Re: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
Hello, Gary. On Monday, October 20, 2003, 7:59:44 PM, you wrote: Ah, what you have to do is config TB!'s SMTP to send using localhost or 127.0.0.1 and then config Xray's SMTP to your actual ISP SMTP address. This way, TB! sends it through Xray, and Xray changes the headers to what you wish out to your ISP.. Okay, so what if I already have a Bayesian filter sitting between TB and the server at 127.0.0.1. How would you suggest I set up Xray? -- Keith Russell ...Winning isn't everything - but losing SUCKS! Using The Bat! 2.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: i-OK box at startup
Hello Paul, A reminder of what Paul C typed on: 21 October 2003 at 19:52:02 GMT -0400 PC when others say that 0.4XX doesn't crash XP, then I might try it again. I've used all versions of Bayesit with Windows XP and NONE of them crashed XP. Not all versions of Bayesit worked but XP and The Bat never crashed. Using hm at the moment with XP and it works flawlessly. -- Best regards,Tony. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 ©2ØØ3 - AWB Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01?
Hello MAU, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:21:49 +0200 GMT (21/10/2003, 22:21 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I don't want Subject auto-completion at all, but I understand others may need/want it. That is why I want to be able to switch it off. The point is that one should be able to switch Subject auto-completion on/off independent of the other auto-completions. I think all auto-completions should be independent of each other. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I've noticed that the press tends to be quite accurate, except when they're writing on a subject I know something about. - (Keith F. Lynch) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01?
Hello Thomas, The point is that one should be able to switch Subject auto-completion on/off independent of the other auto-completions. I think all auto-completions should be independent of each other. 'Course! :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01?
Hello MAU, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:05:36 +0200 GMT (21/10/2003, 23:05 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: 'Course! :) Beer? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Specify that your drive-through order is to go. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01?
Hæ! Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 12:05, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: I wasn't talking about huge childish icons, actually. I was talking about making TB! interface more XP-aware. Uh, I am glad... ;) So you plan a skinable TB!? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3] Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB look: To x or not to X
Hi Alexander, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 2:59:38 PM, you wrote: But I found a lot of themes - nice and usable for ever-day work (not Luna, yes - it's horror) What themes do you like then that are nice and usable for every-day work? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01?
Hello Thomas, Beer? If you insist ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
Hello, Gary. On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 8:09:53 AM, you wrote: K Okay, so what if I already have a Bayesian filter sitting between TB K and the server at 127.0.0.1. How would you suggest I set up Xray? You could try putting Bayes on 127.0.0.2 and Xray on 127.0.0.1 and see if that works ... Don't know if it would work in Windows, but it definitely would work in Unix/Linux.. Okay, I'll try that. On second thought, it should not matter if Bayes is already on 127.0.0.1, as Bayes is already used, but for POP3, port 110, and Xray is used for SMTP (port 25). Untested, but very possibly you would not need to do anything different. In my case, it does matter, because SpamBayes uses 25 for training Thanks. -- Keith ...A list is only as strong as its weakest link. - Don Knuth Using The Bat! 2.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
Hello, Marcus. Okay, so what if I already have a Bayesian filter sitting between TB and the server at 127.0.0.1. How would you suggest I set up Xray? The bayesian filter works on port 110, used by POP3. XRay works on port 25 for SMTP. No problem using them both at the same time. Actually, I'm using SpamBayes, and it can be set up on both 110 and 25. The latter is used for training. I haven't gotten it to work yet, so it's currently a non-issue, but if I want to use Xray, it will be at some point. -- Keith ...Always draw your curves, then plot the data. Using The Bat! 2.01 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on a 2.4 GHZ Pentium IV with 512 MB. Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB look: To x or not to X
Hello Alexander, On 21 October 2003, at 19:59:38 (GMT +0600) you wrote: AL But I found a lot of themes - nice and usable for ever-day work (not AL Luna, yes - it's horror) And where do you found that themes? May you give a link? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Extra Blank Lines???)
Hi Avi, @21-Oct-2003, 18:29 +0200 (17:29 UK time) Avi Yashar said: Marcus, the only changes I see in the macros that I use is that some have been promoted to all-caps. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Avi. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. /moderator -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v2.01.2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
Hi Keith, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:58:31 -0600 GMT (10/21/2003, 12:58 PM +0500 GMT my time), Keith Russell wrote: On second thought, it should not matter if Bayes is already on 127.0.0.1, as Bayes is already used, but for POP3, port 110, and Xray is used for SMTP (port 25). Untested, but very possibly you would not need to do anything different. K In my case, it does matter, because SpamBayes uses 25 for training Well, just a thought, but I don't know if Xray actually captures port 25 and makes it dedicated, or just uses it for SMTP sending on demand, and then releases port 25... A true MTA daemon will capture the SMTP on 25 and not allow another MTA to utilize it. If it does not make it dedicated, you could possibly also use Bayes on 25 too, while training. I have not seen the code for Bayes, so I don't know if it also makes itself dedicated on port 25 while in training mode, but I doubt it, else no one could their own mail server while it is in training. g -- Gary Dain bramaged. Using TB! 2.01.3 on SUSE Linux exclusively. Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.01?
martes, 21 oct 2003 at 18:46, it seems you wrote: So you plan a skinable TB!? I prefer speed than a skinable program. WinAmp 3 it's a good example, a lot of people are using WinAmp 2 yet. -- /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: preview pane scroll bar hassles
martes, 21 oct 2003 at 14:08, it seems you wrote: Not in this version Stefan. :( He uses The Bat! (v2.01.4) ;-) -- /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New official version - TB! 2.01.3
martes, 21 oct 2003 at 09:59, it seems you wrote: Is Mailer defined anywhere? User-Agent is, but I've never seen Mailer... I see it in RFC2076 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2076.html It's not standard, but I think Ritlabs should not remove something other Mailers add without any problem. If other mailers add their name TB should do also. -- /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.01.03 - X-mailer header
martes, 21 oct 2003 at 19:58, it seems you wrote: In my case, it does matter, because SpamBayes uses 25 for training Change the port for X-Ray (if you can). You could use also my miniRelay server for send and change/add/remove headers. It has an option to change the port. English info: http://www.blat.net/miniRelay/ Download: http://netvicious.iespana.es/netvicious/miniRelay/miniRelay.zip -- /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Current beta is 2.00.22 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html