Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Vili
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Robert Tomanek tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org wrote: ... The problem is it doesn't say WHAT exactly is going to be fixed (like whether it's only going to be minor bugs with message counters, or more major ones with message list not refreshing, or compatibility

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Vili, Sunday, March 1, 2009, 9:10:32 AM, you wrote: I would side with Stefan on this, rewrite from scratch, if possible, and if Ritlabs has the resources. [...] The problem is that Stefan/ Ritlabs nowhere did say that they are going to rewrite it from scratch. The quote that Marek and

[noise] Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello Christian, ...and proud of it! Of course, it's a basic pigquoters behaviour. I forgot: - HTML posting on this list EOT -- Regards, Francismailto:fran...@dhumes.fr French translator of TB! and ASS Message handmade on TB! v.4.1.11.6 on Windows Vista 6001

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread MAU
Hello Robert, I would side with Stefan on this, rewrite from scratch, if possible, and if Ritlabs has the resources. [...] The problem is that Stefan/ Ritlabs nowhere did say that they are going to rewrite it from scratch ,- [ 15-Dec-2008 mid:1814574062036820...@ritlabs.com ] | Hello

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread MAU
Hello Robert, Thanks. However, next time include the full quote: Pardon me? It is the full quote, signature included, of the message I identified with MID. See it attached if you don't trust me. Plus a second one I just found. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Vili
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:24 AM, MAU m...@rancho-k.com wrote: Hello Robert, Thanks. However, next time include the full quote: Pardon me? It is the full quote, signature included, of the message I identified with MID. See it attached if you don't trust me. Plus a second one I just found.

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello MAU, Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:36:25 PM, you wrote: I would side with Stefan on this, rewrite from scratch, if possible, and if Ritlabs has the resources. [...] The problem is that Stefan/ Ritlabs nowhere did say that they are going to rewrite it from scratch ,- [ 15-Dec-2008

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread NetVicious
domingo, 1 mar 2009 at 10:51, it seems you wrote: I am pretty sure Ritlabs are feeling the same way today. They know they are not going to win the whole world with The Bat!, they already only cater to a small group of enthusiasts that keep buying new versions. It gives them enough money to

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Jens Franik
Sonntag, 1. März 2009 at 00:05, Christian Grams wrote: ...and proud of it! So und wenn du stolz bist, sorry... Ok, if you are proud now, would you please stop imediately to post HTML Messages to the List without testing purposes. MOD: Please have a Look at this. -- With kind Regards Jens

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Jens Franik
Sonntag, 1. März 2009 at 08:21, Vili wrote: My problem was that you mentioned improvement and then you say that I can not see if it is getting better or different. So, + in your first sentence and - in your second one. It was confusing. I am not an English major myself :), so it is not a

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-03-01 Thread Jens Franik
Sonntag, 1. März 2009 at 08:33, Vili wrote: Samstag, 28. Februar 2009 at 18:10, Kertész Vilmos wrote: Ok, i wanted to point out, that the other Applications are developed ... No, I did not write that Of course not, as you see in mid:10426908.20090228191...@gmx.de -- With kind Regards

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Jens Franik
Samstag, 28. Februar 2009 at 06:15, Kertész Vilmos wrote: IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? Why do you ask for something you might know already? -- With kind Regards Jens Franik

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Jens Franik
Samstag, 28. Februar 2009 at 18:10, Kertész Vilmos wrote: IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? Why do you ask for something you might know already? If I would have known already, I would not

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, February 28, 2009, Jens Franik wrote: If I would have known already, I would not have sent that email. Ok, i wanted to point out, that the other Applications are developed more and more in the IMAP Area, where The Bat! used to be a kind of choice - if The Bat! looses

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Christian Grams
You miss the point: Ritlabs does not seem to care that paying customers are leaving for better Emails Clients that have working IMAP. Better IMAP has been promissed for as long as i can thinkand remember. BTW: this is written via Thunderbird with working IMAP! regards Christian Samstag,

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Francis Dhumes
Troll Hello Christian, Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 19:26:05, you wrote : BTW: this is written via Thunderbird with working IMAP! Sure you don't use TB!: - your mail isn't correctly quoted - your sig isn't conform (dash dash space CR) In french it's called pigquoting ! /Troll and I beg the

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Jens Franik
Samstag, 28. Februar 2009 at 19:22, Marek Mikus wrote: rewriting IMAP code was confirmed several times in the last years, you are right. and is under development right now If you know this 100%, i can not be sure, before i see the first results. And everybody, especial longtime users are

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Marek, Saturday, February 28, 2009, 7:22:58 PM, you wrote: rewriting IMAP code was confirmed and is under development right now, this Care to point to the exact source of this information? I mean: when and where did Ritlabs make any obligations as to: (1) What exactly is going to be

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, February 28, 2009, Robert Tomanek wrote: Care to point to the exact source of this information? Stef wrote this to TBBETA before release of 4.1 We've made changes to the message base format in order to improve IMAP in the next release, so it was the first step. As soon

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2009-02-28 · 22:44 h (CET)] Moin, Marek! Care to point to the exact source of this information? Stef wrote this to TBBETA before release of 4.1 Yep, see mid:1124908893.20081030210...@thebat.net. Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Christian Grams
Am 28.02.2009 19:45, schrieb Francis Dhumes: Troll Hello Christian, Saturday, February 28, 2009 at 19:26:05, you wrote : BTW: this is written via Thunderbird with working IMAP! Sure you don't use TB!: - your mail isn't correctly quoted - your sig isn't conform (dash dash space CR)

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Tomanek
Hello Marek, Saturday, February 28, 2009, 10:44:26 PM, you wrote: Care to point to the exact source of this information? Stef wrote this to TBBETA before release of 4.1 We've made changes to the message base format in order to improve IMAP in the next release, so it was the first step. As

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Vili
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jens Franik je...@gmx.de wrote: Samstag, 28. Februar 2009 at 18:10, Kertész Vilmos wrote: IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? Why do you ask for something you

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-28 Thread Vili
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Christian Grams i...@grams-it.com wrote: You miss the point: Ritlabs does not seem to care that paying customers are leaving for better Emails Clients that have working IMAP. Better IMAP has been promissed for as long as i can thinkand remember. BTW: this

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

2009-02-27 Thread Kertész Vilmos
Hello Jens, IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6