K9 and GPGrelay

2005-10-04 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
Is it possible to use K9 and GPGrelay at the same time?

TIA

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Re: K9 and GPGrelay

2005-10-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Henk,

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:12:38 +0200GMT (4-10-2005, 8:12 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

HDB Is it possible to use K9 and GPGrelay at the same time?

Yes, K9 works fine with other proxies. Just take care that you let
them listen to different ports.

OOTC Is it a beta thing that you're using GPGrelay instead of a
plug-in?

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Re: K9 and GPGrelay

2005-10-04 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, at 11:18:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:18 where I
live) Roelof Otten wrote:

 Hallo Henk,

 On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 08:12:38 +0200GMT (4-10-2005, 8:12 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

HDB Is it possible to use K9 and GPGrelay at the same time?

 Yes, K9 works fine with other proxies. Just take care that you let
 them listen to different ports.

 OOTC Is it a beta thing that you're using GPGrelay instead of a
 plug-in?

No it is not a beta thing.

GPGrelay is a little relaying server which interferes SMTP- and
POP3-Communication that way, that transmission of emails will be signed
and/or encrypted on the fly using GnuPG (The GNU Privacy Guard) with
your default email-program.
http://sites.inka.de/tesla/gpgrelay.html

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Mulberry Ceases Operations -- Files Chapter 7

2005-10-04 Thread Ethan J. Mings
An Electronic Message from Ethan J. Mings on 04/10/2005 at 7:10 AM 

I know a few people on the list have often compared IMAP performance
of Mulberry when providing feedback on various Beta Versions. As an
information update, Mulberry ceased operations yesterday.

If you want to get your final version, check out
http://www.cyrusoft.com for additional details.

It's a good lesson on what can happen with good programs and the
inability to make a sustainable living.

I hope the guy recovers from this experience.

Jerry

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Re[4]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-04 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Paul,

Monday, October 3, 2005, 4:50:58 PM, you wrote:


PVN Novocon at:
PVN http://www.novocon.net/ndexspec.html?refid=findanisp.comrefsessid=3725643
PVN offers access for $7.95/mo. and they do not block port 25.

It is not a problem of port 25 being blocked. It is a different
authentication methode. Since you have TB, look at the authentication
methods. You will see one that is specific to microsoft software
called NLM. It is a different authentication than anyone else uses
sigh  TB is the only 3rd party client that I ever found that
supports it.  But I did stop looking once I found it wink

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Re[5]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-04 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/4/2005  7:39 AM

Hi MikeD,

On 10/4/2005 MikeD (2) wrote:

M2 It is not a problem of port 25 being blocked. It is a different
M2 authentication methode. Since you have TB, look at the authentication
M2 methods. You will see one that is specific to microsoft software
M2 called NLM. It is a different authentication than anyone else uses
M2 sigh  TB is the only 3rd party client that I ever found that
M2 supports it.  But I did stop looking once I found it wink

Understood. I was attempting to rescue you from MSN and save you money
while gaining flexibility to do what you want instead of being told
what you can't do.

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Re[3]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-04 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Alexey,
Monday, October 3, 2005, 8:34:56 PM, you wrote:

 No. Believe me, the problem exists. since both filters - my BayesIt and the
 Bayes Filter use so-called naive bayesian method, they are under the problem
 of overtraining. AFAIK the K9 creators use some solution to fight against 
 it,
 and it is only the matter of time when such solution will be realized in the
 mentioned filters.

Thanks for the response Alexey and thanks for confirming that it isn't
just our imagination. :) I look forward to testing a new solution as I
still  think  it  best that a plugin be used if at all possible. It is
one of the things needed to make an email client complete these days.

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Re[6]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-04 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 6:41:17 AM, you wrote:

PVN 10/4/2005  7:39 AM

PVN Hi MikeD,

PVN On 10/4/2005 MikeD (2) wrote:

M2 It is not a problem of port 25 being blocked. It is a different
M2 authentication methode. Since you have TB, look at the authentication
M2 methods. You will see one that is specific to microsoft software
M2 called NLM. It is a different authentication than anyone else uses
M2 sigh  TB is the only 3rd party client that I ever found that
M2 supports it.  But I did stop looking once I found it wink

PVN Understood. I was attempting to rescue you from MSN and save you money
PVN while gaining flexibility to do what you want instead of being told
PVN what you can't do.


Ahhh ... but you see I still get MSN as a perk from when I did beta
work for them weg Besides, how could give up such a great address
that I have had for over 10 years! g

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Re[3]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-04 Thread Vili
Hello Alexey,

 No.  Believe me, the problem exists. since both filters - my BayesIt
 and the Bayes Filter use so-called naive bayesian method, they are
 under  the problem of overtraining. AFAIK the K9 creators use some
 solution to fight against it, and it is only the matter of time when
 such solution will be realized in the mentioned filters.

I think, the solution is this: you have to keep track, that when a new
item was added to the database and limit the database size... This way
overtraining can be eliminated.

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Re: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-04 Thread Wolffe
Greetings BatPeople,

Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 9:39:15 AM, Vili wrote:

V Hello Alexey,

 No.  Believe me, the problem exists. since both filters - my BayesIt
 and the Bayes Filter use so-called naive bayesian method, they are
 under  the problem of overtraining. AFAIK the K9 creators use some
 solution to fight against it, and it is only the matter of time when
 such solution will be realized in the mentioned filters.

V I think, the solution is this: you have to keep track, that when a new
V item was added to the database and limit the database size... This way
V overtraining can be eliminated.

Is there anyway one can reverse the overtraining?

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Re: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Wolffe  everyone else,

on 04-Okt-2005 at 22:45 you (Wolffe) wrote:

 Is there anyway one can reverse the overtraining?

Just an idea.

You could keep the most recent spam mails, 30 days or so, reset the bayesit
database and then train it anew with the spam mails you kept for spam and
your sent mail folder for ham.

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