Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 2:41:09 AM [GMT -0500], Goncalo Farias wrote: If you're not using your computer you can't really be sure that you'll have access to a mail client with IMAP, are you? Most mainstream e-mail clients support IMAP. Even Outlook Express does. :) Furthermore,

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 2:32:03 AM [GMT -0500], Goncalo Farias wrote: That would be really useful if you had an unlimited size for your IMAP mailbox. That never the case! Since I run my own IMAP server, this *is* the case for me. The server runs on my working machine here at home. I

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 9:54:20 PM [GMT -0500], Avi Yashar wrote: Allie, I've been a lurker on this thread, because I've toyed with the idea of going to IMAP for a long while now. But I've always been put off by all of the complaints I read about IMAP clients, including TB. Once

TB! and IMAP stability (was:Re: the bat! new wishes !!!)

2005-02-17 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Thursday, February 17, 2005, 12:34, Allie Martin wrote: If you really love TB!'s features, then you'll not find a client good enough to replace it, so if you look for better working IMAP than what TB! currently offers, you'll find it, but then, you'll lose not being able to work with some

Re: TB! and IMAP stability (was:Re: the bat! new wishes !!!)

2005-02-17 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 6:51:29 AM [GMT -0500], Marcus Ohlström wrote: Speaking of TB! and IMAP, I have myself considered switching to IMAP, but I am quite afraid of the reports of mailboxes emptying themselves. IIRC, you Allie has stumbled across this showstopper at least two

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Allie, Thursday, February 17, 2005, 12:26:37 PM, you wrote: AM Since I run my own IMAP server, this *is* the case for me. The server AM runs on my working machine here at home. I connect to this machine AM from work and anywhere else I am and wish to read my mail. Do you know of a site

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:34:14 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: If you really love TB!'s features, then you'll not find a client good enough to replace it, so if you look for better working IMAP than what TB! currently offers, you'll find it, but then, you'll lose not being able to work with some of

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Thursday, February 17, 2005, 13:19:37, Mark Partous wrote: Do you know of a site (or any other source) where one could find what exactly is needed to run ones own mail server in a safe way? First, use common sense. On the server, stop all unneeded services, and set the firewall to only

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mark, On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:19:37 +0100GMT (17-2-2005, 13:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MP Do you know of a site (or any other source) where one could find what exactly MP is needed to run ones own mail server in a safe way? It's easy. Block all ports that you don't need with a

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Gorman
Goncalo Farias wrote: DG multiple locations. And with webmail access to the same mailbase, DG I don't even need to be on one of my own computers to access the DG same information. If you're not using your computer you can't really be sure that you'll have access to a mail client with IMAP,

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Allie
Hi Avi Yashar, On 17/02/2005 07:44 AM, you wrote: No doubt if I do go to IMAP, I will use TB as my client. Quite honestly, I am less concerned about the bugs in the bat than just the simple mechanics of the move. I don't like flying blind. IMAP's workings are largely seamless. Your actions

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-17 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:57 -0500, Allie wrote: Well, you're outlining other disadvantages to running your own server solution. Yes, you'd need a reliable machine that will reboot in the event of a power failure. You can set your server to autostart on rebooting. I've been running my own

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Claude Renaud everyone else, on 14-Feb-2005 at 21:31 you (Claude Renaud) wrote: nothing Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Law of Life's Highway: If everything is coming your way, you're

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 10:21:20 AM, you wrote: A Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? Nope, I'm getting them too. :-( -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site:

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi Alexander, Le mercredi 16 février 2005 à 18:21:20, vous écriviez : ASK Hello Claude Renaud everyone else, ASK on 14-Feb-2005 at 21:31 you (Claude Renaud) wrote: ASK nothing ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Claude, @16-Feb-2005, 18:27 +0100 (16-Feb 17:27 UK time) Claude Renaud [CR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ASK nothing ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? CRSorry, it is not my fault. ... not entirely, but perhaps one of attention? CR I noticed this

Spam via Tiscali (was: the bat! new wishes !!!)

2005-02-16 Thread Peter Meyns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Claude, on Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:27:38 +0100GMT, you wrote: ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? CRSorry, it is not my fault. CR I noticed this too, but I did not send messages since two days. CR So, there is a

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi Alexander, Le mercredi 16 février 2005 à 18:21:20, vous écriviez : ASK Hello Claude Renaud everyone else, ASK on 14-Feb-2005 at 21:31 you (Claude Renaud) wrote: ASK nothing ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Claude, The original quoted text below was written on 16/02/2005 17:24 my local time; ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this too, but I did not send messge since two days. I had the same problem here when using IMAP

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Cees
Het was op maandag 14 februari 2005 om 21:31 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Claude, CR CR Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: CR http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html CR

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 18:24:55, Claude Renaud wrote: Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this too, but I did not send messge since two days. Are you using IMAP? This could be your problem. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows NT

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 16 februari 2005 om 18:24 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Claude, ASK nothing ASK Why is this message arriving again and again? Or is it only me? CRSorry, it is not my fault. CR I noticed this too, but I did not send messge since two

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 12:24:55 PM [GMT -0500], Claude Renaud wrote: Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this too, but I did not send messge since two days. Is there a very bad echo in here?? :) Very likely a message stuck in an IMAP outbox. Switch your IMAP outbox to local.

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 16 februari 2005 om 22:23 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Allie, Sorry, it is not my fault. I noticed this too, but I did not send messge since two days. AM Is there a very bad echo in here?? :) AM Very likely a message stuck

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Cees, The original quoted text below was written on 16/02/2005 21:31 my local time; AM Is there a very bad echo in here?? :) AM Very likely a message stuck in an IMAP outbox. Switch your IMAP outbox AM to local. I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Gorman
Cees said the following on 02/16/2005 15:31: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. I don't understand why everyone wants to use computers in the first place. Why can't everyone just use pencil and paper? -- Dave

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dave! On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 3:46 PM, you wrote: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. I don't understand why everyone wants to use computers in the first place. Why can't everyone just use pencil and

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 4:31:52 PM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. In a nutshell, IMAP allows you to seamlessly manage your mail from multiple machines. Despite working from

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 16 februari 2005 om 23:22 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Allie, I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. AM In a nutshell, IMAP allows you to seamlessly manage your mail

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Gorman
Mary Bull said the following on 02/16/2005 16:01: On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 3:46 PM, you wrote: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. I don't understand why everyone wants to use computers in the first place. Why

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dave! On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 4:45 PM, you wrote: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. I don't understand why everyone wants to use computers in the first place. Why can't everyone just use pencil and

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Gorman
Cees said the following on 02/16/2005 16:30: AM In a nutshell, IMAP allows you to seamlessly manage your mail from AM multiple machines. Despite working from different machines, all mail AM is still at a single location, i.e., on the IMAP server. Webmail AM achieves a similar effect, but with

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 16 februari 2005 om 22:46 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Dave, DG Cees said the following on 02/16/2005 15:31: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. DG I don't

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 5:30:39 PM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote: I love the way you can explain things, you're very good at that! Thanks bud! That's encouraging! g But.. to me this sounds just like the feature to not delete messages at the server, so that you can indeed access your

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread NetVicious
miércoles, 16 feb 2005 at 22:35, it seems you wrote: Uh oh, I can see another never ending thread commencing here :-( Boy, I love the 'delete thread' button in Thunderbird ;-) The Bat! has Shift+Ctrl+Supr -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Professional / \ / \ /

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Avi Yashar
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:55:01 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: * Your mail is stored centrally on the IMAP server, so server space can be an issue. GMail and Yahoo offer 1GB of space now and I run my own mailserver ... not an issue for me or for others these days. Allie, I've been a

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:54:20 +0200, Avi Yashar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One practical question I have and maybe you can help me with it. For a while now, I have set up my own domain. The hosting service that I have states nothing about IMAP access for email (although I can set up unlimited

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AM On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 at 4:31:52 PM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote: I NEVER understood the use or advantage of IMAP in the first place. Why doesn't everybody just stick to POP3. AM In a nutshell, IMAP allows you to seamlessly manage your mail from

Re[2]: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-16 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DG I can understand that impression, however it's not at all the DG same. With IMAP, you are accessing the same full mailbase from any DG location -- not just incoming messages, but the entire folder DG structure complete with sent messages. DG I

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-15 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:28:15 +0100, Jurgen Haug wrote: we forgot about that! there's no corner to put anyone in!!! If anyone really must do such a thing, then they can try using the corners of their own minds. I must admit that I have been sorely tempted to apply such treatment in respect to a

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-15 Thread Cees
Het was op maandag 14 februari 2005 om 21:31 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Claude, apparently not a man of many words :-))) -- groeten, Rubeo, who was just listening to: Sladest | Slade - One way hotel There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule

the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi, If my memory serves me well, the following feature is something which awaited from users since versions now. So if you want it please vote for it : what about adding the ability of choosing ldap adress books in the options/preferences/system/autocomplete adress from... All adress

the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Claude Renaud
Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Cees
Het was op maandag 14 februari 2005 om 21:31 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the bat! new wishes !!!' : Hallo Claude, ?? no wishes?? :-)) -- groeten, Rubeo, who's right now listening to: SGT.PEPPER`S LONELY HEARTS CLU | The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's With a little he Oh God, I'm so

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Claude, Bad Claude. Go stand in the corner! grin -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat

Re: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Cees, another useless post (this time from me) in this (until now) useless thread... *g* Hallo Claude, ?? no wishes?? :-)) I was thinking exact the same... ;-) Regards, Martin -- The Bat! v3.0.2.10 powered by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998

RE: the bat! new wishes !!!

2005-02-14 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Leif, Monday, February 14, 2005, 11:14:27 PM, you wrote: Bad Claude. Go stand in the corner! grin we forgot about that! there's no corner to put anyone in!!! -- regards, :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: Housework is so wonderfully patient that it waits for you no matter HOW long