K9 and GPGrelay

2005-10-03 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
Is it possible to use K9 and GPGrelay at the same time? TIA -- cheer, Henk __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System™ version 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gos

Re[2]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, MikeD. You wrote 04.10.2005 @ 2:01 in using mailer: The Bat! (v3.61.09 Echo (Beta)) Home >>> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, >>> but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one >>> running BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have h

Re: S*P*A*M

2005-10-03 Thread Neal Laugman
Alexander, Stuart Cuddy & everyone else, >> For example I have been marking an e-mail with the following info as spam >> perhaps 100 times and it still does not stop it. This is what happened with BayesIt for me and I retired it. It was a champ for a *long* time, but with the latest TB releases i

Re[3]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/3/2005 5:46 PM Hi MikeD, On 10/3/2005 MikeD (2) wrote: M2> They use a proprietary authentication (imagine that MS M2> being proprietary :-/ ) method that is not widely supported (but TB M2> does ) Novocon at: http://www.novocon.net/ndexspec.html?refid=findanisp.com&refsessid=3725643 offe

Re[4]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MikeD, Monday, October 3, 2005, 4:13:06 PM, you wrote: M2> No, if you are getting false positives you need to make the threshold M2> number larger not smaller. I have not changed the original setting, so if I raise it it would be above the 90 mark. -- Best regards, Stuart

Re: 3.61.09: Strange symbol in maintenance centre

2005-10-03 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 1 oct 2005 at 13:02, it seems you wrote: > There is showing a strange symbol in Maintenance centre. Any > confirmations? Confirmed here. It seems the new label component doesn't understand the new line character (#13) -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (

Re[3]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Stuart, Monday, October 3, 2005, 2:34:52 PM, you wrote: SC> I get too many false positives as it is I could not lower the SC> threshold. No, if you are getting false positives you need to make the threshold number larger not smaller. SC> I followed a lead someone else left to check to se

Re[2]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-03 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello Peter, Monday, October 3, 2005, 3:06:33 PM, you wrote: PM> There is not much to deal with, once installed and set up for the PM> accounts. :shrug: Unfortunately I could never get proxies like K9 to connect to MSN's servers. They use a proprietary authentication (imagine that MS being prop

Re[5]: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Vili
Hello Maxim, >>>What I found out on my system is, that it reproducibly occurs when you >>>envoke the F7-search on the folder INBOX! But not neccessarily there, it >>>also happens on SOME subfolders, not on all, though. > Does it ocur after backup/restore as described in > https://www.ritlabs.com/b

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Jay Walker
On 10/3/05, Peter Meyns wrote: > MS> As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the > MS> toolbar on top. The first default search option is "Text" "Contains" > > MS> So I give a text string to find and I push the start button. When I > MS> push the stop button to stop the search

Re: BayesIt doesn't work as it should

2005-10-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MikeD, on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 14:01:48 -0500GMT, you wrote: M2> Have you tried adjusting your 'threshold'? I have been using BayesIt M2> and have not had that problem. I almost never have false positives. My problem with BayesIt were not false positives. There were none. M2> But between 20 and

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dwight, Monday, October 3, 2005, 2:36:11 PM, you wrote: >> Account/Properties/Mail Management/For Predefined Folders use these >> Mailboxes. When you put a checkmark beside each item it uses a server >> based folder. So put a checkmark beside the Sent and Trash folder and >> select the folde

Re[2]: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MikeD, A reminder of what MikeD (2) typed on: Monday, October 03, 2005 at 14:01:48 GMT -0500 M2> Hi Stuart, M2> on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:39:26 -0500GMT, you wrote: >>> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, >>> but what the heck is going on here. I have two co

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, October 3, 2005, 11:57:28 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: DAC>> I suppose if I poked around I could figure this out, but how DAC>> does one switch to server side sent folder with local outbox? DAC>> I'd love to do that. > Account/Properties/Mail Management/For Predefined Folders use these > Ma

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Maxim, Monday, October 3, 2005, 1:14:06 PM, you wrote: >> As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the >> toolbar on top. The first default search option is "Text" "Contains" > I did the same but could not reproduce this bug :-((( Update: I tried it again after full ma

Re: BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread MikeD (2)
Hi Stuart, on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:39:26 -0500GMT, you wrote: >> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, >> but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one >> running BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have had to quit >> using them both as they are n

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dwight, Monday, October 3, 2005, 11:35:38 AM, you wrote: DAC> On Sunday, October 2, 2005, 4:15:19 PM, Curtis wrote: >> I use a server side sent folder and trash. The outbox is local. DAC> I suppose if I poked around I could figure this out, but how does one DAC> switch to server side sent

Re[4]: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Peter, Monday, October 03, 2005, 18:05:09, you wrote: >>What I found out on my system is, that it reproducibly occurs when you >>envoke the F7-search on the folder INBOX! But not neccessarily there, it >>also happens on SOME subfolders, not on all, though. Does it ocur after backup/restore

Re: 3.61.09: Strange symbol in maintenance centre

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Martin, Saturday, October 1, 2005, 2:35:11 PM, you wrote: > Hello Denis, > Saturday, October 1, 2005, 1:02:58 PM, you wrote: >> There is showing a strange symbol in Maintenance centre. Any >> confirmations? > Can't confirm on Win98SE. Correction - I can confirm on Win98SE http://home.t

junk mail filter -- need some advice

2005-10-03 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Battyfolk, For a long time now I have been getting a piece of spam that I can't filter out & it's really getting on my nerves. Message is entirely HTML w attachment There is no text spam comes in the form of a gif (name changes as well) All headers seem random X-Spam: [F=0.5893273767; heur=0.727

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/3/2005 12:59 PM Hi Dwight, On 10/3/2005 Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC> I think once they undertook to become an IMAP client, they undertook DAC> the responsibility to make it work. It doesn't seem selfish to expect DAC> them to keep the promise they made. Agreed. When does one consider the pro

BayesIt doesn't work as it should (was: S*P*A*M)

2005-10-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Stuart, on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:39:26 -0500GMT, you wrote: SC> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, SC> but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one running SC> BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have had to quit using them SC> both as they

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Michael Schneider
Dwight A Corrin wrote: >> Wanting IMAP improvements and providing complete and informative >> feedback to the developers is a good thing. Expecting them to focus >> on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. > > I think once they undertook to become an IMAP client, they undertook > the responsibility to

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, October 3, 2005, 5:22:38 AM, Paul Van Noord wrote: > Wanting IMAP improvements and providing complete and informative > feedback to the developers is a good thing. Expecting them to focus > on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. I think once they undertook to become an IMAP client, they un

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, October 2, 2005, 4:15:19 PM, Curtis wrote: > I use a server side sent folder and trash. The outbox is local. I suppose if I poked around I could figure this out, but how does one switch to server side sent folder with local outbox? I'd love to do that. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broa

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, October 3, 2005, 11:23:13 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: I know of this. Hitting the 'reset' button in the IMAP folder management panel often solves this. >>> It did not work for me this time. This folder management panel is >>> probably something new users struggle with. Is that

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Dwight, Monday, October 3, 2005, 11:24:43 AM, you wrote: DAC> On Sunday, October 2, 2005, 1:19:01 PM, John Thomas wrote: >>> I know of this. Hitting the 'reset' button in the IMAP folder >>> management panel often solves this. >> It did not work for me this time. This folder management pa

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, October 2, 2005, 1:19:01 PM, John Thomas wrote: >> I know of this. Hitting the 'reset' button in the IMAP folder >> management panel often solves this. > It did not work for me this time. This folder management panel is > probably something new users struggle with. Is that any way to

Re: S*P*A*M

2005-10-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Stuart Cuddy & everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 15:39 you (Stuart Cuddy) wrote: > For example I have been marking an e-mail with the following info as spam > perhaps 100 times and it still does not stop it. That was my experience with BayesIt in the past, too. I marked the same kind of mes

Re[2]: S*P*A*M

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Mark, A reminder of what Mark Partous typed on: Monday, October 03, 2005 at 17:14:01 GMT +0200 MP> Hello Stuart, MP> Monday, October 3, 2005, 3:39:26 PM, you wrote: SC>> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, SC>> but what the heck is going on here. I hav

Re: S*P*A*M

2005-10-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Stuart, Monday, October 3, 2005, 3:39:26 PM, you wrote: SC> I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, SC> but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one running SC> BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have had to quit using them SC> both as th

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, at 14:47:16 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:47 where I live) Peter Meyns wrote: MS>> As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the MS>> toolbar on top. The first default search option is "Text" "Contains" MS>> So I give a text string to find and I push the start b

S*P*A*M

2005-10-03 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbbeta, I guess this is really to the creators of BayesIt and Bayes Filter, but what the heck is going on here. I have two computers, one running BayesIT and the other Bayes Filter and I have had to quit using them both as they are now starting to classify more good e-mail as bad than it a

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Martin, on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:50:15 +0200GMT, you wrote: MS> As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the MS> toolbar on top. The first default search option is "Text" "Contains" MS> So I give a text string to find and I push the start button. When I MS> push the stop butt

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread John Thomas
> TB was, is, and will be the best POP client. For the developers to > focus only on IMAP is to abandon what brought TB to where it is. > Expecting them to focus on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. I understand your concern. As a solution perhaps Ritlabs could immediately abandon the IMAP focus if

Re[2]: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Martin, Monday, October 3, 2005, 1:50:15 PM, you wrote: > As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the > toolbar on top. The first default search option is "Text" "Contains" I did the same but could not reproduce this bug :-((( -- Best regards, Maxim

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Michael Schneider
Paul Van Noord wrote: > Expecting them to focus on IMAP seems quite selfish to me. I don't think it is selfish to demand, what the developers promised (for two years now). Michael -- 03.10.2005, 13:14 Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen will. (

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Maxim, Monday, October 3, 2005, 12:37:37 PM, you wrote: >>>You are right - I forgot to write in the original post that the >>>problems over here are with OTFE. > How can I reproduce this problem? It never hangs in my case. As wrote in my first post. I click on the "Find messages" in the to

Re: The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Krzysztof Kudlacik & everyone else, on 03-Okt-2005 at 12:39 you (Krzysztof Kudlacik) wrote: > During leaving TB! I got all there AV/errors - see attachments Did you know that you don't have to make screenshots of error messages? Press CTRL-C & paste the text contents into the editor window

Re: The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta) is now available

2005-10-03 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
on 2005-09-30 (17:26), you wrote: > [-] Other : AVs on editor invokation During leaving TB! I got all there AV/errors - see attachments Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.

Re[2]: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Martin, Monday, October 03, 2005, 10:46:03, you wrote: >>You are right - I forgot to write in the original post that the >>problems over here are with OTFE. How can I reproduce this problem? It never hangs in my case. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAI

Re[2]: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/3/2005 6:12 AM Hi John, On 10/2/2005 John Thomas wrote: JT> My thought was if the developers used only IMAP they could JT> have more experiences that IMAP users have. If they only use POP, they JT> will not have those experiences. TB was, is, and will be the best POP client. For the develop

Re: IMAP Bugs & Sales Opportunity

2005-10-03 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello John Thomas, On Monday, 03 Oktober 2005 at 02:45, you wrote: > I would like to go on record as saying that IMAP is much better with > your settings, but still needs work. Yes, and that's indeed a curious situation. One really can't count how often this process of getting IMAP work better

Re: "Find messages" problem

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Schoch
Hello Jay, Monday, October 3, 2005, 6:00:08 AM, you wrote: > With OTFE, the search has never worked for me. Not only the Stop > button does not stop, but the search never finishes. Hence, confirmed > and reconfirmed... to the point that this basic feature is the only > thing that I am interested