Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-08-01 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi RS, Hi Maxim, I don't know the full reply to your question, but the common folders in the default location should be removed, it's a bug that they are not removed. Do you know if it's a Folder (not Common Folder) should it to be removed as well? You distinguish Folder and

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Maxim, Data Folder: D:\TB4\DB\ Program was removed. Most of data was left in data folder. This is intentional, we are reluctant do delete data from non-standard locations since this data may be shared with other programs. We had bad experienced before when The Bat! have deleted more

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, July 31, 2011, 5:57:14 AM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: However, it's not clear (at least wasn't for me) so IMO user should be warned (ex: while setting customized location or while removing - the best would be both) that data won't be removed if he changes the location from a

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Dwight, On Sunday, July 31, 2011, 5:57:14 AM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: However, it's not clear (at least wasn't for me) so IMO user should be warned (ex: while setting customized location or while removing - the best would be both) that data won't be removed if he changes the location

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello RS, Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:34:51 PM, you wrote: Anyway, IMO user should be given info while changing default folder (and preferably while uninstalling and un-checking 'Keep data..' that folder is not to be removed. We are not sure that the information will not be removed.

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Maxim, RS Anyway, IMO user should be given info while changing default RS folder (and preferably while uninstalling and un-checking RS 'Keep data..' that folder is not to be removed. Maxim We are not sure that the information will not be removed. We Maxim would like to

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello RS, I don't know the full reply to your question, but the common folders in the default location should be removed, it's a bug that they are not removed. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-31 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Maxim, I don't know the full reply to your question, but the common folders in the default location should be removed, it's a bug that they are not removed. Do you know if it's a Folder (not Common Folder) should it to be removed as well? You distinguish Folder and Common

Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi, Checked data removal in following cases: - 5.0.20.1 installed with standard settings Program Folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\ Data Folder: %APPDATA%\The Bat! All data were removed properly. - 5.0.20.1 installed over 4.2.22 ; Program Folder: C:\WINAPPS\INTERNET\TB4\ Data Folder:

Data removal while uninstalling

2011-07-30 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi, Does 5.0.20.1 was removing e-mails when TB! was uninstalled? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8526 In the report there is written that 5.0.22.1 has that issue fixed. If I'm correct it's Alpha version. If you run it over 5.0.20.1 and after that when you want to uninstall TB!

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Ignore that one for a time being please. That e-mail was not supposed to be sent yet - just my notes while testing on the notebook... I would swear that I pressed F2... :( Trying all of them once more just to make sure I'm not mistaken. Hi, Checked data removal in following cases: -

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello RS, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 12:01:47 PM, you wrote: Data Folder: D:\TB4\DB\ Program was removed. Most of data was left in data folder. This is intentional, we are reluctant do delete data from non-standard locations since this data may be shared with other programs. We had bad

Re[2]: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, July 30, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: This is intentional, we are reluctant do delete data from non-standard locations since this data may be shared with other programs. We had bad experienced before when The Bat! have deleted more data then needed. So if in question, we

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 1:31:04 PM, you wrote: and about registry entries, are You able to allow removing them via Instashield? Do you mean that The Bat! uninstall does not remove registry entries? -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com

Re: Data removal while uninstalling (Pyrric Victory)

2011-07-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 1:31:04 PM, you wrote: If user installs OTFE and needs to change it, uninstall and new install is not possible without manual registry editing :-( If you select to remove all data during the uninstall, the registry entries are also deleted, isn't it?

Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread RS
Hi Guys, A few days back when importing back-up file on my notebook (and while switching from 5.0.8 to 5.0.10) I made mistake and have selected non encrypted version. I couldn't find an option to convert it to OTFE so I decided to uninstall TB! and install new copy. At the

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 9:22:44, RS wrote: My question here is if not removing data nor clearing register is something that is supposed to happen while uninstalling? Yes. Windows does not offer any reliable way to remove user-specific settings (both registry and files, stored in the

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread RS
Hi Jernej, My question here is if not removing data nor clearing register is something that is supposed to happen while uninstalling? Yes. Windows does not offer any reliable way to remove user-specific settings (both registry and files, stored in the user profile directory) at

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 17:55:23, RS wrote: If I understand your reasoning properly we should never ever uninstall any software nor remove any entries from register. No, you don't. It's perfectly possible to remove global registry entries and program files once they're not needed anymore.

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread RS
Hi Raymund / Jernej, RS I might be mistaken but it's rather not a common approach. Jernej It actually is. Office for example behaves in the same way. Raymund Every installation that is based on Windows Installer behaves Raymund like this. Confused here a bit. Should I understand that if

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread RS
Hi Raymund, Should I understand that if I uninstall for instance Corel, Open Office, Thunderbird or Matlab they will leave database on HDD and entries in the registry? Yes, they all do except for the currently logged in user that triggers the uninstall. Thank you for answer.

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 19:47:05, RS wrote: Should I understand that if I uninstall for instance Corel, Open Office, Thunderbird or Matlab they will leave database on HDD and entries in the registry? Exactly. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.10

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 20:01:19, Raymund Tump wrote: Yes, they all do except for the currently logged in user that triggers the uninstall. Nearly all installers leave all data behind even for the user that launched the uninstaller (a few offer an option to delete current user's data, but

Re: Lack of OS Register Cleaning and Data Removal while uninstalling

2011-05-04 Thread RS
Hi Jernej, Nearly all installers leave all data behind even for the user that launched the uninstaller (a few offer an option to delete current user's data, but that's seen very rarely). Just found out that under unistaller there is info in program description part (bottom) that to