Re: Autobackup Fails [was: (no subject)]
Hello all, Saturday, March 3, 2007, Simon wrote: I am sure this worked correctly in an earlier Beta I have the settings as detailed below via the Url's. I 'think' the Backup file should simply be named by date, which is fine for me. There is no duplicate filename in the destination folder, and, the destination is on-line - it is a USB Hard Disc though; would the spin up time, approx. 5 seconds, cause this issue below? date and time in comment field is not applied to filename, this is internal info. If You want to define date in filename, use macro like this: C:\auto-backup_%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on opening URL with Firefox closed [was Re: (no subject)]
Hi Simon and fellow beta testers, Friday, March 2, 2007, 3:30:44 PM, you wrote: RS Up running fine here except for the attached that RS happens with the last couple of betas when I click on a RS link inside a message like the one above. After getting RS that error, TB! continues on and opens up Firefox and I RS can download the file. S I have seen this too, twice. The error box is presented if Firefox S (as default browser) is not open when the link it clicked. S The error displays, Firefox opens, the file is downloaded as normal. I reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] that I've seen the same thing, but Alexander pointed out that it may be related to Firefox itself and not The Bat!. I believe he's right, and I think I can demonstrate it. Try this. Create a shortcut on your desktop to a web page. Make sure Firefox is *not* open, as this is a necessary condition. Click the shortcut to open the web page to which it points. The error is generated. (See attached.) I can reproduce this every time and The Bat! is *not* involved, so I conclude the error is being thrown by Firefox, not by any of the recent betas. I am using Firefox version 2.0.0.2. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.98.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 FF error.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on opening URL with Firefox closed
Hi Simon and fellow beta testers, Saturday, March 3, 2007, 6:25:07 AM, you wrote: S I'm sure they are working on the fix :) Fortunately it's only a minor irritant. I'm sure it will eventually be resolved. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.98.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on opening URL with Firefox closed [was Re: (no subject)]
Guten Tag Perry Nelson, am Samstag, 3. März 2007 um 12:06 schrieben Sie: , so I conclude the error is being thrown by Firefox, not by any of the recent betas. I am using Firefox version 2.0.0.2. It seems like you are using some kind of DynamicDNS Service - such a page is usually needed to find your external IP Adress. http://www.dslreports.com/whois Answer: The IP that just fetched this page is 84.56.160.xyz If you cannot find any problems, try to enter into your Adress-Bar: about:config And search for keyword url try to find dslreports in the Content of the keys (last row). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Maxim, Friday, March 2, 2007, 9:09:28 PM, you wrote: MM Please test HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03, MM especially forwarding messages using these editors and Not tried yet... MM replying quoting selected text. Three scenario's (and I can't find the reason): - quoted text shows up, but, even though its an html-message I'm replying to, the reply is not in html (opens up Micro-Ed). - HTML-editor is opened, but the selected text isn't quoted - HTML-editor is opened and the selected text *_is_* quoted. MM We've done some changes in these editors. Would it be very difficult to give the user more alternatives for the blue line/block/zigzag? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.98.3 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 3:16:56) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on opening URL with Firefox closed
Hi Jens and fellow beta testers, Saturday, March 3, 2007, 7:20:05 AM, you wrote: JF It seems like you are using some kind of DynamicDNS Service - such a JF page is usually needed to find your external IP Adress. That correct, Jens. I used that address only to illustrate that the error message is also generated from a shortcut on my desktop, not just when clicking on a URL in The Bat! -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.98.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: (no subject)
Hi Alexander, Friday, March 2, 2007, 10:51:27 PM, you wrote: For me, the downloads from ritlabs.com are rather slow for a while now, between 25kb/s and 35kb/s at best. Is it only me? Same here. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.98.1 on Windows XP Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello Alexander On Friday, March 2, 2007 you wrote: Whats the point of naming the thing 3.98.02.2? Why not use 3.98.03 instead? You skipped the entire 3.97.x branch after the 3.96.x betas, and you don't owe me an explanation (maybe its some sort of moldavian superstition that 3.97 is an evil number?), but still, I'd prefer a more consistent version numbering. After all, there's still 97 subversions left that can use 3.98.xx numbering given that we're at .02 now. :-P Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the release? v4 will be a new release but unless you really HAVE uncovered a Moldavian Conspiricy, it probably reflects concerns the amount of code that was changed and added -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.2.2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re:
On Fri 2-Mar-07 10:45pm -0600, Ian A. White (REPLY TO LIST) wrote: On Saturday, March 3, 2007, 3:05:01 PM, you (Henk M. de Bruijn) wrote: HMdB On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, at 14:57:23 [GMT -0500] (which was 20:57 where I HMdB live) Ron Secord wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39803.rar RS Up running fine here except for the attached that happens with the RS last couple of betas when I click on a link inside a message like the RS one above. After getting that error, TB! continues on and opens up RS Firefox and I can download the file. HMdB Confirmed. I just tried it and no problems here. No error message here also. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.98.3 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Autobackup Fails [was: (no subject)]
Hello Simon, A reminder of what Simon typed on: Saturday, March 03, 2007 at 09:26:55 GMT + S Hi Maxim, S In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Friday, S March 2, 2007, 5:50:37 PM, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39803.rar S I am sure this worked correctly in an earlier Beta I have the S settings as detailed below via the Url's. I 'think' the Backup S file should simply be named by date, which is fine for me. There S is no duplicate filename in the destination folder, and, the S destination is on-line - it is a USB Hard Disc though; would the S spin up time, approx. 5 seconds, cause this issue below? S The system has triggered it's scheduled weekly backup [11.30pm], S however this morning I find a dialogue box on screen S asking/prompting me to select or name the file. When I cancel from S that dialogue, the system (rightly) tells me there is no filename, S click OK on that, it then tells me Backup has failed. S Settings -: S http://cg-online.me.uk/1/03030701.png S http://cg-online.me.uk/1/03030702.png S Actions Presented -: S http://cg-online.me.uk/1/0303073.png S http://cg-online.me.uk/1/0303074.png S http://cg-online.me.uk/1/0303075.png -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.98.3 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Complete folder lost
Hello all, Saturday, March 3, 2007, Peter Hampf wrote: While reading messages in a folder with app. 1700 messages in it I deleted 2 messages and compressed the folder. While compression was in progress, TB received one new message for this folder and told me that there was an error reading this message. I was asked to repair the folder. TB happily started the repair progress and returned with a completely wiped folder. All messages are lost and there is nothing to recover! So think twice before answering 'yes' ... check directory of this folder on HDD, if some problem appeared, You should find backup files Messages.bck and Messages.ibk. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Complete folder lost
Guten Tag Peter Hampf, am Samstag, 3. März 2007 um 19:50 schrieben Sie: But while trying to export the newly received messages for a later import, I encountered the following: When exporting to Unix mailbox via Tools/Export, everything is OK. When saving via Message/Save as, TB writes the first line readable, followed by kilobytes of garbage. (Probably encrypted stuff?) Can you verify this? The first line in such a file looks for example like this: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 3 19:42:54 2007 [23K garbage] The same happened to me, i would be interested in a solution too. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Maxim, hello tbbeta, MM Please test HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03, MM especially forwarding messages using these editors and replying MM quoting selected text. We've done some changes in these editors. Please have a look to this picture. http://www.weidmania.de/TheBat/Bild1.jpg That's the way it looks, while I'm editing a massage. -- Regards Frank :d-flag2: Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally. __ The Bat! 3.98.3 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: V4 soon?
Hello all, Saturday, March 3, 2007, Simon wrote: Bit OT at the moment... Just noticed the below -: http://cg-online.me.uk/1/0303077.png Are we about to get some nice upgrades for version 4? :) there is 10th anniversary of The Bat!'s birth this year, so as I think, we can expect it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hi Everyone, Saturday, March 3, 2007, 1:24:38 PM, Frank wrote: Hello Maxim, hello tbbeta, MM Please test HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03, MM especially forwarding messages using these editors and replying MM quoting selected text. We've done some changes in these editors. Please have a look to this picture. http://www.weidmania.de/TheBat/Bild1.jpg That's the way it looks, while I'm editing a massage. This is how .html looks for me when editing. -- Take Care, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.96.14 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello Alexander On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote: Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on Saturday, March 3, 2007 at 16:00 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: Is not version numbering used to note how much work was done in the release? It would be entirely new to me that there are strict guidelines how developers should use version numbering. :-) Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to research who and where. Nothing that could or should be enforced If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite) It's been years since I have seen that Here's a Wikipedia article that demonstrates that there is a definite structure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Complete folder lost
Hello Peter On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote: Thanks, Marek. I was able to get the messages back. Great! But those apparently empty folders have a very definite effect on the bowels :)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello all, Saturday, March 3, 2007, Rick Grunwald wrote: Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to research who and where. Nothing that could or should be enforced If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite) and do You really think, any company uses this? As I remember, we were able to see Google Desktop 1.x, 2.x 3.x and 4.x during one year. So should we expect, they completely rewrote its code threetimes in one year? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
On Saturday, March 3, 2007, 21:33:48, Rick Grunwald wrote: Sorry but there are strict guidelines although I would have to research who and where. Nothing that could or should be enforced If a version goes from v3 to 3.1 then 10% of the code has been updated. When you change from v3 to v4 then there has been a significant re-development. (not necessarily a complete rewrite) Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :) -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.98.3 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If two wrongs don't make a right, try three. -- Nixon's Rule Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello Marek On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote: and do You really think, any company uses this? As I remember, we were able to see Google Desktop 1.x, 2.x 3.x and 4.x during one year. So should we expect, they completely rewrote its code threetimes in one year? It doesn't matter what I think. I was explaining that there IS a protocol for numbering software. I SPECIFICALLY said it didn't mean a total rewrite but the decimals usually indicate the approximate amount of code AFFECTED. Whole number increments are new versions - I didn't even TRY to imply that they threw out all there old code and started fresh (Really!) Ritlabs could decide that all is ready and take this very release and rename it 4.0 and release it as a new version But since you asked what I think my answer is YES most big companies are in compliance and follow it fairly closely. It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines. But it does exist -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello Jernej On Saturday, March 3, 2007 you wrote: Find me MS Word 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 (And Windows NT 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 :) It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines It is not a set of rules but rather guidelines You either get it or you don't Lets close the subject - you are 100% correct -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat 3.98.2.2 on Vista
Hi Maxim, well, it showed up that another person (JOhn C) is having the same problem, also just from time to time. See bug tracker. So it is an issue you should have a closer look at. Problem is that I cannot tell you anything more at the moment... :-/ BTW: No problems so far with 3.98.3. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.3 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: V4 soon?
sábado, 3 mar 2007 at 21:24, it seems you wrote: http://cg-online.me.uk/1/0303077.png Are we about to get some nice upgrades for version 4? :) It seems the webpage has changed a little https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/changelog_page.php The Bat - 4.0 = - 0001873: [Interface] Editor does not reset its scrollbar / scrollposition after deleting a block (Maxim Masiutin) Reading that it seems it will not be more middle revisiones for The Bat! 3.x -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.98.3 Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 1.8.0.8 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Bob, On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:31:39 -0700 GMT (04/03/2007, 03:31 +0700 GMT), Bob Riley wrote: Please have a look to this picture. http://www.weidmania.de/TheBat/Bild1.jpg That's the way it looks, while I'm editing a massage. BR This is how .html looks for me when editing. shudder Here is a wish for v4: Please let us use external editors. This wish came up first, I think, already during v1 times. I do need to reply in HTML to some messages in the office, and the TB! HTML editor produces embarrasing results (starting from that blue line at the left). As the advantages of HTML mails (mostly fomratting issues) are used by more and more people, and hence my need for replies in HTML increases, I am considering installing something like Eudora Free on my computer, just for replies in HTML. Yes, I know Eudora uses the Outlook HTML engine. Ideally, TB! would have an option to do the same. To all anti-HTML gurus: I'm in business, and I'm communicating with customers, so please hold back your philosophy. That's another dicussion which can be held on TBOT. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hi Everyone, Friday, March 2, 2007, 1:09:28 PM, Maxim wrote: Hello Tbbeta, Please test HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03, especially forwarding messages using these editors and replying quoting selected text. We've done some changes in these editors. I have done the reply with quoted text using the .html editor and all was fine (given that I accept the unusual way that quoted text appears - not very glorious but certainly functional). Have a re-enspiriting Sunday, everyone - please. Bob Riley -- Using The Bat! v3.98.3 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
3/4/2007 1:25 AM Hi Thomas, TF Here is a wish for v4: Please let us use external editors. This wish TF came up first, I think, already during v1 times. I do need to reply in TF HTML to some messages in the office, and the TB! HTML editor produces TF embarrasing results (starting from that blue line at the left). As the TF advantages of HTML mails (mostly fomratting issues) are used by more TF and more people, and hence my need for replies in HTML increases, I am TF considering installing something like Eudora Free on my computer, just TF for replies in HTML. TF Yes, I know Eudora uses the Outlook HTML engine. Ideally, TB! would TF have an option to do the same. TF To all anti-HTML gurus: I'm in business, and I'm communicating with TF customers, so please hold back your philosophy. That's another TF dicussion which can be held on TBOT. Thanks. Why do you bother with TB? There are plenty of HTML alternatives. I too am in business communicating with customers around the world. I am also in the business of educating them. I teach them to create PDF attachments with OpenOffice or PagePlus as superior alternatives to HTML when formatting is necessary. The US Dept. of Defense has banned HTML and Microsoft email clients and for good reason. Don't you even suggest that we turn TB into the same crap. Being in business is _no_ excuse for adulterating TB! If you want to jump in the lake and drown, do it. Don't take anyone else with you. History proves 80% of the people are wrong 80% of the time. I want to remain with the 20%. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.95.06 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: V4 soon?
Warsaw/PL, Sunday, March 4, 2007 Hello Marek, On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, at 21:28:10 (which was 21:28 where I live) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Are we about to get some nice upgrades for version 4? :) there is 10th anniversary of The Bat!'s birth this year, so as I think, we can expect it. Earliest thebat.exe file that I have is 1.00.80 Beta, dated 16.06.1997. We've got few months to go then :- -- Michal Kosinski TB! 3.98.3 (EF79B4F8) | Windows XP 5.1.2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
