a thought... This might interest some of you folks. I was sent this by one of my high school classmates, a lady motorcycle rider in Texas that loves to fish. Kind of makes me want to go by some scrap lumber and a few sheets of tin and a coal-oil lamp... http://www.coolestone.com/media/882/Retirement_Investing_-_Just_A_Couple_Of_Good_Ole_Boys/ whee doggies... Taterbug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: happy Birthday spud man
Hope you got the cake I faxed you. Chow down, Taterpicker! Phreepicker - Original Message - From: Robert Feivor rfei...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 4:25:50 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: happy Birthday spud man HAPPY HAPPY B-DAY SPUD KING - RF On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Birthday! I heard you were thinking of starting to take the mandolin seriously this year ;-) 2010/3/1, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com : I'll bring the cake where we meeting? On Mar 1, 9:07 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: I think both is appropriate just to cover all your bases. Happy Birthday Tater! M On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: For the leap year challenged, do you celebrate the 28th or March 1st on non leap year years? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:45 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Bithday Mike! Add an extra 10 minutes to the elipitcal to make up for the cake ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- My CD of original tunes played on mandolin, mandola, and mandocello http://www.HillbillyChamberMusic.com http://www.hillbillychambermusic.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.
Hi Mike, me again. After hearing you play last Saturday night I went back and re-read your declaration below. Either you've improved immensely already or you are damn hard on yourself. So am I, but I tend to forgive myself too easily. (There I go again.) Anyway, re-reading your personal renewal statement and hearing and seeing you play has re-inspired me. I got the CD Pieces of Time and I've committed myself to learn the mando breaks in all the tunes note for note, or damn close to it. When I say learn them I mean play them just like they sound on the CD, or real close to it. There's some good tunes on there in tempos I think I can handle. I'm shooting for about a six month target, two weeks per tune. My 70th birthday is next October so this will be my present to myself. I may need a little help from you from time to time and will holler when I do. I see you did some playing on the CD too but I can't tell you from Monroe. No need to respond to this note. Just wanted to make my commitment known for a little added pressure. Pat - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:25:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Starting from scratchsort of. Okay, I've decided to go back to the drawing board. It's been looming on the horizon for some time, bugging me, nagging at me in the back of my mind, one of those things that I know needs doing. So here goes... While it's true that I've taken some flack of late from uneducated n'er-do-wells with snappy comments regarding the slop I play and how I'm apparently luckier than Kenny G in my musical success based upon my apparent lack of ability to be an actual musician, this is not the basis for my conclusion that things need to change. There's a lot of things that need changing around here really, and the musical aspect is only one of the pieces of the puzzle. I'm getting fed up with feeling like the weak link in so many chains, not all of them musical. Call it a delayed New Year's Resolution list, if you will. As middle age comes and settles in more firmly I find myself wanting to play better, to understand more, to feel a connection with what I'm doing that's not been there in quite some time. Yes, I've been winging it. But then I suppose I've not fooled everybody judging by the latest flurry of comments and my own personal feelings of musical unrest. I need a feeling of belonging to what I'm doing, I need to feel I'm doing it well, that it's a part of me. So far, no cigar. I sat here today and played Black Joke w/Variations as I do every couple days(or so...there's part of the problem right there; lack of consistency and regularity) and made a greater effort to play the notes cleanly and with character. Egad. You'd think I never saw this exercise before. I used to play at it every day, every morning first thing, out on the porch with the mando and the 'dola to do my ritual, my mando-meditation. But now I'm playing it and paying attention to detail in a different way. I am reworking my right hand some due to feeling some wear and tear over the last 38 years and it's hard, REAL hard. I'm working on making it work smoothly and relaxed, but feeling strong and sure. I'm watching my pick angle. I'm watching how much motion I use to make the strokes, how I cross over strings to get to the next, listening to the sound of the notes, the evenness of the tremolo(or not, in this case), watching my pick angle, etc. Everything I can think of. And I know that the more I work, the more things will turn up that need attention. Truth is, I spend a lot of time working, but not efficiently. I waste 30 minutes here, an hour there not focused on anything. Now I don't mean to say that putting one's brain out of gear now and again is not a good idea, but being on auto-pilot all the time, not filtering what goes in and comes out, is not really a good idea. So, the tune books are out, the paper is out, the iTunes list is open, lyrics are at easy reach. I'm not sure I even know how to accomplish what I want to get done. If I sit and ponder it too hard the task will just seem like too much of a mountain to climb. Maybe in pieces small enough to chew is the way to go, but I feel like now I have to chew all the time to get ahead and see real success, real progress. Real progress will instill passion for success. I find I've got a lot more things I want to get done, and feeling I'm playing at the level I think I should be is high on the list. I have raised my standards for myself. I have quite a collection of material I want to learn and explore. The list grows and I just sit and watch it without whittling any of it away. I know myself well enough to know that this will all nag me in the back of my mind until I do something about it. Here I go... mistertaterbug -- You received this message because you are
Re: Thought this might be of interest
Finally got a chance to watch the Bill Monroe film last night. A couple things struck me: -The economy of motion in Monroe's right and left hands. He barely raises his fingers above the fretboard and the pick only travels as far as it needs to. - He rarely goes up the neck. Usually just to hit a higher note on the E string, not to show off. - When he hits extra open strings or double stops on a melody it sounds right. When I do it, it sounds like a mistake! I'm sure there's more to learn from that film. I need to watch it again several times. Murph - Original Message - From: Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:46:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Thought this might be of interest http://www.folkstreams.net/film,210 Lots of other great stuff up there as well if you browse around. Banjo Spirits: http://www.folkstreams.net/film,183 has Don Stover doing a beautiful version of Things in Life. Enjoy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
How about a Tater Masher? - Original Message - From: Michael Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:35:40 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam I am still waiting for the Compton endorsed Capo to come outWhat would that be called anywaysA Tater Clamp or something? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Has everyone bought their capos yet? TBug On Nov 19, 11:02 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few versions of Sally... played in G printed in the more available fiddle tune books. One version I like, Black Sally Goodin was played by black fiddler Bill Caton from Missouri (maybe where Gene got it?) and can be found in the first edition of R.P. Christeson's Old-Time Fiddler's Repertory. TBug On Nov 19, 8:39 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Some fiddlers in New England play a Sally Gooden in G, I also have heard Gene Goforth doing it out of G. I really like the idea of learning an A tune in G in case the banjo player doesn't have a capo. Just another excuse to see how different keys relate/differ from each other. On Nov 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, 14strings wrote: Erik I like your idea about learning tunes that are traditionally played out of A, in G. Jody Stecher does a real nice version of Sally Goodin out of G; it's on the Mandolin 2000 Mel Bay book.(I think Mel changed the title of that book since it's initial publication) Elliot is my favorite guitar capo; it has a thumb screw on there so you can get just the right amoint of tension to get a clear note but without putting the strings out of tune. The design lets you store it right behind the nut when not capoing; a major advantage in my book. D'Addario's Planet Waves just came out with a $15 capo that works on the same principle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl= . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl= . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=.
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
Got mine several years ago before I heard it wasn't cool to use one. Did use it once in public at a wedding when the singer decided at the last minute to move the key up a half step. Worked fine. I got the kind with the thumb screw behind the neck. Now when are they going to develop a voice capo so I can sing high harmony? Phreepicker - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:10:49 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam Has everyone bought their capos yet? TBug On Nov 19, 11:02 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few versions of Sally... played in G printed in the more available fiddle tune books. One version I like, Black Sally Goodin was played by black fiddler Bill Caton from Missouri (maybe where Gene got it?) and can be found in the first edition of R.P. Christeson's Old-Time Fiddler's Repertory. TBug On Nov 19, 8:39 am, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Some fiddlers in New England play a Sally Gooden in G, I also have heard Gene Goforth doing it out of G. I really like the idea of learning an A tune in G in case the banjo player doesn't have a capo. Just another excuse to see how different keys relate/differ from each other. On Nov 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, 14strings wrote: Erik I like your idea about learning tunes that are traditionally played out of A, in G. Jody Stecher does a real nice version of Sally Goodin out of G; it's on the Mandolin 2000 Mel Bay book.(I think Mel changed the title of that book since it's initial publication) Elliot is my favorite guitar capo; it has a thumb screw on there so you can get just the right amoint of tension to get a clear note but without putting the strings out of tune. The design lets you store it right behind the nut when not capoing; a major advantage in my book. D'Addario's Planet Waves just came out with a $15 capo that works on the same principle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl= . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=.
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
My favorite expression on individuality is: Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken. Regards%2C%0D%0A%0D%0APat - Original Message - From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Cc: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:56:54 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam Alright at the advice of everyone I am going to just be myself then. I am keeping my tuner on my headstock and no one is going to stop me! Mike Hedding On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:53 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone cares to, go to Remember the Cross and That Home Above by the Monroe/Flatt/Scruggs/Wise/Rainwater band. One is clearly B, the other B flat. But, they are both clearly played out of A. There are a number of other noteworthy cuts, The First Whippoorwill for one, that are played out of one key but are clearly not pitched in that key. So, did fucking Bill Monroe (to quote fucking Gaudreau) tune up or capo up? It's not tape drag. As Terry Bullin once said,Well, maybe he did it in the studio but surely he wouldn't have done it out in public. It's just silly. If the situation requires a different voice and the capo provides it, use it. When did it become against the rules to use the tools? I started using a capo now and then due to saving time and aggravation in the studio. Also, open tunings. I'd really love to use more open tunings. Listen to the cut on Dr. Ralph's recording of Lift Him Up. That's tuned open, but there were a few songs where we tuned open only to have TBone say that he'd like to go up a half step. Now, retuning 8 strings on a mandolin every which way and expecting it to settle down in a few minutes is just unreasonable. Slapping on a capo is not, especially when time is money. As for working up solos and improvising... I think that maybe we can go back to the Father one more time and consider this approach. Over the years, if I listen to songs that Monroe did over a number of decades, such as Uncle Pen, On and On, Bluegrass Breakdown, etc, what I hear is a script, a framework over which variations are applied. I'm not talking about the construction of the song so much as I am the construction of his solos in the song. It seems that he worked out a solo that served as the basic pattern to follow, but changed small aspects of it occasionally as his whim dictated. But the basic script was predominantly the same. This may be helpful, maybe not. Just thought I'd throw it out there. I had a short conversation with Russ Barenburg the other day and the subject of improvisation came up. He said that he occasionally has people ask him about improvising, as do I. It's really an individual learning experience and there doesn't seem to be any one way to approach it or teach it. He said that to him it is ridiculous to assume that it is possible to whip out an improvised solo that rivals something that requires one sitting down and working it out and learning it over the course of say, several months. But that seems to be what some people assume they will be able to do with a few rules. I think that it is easy to overlook the fact that the sound our heros have/had did not just appear overnight but took sometimes a lifetime of blood, sweat, and tears to acquire. There is too much impatience in us all. I think that Eric has a valid point, that being each song deserves a look to see what the best approach is. I agree with Eric too (Who is this Eric guy? He seems to know a lot of stuff...) regarding using tunings and capos, if a person wants a specific sound, go where it is regardless of how you need to get there. As John Hartford used to say (and I know I've quoted him saying this before...), This is art and there ain't no damned rules. Be bold, be yourself, be honest. The audience can spot a phony from the back row. Puhtater On Nov 17, 6:46 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Ron Spears tells a very good Jimmy Gaudreau capo story. At a gig somewhere, Jimmy put a capo on his mandolin and Ron gave him the hairy eyeball as only Ron can do and Jimmy got right in Ron's face and says I ain't fucking Bill Monroe. Might even be true. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - Original Message - From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:36:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam I saw Jimmy Gaudreau use a capo on his mandolin at a bluegrass festival. It sounded great. It's a tool. Use it for a certain sound or effect but not because you're too lazy to learn to play in Bb or B. Monroe style players play out of closed positions anyway even when they don't have to, right?
Re: New Duff 'Dola
Wow! If only the Taterbug Picks could be made that fast. Slimpicker - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:50:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: New Duff 'Dola The new 'dola is here! From first few days of play, it's showing very good signs of being able to stick around a while. The 17 scale has not posed a problem so far. I mean, one inch spread out over the whole length doesn't seem to matter. I think the tension is better matched across all the strings too. Right now there's very little relief in the neck and the action is pretty low and it still kicks out the sound. Plays in tune real well too. More later. I might have to get some videos up when I get my nerve up. mistertaterbug On Sep 18, 1:41 pm, Petimar p...@petimarpress.com wrote: Looks great, Mike. Congrats!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To stand, or not??
Our band chose the name The Foggy Memory Boys so we can get away with things like forgotten lyrics and other screw-ups. It also excuses the use of stands. Murph - Original Message - From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: To stand, or not?? Thought I might throw this out there. The new group I’m in is having a little trouble remembering lyrics to our tunes at this stage, and we’ve got a performance on Sat night. Because we’re only doing up to six tunes, I suggested we shouldn’t have a music stand in sight. I think it looks more professional not to have a stand and you should know your music. Right or not so? Perhaps if we were doing several sets it might be a different story. I noticed a photo of EC and Co. on his recent tour with music stands on stage. It’s obviously acceptable to do this and I wonder if that was for a full show which is what it looked like. Any opinion or rule of thumb you guys go by? HK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: newest mandolin related youtube clip!
Reminds me of how Tater reacts when I play my lesson for him. covers his eyes and ears. Murph - Original Message - From: Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:37:34 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: newest mandolin related youtube clip! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wev1cTYD6Ck Woah! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Truth is Stranger...
Did the kid say what the hideous and untalented people playbesides punk? Phreepicker -- Original message -- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Overheard at this past weeekend's gig in Stillwater, OK. A father and son exited the community center building and his young son was overheard to say, Oh I see how it works Dad. The beautiful and untalented people play country music and the hideous and talented people play bluegrass. That's right son. Something like that. Spec-tater --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
