Re: SmartPad, two-monitor mode

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, November 20, 2005 22:36, Vili wrote: > I have an extra external monitor attached to my computer. It is not > possible to put SmartPad to the 2nd monitor. If I move it there, it > vanishes.Thecause:the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sof

Re: Special menu, Create filter

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 21-Nov-2005 at 04:41 you (Vili) wrote: > This menu item does not work on the main screen. Confirmations? http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4084 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) All the strength and force of man comes from

SmartPad, two-monitor mode

Hello tbbeta, I have an extra external monitor attached to my computer. It is not possible to put SmartPad to the 2nd monitor. If I move it there, it vanishes.Thecause:the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\SmartPad\Left key is like 4 billion, instead of some normal

Special menu, Create filter

Hello tbbeta, This menu item does not work on the main screen. Confirmations? -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUD

Re[2]: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello Thomas, V>> Now I can finish the manual of 3.62 :) It should be ready by V>> Tuesday :) > Will that be in English or Hungarian? Hungarian... I am for the 400 pages :))) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 ___

Re: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello Vili, On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:43:03 +0100 GMT (21/11/2005, 00:43 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V> Dont ask me, why it affects TB! speed... Dont know. But happy, that V> it is fast again. Glad to hear that. I followed this thread with interest, even though I couldn't contribute. V> Now I can fini

Re[3]: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 1:00:45 PM, you wrote: >> I did see the QT you had a problem with. It seems very simple and >> should not be causing the problem. V> That is my opinion, too... Good work on finding a solution. However, I'm still wondering how a QT could impact graphic

Re: TBV and the regitry

Hi Maxim, On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, at 18:22:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:22 where I live) you wrote about: 'TBV and the regitry' > Beta version of the Voyager still keeps something in the registry, but > we will eliminate registry usage in the release version. Thanks for the confirmation ! -- Robe

Re: 3.62.14: Marking a messages as Read in a VF doesn't

Hello MAU, > Well, it is not exactly as the Subject says. It is actually a VF > refreshing problem, but let me explain. And that is why I have just added my previous message as a note to BT report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4158 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain

Re: TBV and the regitry

Hello Michael Schneider & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 17:27 you (Michael Schneider) wrote: > Ah. I see. Again betatesters don't get the chance to test everything before > release ... great idea *thumbs up* Lately I've seen hardly anything but ranting from some list members... thats a pity.

Re: TBV and the regitry

Am Sonntag, 20. November 2005 17:22 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: >>I would like to understand something. >> TBV is a portable application intended to work on a usb key, so, why >> some setting values are stored in the windows registry ? > > Beta version of the Voyager still keeps something in the r

Re: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account.

Hello Alexander, > Must be a local phenomenon. I tried your account files, but I don't see any > difference. Same thing here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playing: Kim Waters - Steppin Out (Smoothjazz.Co

Re[2]: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account.

Hello Alexander, >> Could you confirm me this? > Must be a local phenomenon. I tried your account files, but I don't see any > difference. Thanks Alexander. I figured that one of the simple QT of that account caused it. As you could not reproduce it, maybe it is local... I am just happy, that it

Re[2]: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello Stuart, V>> Dont ask me, why it affects TB! speed... Dont know. But happy, that it V>> is fast again. Now I can finish the manual of 3.62 :) It should be V>> ready by Tuesday :) > I tried loading them, but could not see the messages. I deleted all mail from it. But even with no mail, it mad

Re: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account.

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 18:18 you (Vili) wrote: > Could you confirm me this? Must be a local phenomenon. I tried your account files, but I don't see any difference. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Aftermath #

Re: SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 18:43:03 GMT +0100 V> Hello guys (and Ethan, I send you this in private), V> Ok, I managed to find the real source of the problem. Quick V> template... V> In that account that I sent to this list, if you installed, yo

SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account. Part 2.

Hello guys (and Ethan, I send you this in private), Ok, I managed to find the real source of the problem. Quick template... In that account that I sent to this list, if you installed, you could see that I had 4 QTs. If you delete the first, called "Proba", TB! will be fast. Dont ask me, why it a

Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Ethan, See the mail I sent in private, too... > So, I think we can continue to play detective. The clues continue to > point to the same problem, code issues. My personal expectation is > that the program will operate with the same level of speed performance > or better than 3.0.2.10. > PS

SOLUTION for slow redraw... Faulty account.

(I resend this mail, it was refused first) Hello guys (and Ethan, I send you this in private), Yes, yes, yes :))) I managed to solve the problem, my TB! is fast like hell, again : So, the story: I moved away (backup: copied the account folders to an other directory of my HDD) 8

Re[3]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 11:10:36 AM, you wrote: V> Ok, I "deleted" (moved out from TB! dir) all of my accounts except 4. V> It is MUUCH faster now... Question: why the heck the number of V> accounts effects the redraw... TB! runs thru all of the accounts when V> I close a mail?

Re: A little bug ...

Hello all, Saturday, November 19, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote: > When I choose account/properties/tempplates/edit quick templates/new > for creating a new one, I receive the following error message > "Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu1' not found." > What does it mean ? not confirmed here. And please,

Re[2]: TB Voyager and its interface

Hello Claude, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 15:27:24, you wrote: >>And what to do to solve this ? We have to investigate this. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.62.14 | '

Re[2]: TBV and the regitry

Hello Claude, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 17:06:25, you wrote: >>CR>I would like to understand something. >>CR> TBV is a portable application intended to work on a usb key, so, why >>CR> some setting values are stored in the windows registry ? Beta version of the Voyager still keeps something

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Vili, On 20-11-2005 17:10, you [V] wrote in : V> Question: why the heck the number of accounts effects the redraw... V> TB! runs thru all of the accounts when I close a mail??? May be related: When I run the maintenance centre to remove duplicates in a MyGate account (I have previously posted the

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, >> Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis >> (650-740) > As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its > a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it have > its own gfx memory or is it shared memory?

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hallo Vili, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:55:39 -0500GMT (19-11-2005, 19:55 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V> So, please answer this questions: V> 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your V> original main screen? Estimate. Less than one V> 2. What is you op.system (if X

OT: Windows Update (was: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause)

Hello Greg, On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:35:04 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 22:35 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS> see 'Windows XP Service Pack 2' at GS> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx under 'After you GS> install' you will see 'Windows security center'. It looks like the GS> 'Securit

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Ethan J. Mings & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 16:35 you (Ethan J. Mings) wrote: > I just wish I could provide additional information. Someone should start & file a bug report! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you can look into the seeds o

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, >> Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not see this behaviour... > Now that you mention it... I just started 3.0.2.10 to make a comparison, > and YES, I can confirm that 3.62.14 is a LOT slower opening and closing its > windows. Its not such a dramatic difference on my

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, >> Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis >> (650-740) > As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its > a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it have > its own gfx memory or is it shared memory?

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 10:09:00 AM, you wrote: ASK> (I reckon it IS a TB ASK> issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how big are the mail ASK> folders, when was your last purge&compress, etc. - I for one find my TB ASK> getting slower when I did not compress the ms

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, >> My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? > This will certainly have an effect. > But it may be a lot of other things, not only TBs code (I reckon it IS a TB > issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how big are the mail > folders, when was your last p

Re[6]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Stuart, V>> (And anyone else): please try it for me: V>> Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and V>> an other software (C) open. > Everything very quick here. Could it be one of your preferences that > is causing the problem? Give me guesses, I am open for anyth

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 16:14 you (Vili) wrote: > Just to be sure: what is your graphics card type. Mine is some Sis > (650-740) As we're slowly gathering more information :-) ... 4200rpm harddisk, so its a laptop computer you're using... and that SIS gfx thingie, does it h

Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Ethan, V>> So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V>> educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V>> on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V>> see this behaviour... > I agree and support your observation

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 15:45 you (Vili) wrote: > My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? This will certainly have an effect. But it may be a lot of other things, not only TBs code (I reckon it IS a TB issue now that I've tried 3.0.2.10). For example, how

Re: TBV and the regitry

Bonjour Claude, Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 14:07:05, vous écriviez : CR> Hi, CR>I would like to understand something. CR> TBV is a portable application intended to work on a usb key, so, why CR> some setting values are stored in the windows registry ? Max can you tell us more on this ?

Re[3]: 3 62 14 Closes Waaaaay Slow

Hello Ben, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 9:58:50 AM, you wrote: JP>> The longer The Bat is running, the L O N G E R it takes to close. I do JP>> use VFs and compress my folders on exit, but the compression whizzes by JP>> every time. If run for a long work day (> 12 hours), it will take just JP>> ov

Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 9:45:09 AM, you wrote: V> Did that. I have installed a clean TB! pro, same effect :(( Confirmed. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silve

Re: TB Voyager and its interface

Bonjour Vili, Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 15:36:07, vous écriviez : V> Hello Claude, MM>>> Did you ever use The Bat! v 3.62? MM>>> We've changed almost all graphics controls to unicode. This might MM>>> cause problems with screen readers. >> And what to do to solve this ? V> I have a client

Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 8:45:09 AM, you wrote: V> My laptop drive is 4200 rpm... Maybe this is the problem? This could be. Didn't realize they made them that slow. :) Something is definitely wrong as I have a Win98 machine with 64 MB RAM that is not as slow as you describe. -- B

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 15:32 you (Vili) wrote: > Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not see this behaviour... Now that you mention it... I just started 3.0.2.10 to make a comparison, and YES, I can confirm that 3.62.14 is a LOT slower opening and closing its w

Re[5]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 15:58:05 GMT +0100 V> (And anyone else): please try it for me: V> Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and V> an other software (C) open. Everything very quick here. Could it be one of your

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 7:55:25 AM, you wrote: >> I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: >> Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just >> wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( ASK> As I already wrote -

Re[3]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 9:32:49 AM, you wrote: V> So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V> educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V> on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V> see this behav

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Peter, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 4:44:18 AM, you wrote: PF> URL in the BT - I want to support it. I wrote a bug track quite a while ago on the memory issue. I guess I should open on on the graphic issue. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings __

Re: TB Voyager and its interface

Bonjour Maxim, Le samedi 19 novembre 2005 à 23:11:19, vous écriviez : MM> Hello Claude, MM> Did you ever use The Bat! v 3.62? MM> We've changed almost all graphics controls to unicode. This might MM> cause problems with screen readers. Don't remember using 3.62 but 3.6X sure ... And in 3.60 I

Re[2]: 3 62 14 Closes Waaaaay Slow

Howdy Jon, Friday, November 18, 2005, 1:38:04 PM, Jon wrotened: JP> On Thursday, November 17, 2005, 9:56:30 PM, Robert D. wrote: RD>> Did I already read this one? RD>> I have NO folders or accounts to purge nor compress. Yet when I close RD>> the program, the main window stays open sometimes 2

Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Stuart, (And anyone else): please try it for me: Lets say you have TB! main window (A), a mail in full window (B) and an other software (C) open. In the tray I click on C. Click on A. Quick redraw of A. In the tray I click on C. Click on B. Click on A. Slow redraw of A. In the tray I

Re[4]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Stuart, V>> So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V>> educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V>> on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighning fast, I did not V>> see this behaviour... > Time to do an uninstall/reinstall.

Re[3]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Sunday, November 20, 2005 at 15:32:49 GMT +0100 V> So, I think it is TB! problem, not graphics card problem... This is my V> educated guess: that component that displays the mails is not updated V> on my system... Until v3.0.1.33 my TB! was lighnin

Re[2]: TB Voyager and its interface

Hello Claude, MM>> Did you ever use The Bat! v 3.62? MM>> We've changed almost all graphics controls to unicode. This might MM>> cause problems with screen readers. > And what to do to solve this ? I have a client with the same problem. I read the JAWS pages and read that JAWS support unicode fro

Re[2]: Few question about TB Voyager

Hello Claude, >>> So I have few questions about TBV. >>> Currently we activate the product with a temporary key which is only >>> valid for 30 days, what will we have to do when this period will >>> expire ? V>> Buy. :) > And where to buy it ? > P.S. : is it logical that TB pro key are valid for T

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, > As I already wrote - what about the graphics & chipset drivers? One more thought: when I select a folder, I have to wait ca. 1 sec to see the emails... Imagine this: you use the down arrow to reach a folder... It takes many seconds sometimes. I am not get used to it. -- Vili

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Alexander, >> I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: >> Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just >> wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( > As I already wrote - what about the graphics & chipset drivers? Sorry, tha

Re: TB Voyager and its interface

Bonjour Vili, Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 01:26:24, vous écriviez : V> Hello Claude, >> And if I asked you if the interface has changed, it's also because, >> in the 3.60x versions I had no problem setting up tb browsing the >> various configuration dialogs, but in this version I notic

Re: Few question about TB Voyager

Bonjour Vili, Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 01:14:38, vous écriviez : V> Hello Claude, >> So I have few questions about TBV. >> Currently we activate the product with a temporary key which is only >> valid for 30 days, what will we have to do when this period will >> expire ? V> Buy. :) And w

Re: TB Voyager and its interface

Bonjour Maxim, Le samedi 19 novembre 2005 à 23:11:19, vous écriviez : MM> Hello Claude, MM> Did you ever use The Bat! v 3.62? MM> We've changed almost all graphics controls to unicode. This might MM> cause problems with screen readers. And what to do to solve this ? -- http://www.silverst

TBV and the regitry

Hi, I would like to understand something. TBV is a portable application intended to work on a usb key, so, why some setting values are stored in the windows registry ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Usin

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Vili & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 13:46 you (Vili) wrote: > I am thinking to change to an other client... It will be strange: > Hungarian distributor of TB! uses other than TB!... But I cant just > wait seconds for TB! just to close a window :((( As I already wrote - what

Re[2]: Now, this is strange...

Hello Peter, V>> - close your account tree V>> - focus on one of your account V>> - select a message list tab that is not "All" V>> - select "All" tab V>> You can see your Inbox mails... :) > I'm not sure what you're getting at. > Is it about protected accounts? > What was the selected folder list

Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Thomas, > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:07:06 -0500 GMT (20/11/2005, 04:07 +0700 GMT), > Vili wrote: V>> It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( > I guess you just need SP2. I don't use automated update (it caused I updated to SP2, no change. Still slow redraw of Windows... I am thi

So How much would the Voyager -cost..??

Hello, May be this is too early to ask and also may not be the right forum as well. I am starting to like Voyager. As of today, I have not many issues with it. I expect that Ritlabs will announce a pricing policy within the next 30 days or extend the time limit of the trial. I have been long wan

Re[2]: A little bug ...

Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 10:52:26 AM, you wrote: ASK> Maybe the subjects for questions/bugs regarding Voyager should be marked ASK> somehow... Agreed, otherwise it wold be a little confusing. ciao, luigi -- Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack

Re: A little bug ...

Hello Luigi Rosa & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 10:46 you (Luigi Rosa) wrote: CR>> When I choose account/properties/tempplates/edit quick templates/new CR>> for creating a new one, I receive the following error message CR>> "Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu1' not found." > Not confirmed here. You

Re: A little bug ...

Hello Claude, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 10:19:24 PM, you wrote: CR> When I choose account/properties/tempplates/edit quick templates/new CR> for creating a new one, I receive the following error message CR> "Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu1' not found." Not confirmed here. Ciao, luigi -- Usi

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Ethan, On 20-11-2005 00:45, you [EJM] wrote in : PF>> I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when PF>> you you first open TB! EJM> I've reported this problem quite a while ago. There is something EJM> very strange on the graphics side. URL in the BT - I want to support it

Re: Can't activate Voyager beta

So - you mau have to break down and use IE or FF. I think I used IE in this particular instance. Neal, as I implied, I have used IE and every combination of order number and TB key I have here. No luck - and no response from Ritlabs here. Strange! -- Regards Clive Taylor

Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause

Hello Greg Strong & everyone else, on 20-Nov-2005 at 06:17 you (Greg Strong) wrote: > On WinXP Pro click 'Start' | 'Programs' | 'Windows Update'. When I do so > I receive the 'Error Message' below in the quote box. When I have > 'Automatic Updates' set to 'Startup type' of 'Automatic', then when