Re[2]: Need help to find an alternative for TB
http://www.forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update WOW ! Nested folders !!! :-D As an 'oldie' I translated that for myself to 'subdirectories'. If I'm wrong with that, I might not have understood till now my copy of Forté Agent. ;-) The meeting of the clairvoyants was cancelled because of unexpected troubles.. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Slow shutdown speed
With the steady stream of new build, I have to shutdown TB almost everyday to try the new builds (I usually keep it running 24/7). And now I have noticed that shutting down TB takes quite long. There was an issue before (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831). This issue was closed last march, but I have reopened it. Some statistics: 5 seconds until UI disappears 180 seconds (3 minutes !) until program disappears from memory almost no processor/network activity in the meantime Windows Vista Business 64, SP1, 8 Gb Intel Core Duo 6400 2.14 GHz TB Memory usage 35 Mb (Peak 47 Mb) Message Base: 4 accounts 335.000 messages 15 virtual folders Message base 4 Gb, in 52 directories located on Gigabit LAN. Is anyone else seeing this too ? -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Camera
Hi, during the install of the latest MSI I got a TB-window in which was asked to press OK or reject for new (web)camera settings. I pressed 'reject' and the the installation was completed. Strange! -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) under 6, 6001 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Slow shutdown speed
Title: Re: TB Slow shutdown speed Hello Robert, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 at 09:19:07 [GMT +0100] (which was 09:19 where I live) you wrote: I have noticed that shutting down TB takes quite long. Not here, 5 seconds until UI disappears 15 seconds until program disappears from memory Windows XP 5.1 SP3, 1 Go AMD Turion 64 1.60 GHz TB Memory usage 33 Mb (Peak 40 Mb) 12 accounts 28 msgs 5 virtuals folders Message base 1.5 Go 235 directories located on a local SATA Attached files 4.5 Go 48 directories located on a local USB 2 There was an issue before (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831). This issue was closed last march, but I have reopened it. -- Regards, Alain :aggy: :flag-france: The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-17 · 03:01 h (CET)] Moin, Arjan! We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the frequent Alfa-, Beta-, RC- or whatever version announcements, or answering questions of even more d*m***t*d The Beta! customers, doesn't really count as beta testing. Weeks (months?) ago we already had this discussion and it does not make any sense to renew it! Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-16 · 23:49 h (CET)] Moin, Arjan! Could you please be so kind and show me/us just one software, which is finished, i.e. *no* further work/improvement is needed, and which is completely bugfree, i.e. no further bugfixing/service packs are required. Forte Agent is an example of such software. And you want to to tell me that Forté Agent is completely bugfree? If you say so, I believe it. ;-) Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite of The Beta! So my advice for you is: Stick with Forté Agent and be happy! :-) EOD Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Last Chance to See« Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
Dear Rick, -- Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008, 05:30:01: Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted up and running postings? I work hard on those! I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride. What can I say? I have become a Ritlabs automaton. They say PAY! and my hand proceeds jerkily towards my wallet. They issue a new version and I yet again craft an up and running prose complete with all my system information for their perusal. My free will is gone. [sigh] No you have become a BAT!holic. UR is just the same RITual as, let's say, skoal with a good glass of wine. Not all who skoal have good knowledge on wine nor are good 'tester' - ähm - 'taster'. Some only consume too much - that's why we call them BAT!holic - ups - I mean Alcoholic. Alcoholics can't taste nor test unless there is a Wine show (something like the Beta ML) where all gather and test. Once you decided to get a BAT!ttle that you will carry home you have to pay for. Just my simple 2c ;) -- best regards | Using The Bat! 4.0.38 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on Tour | Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:57:31 +0100, Jens Franik wrote: developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1 release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay tuned. Marek, i tried to use IMAP, but it did not work recently. If this is to become true in a near future, i might switch to IMAP for some Accounts to have the Mails on the Server. And of course a lot of people here which were waiting some long years would be very happy... In our country there is a saying which translates roughly as follows: a donkey doesn't hurt itself on the same stone twice. That's exactly the reason why I take this new implementation announcement with a pinch of salt. Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.1.1.7
The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4117.rar What's new in 4.1.1.7 since 4.1.1.6: [-] Some fixes in HTML viewer, please check various html messages and attachments Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
On Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:30:49 AM, Rick wrote: In a reply, if a quoted area is wider than the window, the message will not wrap within the bounds of the window, rather it will keep scrolling right, pushing the text to the left Aren't you looking a pages which are coded that way. Which will behave the same way in firefox or msie? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 3) Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:33:34 AM, you wrote: M Please see attached PNGs. The 3 possible states seem perfectly M distinguishable here. Your PNGs are perfectly distinguishable. But on my machine with the theme set to Windows (default) there is no similar distinction. What I see in an embossed or not embossed icon that with a barely distinguishable icon -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Jens, In editing plain text messages, the difference in appearance of the icon for the on/off options of Confirm receipt and Reading confirmation are barely distinguishable. The are only sunk to show they are checked - if you hoover over the Button it comes up again and you never know what state it is... Maybe the Background should change or the Symbol? Please see attached PNGs. The 3 possible states seem perfectly distinguishable here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 attachment: Icon_normal.pngattachment: Icon_hover.pngattachment: Icon_set.png Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
Hello Maxim, The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4117.rar I, MAU, have VOLUNTARILY taken the time to download, extract and install the above beta version. Also VOLUNTARILY, I am willing to at least use this beta for my normal work and private email transactions, and perhaps doing some specific testing (if I have the time, knowledge and willingness at the moment), being fully aware that, because I'm using a beta, I VOLUNTARILY take the risk of running into communication problems and damaging (or even loosing) my email message base. Because I am aware of the risks of using a beta, and because I'm not totally stupid, I also VOLUNTARILY take the time to back-up with an external tool my The Bat! installation and full message base. As you can see in my signature, I am already using this beta and so far had no problems. I could have said all the above by just saying Up running, but... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, M Please see attached PNGs. The 3 possible states seem perfectly M distinguishable here. Your PNGs are perfectly distinguishable. But on my machine with the theme set to Windows (default) there is no similar distinction. What I see in an embossed or not embossed icon that with a barely distinguishable icon That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: UNIX mailbox import broken
Hello Marek, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 19:47:20, you wrote: I have tried to import UNIX mailbox created by The Bat! in the past, TB done this very slowly so I have checked drive and it creates empty TMP files in working directory. Thank you for pointing that out. Unix mailbox import is now broken. We will fix it in the next beta. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Hello Hans, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:03:35 +0100 GMT (18/12/2008, 00:03 +0700 GMT), Hans Stam wrote: Well, I'm using Forté Agent already for many years, from version 1, HS but only as my default newsclient and, if nessesary, for private emailreply HS to a news-contributor. At the moment I use version 4.2 with a valid key HS for the upcoming v5. The support is OK, but the email part of it can't stand HS in the shadow of TB in my actual copy. [...] HS Of course it depends on what you wish with an emailprogram. Most of HS the emailprograms has ton of features you never use. HS I have also the German emailprogram AK-Mail, http://www.akmail.com/ HS On the site you can read: der email-client ohne ballast HS I like this filosophy! I never have problems with this program, it is HS fast too! Oh, sure. I just saw that your above quote was created with AK Mail. No ballast such as reasonbable line breaks at quoting or honouring the signature delimiter... Thanks for your great example, I think I'll stay with The Bat! for the time being. -- Cheers, Thomas. The president has the power to appoint and disappoint the members of his cabinet. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 19:28 schrieb Arjan de Groot: It has one major flaw. It tends to choke on retrieving when large amounts of mail are residing on my server. 500 or more I'd say. But I've found a work-around for that problem. You can also use fetchmail with the Cygwin Enviroment ;-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:08:18 +0100, MAU wrote: [Exploring the depths of the Beta Cave] I could have said all the above by just saying Up running, but... ... my name is on the Credit Roll and I'm getting my upgrades for free. ;-) Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 4.1.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4117.rar What's new in 4.1.1.7 since 4.1.1.6: [-] Some fixes in HTML viewer, please check various html messages and attachments In a reply, if a quoted area is wider than the window, the message will not wrap within the bounds of the window, rather it will keep scrolling right, pushing the text to the left FORWARDED MESSAGES ATTACHMENTS - while editing, you can view pictures as expected and the save feature is active but not working. Also you cannot drag an attachment to the desktop or do anything to it except delete/ -- Rick Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts. And we are never, ever the same. - Unknown v4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.1.1.6 HTML loading caused scrolling back to start
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5: [-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the start Confirmed fixed, i had this Problem since a long time... But: the scrollbar jumps back to top and then back to the actual position - now it it is flashing a lot! Is there any better solution? [-] Hints didn't work in the status bar Confirmed fixed - but there is no hint for the Insert/Overwrite Button. New Problem: The Parent Folders Templates do not affect the Subfolders any more in Common Folders, as you see in this Message i have no Version of The_Bat shown, because i answer out of a Subfolder TheBat/Versions_Beta-Alpha. In the Parent Folder TheBat i have defined: ,- [ New Message Template ] | -- | Mit freundlichen Grüßen | %FromName | mailto:%FromAddr | Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg | The Bat! %THEBATVERSION AntiSpamSniper %QINCLUDE=ASS | %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION | build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION | %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Kr_bat:)%- | %SetHeader(X-Rogue-URL,http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg;)%- `- And even the Sender has not been set: ,- [ Error Bouncing ] | You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has | been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are | being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at `- -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:j...@franik.net Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Registration - v4.x)
Hallo Arjan, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:41:49 +0100GMT (17-12-2008, 11:41, where I live), you wrote: ADG Yes, Bat!holicism is like religion. Pray with me: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Arjan. ' This topic has gone way off / too long / too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead in fairness to the purpose and other members of the list. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Take a quiet vacation and it hits the fan. Law of Moderators pgpv7PgE2EL9c.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Hello, I am now following this discussion for quite a while. In my opinion the moderators should close such threads (this covers the other one about the registration-v4.x too) and move them somewhere else. Maybe there is a mailing list which covers issues like that ... I subscribed to this list because I am interested in the beta development and relation issues - not in endless and fruitless discussions about pricing and alternatives. I don't want to have my mailbox filled with all this lamentations. -- Mit freundlichem Gruß / Best Regards Albrecht Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Flags Buttons to E-Mail
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta, in opened E-Mail i have customized Buttons for Park/Flag. If i press the Flag Button it is visible checked/pressed. This does not happen with the Park Button, is this WAD? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 20:43 schrieb Hans Stam: Pegasus Mail has a very nice, FREE, 4.51 version. The internation Version is 4.41 Pegasus sometimes ago has been a very sober Mailclient. I think the main difference is that professional Users would like to have the features of The-Bat and basic End Users may use Pegassus. Clyton To better meet our customer's needs, Gammadyne offers two types of licenses: a Shareware License and a Retail License. Shareware License The user is entitled to 5 activations. Once activated, the software will remain activated indefinitely unless it is moved to a different drive, or if a major upgrade (x.0) is installed. Minor upgrades are free. Activations are not restricted to one machine. Retail License The user is entitled to download the fully-enabled Retail Edition, which has no shareware limitations and does not use product activation. The user also receives 3 activations, which can be used to activate future upgrades of the Shareware Edition. Unlike the Shareware License, the Retail License is restricted to one machine. The two editions are identical in features and functionality. Clyton Shareware License $25 Clyton Retail License $35 or Pocomail # Barca (Calendar, Email, Planner) $59.95 # Barca Pro (Shared Calendars, Email, Planner) $79.95 # PocoMail (Email) $39.95 -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:58:48 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4117.rar No problem so far. -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 1:11:19 PM, you wrote: M That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. Attached is what mine look like with confirmation on (depressed) and reading request off (flat). -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3attachment: ScreenShot001.png Current beta is 4.1.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Hi Jens, You dont know what you have to expect, if they switch to premium customers support... Well, I'm using Forté Agent already for many years, from version 1, but only as my default newsclient and, if nessesary, for private emailreply to a news-contributor. At the moment I use version 4.2 with a valid key for the upcoming v5. The support is OK, but the email part of it can't stand in the shadow of TB in my actual copy. TB is as SMTP/POP3 mailclient IMO actual the top of the hill, that's why I stick to it, not for some sentimental loyalty reason. ... BBSers do it till well after 3:00 in the morning. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Icons
Hi, is there a set of icons available which are at least twice is big as the standard icons? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under 6, 6001 Current beta is 4.1.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 07:58 schrieb Hans Stam: Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite of The Beta! You are right Arjan..we know indeed what we have to expect ,- [ http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php ] | Free Agent | | Forté has offered Free Agent for more than 10 years. With the release | of Agent 4.0 we have decided to retire Free Agent and focus on providing | Agent customers with exciting new features and timely upgrades. `- You dont know what you have to expect, if they switch to premium customers support... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 16:22 schrieb Richard Newman: In editing plain text messages, the difference in appearance of the icon for the on/off options of Confirm receipt and Reading confirmation are barely distinguishable. The are only sunk to show they are checked - if you hoover over the Button it comes up again and you never know what state it is... Maybe the Background should change or the Symbol? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
UNIX mailbox import broken
Hello, I have tried to import UNIX mailbox created by The Bat! in the past, TB done this very slowly so I have checked drive and it creates empty TMP files in working directory. As I expect, it is related to feature introduced in 4.0.39.36: [+] Added mailbox import format for Communigate -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4118.rar What's new in 4.1.1.8 since 4.1.1.7: [-] Import from Unix mailboxes didn't work in the recent betas (BETA issue) [-] Import from Unix mailboxes did produce TMP files in the %TEMP% folder [-] The Bat! didn't start on Windows NT 4 (Beta issue) Current beta is 4.1.1.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: UNIX mailbox import broken
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote: Hello, I have tried to import UNIX mailbox created by The Bat! in the past, TB done this very slowly so I have checked drive and it creates empty TMP files in working directory. As I expect, it is related to feature introduced in 4.0.39.36: [+] Added mailbox import format for Communigate I have tried this in 4.0.39.38, this is what log says when importing standard UNIX mailbox file: v4.0.39.38 (BETA) MIKUS/Marek Mikuš 17.12.2008 18:36:13 MBase:24 EConvertError Invalid argument to date encode Date: 17 Dec 2008 18:36:13 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 2047/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1920/2047 MB CommandLine: theBat.exe /reg:NEW14 Address: 0043851E ClassName: EConvertError Message: Invalid argument to date encode IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20081211193244 D:\Program Files\The Bat!NEW14\thebat.exe Stack: 0043851E [0040] 00438519 [0040] 0043C115 [0040] 00B84B0D [0040] 00B84507 [0040] 00B762B0 [0040] 009A9864 [0040] 009A9D57 [0040] 009B31BF [0040] 0074A9D6 [0040] 0074C433 [0040] 0074BCDA [0040] 0074C749 [0040] 0076B11E [0040] 004A857A [0040] 0050A779 [0040] 004A846B [0040] 00469F38 [0040] 0053E5D9 [0040] 0053E612 [0040] 0053E86A [0040] 00C6D2F2 [0040] 00C71405 [0040] 00C75E08 [0040] -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Christmas promotion?
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 20:31 schrieb Robert Tomanek: Ritlabs: now that we know that spending some cash for the 4.1 upgrade is inevitable -- any chance for a Christmas promotion (with reduced prices), as in previous years? This would not affect me any more, because i already payed for it at the regular fee... There could be a lot of Promotions, even a 10% off for the Beta People. But i would say the prices are not that high as other Software i buy, so it is fine with me just to pay the bill. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 21:08 schrieb Marek Mikus: IMAP implementation? developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1 release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay tuned. Marek, i tried to use IMAP, but it did not work recently. If this is to become true in a near future, i might switch to IMAP for some Accounts to have the Mails on the Server. And of course a lot of people here which were waiting some long years would be very happy... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
A few months ago I went through this process and tried almost every email client out there. I came back to TB! for the following reasons (a) Other applications were slower /more bloated on my netbook (b) Other applications were usually missing features I'd become used to in TB! The closest was Thunderbird, but it required so many add-ins to provide similar functionality that it slowed to a crawl. I'm hopeful that Thunderbird 3 (when announced) will address these issues. So I'm staying with 4.0.x until I see the next Thunderbird release (Jan/Feb '09) and then I'll decide. I'm only a POP3 man so I'm not worried about these IMAP discussions. Previous participants are right - that TB! has been promising improved IMAP for years, and they have re-written it more than once.. so I'm not sure what elese they can do. (I tried IMAP in Thunderbird - aand didn't see what the fuss was about... :) Graham Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[UR] 4.1.1.6
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 19:29 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) is available Up + Running -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
Hi Arjan, on Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:58:40 +0100GMT (17.12.2008, 19:58 +0100GMT here), you wrote: AdG On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:08:18 +0100, MAU wrote: AdG [Exploring the depths of the Beta Cave] I could have said all the above by just saying Up running, but... AdG ... my name is on the Credit Roll and I'm getting my upgrades for AdG free. AdG ;-) My name is not on the credit roll. I just bought the upgrade, because the last upgrade that had to be paid for was more than four years ago. I'm not so much interested in the HTML things, but I'm interested in The Bat!'s further development as a superior mail client. That's why I'm still into it. :D -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.1.1.7 RC1 :beta: on WinXP, SP3, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, several newsgroups via MyGate OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 1024 MB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.1.1.7
Hi Costas, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 10:34:22 AM, you wrote: Hello Maxim, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:58:48 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4117.rar No problem so far. Ditto! -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:06:24 +0200, Eddie Castelli wrote: What can I say? I have become a Ritlabs automaton. [] No you have become a BAT!holic. UR is just the same RITual as, let's say, skoal with a good glass of wine. [] Yes, Bat!holicism is like religion. Pray with me: Hail Ritlabs, full of grace, The Lord is with thee Blessed art thou among companies and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, The Beta!. Holy Ritlabs, Mother of The Beta!, pray for us users now and at the hour of our death. Amen Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4118.rar What's new in 4.1.1.8 since 4.1.1.7: [-] Import from Unix mailboxes didn't work in the recent betas (BETA issue) still not fixed, TB uses 40% of CPU and needs 4 seconds for every mail, I am checking growing of TBB in filemanager, because TB is not responding. [-] Import from Unix mailboxes did produce TMP files in the %TEMP% folder yes, no temp files now -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 12:29:19 PM, Maxim wrote: MM The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4116.rar MM What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5: MM [-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the start Confirmed as fixed. Thank you, RITLabs. While this bug was far from a showstopper, it's been a major pain in the rear for a long time. Good riddance! -- Regards, Morton A. Goldberg, DVM mailto:magoldb...@thebat.net http://inoculate128.blogspot.com/ Running The Bat! version 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) with AntiSpam Sniper 2.8.11 under Windows XP Professional SP3 Build 2600 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, M That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. Attached is what mine look like with confirmation on (depressed) and reading request off (flat). That doesn't look like the Default Windows theme I'm familiar with. Is that your selection in View/Themes of TB's main menu? And what about settings in Themes and Appearance tabs in your screen properties, do you have default values/colours selected? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 12:23 schrieb Gunivortus Goos: TB is as SMTP/POP3 mailclient IMO actual the top of the hill, that's why I stick to it, not for some sentimental loyalty reason. Exactly, while i think Forte is the same for Newsgroups (i recently used it for that matter). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hello Gunivortus, is there a set of icons available which are at least twice is big as the standard icons? Do you mean just toolbar icons or all icons that are used in TB's UI (menu icons, folders, flags, etc.)? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
confirmed as fixed;
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The Bat! 4.0.34
OS: Windows XP 5.1
Build 2600 Dodatek Service Pack 3
Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB stops respondning in editor for seconds since 4.1.1.7
Hello, this is strange thing, because when I am writing in Microed into header or body, TB stops responding for 3 or 4 seconds very often, You can see this in systray too, icon stops flying. I have discovered this today in 4.1.1.7 for the first time. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Marek, still not fixed, TB uses 40% of CPU and needs 4 seconds for every mail, I am checking growing of TBB in filemanager, because TB is not responding. I've just tested this right now and the message I first exported was imported instantly here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Well, I'm using Forté Agent already for many years, from version 1, but only as my default newsclient and, if nessesary, for private emailreply to a news-contributor. At the moment I use version 4.2 with a valid key for the upcoming v5. The support is OK, but the email part of it can't stand in the shadow of TB in my actual copy. I have also a registration for Forte Agent, in fact it is a newsreader with email, but the email options are quite good. Of course it depends on what you wish with an emailprogram. Most of the emailprograms has ton of features you never use. I have also the German emailprogram AK-Mail, http://www.akmail.com/ On the site you can read: der email-client ohne ballast I like this filosophy! I never have problems with this program, it is fast too! Hans ... BBSers do it till well after 3:00 in the morning. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3698 (20081217) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 20:58 schrieb Hans Stam: Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups.. You never tried out Blogbridge and RSSowl - this is what i think of a suitable RSS Reader... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB stops respondning in editor for seconds since 4.1.1.7
Hello Marek, this is strange thing, because when I am writing in Microed into header or body, TB stops responding for 3 or 4 seconds very often, You can see this in systray too, icon stops flying. I have discovered this today in 4.1.1.7 for the first time. Cannot confirm, sorry. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, MAU wrote: still not fixed, TB uses 40% of CPU and needs 4 seconds for every mail, I am checking growing of TBB in filemanager, because TB is not responding. I've just tested this right now and the message I first exported was imported instantly here. try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain Text marking word is curious?
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-12-17 · 11:12 h (CET)] Moin, Jens! if i mark a word in Plain Text Editor and i do a SHIFT-Left there is not one character less than before, but only the first one marked or only the first 3 marked - something like that... Did you highlight the word via double-click? If yes, I can confirm: The marked part of the word will be inverted up to the position of the cursor, e.g. double-click on the word curiosity: - curiosity is highlighted and cursor position may be between o and s - [shift] + [-] - curi is highlighted I don't know if this a bug or not. – I don't mind about that specific issue. ;-) Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:47:36 PM, you wrote: M Is that your selection in View/Themes of TB's main menu? Yes. M And what about settings in Themes and Appearance tabs in your M screen properties, do you have default values/colours selected? The are my customized default colors or theme, not an official MS color selection.But out of curiosity, I tried MS provided Windows XP and Windows Classic Themes with the same result just in different colors and shapes. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB stops respondning in editor for seconds since 4.1.1.7
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote: Hello, this is strange thing, because when I am writing in Microed into header or body, TB stops responding for 3 or 4 seconds very often, You can see this in systray too, icon stops flying. I have discovered this today in 4.1.1.7 for the first time. check attached video, TB stopped reponding after second word for 4 seconds. http://www.thebat.cz/files/editor.swf -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Marek, try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. 385 messages imported in 2 seconds. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration - v4.x
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 11:41 schrieb Arjan de Groot: Yes, Bat!holicism is like religion. Pray with me You SHOULD stop now, this is going to be nearly blasphemy. Could the Moderators please think about some actions? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain Text marking word is curious?
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 11:39 schrieb Volker Ahrendt: if i mark a word in Plain Text Editor and i do a SHIFT-Left there is not one character less than before, but only the first one marked or only the first 3 marked - something like that... Did you highlight the word via double-click? Exactly. I can confirm: The marked part of the word will be inverted up to the position of the cursor, e.g. double-click on the word curiosity: - curiosity is highlighted and cursor position may be between o and s - [shift] + [-] - curi is highlighted I don't know if this a bug or not. – I don't mind about that specific issue. ;-) It just attracted my attention, because i never saw this before... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Icons
Hi MAU, is there a set of icons available which are at least twice is big as the standard icons? Do you mean just toolbar icons or all icons that are used in TB's UI (menu icons, folders, flags, etc.)? If possible both, but if not available, then what there is. They're too small for me, so I have to use the menustructure all the time. ... Sure, it's clean laundry. The cat's sitting on it, isn't he? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Slow shutdown speed
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 09:19 schrieb Robert van der Hulst: And now I have noticed that shutting down TB takes quite long. Is anyone else seeing this too ? Yes, i recognized this coming up again, because i had to wait some minutes to copy the new beta over the existing ones... But i did not test it exactly, there is some Harddrive action at the end, as far as i see. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Camera
Hallo Gunivortus, On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:24:11 +0100GMT (17-12-2008, 9:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GG during the install of the latest MSI I got a TB-window in which was asked to press GG OK or reject for new (web)camera settings. I pressed 'reject' and the the GG installation was completed. GG Strange! Has been mentioned with previous msi installs too. Has nothing to do with TB (I didn't get that message) but with something else installed on your system, if my memory serves me wel it something by Logitec, but I'm not sure about that. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows! The magic of turning a 486 into a Gameboy! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpu86rZpno6c.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Richard, M Is that your selection in View/Themes of TB's main menu? Yes. M And what about settings in Themes and Appearance tabs in your M screen properties, do you have default values/colours selected? The are my customized default colors or theme, not an official MS color selection.But out of curiosity, I tried MS provided Windows XP and Windows Classic Themes with the same result just in different colors and shapes. Well, what can I say? You have seen the PNGs I sent and that's how it works here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plain Text marking word is curious?
Guten Tag The Bat! Beta, if i mark a word in Plain Text Editor and i do a SHIFT-Left there is not one character less than before, but only the first one marked or only the first 3 marked - something like that... If i then do several SHIFT-Right to the End of Word and SHIFT-Left back, everything is fine again... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hello Gunivortus, If possible both, but if not available, then what there is. They're too small for me, so I have to use the menustructure all the time. If you go to Customise and select the different toolbars in the Containers section on the left, what is the setting for each on the lower right corner? Toolbar Icons or Menu Icons? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7 HTML Viewer
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 17:58 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) is available at [-] Some fixes in HTML viewer, please check various html messages and attachments While loading the images, the scrollbar now flipps to the top twice for every image, but the Message stands still and there where it should be. I have to test the viewing thing tomorrow... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[UR] The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 21:22 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available Up + Running -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6 HTML loading caused scrolling back to start
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 18:03 schrieb Jens Franik: The Parent Folders Templates do not affect the Subfolders any more in Common Folders This is fixed again, confirmed fixed. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Icons
Hi MAU, If possible both, but if not available, then what there is. They're too small for me, so I have to use the menustructure all the time. If you go to Customise and select the different toolbars in the Containers section on the left, what is the setting for each on the lower right corner? Toolbar Icons or Menu Icons? It is all menu icons, grey, not changable. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.7 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 17:33 schrieb MAU: In editing plain text messages, the difference in appearance of the icon for the on/off options of Confirm receipt and Reading confirmation are barely distinguishable. Please see attached PNGs. The 3 possible states seem perfectly distinguishable here. Did you change something? I use the Classic Layout without these (gradient?) colors. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons
Hello Gunivortus, If you go to Customise and select the different toolbars in the Containers section on the left, what is the setting for each on the lower right corner? Toolbar Icons or Menu Icons? It is all menu icons, grey, not changable. It's not changeable for menus, but it should be for toolbars. And the setting for toolbars should obviously be Toolbar Icons, which are four times as big as menu ones. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Jens, Please see attached PNGs. The 3 possible states seem perfectly distinguishable here. Did you change something? Not that I am aware of. I use the Classic Layout without these (gradient?) colors. I use XP one and, that I can recall, I never changed anything. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: UNIX mailbox import broken
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 18:53 schrieb Marek Mikus: What's new in 4.1.1.8 since 4.1.1.7: [-] Import from Unix mailboxes didn't work in the recent betas (BETA issue) [-] Import from Unix mailboxes did produce TMP files in the %TEMP% folder I have tried this in 4.0.39.38, this is what log says when importing standard UNIX mailbox file: v4.0.39.38 (BETA) MIKUS/Marek Mikuš 17.12.2008 18:36:13 MBase:24 EConvertError Invalid argument to date encode I can not confirm any problem, i tested this with a big mailbox which i fetched with fetchmail under Cygwin Enviroment. The Date Headers which caused you Problems are written by fetchmail and look like this: From fetchm...@pholus.franik.int Sat Apr 21 13:05:03 CEST 2007 This is my result of Importing a pure UNIX Mailbox (i learned to fetch Mails this way under FreeBSD to view them with mutt -f) --- The Bat! --- 941 message(s) converted --- OK --- -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 21:08 schrieb Richard Newman: M That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. Attached is what mine look like with confirmation on (depressed) and reading request off (flat). I show you my Buttons here: Anlagen: 1) 20081217-Buttons.png (2726 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 attachment: 20081217-Buttons.png Ausgehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - http://www.grisoft.de Version: 8.0.200 / Virendatenbank: 270.9.19/1853 - Ausgabedatum: 17.12.2008 08:31 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 21:47 schrieb MAU: Is that your selection in View/Themes of TB's main menu? Yes: 1) 20081217-Themes.png (5765 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) And what about settings in Themes and Appearance tabs in your screen properties, do you have default values/colours selected? Where is this? Normally i have anything unchanged. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 attachment: 20081217-Themes.png Ausgehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - http://www.grisoft.de Version: 8.0.200 / Virendatenbank: 270.9.19/1853 - Ausgabedatum: 17.12.2008 08:31 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Jens, M That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. Attached is what mine look like with confirmation on (depressed) and reading request off (flat). I show you my Buttons here: That's what you get with the Classic windows them, I've just verified it. Try the Windows XP one and you will see them like I do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Jens, Where is this? Normally i have anything unchanged. Right click on your desktop and select Properties. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 22:04 schrieb MAU: try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. 385 messages imported in 2 seconds. My try has been 941 Mail with a summary of 8568 kB in about 5-10 seconds. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 4:23:49 PM, you wrote: M You have seen the PNGs I sent and that's how it works here. Must be the Spanish version! :-)) -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello NetVicious, Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:27 PM, you wrote: Perhaps the check mark on the on icons should be green or there should be a big X over the icon when the feature of off. Whatever the solution, it should be as readily distinquishable as the adjacent icon for priority. N I vote for it. I vote for it too! -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello MAU, That's what you get with the Classic windows them, I've just verified it. Try the Windows XP one and you will see them like I do. Sorry Jens, I just remembered you are using Win2K. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4118.rar What's new in 4.1.1.8 since 4.1.1.7: [-] Import from Unix mailboxes didn't work in the recent betas (BETA issue) [-] Import from Unix mailboxes did produce TMP files in the %TEMP% folder [-] The Bat! didn't start on Windows NT 4 (Beta issue) Dont rush it. You dont have publish it before Christmas. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 23:07 schrieb MAU: That's what you get with the Classic windows them, I've just verified it. Try the Windows XP one and you will see them like I do. I do not have XP, i have Win2000 and there is no Theme like XP in The_Bat: Anlagen: 1) 20081217-Themes1.png (9976 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 attachment: 20081217-Themes1.png Ausgehende eMail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - http://www.grisoft.de Version: 8.0.200 / Virendatenbank: 270.9.19/1853 - Ausgabedatum: 17.12.2008 08:31 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 23:12 schrieb MAU: That's what you get with the Classic windows them, I've just verified it. Try the Windows XP one and you will see them like I do. Sorry Jens, I just remembered you are using Win2K. I figured out, right now, that it could not work for me :-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
Hello Arjan, I could have said all the above by just saying Up running, but... ... my name is on the Credit Roll and I'm getting my upgrades for free. ;-) Yes, that's true. And that way I save an amout that I can earn in less than one hour. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
Hello Peter, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 10:38:42 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): My name is not on the credit roll. I just bought the upgrade, because the last upgrade that had to be paid for was more than four years ago. I'm not so much interested in the HTML things, but I'm interested in The Bat!'s further development as a superior mail client. That's why I'm still into it. :D Me too! :) -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.7
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 23:26 schrieb Costas Papadopoulos: My name is not on the credit roll. I just bought the upgrade, because the last upgrade that had to be paid for was more than four years ago. I'm not so much interested in the HTML things, but I'm interested in The Bat!'s further development as a superior mail client. That's why I'm still into it. :D Me too! :) That's what i would have sayed, if would have find the right words... Me too! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, Jens Franik wrote: try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. 385 messages imported in 2 seconds. My try has been 941 Mail with a summary of 8568 kB in about 5-10 seconds. OK, lets watch video :-) http://www.thebat.cz/files/import.swf -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Marek, try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. 385 messages imported in 2 seconds. My try has been 941 Mail with a summary of 8568 kB in about 5-10 seconds. OK, lets watch video :-) http://www.thebat.cz/files/import.swf What virus scanner are you using? Are you scanning files when opening them? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 23:28 schrieb Marek Mikus: try more messages, UNIX mailbox I have tried had 240 messages, after 5 minutes, TB had 50 messages imported and I killed the process. 385 messages imported in 2 seconds. My try has been 941 Mail with a summary of 8568 kB in about 5-10 seconds. OK, lets watch video :-) What is the total size of this Import, the Video did not show? Are this big messages? Are there Attachments inside? From where did you get this messages, are they from The_Bat? Or if not, which program wrote them? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 23:31 schrieb MAU: What virus scanner are you using? Are you scanning files when opening them? Me is using AVG, but not the Plugin for The_Bat, but the Universal Personal E-Mail Scanner. And same on the filesystem, i have them be checked on opening. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB
Oh, sure. I just saw that your above quote was created with AK Mail. No ballast such as reasonbable line breaks at quoting or honouring the signature delimiter... Thanks for your great example, I think I'll stay with The Bat! for the time being. A negative reply, pity! No ballast, I think the author means something else..-)) Not the tons of features, I never use.. It is like Word, many features, but most people don't use them.. Hans Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Jens, What virus scanner are you using? Are you scanning files when opening them? Me is using AVG, but not the Plugin for The_Bat, but the Universal Personal E-Mail Scanner. And same on the filesystem, i have them be checked on opening. I use NOD32 and have it configured to only scan files when creating them. If a file was scanned when written on disk, I think it is a waste of resources scanning it every time it is opened or executed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB stops respondning in editor for seconds since 4.1.1.7
Hi Marek, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 1:52:16 PM, you wrote: Hello, this is strange thing, because when I am writing in Microed into header or body, TB stops responding for 3 or 4 seconds very often, You can see this in systray too, icon stops flying. I have discovered this today in 4.1.1.7 for the first time. I have been noticing little pauses for some months when I am editing a message text in MicroEd at times (I seldom use .html, so don't know if I get it there also). I haven't worried about it, thinking it might be my BitDefender Suite, but perhaps, since you mentioned it, it could be something in TB. I have no idea! Perhaps I should turn off BitDefender and see if I ever get those pauses then. Hmmm... I will let you know if those periodic editing pauses continue with BD off. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, Jens Franik wrote: What is the total size of this Import, the Video did not show? 21M Are this big messages? some of them yes Are there Attachments inside? yes From where did you get this messages, are they from The_Bat? as I wrote, I have exported them from The Bat! previously -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello all, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, MAU wrote: What virus scanner are you using? Are you scanning files when opening them? NOD32, but already tried to stop it, nothing changed. really strange :-( BTW -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.1.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [UR] The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Title: Re: [U] The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Hi Jens, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 2:38:25 PM, you wrote: am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 21:22 schrieb Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available Up + Running Ditto. -- Take Care, Bob Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Options Icons
Hi MAU, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 2:53:28 PM, you wrote: [snip] I use the Classic Layout without these (gradient?) colors. I use XP one and, that I can recall, I never changed anything. When I switched from classic windows appearance to XP mode on the desktop, then the buttons being on and off is much clearer in the message composition window's on the bottom tool bar. When depressed, an option button turns a red-orange color and is easy to see. Thanks for the tip, Miguel (MAU)! -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Options Icons
Hi Jens, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 2:58:44 PM, you wrote: am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 21:08 schrieb Richard Newman: M That's strange, I also use the Default Windows theme. Attached is what mine look like with confirmation on (depressed) and reading request off (flat). I show you my Buttons here: Anlagen: 1) 20081217-Buttons.png (2726 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) Those are how my buttons appeared in the Classic Windows mode in Win XP. They change color dramatically when depressed in the Win XP mode set on the desktop. -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.1.1.7
miércoles, 17 dic 2008 at 19:08, it seems you wrote: I, MAU, have VOLUNTARILY taken the time to download, extract and install the above beta version. Also VOLUNTARILY, I am willing to at least use this beta for my normal work and private email transactions, and perhaps doing some specific testing (if I have the time, knowledge and willingness at the moment), being fully aware that, because I'm using a beta, I VOLUNTARILY take the risk of running into communication problems and damaging (or even loosing) my email message base. Because I am aware of the risks of using a beta, and because I'm not totally stupid, I also VOLUNTARILY take the time to back-up with an external tool my The Bat! installation and full message base. As you can see in my signature, I am already using this beta and so far had no problems. You don't signed the document . ;-) -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Options Icons
Hello Bob, Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:39:44 PM, you wrote: BR When I switched from classic windows appearance to XP mode on the BR desktop, then the buttons being on and off is much clearer in the BR message composition window's on the bottom tool bar. When depressed, BR an option button turns a red-orange color and is easy to see. Same here after changing theme to XP. Now to adapt that theme to the colors/background I want. And, I shouldn't have to do that to get the icons to work. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
