>> CTRL SHIFT K
>
>> When you have the virtual folder selected... See if that makes them go
>> away again.
> It does, but what I really wonder is why they come up with the
> headers revealed. Any ideas?
It is probably "remembering" from the last time you selected the virtual
folder. Do they
Hello Martin,
MS> I tried it - the old messages on the server could be downloaded - but
MS> new incoming messages not. When I connect to the server nothing
MS> happens...
This is because of the misunderstanding of IMAP caused by its previous
implementation. :-)
Primarily, IMAP is a way to kee
Hello, Thomas.
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, 9:55:37 AM, you wrote:
> due to the internet
> speed I get in Thailand, IMAP is impractical for me.
Thomas, since when have you been in Thailand? Weren't you in Taiwan?
Any contact with tracer over there?
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Hello Chris,
Thursday, August 7, 2003, 12:37:00 AM, you wrote:
>> Sure I can press * or even ctrl-*, but I thought there should be some
>> setting somewhere to have it do it automatically. Couldn't find. Is
>> this a bug or a missing feature ?
CW> Missing feature that I have given up asking fo
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Alexey,
ANV> Via "Options"..."Preferences"..."plugins" it is impossible to
ANV> delete any installed plugins. It seems like the button "delete"
ANV> simple not work at all.
Another empty function. :-) Fixed...
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Regards,
Stefan
Hello TBBETA,
Selecting Cntrl M "Mark all messages as read" marks them as read in
TB!, but NOT on the IMAP server... even after an explicit sync, and
exit / restart of TB!
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Best regards,
Graham
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Fellow Bat Lovers
Using V2 I am struggling to get it to use my IMAP sent Items and Drafts
folders.
Does anyone have any recommendations i.e what to put in root folder
setting etc.
I am a fastmail.fm IMAP user
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From,
Squabsy
Written at 23:12 on 12/08/03
Pure E-mail with The Bat!v2.0 B
Hello Jonathan,
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:16:42 -0500 (12.08.2003 09:16 my local time)
you wrote about "The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1",
at least in part:
JA> Out of curiosity, why do you say dial-up users don't usual use IMAP?
Yes
JA> IMAP is a lot more bandwidth friendly,
But it's "time hog"... An
Hello Jonathan,
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:30:55 -0500 GMT (12/08/2003, 12:30 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:
>> No, let me download my mail (server-side spam filtering is
>> appreciated), disconnect, and *then* think about which messages I
>> want to read or delete. I'm under no pressure while m
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote...
[..]
> Dial-Up users don't usually use IMAP, but they might want a news
> reader. I have no data saying which TLDs prevail among TB users.
[..]
Out of curiosity, why do you say dial-up users don't usual use IMAP?
IMAP is a lot more bandwidth f
Hello Olivier,
> Would you, by any chance, have physical access to your IMAP server
> folders ? I mean, not through IMAP but through file-system ? I
> remember that years ago when I moved from a complex set of local
> (POP) messages to my IMAP server, I managed to export the messages
> in files (
Hi all.
I've just tried The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 and it still lacks unicode support. Will it be
introduced in release version?
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Current beta is 2.0b1 | "Using TBBETA" information:
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Hello Olivier,
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 6:42:13 PM, you wrote:
MS>> This I tested with an Exchange 2000 server.
> I can't confirm this.
Okay, so I tried now with Web.de and there I also don't have that
problem.
So what I will do tomorrow is to check again in the office with
Exchange. In case i
Hello folks,
I want to report a bug. Please check if you can confirm.
When I have folders starting with an underscore ("_") then these
folders are not displayed when using "Manage the IMAP account". That
means I can't subscribe that folders and by consequence not access
them. When I rename the fo
Hello Martin,
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 5:04:48 PM, you wrote:
MS> I want to report a bug. Please check if you can confirm.
MS> When I have folders starting with an underscore ("_") then these
MS> folders are not displayed when using "Manage the IMAP account".
MS> That means I can't subsc
Hello Thomas,
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 11:46:12 AM you [TF] wrote (at least in
part):
>>> No, let me download my mail (server-side spam filtering is
>>> appreciated), disconnect, and *then* think about which messages I
>>> want to read or delete. I'm under no pressure while making my
>>> de
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...
JA>> the dispatcher has to fetch the whole body (IIRC). ... Of course,
JA>> I can be corrected on this, ...
> Then kneel, sir, while I correct thee ;-).
*kneels*
> The dispatcher only gets the headers.
How? What function performs that? T
Hello Leif,
Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 6:16:12 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
> Save the attached .p7s file, then from the certificate manager window
> in TB, choose import and select the .p7s file.
Thank you for the reply. It worked just as you said.
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Best regards,
Costas
Hi Jonathan,
@12-Aug-2003, 23:19 -0500 (05:19 UK time) Jonathan Angliss said:
>> TOP 5 0
>> will retrieve only the headers of message #5.
>> Credits go to Pit Palme.
> I know... I pointed out that command in my postings... Also note
> that it's OPTIONAL in the RFC, which means the server doesn
It seems that, with NOD version 2, there's no usefulness to my TB!
quarantine folders. Is that correct?
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Current beta is 2.0b1 | "Using TBBETA" information:
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Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Jonathan,
JA> TOP is an optional command, so if the POP3 server doesn't support it,
JA> does that mean that the message dispatcher doesn't work the way you
JA> are suggesting?
Well, as my experience shows, ALL servers support this optional
command. :-)
Hello Jonathan,
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:30:55 -0500 (12.08.2003 11:30 my local time)
you wrote about "IMAP versus POP (was: The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1)",
at least in part:
JA> Unfortunately with the Message Dispatcher, and a POP account, the
JA> dispatcher has to fetch the whole body (IIRC).
No
Hello Jonathan,
Wednesday, August 13, 2003, you wrote:
>> TOP 5 0
>>
>> will retrieve only the headers of message #5.
>>
>> Credits go to Pit Palme.
> I know... I pointed out that command in my postings... Also note that it's
> OPTIONAL in the RFC, which means the server doesn't have to support
Hello Stefan!
On Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 7:00:20 PM you wrote:
> OE does not support PGP/MIME. However, it supports S/MIME and probably
> tries to process it as an S/MIME message with all bad consequences.
How come most OE/OL users can read my signed messages?
We had that once, but I try a
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
R> is it possible to have this optional?
I think you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that this
feature is one that is causing no one any problems and probably
annoying only one person (you). Subsequently, given the number of
pressing m
Hello,
I have another strange issue (bug) with some folders. Sometimes, when
switching to a folder I previously visited (this happens most with
Inbox), the message list re-includes messages I previously (minutes
ago) deleted. Sure those deleted messages were not expunged in between
by the
Hello,
I seem not capable of having the editor understand I would like to
indent some text as in :
This is text hskjhs ksjhd skjhd skjdh skjhd skjdh skjdh skdjj
jkhkjh kjh kjh kjh kjh kjh .
If I type the above by first indenting, then typing, it re-acts
correctly. But i
Hello Thomas,
> For practical purposes, there are similarities between IMAP and the
> Message Despatcher, in that you have to download all headers first and
> then choose which mails to download.
I have never used IMAP but it seems to me there isn't that much
difference from what you can do with
Hello Olivier,
first of all thanks for your quick and extensive reply!
AL>> how do I get my IMAP-server to "learn" my folder structure in TB?
AL>> Is that possible at all?
> Unless TB contain a specific function to duplicate a POP3 account
> local folders tree to an IMAP server, you can't
Hallo Olivier,
Op een Tuesday, August 12, 2003 om 2:34:02 PM schreef jij over "IMAP versus POP":
OM> I hope this will be enough for RITLabs to get a closer look to the
OM> protocol handling (maybe not fully buffered and maybe not ready for
OM> getting big bursts of data back from the
Dear Thomas,
TF> Thanks. I'm too lazy to write a bug report. Stefan, would you kindly
TF> take note? :-)
Actually, the signature must be checked each time message is loaded -
it's a security measure in case somebody changes the message base
content
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Stefan
Hello Thomas,
Top Level Domain or the like. Figured it out I think. LOL. Thanks.
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Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
- Why be politically correct when you can be R
Hello The Bat! - Betalist,
with a big help from Januk Aggarwal, the print template now works fine
with these QT:
,- [ QT: Recipient Driver ]
| %_RL_Num_Space("10")%-
| %SetPattRegexp="^(?s)\s{%_RL_Num_Space}(.*)\Z"%-
| %RegExpMatch="%-
| %___%QInclude='Recipient List'"
`-
,- [ QT: R
Hello Graham,
Thursday, August 7, 2003, 12:05:39 PM, you wrote:
> I cannot see how to read / manage the Exchange Personal & Public
> folders using TB! IMAP. Am I missing something?
Well, no idea what you did. So did you subscribe also to the public
folders? Because normally they are listet l
Hello Jannik,
Friday, August 8, 2003, 3:39:09 AM, you wrote:
JL> Hello tbbeta,
JL> Apparently, messages answered in TB does not appear as answered when
JL> seen in other mailers. Could this be fixed please, Stefan? :-)
Apparently, the problem is rather that answered messages are not
marked
Hello Martin,
i'm using 2.0b1 now, but the size is still wrong.
(Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 )
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Best regards,
Samsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thursday, August 7, 2003, 11:20:13 AM, you wrote:
MW> Hello Samson,
MW> Thursday, Aug
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Hash: SHA1
SH> I understand that auto filtering of incoming messages doesn't work in
SH> v2. Does that mean that you all manually refilter?
Hellooo!?!?!??!
- --
Stuart
Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
PGP Key available
Hello TBBETA,
when I open TB, the log panel (shift-crtl-L) is empty. POP and SMTP
sessions start and end, I always see the last line of the log, and can
use the the littel arrow (which mistakenly points down instead of up)
to show me previous lines in the log.
This is all fine, except that the lo
Hello TBBETA,
I'm rather confused by TB! IMAP operation. When I click on a
specific message - I sort of expect to get to see it all. However,
the synchronisation options seem to override me. i.e. if I have
selected no- sync, then I don;t get to see the full message at all.
Again - havin
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:54:01 +0200 Olivier Mascia wrote:
OM> I see this same behaviour here and reported it to the bug tracker today.
OM> This is not *always* though. Most messages end up that way in the
OM> outbox, *some* do send and disappear immediately from the outbox.
Mine has been very consi
Hello Jonathan,
At 8:02 PM on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 it seems you posted the
following to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to headers
revealed:
>> It does, but what I really wonder is why they come up with
>> the headers revealed. Any ideas?
> It is probably "remembering" from the last time
Hej Thomas,
12. august 2003 00:09 +0700 skrev du:
> > Do you - by any chance - have your Bat in "Resize"-mode? I think you
> > will see that everything is visible if you maximize TB.
>
> No, TB is always maximised, but Allie was right. Other Windows
> applications handle it the same way as TB. I
Hi,
while setting up my short cuts i noticed that many shortcuts appear
twice or more. If this is a feature the entries should be at least
place next to each other. For example New in Main Menu -> Message
appears as first and last item in the list which is confusing
somehow. Enter, Delet
Hello Marek,
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 20:49:25 +0200 (05.08.2003 00:49 my local time)
you wrote about "The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1",
at least in part:
MM> Do You think MyGate or another one?
Only MayGate
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Alexander Leschinsky
Powered by The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11
Weakened by Windows 98
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 8:49 AM, you wrote:
SH> You're going to get shouted at if you keep quoting like that.
SH> - --
SH> Stuart
well, I DID mention that I WAS quoting the entire text on purpose.
I should have quoted just the first and last line, but it is early in
the morning, the coffe
Hello Greg,
Monday, August 11, 2003, 5:10:23 PM, you wrote:
GS> Open folder properties by selecting the folder and hitting
GS> "Alt+Enter", or right mouse click and choose "properties". In
GS> folder properties select "Use the account default column
GS> settings". Now you
I don't know I go on holiday for two weeks and you all start playing with
V2
can anyone share the url where I get it from so I can catch up with the
rest of you
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Using Opera, The Bat, K-meleon, or Becky.
Right Now Using Fastmail when I should be working
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Hello Krister,
On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:57:54 +0200 GMT [20:57 CEST] you wrote:
KE> but ... well... The reason i didn't install Gnupg, is that i'm
KE> unsure whether it will work at all under Xp Pro
Does this answer your question? ;)
- --
Cheers,
Andr
On Monday, August 11, 2003, Olivier Mascia wrote...
> So TB recognizes the \Deleted messages as such in most cases, but
> sometimes mistakenly misses them.
It should recognise them... they aren't any different from before,
just a new flag. I've noticed the same thing, but it seems to be a
timing
Hello Stefan,
Wednesday, August 6, 2003, 7:12:43 PM, you wrote:
ST> This is actually planned. Technically, there is no problem to use
ST> multiple connections, but it would increate the Beta testing period
ST> which is already extremely long :-)
Seeing how close to unusable it is for now, I woul
Hello Samson,
Sunday, August 10, 2003, 4:15:19 AM, you wrote:
S>>> (Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 )
MW>>
MW>> Could this have something to do with it?
S> That's actually windows server 2003 standard edition. And I
Hi Sean,
SRT> I tried to add a new folder to the v2 beta but it doesn't
SRT> seem to allow the editing of the expiry field.
I suppose, you mean an IMAP folder? If so - this is OK for now. The
limits will be used as soon as the conditions are created :-)
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Cheers,
Stefan
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Hash: SHA1
Hello Dierk,
Saturday, August 9, 2003, 11:28:41 PM, you wrote:
DH> Hello Sean!
DH> On Saturday, August 9, 2003 at 9:24:16 PM you wrote:
>> That is one point of using Bayesian, but you can use it anywhere
>> and train it for your own setup. One man
Hello Jonathan,
Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 10:47:03 PM, you wrote:
JA> It appears to only be marking a message as \Deleted... This can be
JA> seen by the IMAP trace command:
JA> C: V00022 UID STORE 11090:11109 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
JA> It's only setting the Deleted flag. Could it be p
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:
TF> I think the scrollbar should push the attachment pane up, so that I
TF> can still access the icons.
I would suggest that you're asking too much there. :)
I can't think of any other application or situation where a
window/subwindow/panel resizes itself to accommo
Hello Allie,
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:02:13 -0500 GMT (10/08/2003, 21:02 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
> Initially it used to retain only one of those id's in addition to the
> In-reply-to message id. However, this made thread cohesiveness very
> fragile, especially for those who deleted messages
Hello tracer,
Monday, August 4, 2003, 7:50:57 AM, you wrote:
t> If thats the IRC trout there cannot be much left besides the
t> bones...
Yeah, we wore that puppy out a while back. I've got Trout v2.351b
right now. Lots of nice new features.
+ Flipper slap (in addition to the full on slap with th
Hello all,
Saturday, August 9, 2003, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote:
> I subscribed to one list and during one week "trial" it, receiving all letters
> into inbox. Then I decided to make a new folder and made it under inbox. Then I
> created the filtering rule and refiltered inbox folder to move all l
Tuesday, 8/5/2003, 11:59 AM
Hi Leif,
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, at 10:13:39 [GMT -0600] (which was 9:13 AM where I live)
you wrote about: 'message size exceeding feature request'
LG> Yeah, we wore that puppy out a while back. I've got Trout v2.351b
LG> right now. Lots of nice new features.
This is a k
Hello TBBETA,
I'm using the beta against an Exchange server, and I keep getting a
Sent.1 folder be created whenever I send an e-mail. The server
complains when I try to delete it...
... odd
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Graham
Hi Bat! folks,
I just wondered if or rather how to convinse the internal pgp support
to clearsign rather than send the signature as pgp/mime. And while i'm
at it, has the internal GnuPG plugin support been removed? I couldn't
see it anywhere in the "choose open pgp" dialog.
Thanks
--
/Krister mai
Guys,
I've found a problem in thread management in TB!2b1.
Please find here the details:
A: orig: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
B: reply to A: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
C: reply to B: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D: reply to C: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
E: reply to D: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Current appearance,
Hi,
I noticed something really annoying yesterday... and it's beginning
to really frustrate me today.
http://thebat.netdork.net/imap_bold_read.jpg
As you can see from the above screen shot, the messages are marked
as read (envelope shows them as so), however the font is still
bold..
Hi Samson,
@7-Aug-2003, 16:30 -0700 (00:30 UK time) Samson [S] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Martin:
S> i'm using 2.0b1 now, but the size is still wrong.
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
inst
Hello Greg,
Monday, August 4, 2003, 7:10:50 PM, you wrote:
GS> Hello Jonathan,
>> And the massively improved IMAP support was a cunning scheme to take
>> over the world, by not enabling it in earlier versions ;)
GS> No, just good marketing. :-) It is called creating incentive to
GS> upgrade t
Hello Stuart,
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 4:02:50 PM, you wrote:
SH> I get my office mail from an exchange server that doesn't have
SH> POP3 enabled so I get my mail using the old IMAP implementation
SH> and everything works just as I want it to. Now, if I move to v2b1
SH> am I right in t
On Monday, August 11, 2003, Olivier Mascia wrote...
> Does TB store messages count somewhere ?
I believe Stefan mentioned that the counts are a "work in progress"
thing. I'd have to check, I know there has been a lot mentioned on the
counts being "off". But yes, I'd say the message count could
Hello,
When I move a message through drag-n-drop from a folder to another one,
the message doesn't disappear immediately from the out-folder (screen
refresh issue I guess). If I switch to the destination folder, the
message is there, and when I come back to the originating folder, it has
been dele
[snip]
JP> After providing IMAP support, TheBat has come to what an eMail client
JP> is about: letting you manage your eMails. It should then focus on
JP> fixing the remaining bugs, and when this is done, you can think about
JP> RITLabs producing a news reader. I think the BatPost approach is
JP>
Hello Jan,
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 17:54:25 +0200 GMT (10/08/2003, 22:54 +0700 GMT),
Jan Oetjen wrote:
> But :D What if (consider the normal user) you
> have no web interface but simply your POP3 Account on a normal domain.
www.pop2web.com
www.mail2web.com
> Even if I do have a web interface for gm
Hello Marek,
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:03:39 +0200 (CEST) (05.08.2003 18:03 my local time)
you wrote about "The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1",
at least in part:
MM> MyGate looks good, but is in Russian language only and Andrew do not
MM> plan international interface soon :-(
Mygate 1.4
->8-
Dierk Haasis, [DH] wrote:
DH> I don't know, I may have enabled it some years ago. Before this gets
DH> out of hand, I use the plug-in from Imad Faiad for his 6.5.8ckt
DH> build.
I haven't used that in a while, but I can't remember the MIME option in
the PGP specific pop-up signing dialog ever bei
Hello Costas,
Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 9:07:01 AM, you wrote:
CP> I received a reply, with an attachment with a p7s extension. The
CP> email said to click the right mouse button on the certificate to
CP> install it. Clicking the right mouse button doesn't give me any
CP> explicit command to ins
Hello Dierk,
DH> That could be good news, as it was enabled by default on my machine.
DH> Perhaps disabling it will render my signed messages to be readable by
DH> everyone ...
How comes it is enabled by default? I could not see anything in PGP to
keep it enabled...
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Stefan
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