Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
Hæ! I am not sure, but I think I am experiencing this since v2.12 RC/1. I am using FireFox 0.9.2 as my standard browser. When I click on an URL in TB, *two* browser windows are opened. Both contain the same URL. Can anybody confirm this behaviour? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 (without BayesIt) PopFile on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.12rc3 rogue display problem (was Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Plan9, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, at 10:50:03 [GMT -0400] (which was 10:50:03 AM in NY, USA) Plan9 wrote: Yes it does show and all others show properly as well until I close the View Folder window and reopen it. Then the whole process starts again. Just an idea. It may not be related at all. But what I did was cut all entries from all the msl files in the images folder. I pasted each set of entries into separate temp files in case I wanted them back. I then saved the original msl files which were blank except for the top portions down to line 9, I think. After a restart of TB, all was well. My issue was with auto downloading but your problems may be related. It sounds like TB may be getting conflicting info on which rogue image to display. Since you were all involved with this early on, your image entries may be very much like mine were. That one screenshot of Allie's message seems to destroy my theory and support the bad rendering idea. It's all black except for the transparent portions. Then again, if TB were loading multiple images atop one another, wouldn't they appear solid black minus the transparent parts? -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.2.12 RC/3 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
Hey Thorvald! even (on 11.07.2004 at 17:12) did you write: Can anybody confirm this behaviour? 1. Open Explorer 2. Select Tools and then Folder Options 3. Select the File Types tab 4. Select Extension: (NONE), File Type: HyperText Transfer Protocol 5. Click Advanced toward the bottom of the window 6. In the Edit File Type window, select open and click Edit 7. Clear the DDE message box (which should contain %1) 8. Click OK, Click OK 9. Repeat for File Type: HyperText Transfer Protocol with Privacy -- Bye, Carsten www.batworld.de www.batboard.de Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
Hello Thorvald, Sunday, July 11, 2004, 10:12:58 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN I TN am using FireFox 0.9.2 as my standard browser. TN When I click on an URL in TB, *two* browser windows are opened. Both TN contain the same URL. TN Can anybody confirm this behaviour? confirmed only when FireFox 0.9.1 is my default browser. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong :GW: Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Dear Dierk, @11-Jul-2004, 15:57 +0200 (11-Jul 14:57 UK time) Dierk Haasis said to Marck: So, please (for our sake as well as yours) correct this problem. Hopefully this doesn't duplicate, just had a little trouble with my first answer. Okay. If the picture in question is the one I saw on the Web, a drawing, I plea for it to stay. Do you know for certain it is his likeness? I don't. It just looks like a (rather attractive) Anime line art representation of a boy. But by no means does it look like the real person. Not that I know what the real person looks like from that image, which defeats the point of the rogues. As long as our images show recognisable representations of us I don't see why they should be rejected. And I say that the rogues are supposed to be our pictures. Ways to say this is me - pleased to meet you. Anyone that squeamish about sharing their likeness at this level shouldn't get involved, rather than mislead or deceive. What then about Melissa's or Well, Leif and I actually discussed Melissa's case specifically. Melissa put her case as to whether or not to contribute that image. It is a picture of her doing something very important to her from a magazine cover photo. She also said that she values her privacy and has had cause to regret publishing too much information about herself in the past. We decided to make an exception *just for Melissa* in this case. Peter Hofmann's photos? I'm not sure that Peter Hofmann's picture is appropriate though. I didn't approve it myself and don't remember seeing it come up for approval. I like the ones showing a bit more personality, not just any passport automatron pic. Well then, how about this one for me, for example? http://www.silverstones.com/DameMarck.jpg. It's me. Doing something I enjoy. (No! Not being a drag queen - but performing on-stage, in this case as the Dame in a pantomime - a peculiarly British piece of seasonal entertainment). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpgCP7T2p7k2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 07:34:36AM -0700 or thereabouts, Kevin Amazon wrote in part: Hi 9Val Hello Jakub, JM finding with Found 0 messages. Why? Is it not possible to finding JM messages in VFs? :-| Not yet. JM [3.] JM set this CT to some messages they haven't strikeout font style! JM Others font attributes like: colors, bold, italic and underlined JM styles are displayed correctly with the exception of strikeout font JM style! JM Then I looked at Folder | Browse for deleted messages. JM And what I saw there? All messages had a strikeout font style! Actually, this isn't a bad idea, IMO. Consider that even if one deletes a message in an IMAP folder, the message still exists. That is until you purge the folder. Messages that have a strikeout show me that there are messages that have been deleted but not purged from the IMAP folder. well, that is exactly what the IMAP protocol calls for. Messages are not physically deleted until they are expunged (compressed in TB!). Many MUAs utilize this already, showing deleted messages with a strikeout, until they are expunged. ;) -- Gary Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Rougue: Wrong picture in Header
Hello tbbeta, I have recently been seeing the wrong picture in the header. This is mostly happening in some junk mail I seem to receive regularly. I have traced the problem to someone (no names, but not difficult to figure out who :) ) who has used :: as their signature instead of :John_Doe: . This means when someone sends an e-mail with :: in the message you see John Doe's picture. I guess it will be showing after this message if my theory is correct. :) (Hint: This isn't my picture) -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Auto-downloading Roguemoticons and Smileys?
Hello Paul! On Sunday, July 11, 2004 at 4:47:46 PM you wrote: if you get them at all, you still have to trust a web site. How do we know some of those smilies don't have web bots in them now?? Yip, I wrote that. And I answered the question myself, didn't I? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Hello Dierk, Sunday, July 11, 2004, 8:46:17 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH *BTW, Greg, is it a second generation GW or the SW? Well I'm not sure what you mean here and a little OT. So I'll expand. First their is a little ego and a little bit of a use of an acronym. For me GW = GoldWing as well as GW = Greg Wallace Strong, so there is the twist with my email user name. A lot of fond memories. As to the GW bike IIRC the first GW was sold in 1975 which was a 1000cc. In 1980 Honda came out with 1100 CC with the optional Interstate touring package. I bought the GW in 1981 with the Interstate package. So I would say it is 2nd generation. I owned the bike for 20 years and saw just about every state west of the Mississippi river and just about every Canadian province west of Ontario from International Falls which was the border crossing from Minnesota to Canada. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong :GW: Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 9:46:17 AM, Dierk wrote: DH If it is the drawing I've seen the rules should be bend. The system of approval should be fair to users and easy to administer by the Approver(s). By fair it should be open to everyone. Photos are fair. By easy it should cause a lesser amount of work for the approvers. Photos-only reduces the decision space and should be easier than photos and drawings. DH There are other images that might actually show the real Rogue but DH which actually can't really be seen as such, like Melissa's kayaker or DH Peter's diver. I do like those as I do Carsten's (neat way to not show DH your face) or Greg's (the Honda's* much bigger than him) because they DH show a bit more than just a pretty face ... If I were approving photos I would use a recognizable man/woman in the street approach. If the photo does not allow someone to recognize that person if they saw them in the street (sidewalk), then it would be disapproved. This does not address the issue of is the photo of the correct person. I would take this as a given unless there is evidence otherwise (personal knowledge, etc.) Or the Approver could just hire a Swiss referee to make all the calls. :-) :-D :-) -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.12rc3 rogue display problem (was Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Plan9, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:50:03 -0400 GMT (11/07/2004, 21:50 +0700 GMT), Plan9 wrote: P Yes it does show and all others show properly as well until I close P the View Folder window and reopen it. Then the whole process starts P again. Yes, it's known. -- I don't know whether :-) or :-( is appropriate. Let's decide that when the next RC is released. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I like to sing to the songs on the radio in my car. When you go into a tunnel, it's hard to come out on the right note. Actually, the news is more difficult. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
Hæ! Sunday, July 11, 2004, 19:05, Carsten Knobloch wrote: 4. Select Extension: (NONE), File Type: HyperText Transfer Protocol There is no Extension (NONE). -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 (without BayesIt) PopFile on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Hello Marck! On Sunday, July 11, 2004 at 6:08:33 PM you wrote: Do you know for certain it is his likeness? Apart from a view German users no one knows if my picture represents my likeness. And I say that the rogues are supposed to be our pictures. Ways to say this is me - pleased to meet you. Anyone that squeamish about sharing their likeness at this level shouldn't get involved, rather than mislead or deceive. Can see this. We decided to make an exception *just for Melissa* in this case. Hm, exceptions are always problematic. But as I wrote, I like those pictures which not just show a technically more or less well done bur give a hint at the personality behind the face. See below. Well then, how about this one for me, for example? Yip, that's the one. Not that your current one isn't good, your hairstyle and facial growth *are* showing personality. But the likeness to your first photo is very faint. Which begs the question which of these three photos *is* you - the beardless nice guy from around the corner, the corny drag queen, or the hippiesque mad scientist from a bad sci-fi movie? And I am still not sure which Ben Allen is the real one [so much for good style], the bald, scary webcam one or the ironically looking guy with long hair. When I am at it: Wasn't Pit once in the file, where's his pic gone? And Markus Wilhelm's handle I see on Leif's page can't be right. BTW, will your Rogues Gallery be synchronised with Leif's? -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Die meisten Leute machen sich selbst bloß durch übertriebene Forderungen an das Schicksal unzufrieden. (Wilhelm von Humboldt) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
Dear Greg, @11-Jul-2004, 12:17 -0500 (11-Jul 18:17 UK time) Greg Strong said to Carsten: ... snip CK 7. Clear the DDE message box (which should contain %1) CK 8. Click OK, Click OK ... snip I tried this and info in DDE message box %1,,-1,0 after it is cleared, and click OK 2 times comes back and still get 2 Firefox windows. Confirmed - and when re-inspecting the 'Advanced' settings, I find that the DDE settings have been re-enabled :-(. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpa0A7sGfBQO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Carsten posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Firefox 0.9.2 and links from TB : CK 1. Open Explorer CK 2. Select Tools and then Folder Options CK 3. Select the File Types tab CK 4. Select Extension: (NONE), File Type: HyperText Transfer CK Protocol CK 5. Click Advanced toward the bottom of the window CK 6. In the Edit File Type window, select open and click Edit CK 7. Clear the DDE message box (which should contain %1) CK 8. Click OK, Click OK CK 9. Repeat for File Type: HyperText Transfer Protocol with Privacy I bow to your technical expertise but I don' believe this is correct. The problem is that FFv9.2 adds ,,-1,0 w/o quotes which should be removed, leaving %1. Then it should work. Otherwise, it seems a link will call FF but not open the URL. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Sorry, but what is the rogue?
Batters: DH On Sunday, July 11, 2004 at 4:47:19 PM you wrote: At least the user then has a choice to download from a known source, cancel the operation, or choose another URL. DH Sorry, that does not address the concerns I brought up. `--[end quote] All it does do is place the URL in front of the user prior to D/L. I can make an initial assumption that there is 1 or 2 URLs known by TB and can be considered to be valid, as far as a known location for smilies and Rogopics. Could the individual files be compromised? Of course they can. First, there's the issue of using these eye-candies. Those that want a semi-secure MUA won't want to turn these on. That's step one; to enable or disable them (default to disable?). Secondly, if the user does decide to enable one or both of these, then TB allows the user to perform a semi-automatic D/L by putting the URL in front of his/her face (and maybe a note to warn the user if the URL doesn't match the URL of record for the eye-candy). There is an element of personal responsibility. The only way to keep absolutely safe is not to play (from WarGames, 1983). Dennis -- Dennis Hays/Haysdesign License: http://www.haysdesign.com/license 7/11/2004 at 1:48 PM (-5 UTC) The Bat 2.12 RC/3 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195Service Pack 4 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Some questions
Hi Kevin, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:02:46 -0700 UTC (7/11/2004, 5:02 PM -0500 UTC my time), Kevin Amazon wrote: Additionally, the IMAP RFC specifically calls for the term EXPUNGE, not purging, nor compressing. This IMO should be corrected in TB! when using an IMAP account, to differentiate, correctly so, from a POP3 setup. K You are indeed correct. Unfortunately, many server side e-mail systems K (Exchange, MDaemon and others) make reference to Purge and not K Expunge. Nevertheless, I certainly agree this should be corrected in K TB as it is very confusing especially to the new user. yah, now you get me started on something else ;), non-compliant IMAP servers. IMO, they should either follow the protocol (RFC 3501), 100%, or don't put it out the product... you just can't have half-way measures. It doesn't work, especially when talking with 50 different email clients as a server would normally. IMAP servers, as well as IMAP clients must follow the protocol... Why do some IMAP servers make reference to purge?... there is no purge in the IMAP protocol!! geesh... let's just make up a word and use it.. Getting back to the above, IMO, TB! should rename or add EXPUNGE to the folder drop down list (hot-key-able for IMAP use only)... it is different from purge or compress entirely. It has a different meaning, different functionality. It is unique to IMAP. -- Gary Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Some questions
Hi Allie, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:27:02 -0500 UTC (7/11/2004, 4:27 PM -0500 UTC my time), Allie Martin wrote: A I see that there are no purge options for IMAP and wonder if compression A and purging do the same for an IMAP folder in TB!. Upon reviewing the A folder options anyway, I see that there's no purge only option and A instead purge+compress. Additionally, the IMAP RFC specifically calls for the term EXPUNGE, not purging, nor compressing. This IMO should be corrected in TB! when using an IMAP account, to differentiate, correctly so, from a POP3 setup. -- Gary Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Hi Allie Martin - On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, at 16:27:02 [GMT -0500] (which was 2:27 PM where I live) you wrote: Removing messages marked for deletion in an IMAP folder is expunging or in TB! *compressing*. Even for a POP account, deleting a message in TB! just marks it for deletion and removes it from the message list. A compression has to be done there as well to actually remove the messages from the message base. Purging is different and involves more than just compression. Purging can be made to remove messages older than a defined age or to remove old messages until the total message count is at a defined value. I see that there are no purge options for IMAP and wonder if compression and purging do the same for an IMAP folder in TB!. Upon reviewing the folder options anyway, I see that there's no purge only option and instead purge+compress. I know we are talking about the same thing here and semantics are getting in the way. Speaking to IMAP only, convention defines the act of deletion as flagging a message for deletion on the server. The message still physically exists on the server but it has a flag attribute. Purging is the act of physically deleting the flagged message from the server (one can define server-side rules for this action. TB uses the term compress to refer to this physical deletion on the server which is actually an incorrect term to use. The term Compress typically refers to the recovery of disk space that is fragmented. IMO, the command TB should be using is delete+purge rather than purge+compress. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpHqEajg1pYx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 4:50 PM, you wrote: P This does not address the issue of is the photo of the correct person. P I would take this as a given unless there is evidence otherwise P (personal knowledge, etc.) GS And what next a PGP (or GnuPG) signed picture with a signed key? well, actually, a PGP signed pictuer still wouldn't mean anything other than to verify the SENDER, not the picture. we would need Batcon to verify photos with people:) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Marck D Pearlstone, [MDP] wrote: No. And I am currently looking Frank Dzicher's backside in the face every time I get another rogue to approve. I'm not going to approve the back view of Frank with his head between his knees clasping his hands behind his thighs. Frank - if you don't want to play nice, please just delete the rogue account. The problem is that the autodownload feature fetches the update even though it's not approved. :( I'm looking at his head where it shouldn't be, as we speak. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgp8dtH4gEe1s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
On Monday, July 12, 2004, at 15:15:51 [UTC-0700] (Monday, July 12, 2004 00:15 my local time) George Mitchell wrote: JM [...] The only valid font styles should be: bold, JM italics and underlined. Please, no. I use the struckthrough attribute in a color group for something else. Using colors instead is not a good alternative since they don't show when the message is selected. Are you able to use strikeout font attribute in message list? I don't remember how it was in previous versions, but setting this attribute in TB 2.12 RC/3 does nothing for me. Is it a bug? -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rogues: Just black boxes in the header.
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: Absolutely agree with it, and Allie recently posted a message asking people to change the subject or create a new thread when bugs are mentioned. And I hope that without too much trouble, we'll be put out of our longstanding and unusually well tolerated misery by everyone nicely complying with the request. :) -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpvFKkAoOV6d.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Browsing messages still being disrupted (Was: Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Allie, On Sunday, July 11, 2004, at 16:10:46[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 14:10 where I live) Allie wrote: Allie I've never come across this one. If I were, it would be worse than the Allie focus change bug. Allie This makes me wonder though if you're using any replied message Allie filters. A replied message filter could be made to delete the message Allie that you've replied to. Some of my folders do have reply filter, but in TBBETA, there is not. Why would replied filter delete the referred msg? -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
Dear Allie, @11-Jul-2004, 17:56 -0500 (11-Jul 23:56 UK time) Allie Martin said to Marck: No. And I am currently looking Frank Dzicher's backside in the face every time I get another rogue to approve. I'm not going to approve the back view of Frank with his head between his knees clasping his hands behind his thighs. Frank - if you don't want to play nice, please just delete the rogue account. The problem is that the autodownload feature fetches the update even though it's not approved. :( That's not good. I'm looking at his head where it shouldn't be, as we speak. That's not good at all. Anything we can do to tighten up the procedure? Of course - we can have an administrative Reject button that deletes the image from the server! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpmxiPiozoC1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Browsing messages still being disrupted (Was: Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Allie, On Sunday, July 11, 2004, at 16:10:46[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 14:10 where I live) Allie wrote: Allie I've never come across this one. If I were, it would be worse than the Allie focus change bug. Allie This makes me wonder though if you're using any replied message Allie filters. A replied message filter could be made to delete the message Allie that you've replied to. Some of my folders do have reply filter, but in TBBETA, there is not. Why would replied filter delete the referred msg? -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12 RC/3 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Are you able to use strikeout font attribute in message list? I ZW don't remember how it was in previous versions, but setting this ZW attribute in TB 2.12 RC/3 does nothing for me. Not in RC/3. It did work before. ZW Is it a bug? I hope so. 9Val indicated it would work again in the release version. See: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- George Using The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Browsing messages still being disrupted (Was: Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Allie, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:07:37 -0500 UTC, Allie Martin wrote: AM I'm running one of those internal daily builds offered me to test new AM IMAP functions. This one doesn't have the problem and it's a beta/8, AM with executable file date July 8th 2004. Yup. Same here. I'm back running that as it works better for me. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 pgpevmaOXKMYE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Hello Gary, On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:55:43 -0500 UTC, Gary wrote: G Additionally, the IMAP RFC specifically calls for the term EXPUNGE, not G purging, nor compressing. This IMO should be corrected in TB! when using an G IMAP account, to differentiate, correctly so, from a POP3 setup. Not only to differentiate, but understandable to people who are used to working with IMAP. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 pgpQ6OITcPpak.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Browsing messages still being disrupted (Was: Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Januk, On Sunday, July 11, 2004, at 17:43:39[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 17:43 where I live) Januk wrote: Januk Because that's the way replied filters work. They act on the message Januk *to which* you are replying, not on the message *with which* you are Januk replying. It is a subtle but important distinction. oh, sorry then I misunderstood Allie, I don't set replied filter, I meant to say that I set up outgoing filter. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 5:53:21 PM, Kevin wrote: KA I know we are talking about the same thing here and semantics are KA getting in the way. Speaking to IMAP only, convention defines the act KA of deletion as flagging a message for deletion on the server. The KA message still physically exists on the server but it has a flag KA attribute. Purging is the act of physically deleting the flagged KA message from the server (one can define server-side rules for this KA action. Actually according to IMAP RFC 3501: The EXPUNGE command permanently removes all messages that have the \Deleted flag set from the currently selected mailbox. But how many people use EXPUNGE in their daily conversations or even know what it means? :-) I agree Purge is probably a better menu item or button name for this action. -- Regards, Plan9 It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some questions
Sunday, July 11, 2004, 7:39:44 PM, Charles wrote: G Additionally, the IMAP RFC specifically calls for the term EXPUNGE, not G purging, nor compressing. This IMO should be corrected in TB! when using an G IMAP account, to differentiate, correctly so, from a POP3 setup. CMG Not only to differentiate, but understandable to people who are used to CMG working with IMAP. But I bet the majority of e-mail users have no idea what IMAP is nor even want to. They just want to send and receive e-mails. EXPUNGE is not in their everyday vocabulary, but PURGE is. Even though EXPUNGE may be the more technically correct term, PURGE may still be a much better choice from a marketing and majority user point of view. Anyone have any idea why EXPUNGE was chosen for RFC 3501 instead of PURGE? -- Regards, Plan9 A hamburger walks into a bar, and the bartender says, I'm sorry, but we don't serve food here. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rouge info mail 'Your Roguemoticons was disapproved'
On Sunday, July 11, 2004, 6:16 PM, you wrote: PC we would need Batcon to verify photos with people:) AW They certainly do a great job but what has batcon to do with verifying AW photos? oh whoops, I meant our bat-CON get-to-gether :) where we actually SEE the people that are supposed to belong to the photos.. there really is a batcon.org, wow!! neat! my wife works for www.gwf.org :) you can see her under staff:) http://www.gwf.org/staff.htm AW ,- [ www.batcon.org ] AW | We are committed to: -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
