Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-27 Thread MAU
Hello Raymund, That may be a different issue because Mailticker is not really a VF although it may seem so. Mailticker existed long before VFs were 'invented' and implemented. As far as I know the mail ticker was changed internally to be a VF. It could be so, I don't know. As I

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-24 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:29 PM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? Apparently for you it means to stop a discussion with for me it works. I don't care if it doesn't work for you, or if the solution that would work for you wouldn't change

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-24 Thread MAU
Hello Carsten, Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? Apparently for you it means to stop a discussion with for me it works. No, the discussion is pointless not 'because it works for me' but because you don't understand what I am trying to say (or I can't explain it more

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-24 Thread MAU
Hello Mark, Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have a Virtual Folder for today's messages [I know, this might sound strange to some :-)] and when I delete messages in there, they are still shown, except, from then on, Trash is being mentioned as the folder they are in.

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-24 Thread MAU
Hello Rick, Sorry to interject, but it seems to be working as DESIGNED. If you don't want read messages to show, then they DON'T. There WERE some refresh issues with VFs which I believe were fixed. That's probably the reason some think there is a bug now. I mean, VFs are dumb and they

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-24 Thread MAU
Hello Raymund, The VF for the mailticker is the best example. No one would expect that a mail that you have open in an message window is closed because of some background activity. That may be a different issue because Mailticker is not really a VF although it may seem so. Mailticker

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread MAU
Hello RS, DC unless there is some reason why marking it read right away DC interferes with what one wants to do with the message In example you read or just scan a message but you don't have time to deal with it at the moment . In that way it stays in example in your main

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:07 AM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a bit pointless to continue with this discussion, no one is going to convince the other if there is a bug or not. Anyway, I will tell you how I do things myself which, of course, to me, it seems a bit more logic.

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread MAU
Hello Carsten, So what's the argument against keeping the currently selected message in the VF list until the user selects another? I haven't seen one. So why don't we agree on that this should be fixed? Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? -- Best regards, Miguel A.

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread Rick
Hello Carsten, So what's the argument against keeping the currently selected message in the VF list until the user selects another? I haven't seen one. So why don't we agree on that this should be fixed? Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? Sorry to interject, but it

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Rick, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 5:00:56 PM, you wrote: R VFs don't show deleted emails. Perhaps that should be a feature request? Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have a Virtual Folder for today's messages [I know, this might sound strange to some :-)] and

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 3:11:24 PM, Mark Partous wrote: when I delete messages in there, they are still shown, except, from then on, Trash is being mentioned as the folder they are in. empty the trash, and they will most likely no longer be in the virtual folder -- Dwight A. Corrin

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-22 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 10:13:04 PM, you wrote: DC empty the trash, and they will most likely no longer be in the virtual DC folder :-) I would consider that to be a purged message. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-21 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:28 PM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it make much more sense to mark a message as read (*) when you have actually finished reading it and after deciding if you want to flag it, delete it, park it, tag it, reply or forward it, assign it to a color group

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-21 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Monday, May 21, 2012, 11:04:09 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: I disagree. Almost every email client/interface on this planet, from Hotmail to the iPhone, marks an email as read when you open it for reading. And this for good reason: Usually people read an email after they open it,

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-21 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Dwight, CGS I disagree. Almost every email client/interface on this planet, CGS from Hotmail to the iPhone, marks an email as read when you open CGS it for reading. And this for good reason: Usually people read an CGS email after they open it, which is generally the purpose of CGS

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-21 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Raymund Tump raymund.t...@gmx.de wrote: Which leads to a slightly different scenario but as annoying. 1. Mail is shown on mail ticker. 2. I open the mail as I'm interested in it 3. A filter is triggered for this mail and the mail is sorted out to a different

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-21 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:51 PM, RS (FEDARA) r...@fedara.com wrote: DC unless  there  is  some  reason  why  marking  it  read right away DC interferes with what one wants to do with the message In  example you read or just scan a message but you don't have time to deal  with  it at the

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
I don't consider this to be a bug. If the message you are viewing, or any other message in the same folder, is already marked as read when the VF refreshes, I would say it is normal and to be expected that the message(s) disappear from the VF. As you say, your VF is configured to show *unread*

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either refresh manually or leave the VF. That's how v4 handled it and it definitely made sense. On Sun, May

Re[2]: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/20/2012 8:41 AM Hi Carsten, On 5/20/2012 Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: CGS Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that CGS a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and CGS only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either CGS refresh

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread MAU
Hello Carsten, Well, it makes absolutely no sense to remove the message from the VF while it is still selected. Having the message selected in the message list (and open in the preview pane) means it is a message currently being looked at, so refreshing its state in the VF only makes

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Paul, CGS Probably the best (and easiest) way to handle this would be that CGS a VF, while open, does not remove any messages automatically, and CGS only adds the new ones. Removing only takes place once you either CGS refresh manually or leave the VF. That's how v4 handled it and CGS it

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread MAU
Hello RS, One more thing is that if new messages in the folder are selected for reading they are marked automatically as Read - Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not selected (ticked). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi MAU, RS One more thing is that if new messages in the folder are RS selected for reading they are marked automatically as Read - MAU Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not MAU selected (ticked). You might be right about that ; however, I get about

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-20 Thread MAU
Hello RS, MAU Not if Account/Properties/Options/Mark message as read... is not MAU selected (ticked). You might be right about that ; however, I get about 50-100 messages a day and most of them are to be marked as Read while opened. Just a few of them are to still stay as UnRead for

5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-19 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
, because as soon as a new unread message comes in (causing the VF to refresh) your message will disappear from the VF. Bug exists and was reported since v5.0. Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com

Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there

2012-05-19 Thread MAU
Hello Carsten, The bug that the message I am currently reading in a VF disappears as soon as the virtual folder gets refreshed is still there. This happens if a VF is configured to show unread emails, which then of course become read when you click on them. Then you better hurry if you

VF bug

2005-03-16 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello. Steps: 1. Click on VF (first) 2. Press Ctrl+ 3. Result = no messages 4. Click on other VF 5. Click on first VF 6. Result = messages for this VF -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.0.9.7 Return (pre-beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: VF bug

2005-03-16 Thread MAU
Hello Den, 2. Press Ctrl+ I'm mouse oriented so I'm not familiar with many shortcuts. What's Ctrl+K supposed to do? Perhaps 'Refresh'? If so, in the folder tree context menu I see Refresh=Ctrl+R. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.7 Return (pre-beta)

Re[2]: VF bug

2004-06-03 Thread 9Val
Hello, Miroslav. MF the bug is still in version v2.11.02. :-( I know, when it will be fixed, I'll send notification -- 9Val Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: VF bug

2004-06-01 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Den Yafyasov, i cant view messages in VF. in standard folders all OK. Confirmed. I see this Bug sometimes, however I cannot reproduce this error. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta

Re: VF bug

2004-06-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Den, @1-Jun-2004, 09:39 +0500 (01-Jun 05:39 UK time) Den V. Yafyasov [DVY] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: DVY i cant view messages in VF. in standard folders all OK. It always starts with no message selected. This is because it is often re-filtered and refilled. Each folder view

Re[2]: VF bug

2004-06-01 Thread 9Val
Hello Marck, MDP However, when you double click a message in a VF from the main MDP window, you kind-of expect to open the VF in a folder view with MDP *that* message selected, so I understand where you're coming from. Hmm, it has some difficults in implementation. Added to task list. --

VF bug

2004-05-31 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello. i cant view messages in VF. in standard folders all OK. -- Best regards, Den Yafyasov. The Bat! v2.11 RC/1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1attachment: message window.JPGScanned by evaluation version of Dr.Web antivirus Daemon http://drweb.ru/unix/