Re: batskin.ini file format

Hello MaXxX! On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 1:25:58 AM you wrote: > I would like to vote a big "no" to the idea above. With many > available file formats appropriate for this task - XML, for example - > I would strongly advise against creating a yet another TB! proprietary > format for users to

Re: batskin.ini file format

Hi, Alexey wrote: > I agree that XML would be much better I'm also a strong supporter of XML for this (Firefox and Trillian, if I'm not mistaken, are two examples that use XML based skin descriptions pretty well). Yet, I'm wondering if TB's developers are already beyond a point where this is sti

Re: On S/MIME -- perhaps old news

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Monday, October 25, 2004, 21:52:59, you wrote: MDP> That's exactly what the "Reset signers..." button in the account MDP> properties .. Edit personal certificates dialog is for. oh boy, oh boy, oh boy :-) -- ..hggdh.. Using The

Re: Feature wish- allow user to permanently permit session with "incomplete" SSL/TLS server certs

Hello Allie, Sunday, October 24, 2004, 5:04:38 PM, you wrote: > On Sunday, October 24, 2004 at 2:09:21 PM [GMT -0500], Army Redleg > wrote: >> Understood, *if* these servers are indeed in violation of the >> "Standard"... > Yes. This is the question for which I don't have an answer. Unless we >

Re: On S/MIME -- perhaps old news

Dear Hggdh, @25-Oct-2004, 21:41 -0500 (26-Oct 03:41 UK time) hggdh [H] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbbeta: ... H> ... you cannot select WHICH S/MIME you want to use. TB! will *ONLY* H> use the first you added in! That's exactly what the "Reset signers..." button in the account properties

On S/MIME -- perhaps old news

Hello folks, I have been trying to show another user how to generate self-signed certificates on TB!. Now, I had never used the TB! S/MIME certificate generator (usually I run openssl to do something like this). so obviously I hit some roadblocks, which were bypassed. All in all, quite easy, eve

Re: batskin.ini file format

Hello Maxim, Monday, October 25, 2004, 8:39:12 AM, you wrote: MM> For those, who may want to add those few missing icons, a file batskin.ini could be MM> supplied along with a missing icons only additional file (3 files altogether) MM> [bitmaps] MM> Bitmap0=glyphs.bmp MM> Bitmap1=GlyphBMP-patch.p

HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet

The attach message tries to contact remote computers. To reproduce: 1. Have a firewall or some other way to watch connections 2. Save the attached message. 3. Import the message into TB! Message base. 4. View Message. At this point, for me, TB! tries to connect to Yahoo servers on por

Re: most used PGP

"Chris" wrotes on 26/10/2004 at 09:37:19 +1100 subject "most used PGP" : > Hello All, > Is the most used pgp program for the bat the free version located at > http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html or is there something > else better? I am new to PGP and have only been using the bat f

Re[2]: Anti spam for imap accounts

Hello, Steve. You wrote 26.10.2004 @ 4:36 JC>> What anti spam plugin work for imap accounts ?? ST> SpamPal - http://www.spampal.org Disagree. SpamPal is not _plugin_, but external standalone application. For the moment there is no such plugins for The Bat! now. However, every plugin can work

Re[2]: batskin.ini file format

Hello, MaXxX. You wrote 26.10.2004 @ 8:25 in using mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional >> it is possible, that .ini will be mutated into a more TheBat! >> general format soon. M> I would like to vote a big "no" to the idea above. With many M> available file forma

Re: batskin.ini file format

On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 3:39:12 PM, a fearless knight known as Maxim Masiutin entered the dragon's lair and exclaimed: > it is possible, that .ini will be mutated into a more TheBat! > general format soon. I would like to vote a big "no" to the idea above. With many available file formats

most used PGP

Hello All, Is the most used pgp program for the bat the free version located at http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html or is there something else better? I am new to PGP and have only been using the bat for about a month. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Thanks, Chris Using

Re: Anti spam for imap accounts

Hello Jose, Monday, October 25, 2004, 9:24:38 AM, you wrote: JC> What anti spam plugin work for imap accounts ?? JC> José carlos JC> JC> Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: JC> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: Feature wish- allow user to permanently permit session with "incomplete" SSL/TLS server certs

Hello hggdh, Thank you for your detailed reply and pointers, looks like I have a bit more reading to do! -- Best regards, James Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.h

Re: 3.01 RC6 blank preview pan

Hello All, Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:21:19 PM, you wrote (at least in part): > Yes, upgrade. This problem was solved somewhere between RC6 and the > release version. Gotcha > But why does your signature show v3.0.2.1 if you are running the old > RC6? I am running 3.0.2.1 but the only installer

Re: 3.01 RC6 blank preview pan

Hello Chris! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 2:38 PM, you wrote: C> Anyone else have trouble with blank preview pane in 3.01 RC6? If so C> is there a workaround? Reading "between-the-lines" are you having the kind of difficulties with the current beta that are making you think of dropping back? An

Re: 3.01 RC6 blank preview pan

Hi Chris, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:38:22 -0400GMT, you wrote: C> Anyone else have trouble with blank preview pane in 3.01 RC6? If so C> is there a workaround? Yes, upgrade to 3.01.33 or 3.0.2.1. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512

Re: 3.01 RC6 blank preview pan

On Monday, October 25, 2004, 21:38, Chris wrote: > Anyone else have trouble with blank preview pane in 3.01 RC6? If so > is there a workaround? Yes, upgrade. This problem was solved somewhere between RC6 and the release version. But why does your signature show v3.0.2.1 if you are running the

3.01 RC6 blank preview pan

Hello All, Anyone else have trouble with blank preview pane in 3.01 RC6? If so is there a workaround? -- Thanks, Chris Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBET

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Dierk Haasis & everyone else 25-Okt-2004 21:34, you wrote: >> Just to get this straight - where is the need to "interpret" anything? > Her PS was about ironic (she wrote "sarcastic") stylistc devices, like > the comment about Maxxx at last reading something someone else wrote. Anyone is w

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Alexander! On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 9:17:03 PM you wrote: > Just to get this straight - where is the need to "interpret" anything? Her PS was about ironic (she wrote "sarcastic") stylistc devices, like the comment about Maxxx at last reading something someone else wrote. -- Dierk

URL Macro BT feature [Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax]

Hello MaXxX! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 1:59 PM, you wrote: MB>> I hope he will write his feature-request up formally at BT, so MB>> that I can put a note of support to it. < ... > M> Done. Just now added my supporting note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3980 -- Best regards, M

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 8:59:50 PM, MaXxX wrote the following words: > Done. Together with a grammar definition. 0.5% chance for it to be > used, even if I implement it myself and present to Ritlabs on a silver > platter, but what the hell, my brains needed a jog. :P https://www.ritlabs.c

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Dierk Haasis & everyone else 25-Okt-2004 18:57, you wrote: > Sorry, I don't see "teaching" in Mary's, just a behest to make it > easier for her to read what you meant instead of what she has to > interpret. Just to get this straight - where is the need to "interpret" anything? I pointed o

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Mary, Monday, October 25, 2004, 10:40:35 AM, you wrote: > Ah. In some instances, then, a very valuable gem. It would be safe to say only a geologist would find consider a xenocryst of value but even someone who adored rocks would have trouble calling it a gem. -- Thanks, Terry Using th

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 7:19:25 PM, Mary Bull jumped on the stage, took a mike and sang: > I hope he will write his feature-request up formally at BT, so that I > can put a note of support to it. I am currently at it. . Done. Together with a grammar definition. 0.5% chance for it to

Anti spam for imap accounts

What anti spam plugin work for imap accounts ?? José carlos Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http

Re: Bug: mainscreen picture missing in help

Hello Peter! On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 7:27:23 PM you wrote: > Confirmed. Funny pic indeed... :-) Me too; and I love that pic! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Marri

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Terry! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 12:11 PM, you wrote: MB>> P.S.2 Translated into English, does Xenocryst mean "strange MB>> crystal"? TGM> In geology a xenocryst is a "crystal foreign to the igneous rock TGM> in which it occurs." Ah. In some instances, then, a very valuable gem. Thank

Re: Bug: mainscreen picture missing in help

Hi Alexander, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:56:54 +0200GMT, you wrote: ASK> when I press F1 while having the focus on the preview panel, I get the help ASK> system with a greenish error picture "the picture main1.shg is missing!" ASK> (funny gfx art, tho! *g*) Confirmed. Funny pic indeed... :-) -- Ch

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Dierk! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 11:57 AM, you wrote: ASK>> Wish on. I write my mails the way I like, and I won't let myself ASK>> be teached by you again, and again in public, remember that. ASK>> Thank you. DH> Sorry, I don't see "teaching" in Mary's, just a behest to make it DH> easi

Re: Mod: Let the mods moderate (was: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax)

Hello Dierk! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 12:02 PM, you wrote: MB>> I apologize, and I will make this my practice in the future. DH> Oops, sorry for the other comment by me; didn't know that a DH> member's wish for clarity and easier access of other's posts is DH> moderating. Of course, I did n

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Mary, Monday, October 25, 2004, 6:10:05 AM, you wrote: > P.S.2 Translated into English, does Xenocryst mean "strange > crystal"? In geology a xenocryst is a "crystal foreign to the igneous rock in which it occurs." -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.0.1 RC4 under Windows XP Service Pack

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Dierk! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 11:55 AM, you wrote: MB>> And that MaXxX's feature request is probably needed--a clarification mb>> of the Macro's effects. DH> A wish I wholeheartedly agree with. From what I've read in this thread DH> - before it gets juicy - Maxxx pointed out not a bu

Re: Mod: Let the mods moderate (was: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax)

Hello Mary! On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 4:26:06 PM you wrote: > I apologize, and I will make this my practice in the future. Oops, sorry for the other comment by me; didn't know that a member's wish for clarity and easier access of other's posts is moderating. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Alexander! On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 3:27:37 PM you wrote: > Wish on. I write my mails the way I like, and I won't let myself be > teached by you again, and again in public, remember that. Thank you. Sorry, I don't see "teaching" in Mary's, just a behest to make it easier for her to r

Bug: mainscreen picture missing in help

Hello everyone, when I press F1 while having the focus on the preview panel, I get the help system with a greenish error picture "the picture main1.shg is missing!" (funny gfx art, tho! *g*) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP Pro S

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Mary! On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 3:10:05 PM you wrote: > And that MaXxX's feature request is probably needed--a clarification > of the Macro's effects. A wish I wholeheartedly agree with. From what I've read in this thread - before it gets juicy - Maxxx pointed out not a bug or some mi

Re: Color coding in 3.0.2.1 does not work

Hi Marcus, MO> On Sunday, October 24, 2004, 15:32, Jonas wrote: >> I can't even assign a color group manually via right click context >> menu. MO> What if you switch to another folder and then back? This does sound MO> like the known update bug 3.0.2.1 suffers from. Yes you're right. Changing

Re: Feature wish- allow user to permanently permit session with "incomplete" SSL/TLS server certs

James Whitmoor wrote: (snip) I disagree, I control my local server and DNS, Redleg controls his local server and DNS. We could happily exchange messages in clear but for privacy would like the option to choose to validate each others certs by external methods. Yes, I know you control your DNS, and

Re: Mod: Let the mods moderate (was: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax)

Hello Marck! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 9:06 AM, you wrote: MDP> We know you are only trying to help, but we would rather that any MDP> offence caused by the posting of another list member be taken up MDP> either off-list or (preferably) as a plea to MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED] for divine interventi

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello tbbeta200409203600, Monday, October 25, 2004, 3:54:20 PM, you wrote: > Your assumption that this means you may not use parenthesis in > single argument macros is still wrong. I never said that, and I never assumed that. I simply understand that the %WRAPPED macro is an exception, thats why

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Marck, Monday, October 25, 2004, 3:38:01 PM, you wrote: > See that last sentence? The converse is that quotation marks *are > required* for more than single word macro parameters. Well, I never looked at it that way because it was so obvious... to me, ahem. :-) FWIW, what Maxxx wants to d

batskin.ini file format

Hello Tbbeta, Here is the draft version of the batskin.ini file format. Valerye Bostan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has written this specification. Please contact him in case of any question. The russian version of this description follows after the English version. Regarding "batskin.ini" - there is

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Dear Alexander, @25-Oct-2004, 15:28 +0200 (25-Oct 14:28 UK time) Alexander S. Kunz [ASK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: >> %WRAPPED(%COOKIE) >> I use both and both work. ASK> I tried that only a couple of days ago, exactly the same way ASK> Maxxx tries to use it, and I stumbled exactly

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Marck, Monday, October 25, 2004, 3:20:10 PM, you wrote: > %WRAPPED(%COOKIE) > I use both and both work. I tried that only a couple of days ago, exactly the same way Maxxx tries to use it, and I stumbled exactly across the problems he has... -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Mary, Monday, October 25, 2004, 3:10:05 PM, you wrote: > P.S. I wish that Alexander Kunz would quit using sarcasm and would > refrain from cursing in the body of his messages, or anywhere else. Wish on. I write my mails the way I like, and I won't let myself be teached by you again, and ag

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello tbbeta200409203600, Monday, October 25, 2004, 2:42:37 PM, you wrote: > That's your interpretation -- and it's plain wrong. TFM does *NOT* > state %Wrapped should behave differently when used with parenthesis > or quotationmarks, respectively. Why don't you SIMPLY open the helpfile instead

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Dear Alexander, @25-Oct-2004, 14:16 +0200 (25-Oct 13:16 UK time) Alexander S. Kunz [ASK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> Your'e getting somthing wrong here: As you stated earlier you *may* >> *always* use parenthesis instead of quotation marks: ASK> That statement is not from me but from TB's

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Xenocryst! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:42 AM, you wrote: txxn> You can vainly argue whether -- as I quoted from TFM -- txxn> | new syntax for macros: it is now possible to use brackets instead txxn> | of ="..." txxn> means implies "possible to always use", which makes a lot of sense, o

Re: Feature Request: periodical mail checking only when connection is available

Dear MaXxX, -->> Montag, 25. Oktober 2004, 12:40:00: >> Sorry my Connection is on a Local Area Network. Therefore this >> option is not available. >> Or am I doing something wrong? > On a LAN, there is no other way of telling if you're online or > offline, apart from attempting to connect to

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello tbbeta200409203600, Monday, October 25, 2004, 1:55:23 PM, you wrote: > Your'e getting somthing wrong here: As you stated earlier you *may* > *always* use parenthesis instead of quotation marks: That statement is not from me but from TB's helpfile. RTFM. And there (in the friendly manual)

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello Alexander, Monday, October 25, 2004, 1:28:09 PM, you wrote: > also I meant "could". -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: htt

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello MaXxX, Monday, October 25, 2004, 12:37:47 PM, you wrote: >> So its either parenthesis *OR* quotation marks that keep >> paramenters apart. I can't go thru all your examples but maybe you >> want to check them against this rule... > I know how to use the macros, in both forms. I was not ask

Re: Feature Request: periodical mail checking only when connection is available

On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 11:19:42 AM, Eddie Castelli picked up a feather, dipped its tip in ink, and began scribbling: > Sorry my Connection is on a Local Area Network. Therefore this option > is not available. > Or am I doing something wrong? On a LAN, there is no other way of telling if

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 9:41:39 AM, Alexander S. Kunz spewed forth what is to be beheld below: > So its either parenthesis *OR* quotation marks that keep paramenters > apart. I can't go thru all your examples but maybe you want to check > them against this rule... I know how to use the ma

Re: Feature Request: periodical mail checking only when connection is available

Dear Marek, -->> Sonntag, 24. Oktober 2004, 21:36:51: >> So my suggestion is: >>- to have the function programmed that when there is no connection >> TB! is ignoring the 'periodic mail checking'. > check option "No automatical for periodical checking" in Network and > Administration

Re: Macro quoting madness still present with paranthesis syntax

Hello MaXxX, Monday, October 25, 2004, 8:40:06 AM, you wrote: > I was trying to find a good use for the macro syntax that I seem to > have overlooked: the %paranthesis("syntax"), so to speak. To quote the help file: "Note: The Bat! version 2 introduces a new syntax for macros: it is now possibl