Re: S*P*A*M

2005-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one running BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have had to quit using them both as they are now starting to classify more good e-mail as bad than

Re: Find messages problem

2005-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello Martin, But then I can't stop the search - to click the button Stop doesn't end the search... Only here? Not confirmed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2

Re[2]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-05 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Alexander, Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 4:08:15 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Wolffe everyone else, ASK on 04-Okt-2005 at 22:45 you (Wolffe) wrote: Is there anyway one can reverse the overtraining? ASK Just an idea. ASK You could keep the most recent spam mails, 30 days or so, reset the

Re[2]: S*P*A*M

2005-10-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 4:38:19 AM, you wrote: Have you ever tried POPFile? I've been running it for over 2 years with an accuracy of 99.81%. I have not tried any alternative spam filters partially because of what it says in my sig below. (Windows 98 4.10 Build A)

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
A. Is this another known bug: 1) Have IMAP Fine Tune Option of Only Download Text (i.e. do not download attachments) 2) Forward a message where the attachment has not been downloaded 3) Message arrives at recipient with attachment size of zero, i.e. attachment not included. I

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 11:06:42 AM, John Thomas wrote: 1) Have IMAP Fine Tune Option of Only Download Text (i.e. do not download attachments) 2) Forward a message where the attachment has not been downloaded 3) Message arrives at recipient with attachment size of zero, i.e.

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
1) Have IMAP Fine Tune Option of Only Download Text (i.e. do not download attachments) 2) Forward a message where the attachment has not been downloaded 3) Message arrives at recipient with attachment size of zero, i.e. attachment not included. I could never image a situation where this

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/5/2005 12:35 PM Hi John, On 10/5/2005 John Thomas wrote: I would think what would be buggy is if it sent something besides what you forwarded, which was a message with no attachment. JT I intended to forward the message with the attachment, but that is not JT what happened. I have

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Paul Van Noord wrote: JT I intended to forward the message with the attachment, but that is not JT what happened. I have determined that the attachment was not sent JT because of the setting in 1) above because when I reverse the setting JT in 1) above, the attachment forwards fine. Seems

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/5/2005 12:48 PM Hi Michael, On 10/5/2005 Michael Schneider wrote: MS Either TheBat! should forward the message incl. attachment MS or forward without attachment. MS But it does half of everything - an emtpy attachement. Perhaps a further choice to include an empty attachment. I can think

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 11:46:17 AM, Michael Schneider wrote: But it does half of everything - an emtpy attachement. didn't you download a message, leaving the attachment empty, then forward same? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 11:59:45 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 11:46:17 AM, Michael Schneider wrote: But it does half of everything - an emtpy attachement. didn't you download a message, leaving the attachment empty, then forward same? also, you have this

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello Michael, On 05 October 2005, 17:46 you wrote: JT I intended to forward the message with the attachment, but that is not JT what happened. I have determined that the attachment was not sent JT because of the setting in 1) above because when I reverse the setting JT in 1) above, the

Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi list I have set the POP download option to leave the message on server and delete them there when deleted from trash locally. Everything ok. With SPAM filter I have set that detected SPAM should go to a global Junk folder. This means for the POP configuration that the SPAM will be left on the

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Martin Webster wrote: Do you have When browsing messages, only retrieve message text checked in your account settings? If so, what you see is correct because the attachment isn't in the local cache. TB! is forwarding the message as it is; nothing more nothing less. It can't send something it

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Schoch
Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 7:33:10 PM, you wrote: When I delete the Junk filter now (immediately with CTRL-DEL) they are ^^ messages Sorry. -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Peter Meyns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Martin, on Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:33:10 +0200GMT, you wrote: MS I have set the POP download option to leave the message on server and MS delete them there when deleted from trash locally. Everything ok. MS With SPAM filter I have set that

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Peter, Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 8:11:50 PM, you wrote: By all means, there should be the option to delete messages on server when deleted from Junk, too. After all, the function of the Junk folder is obvious, so it is consequent to treat it like the trash folder. Someone should post

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
But it does half of everything - an emtpy attachement. didn't you download a message, leaving the attachment empty, then forward same? The only reason I would not download the attachment initially is to speed up my reading of the message. Further, does The Bat! have a way to indicate which

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
didn't you download a message, leaving the attachment empty, then forward same? also, you have this tagged as IMAP bug, but isn't this behavior same for POP and IMAP? (Don't know, didn't test, but just asking) I thought pop automatically downloaded the whole message and attachments, so if

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
Do you have When browsing messages, only retrieve message text checked in your account settings? Yes If so, what you see is correct because the attachment isn't in the local cache. TB! is forwarding the message as it is; nothing more nothing less. It can't send something it doesn't have! If

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread John Thomas
If I recieve an eMail with a bigger attachment that is not being downloaded automatically and I want to forward it, Thunderbird first downloads the complete message from the server before sending the new one - just tested it with Tb v1.5. That sounds right to me. TheBat! should know if

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 2:00:39 PM, John Thomas wrote: TB! should assume the user wants to forward the whole message including attachments and the user should only be concerned about the status of the attachment download when the user wants to use the attachments. To me, using the

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 1:54:55 PM, John Thomas wrote: If do not want the attachments forwarded, I would remove them prior to hitting send. you removed them before you retrieved them. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: To me, using the attachment is what one is doing if one is attempting to forward it. TB! should assume that the user wants it to do what the user tells it to do. If the user is not interested in the attachment, why should TB! know to go back and download it then forward

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 2:08:42 PM, Michael Schneider wrote: Why should some User forward a dummy-attachment? Can't answer that. Don't know why wouldn't download attachments in the first place. Bit if took positive steps to disassociate from the attachment, why should client think was

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: Why should some User forward a dummy-attachment? Can't answer that. Don't know why wouldn't download attachments in the first place. Bit if took positive steps to disassociate from the attachment, why should client think was suddenly interested in what user left

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin, On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:33:10 +0200GMT (5-10-2005, 19:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS With SPAM filter I have set that detected SPAM should go to a global MS Junk folder. This means for the POP configuration that the SPAM will MS be left on the server, too. The same will

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Webster
Hello John, On 05 October 2005, 20:00 you wrote: Do you have When browsing messages, only retrieve message text checked in your account settings? Yes Because you chose this setting (I use it too) most attachments aren't retrieved until you attempt to open or save them. The local message

Long mail with multiple links

2005-10-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone, I just received a rather long mail from a friend (his travel log), he always puts links to images of the locations into his mails. Whenever I click on a link in the preview pane, view it in the browser (Opera here) and then return to TB, the preview pane jumps back to the first

Re: Long mail with multiple links

2005-10-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 05-Okt-2005 at 22:03 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: Can anyone confirm this? A, great, I can't reproduce it anymore now... if I swear it happened, will anyone believe me? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 9:27:54 PM, you wrote: Hallo Martin, On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:33:10 +0200GMT (5-10-2005, 19:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS With SPAM filter I have set that detected SPAM should go to a global MS Junk folder. This means for the POP

Re[2]: Long mail with multiple links

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/5/2005 4:30 PM Hi Alexander, On 10/5/2005 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK A, great, I can't reproduce it anymore now... if I swear it happened, ASK will anyone believe me? :-) Maybe..8-} -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/5/2005 4:31 PM Hi Dwight, On 10/5/2005 Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC On Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 2:00:39 PM, John Thomas wrote: TB! should assume the user wants to forward the whole message including attachments and the user should only be concerned about the status of the attachment

Re: Delete from Trash - delete on Server

2005-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin, On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:27:10 +0200GMT (5-10-2005, 22:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS With SPAM filter I have set that detected SPAM should go to a global MS Junk folder. This means for the POP configuration that the SPAM will MS be left on the server, too. The same will

The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread 9Val
Hello All, The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36110.rar Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005151) it didn't search for the file with maximal number in name [-] (#0005150) hints about number of displayed/selected messages were

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 9 Hello All, 9 The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36110.rar 9 Here is a short list of changes: 9 [-] (#0005151) it didn't search for the file with maximal number in name 9 [-] (#0005150)

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello 9Val, On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available from: Oooh. Tab colours are now customizable. Thanks. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Peter, On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PH The [Edit] button for the *first* tab has no effect here. (In PH Options/Preferences/Tabs) Confirm PH - I cannot close (cancel) the [Tab Editor] Window with ESC. Confirm -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Curtis
On Wednesday, October 05, 2005, at 01:54 PM, John Thomas wrote: The only reason I would not download the attachment initially is to speed up my reading of the message. Yes. Part of the IMAP protocol includes the ability to download parts of the message at a time. This allows more efficient use

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, October 05, 2005, 3:35 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36110.rar Running okay, so far. When I checked Help/About after launching this beta, the date for it was given as 29 Sep 2005

Re: IMAP Bugs Sales Opportunity

2005-10-05 Thread Curtis
On Wednesday, October 05, 2005, at 03:31 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: DAC To me, using the attachment is what one is doing if one is attempting DAC to forward it. TB! should assume that the user wants it to do what the DAC user tells it to do. If the user is not interested in the attachment, DAC why

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Ron Secord
Mary Bull [MB] wrote, When I checked Help/About after launching this beta, the date for it was given as 29 Sep 2005 23:52:11. Is that correct? Not sure if it's correct, but I have the exact same thing here. -- Regards, Ron Secord Using TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Professional Under Windows

Re: The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-05 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, at 23:35:34 [GMT +0300] (which was 22:35 where I live) 9val wrote: Hi 9Val, The Bat! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36110.rar Here is a short list of changes: ...snipped Up and running with OTFE. Just made a