Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Bob,

 --- Bob Riley / Sonntag 08.02.2009, 20:13:04
TB and various IMAP Issues


 I enjoy this group immensely.   Thank you all.

And I loved to read your post :)


 Bob Riley in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Les Etats-Unis

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[UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 at 14:14, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

 What's new in 4.1.11.3 since 4.1.11.2:
 [-] If there were an UUE section with a virus, The Bat! did not cure it (BETA 
 issue)

Up + Running

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Sonntag, 8. Februar 2009 at 18:59, MAU wrote:

 I was looking for something else in Registry when I bumped into, as per
 attachment, TB entries.

Not here, but the Entries have something with MAPI Default Handler?
There has been one Version of The Bat which cleaned up in the
Registry?

Anlagen:
   1) screen22.png (5236 Byte, IrfanView PNG File)

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attachment: screen22.png
Ausgehende eMail ist virenfrei.
Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de
Version: 8.0.233 / Virendatenbank: 270.10.19/1941 - Ausgabedatum: 02/07/09 
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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Peter Kaleve
Hi,

 Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 at 14:14, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar
 Up + Running

cool, up + running before any announcement showed up in the list.

TBBETA list is still broken, at least in Germany...

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Peter

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter,

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:09:40 +0100GMT (9-2-2009, 13:09 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

PK TBBETA list is still broken, at least in Germany...

If  it's broken then it should be broken in Germany, that's where it's
hosted.

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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roger,

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:55:37 +0200 GMT (09/02/2009, 11:55 +0700 GMT),
Roger Phillips wrote:

[MAU, replying to Bob Riley:]
M Yes, you are just a little older than me but, admit it, you look /much/
M older than me ;-)

RP Where  do  you see Bob's photo?  He does not appear in my setup, and I have
RP just downloaded the latest 'Rogues' file.

Same here.

RP When  it comes to the age stakes I regret to say that unfortunately I think
RP both of you are quite a long way behind me!  :(

I'm a mere baby compared to you guys, so sorry for jumping in. But
this last paragraph brings us to Mary, of course:

Mary, are you still here?

Or even there? (That's TBOT, to which I'm f'upping.)

-- 

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Alain,

 I was looking for something else in Registry when I bumped into, as per 
 attachment, TB entries. I have no idea how and when they got in and why 
 they were not removed by latest installation.

 Same here, not exactly the same keys but exactly the names I use to test
 some beta (2 or more exe in the same directory) ... ;)

You are darn right! How come I didn't think of it? I guess I'm getting 
old ;-(

Yes, although I haven't done so for some time, during beta cycles I used
to keep several exe files (renamed to include version) in the same
directory so it would be easy to swap between them.

But then, having different versions and just executing them is not 
enough to get the registry entries. I tried last night with version 
4.1.5 (thebat415.exe) and no new key was added to registry.

But Jens Franik gave me the clue when today in his
mid:286057380.20090209125...@gmx.de he wrote:

 Not here, but the Entries have something with MAPI Default Handler?

Yes, it certainly has to do with MAPI handler. I again executed
thebat415.exe and in Options/Preferences/Applications I clicked on the
Install The Bat! as the Simple MAPI request handler button and... no,
not 'voila!' yet. Hmmm! So I went and exported a message as a *.msg 
file, closed TB, and in Explorer I double clicked on *.msg file. TB 
started to open and yes, this time Voila! See attached PNG.

I think this explains why some of you have no entry at all, or just the 
thebat.exe one or several entries.

Thanks for the pointers :)

BTW, TB still freezes when trying to open it by double clicking on a 
.msg or .eml file.

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Alain,

 How could the installer know that ?

I forgot to answer to this question. No, now that I know why the entries
got in there, I don't think there is a way the installer can know about
those 'gosht' entries in the registry.

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello mse,

 Interesting...I've got only one entry for thebat.exe.

See my mid:1264982067.20090209132...@rancho-k.com in reply to Alain de 
Gevigney.

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof,

 Odd.
 I  don't  even  have the thebat.exe entry that you've kept. Might be a
 difference between Vista an XP...

See my mid:1264982067.20090209132...@rancho-k.com in reply to Alain de 
Gevigney.

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Jens,

 Not here, but the Entries have something with MAPI Default Handler?

Yes, that was partially it. 

See my mid:1264982067.20090209132...@rancho-k.com in reply to Alain de
Gevigney.

 There has been one Version of The Bat which cleaned up in the
 Registry?

No, I don't think so. 

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Mackley
I think it's not Germany... Never received the anouncement message
here in Italy, using Gmail.com

:-/

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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Roger,

 ... at my advanced age (even a little older than MAU!).

M Yes, you are just a little older than me but, admit it, you look /much/ 
M older than me ;-)

 Where  do  you see Bob's photo?  He does not appear in my setup, and I have
 just downloaded the latest 'Rogues' file.

I haven't seen his photo, but I am sure he looks much older than I do 
;-)

 When  it comes to the age stakes I regret to say that unfortunately I think
 both of you are quite a long way behind me!  :(

Well, at least you've made it to whatever age you have, and who knows if 
Bob and I will :)

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Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Jens,

 Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 at 14:14, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

 What's new in 4.1.11.3 since 4.1.11.2:
 [-] If there were an UUE section with a virus, The Bat! did not cure it 
 (BETA issue)


Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:09, Peter Kaleve wrote:

 cool, up + running before any announcement showed up in the list.

I got the Announce by Personal Mail on 04.02.09.

 TBBETA list is still broken, at least in Germany...

No it is not broken unless you can delare, what is not working.

That you don't get old Mails, is not a reason for broken.

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Alain de Gevigney
Hello Roelof,

 On  Mon, 9 Feb 2009 at 13:26, you wrote:

 Hallo Peter,

 On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:09:40 +0100GMT (9-2-2009, 13:09 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

PK TBBETA list is still broken, at least in Germany...

 If  it's broken then it should be broken in Germany, that's where it's
 hosted.

A dns spread/update problem ?

if I try to send a message to the list through
neuf-infra-smtp-out-sp604006av.neufgp.fr [10.110.56.118]
I receive this kind of reply :
,- [  ]
| Final-recipient: rfc822; tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com 
| Action: failed
| Status: 5.1.1
| Diagnostic-Code: smtp;  550
`-
but through ovh.net [213.251.189.202], no problem ...

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Mackley
Ah, I've got it: private beta testing ! :-)

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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello MAU,

Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:41:56 PM, you wrote:

 Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

Neither did I. That happened to other people also.

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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Monday, February 9, 2009, George M. Menegakis wrote:

 Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

 Neither did I. That happened to other people also.

nor do I.

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Re: Didn't get the announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear George,

@9-Feb-2009, 15:17 +0200 (09-Feb 13:17 here) George M. Menegakis [GM]
in mid:1572248141.20090209151...@gmail.com said to MAU:

 Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

GM Neither did I. That happened to other people also.

Heck, not even *I* got Maxim's announcement!

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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:41:56 +0100 GMT (09/02/2009, 19:41 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 at 14:14, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

 What's new in 4.1.11.3 since 4.1.11.2:
 [-] If there were an UUE section with a virus, The Bat! did not cure it 
 (BETA issue)


M Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

Apparently, it wasn't sent to the list but Jens received it by PM.
Dunno why. Blame Mantris. ;-)

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Re: Didn't get the announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Peter Kaleve
Hi Marck,

 Heck, not even *I* got Maxim's announcement!

read this:

Jens Franik je...@gmx.de:
I got the Announce by Personal Mail on 04.02.09.

no mailing *list* anymore?

but to be serious, there is still a distribution
prob with this list. Looks like no one is able
to analyze what's going wrong here, even not
*you*, Marck :-)


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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 Apparently, it wasn't sent to the list but Jens received it by PM.
 Dunno why. Blame Mantris. ;-)

Or a folder template? ;-)

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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas,

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:56:57 +0700GMT (9-2-2009, 13:56 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

TF Apparently, it wasn't sent to the list but Jens received it by PM.
TF Dunno why. Blame Mantris. ;-)

Maxim  mailed  that he couldn't send to the list and at that time Jens
was busy with the same problem, so I guess Jens got a message that Max
couldn't send as an example...

However, Marek posted a link to 4.1.11.3 in 
mid:1434328859.20090206204...@ipex.cz

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:26, Roelof Otten wrote:

PK TBBETA list is still broken, at least in Germany...

 If  it's broken then it should be broken in Germany, that's where it's
 hosted.

Wonderful, thats absolutely wonderful! *rotflol*

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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:18, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 [MAU, replying to Bob Riley:]

RP Where  do  you see Bob's photo?  He does not appear in my setup, and I have
RP just downloaded the latest 'Rogues' file.

 Same here.

Same here, althoug i have some extra Fotos of Ritlabs (because i like
to see the People talking too).

I have Bob Morris, but not Bob Riley.

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Re: Old registry entries

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:36, MAU wrote:

 There has been one Version of The Bat which cleaned up in the
 Registry?

 No, I don't think so. 

It's been that we had The_Bat twice in the Software/Uninstall List.
Maybe i did understand it wrong, but i remember (max?) wrote, that
some (not specified) old Registry Entries should be cleaned up in
one of the next Installs.

Maybe The_Bat should provide a Regstry clean File?

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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:41, MAU wrote:

 Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

I declared, that it came to me by a personal Mail, in which he
provided Messages, which did not make it to the list, because of the
DNS Error which we had recently.

Maybe he will resend this Message again?

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 13:48, Alain de Gevigney wrote:

 A dns spread/update problem ?

Yes, i don't know why, but ns1.dutaint.com which is responsible for
dutaint.com and should give back the authoritative NS for
tbbeta.dutaint.com is not answering to the Query, though he tells,
that he (himself) is authoritative for this answer:

,- [  ]
| j...@debian:~$ dig @ns1.dutaint.com tbbeta.dutaint.com ANY
| 
| ;  DiG 9.3.4-P1.1  @ns1.dutaint.com tbbeta.dutaint.com ANY
| ; (1 server found)
| ;; global options:  printcmd
| ;; Got answer:
| ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 3651
| ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
| 
| ;; QUESTION SECTION:
| ;tbbeta.dutaint.com.IN  ANY
| 
| ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
| dutaint.com.262800  IN  SOA ns1.dutaint.com. 
syafril.dutaint.co.id. 2008110604 21600 3600 432000 86400
| 
| ;; Query time: 745 msec
| ;; SERVER: 203.130.233.3#53(203.130.233.3)
| ;; WHEN: Mon Feb  9 15:38:51 2009
| ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 108
`-

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Mackley
 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

Up  running here

-- 

Mackley


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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread mse
Hello Jens,

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

 What's new in 4.1.11.3 since 4.1.11.2:
 [-] If there were an UUE section with a virus, The Bat! did not cure it 
 (BETA issue)

Is it intended or coincidence that the entry in the change log you're quoting is
the same as in change log of 4.1.11.2?

-- 
Best regards,
mse

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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, February 9, 2009, 15:39:49, Jens Franik wrote:

 Yes, i don't know why, but ns1.dutaint.com which is responsible for
 dutaint.com and should give back the authoritative NS for
 tbbeta.dutaint.com is not answering to the Query, though he tells,
 that he (himself) is authoritative for this answer:

Isn't the mail server thebat.dutaint.com?

,-
| jer...@deepthought ~ $ dig any thebat.dutaint.com @ns1.dutaint.com
| 
| ;  DiG 9.4.2-P2  any thebat.dutaint.com @ns1.dutaint.com
| ;; global options:  printcmd
| ;; Got answer:
| ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29658
| ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
| 
| ;; QUESTION SECTION:
| ;thebat.dutaint.com.IN  ANY
| 
| ;; ANSWER SECTION:
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  A   85.10.226.112
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns2.dutaint.com.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  SOA ns0.0x539.de. 
postmaster.0x539.de. 2009020401 10800 3600 604800 10800
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  MX  5 mx0.0x539.de.
| 
| ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
| ns2.dutaint.com.86400   IN  A   203.130.233.13
| mx0.0x539.de.   2654IN  A   78.46.103.116
| 
| ;; Query time: 718 msec
| ;; SERVER: 203.130.233.3#53(203.130.233.3)
| ;; WHEN: Mon Feb  9 16:08:14 2009
| ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 195
`-

-- 
 Jernej Simončič  http://eternallybored.org/ 

The only people making money these days are the ones who sell computer paper.
   -- Wain's Conclusion



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Re: Didn't get the announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Meathrel
Hi MAU,

Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:41:56 PM, you wrote:
 Hmmm! I never got Maxim's announcement.

Ditto :)

-- 
Warmest regards,

Paul
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Bob Riley

Hi Roger,

On 2/8/2009 9:55 PM, you wrote:


Where  do  you see Bob's photo?  He does not appear in my setup, and I have
just downloaded the latest 'Rogues' file.


I could post my photo somewhere in the mailing list members home, if I 
knew there was such a place.  I would risk the laughter (or envy) from 
the list members, of course.


I sent my photo to MAU by private post (to keep off the mailing list 
with too much non-beta stuff).  However, he has not returned the favor, 
so I must reluctantly conclude that he has more wrinkles, nose and ear 
hair than I do.  With his uneasy German-Spanish mix, he must also have 
mental complications as well!


When  it comes to the age stakes I regret to say that unfortunately I think
both of you are quite a long way behind me!  :(


I am 66.  Are you saying that you fought in the Spanish Civil War, 
1935-38 or so?


--
Bob Riley in New Mexico, USA
--
Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me.  This is our 
function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to 
accept and to share.



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Re: Didn't get the announcement (WAS: Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3)

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 15:06, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Maxim  mailed  that he couldn't send to the list and at that time Jens
 was busy with the same problem, so I guess Jens got a message that Max
 couldn't send as an example...

100% right

I found it by surprise, as i later opened the includes again.

Don't know why it has been resend to the List, but i can not read
anything from Ritlabs, maybe they are still spaced out from this List?


-- 
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Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
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The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 
1.1.91.0
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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 16:13, mse wrote:

 The Bat! 4.1.11.3 is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41113.rar

 What's new in 4.1.11.3 since 4.1.11.2:
 [-] If there were an UUE section with a virus, The Bat! did not cure it 
 (BETA issue)

 Is it intended or coincidence that the entry in the change log you're quoting 
 is
 the same as in change log of 4.1.11.2?

I guess, there has been made another fix to the same problem.

You are right, it is exactly the same sequence of words in the
Changelog than in the Last line of the Changelog of 4.1.11.2 from
4.1.11

-- 
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 
1.1.91.0
Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2
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7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders



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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3 SMTP to List failed from neufgp.fr

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 16:10, Jernej Simončič wrote:

 Isn't the mail server thebat.dutaint.com?

Uff, yes, my fault of course:

,- [ Senders Domain ]
| j...@debian:~$ dig @hazzi.hittite.isp.9tel.net thebat.dutaint.com ANY +noall 
+answer
| thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  MX  5 mx0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  SOA ns0.0x539.de. 
postmaster.0x539.de. 2009020401 10800 3600 604800 10800
| thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  NS  ns0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  NS  ns2.dutaint.com.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  A   85.10.226.112
`-

,- [ Destinatinon DNS1 ]
| j...@debian:~$ dig @ns0.0x539.de thebat.dutaint.com ANY +noall +answer
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  MX  5 mx0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  SOA ns0.0x539.de. 
postmaster.0x539.de. 2009020401 10800 3600 604800 10800
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns2.dutaint.com.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  A   85.10.226.112
`-

,- [ Destination DNS2 ]
| j...@debian:~$ dig @ns2.dutaint.com thebat.dutaint.com ANY +noall +answer
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  MX  5 mx0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  SOA ns0.0x539.de. 
postmaster.0x539.de. 2009020401 10800 3600 604800 10800
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns0.0x539.de.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  NS  ns2.dutaint.com.
| thebat.dutaint.com. 10800   IN  A   85.10.226.112
`-

,- [ Resolve of A Record ]
| j...@debian:~$ dig -x 85.10.226.112 ANY +noall +answer
| 112.226.10.85.in-addr.arpa. 86389 INPTR 
85-10-226-112.clients.your-server.de.
| j...@debian:~$ dig 85-10-226-112.clients.your-server.de ANY +noall +answer
| 85-10-226-112.clients.your-server.de. 86400 IN A 85.10.226.112
`-

So this looks all suitably to have the Mail sent OK.

Now, it is important, from who this Error comes - is it from the
Senders or from the Destinatinon Server?

,- [  ]
| SMTP Error - 550
| 
| Requested Not Action: mailbox unavailable or is not local.
|
| This message indicates that the recipient specified in the RCPT
| command is not locally hosted on the server and relaying options
| prevent the message being forwarded to the recipient. To resolve this
| you should ensure that an address map has been associated with the
| desired mailbox. If you receive this message then you should use the
| MMC to ensure that this address has been assigned to a mailbox. This
| can be done in the MMC by viewing the properties of the Mailbox.
`-

-- 
With kind Regards
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 
1.1.91.0
Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 17:58, Bob Riley wrote:

 I sent my photo to MAU by private post However, he has not returned
 the favor, so I must reluctantly conclude that he has more wrinkles

http://pcwize.com/thebat/

You can include most of the Peoples Pictures into your Bat with ease,
only some photos (for example mine) are not public there (in my case
it does still not work to upload it there, even praying did not help).

-- 
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Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Bob Riley

Hi Everyone,

On 2/9/2009 11:14 AM, Jens Franik wrote:


http://pcwize.com/thebat/

You can include most of the Peoples Pictures into your Bat with ease,
only some photos (for example mine) are not public there (in my case
it does still not work to upload it there, even praying did not help).

I tried to create an account twice - no luck.  The submit command to 
create a new account just left me hanging indefinitely each time.


However, I did look at the Rogue's gallery (as a visitor), and I was 
correct.  MAU definitely looks much older than I do.  He has more 
wrinkles and a white beard to boot.  On top of that, his German-Spanish 
heritage shows - he looks like a combination of Tomas de Torquemada and 
Josef Goebbels!


Ask him about how old I look - I did send my photo to him via private post.

Thank you, Jens, for sending me that link - even if I couldn't 
successfully set up an account.  :(


--
Bob Riley in New Mexico, USA
--
Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me.  This is our 
function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to 
accept and to share.



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[OT] Bob's rogue (was: Re: TB and various IMAP Issues)

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Bob,

 I tried to create an account twice - no luck.  The submit command to 
 create a new account just left me hanging indefinitely each time.

Well, somehow you got your picture in. I downloaded the latest 
rogues.zip and I can see you in the headers now. See attached PNG.

 MAU definitely looks much older than I do.

The photo in the gallery is old, not me.

 On top of that, his German-Spanish heritage shows...

Swiss-Spanish. But who cares! After all, if we look far enough into our 
family trees we all come from the same apes, don't we?

 I did send my photo to him via private post.

Your PM was peacefully sitting in my Spam folder.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.11.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
attachment: Bobinheader.png
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 19:41, Bob Riley wrote:

 I tried to create an account twice - no luck.  The submit command to
 create a new account just left me hanging indefinitely each time.

Exactly, and after that nobody else can login until Admins do reset.

You dont need an account, see the Instructions, how to migrate it in
the Bat and you will see a lot of People on the right side of the
Headersfield.

My Photo you see in my signature, because i can not upload it.

-- 
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Jens Franik
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Re: [OT] Bob's rogue (was: Re: TB and various IMAP Issues)

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 20:35, MAU wrote:

 Well, somehow you got your picture in. I downloaded the latest
 rogues.zip and I can see you in the headers now. See attached PNG.

You are kidding!
You did add him to your adressbook, thats why he shows up to _YOU_

He not even has a X-Rogue Header set...

-- 
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Jens Franik
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Re: [OT] Bob's rogue (was: Re: TB and various IMAP Issues)

2009-02-09 Thread MAU
Hello Jens,

 You are kidding!

Who, me? How could I be kidding if, according to Bob, I'm half German ;-)

-- 
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Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Bob Riley« · 2009-02-09 · 19:41 h (CET)]

Moin, Bob!

 I tried to create an account twice - no luck. The submit command
 to create a new account just left me hanging indefinitely each time.

Same here for two years or so, too! :-/

Cheers!
VA

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Re: [OT] Bob's rogue (was: Re: TB and various IMAP Issues)

2009-02-09 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2009-02-09 · 20:49 h (CET)]

Moin, MAU!

 You are kidding!

 Who, me? How could I be kidding if, according to Bob, I'm half
 German ;-)

LOL – YMMD!

I love abbreviations or acronyms! ;-)

Cheers!
VA

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Re: [OT] Bob's rogue (was: Re: TB and various IMAP Issues)

2009-02-09 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2009-02-09 · 20:35 h (CET)]

Moin, MAU!

 MAU definitely looks much older than I do.

 The photo in the gallery is old, not me.

The older a photo is, the younger is the person on the photo [1]! ;-)

 On top of that, his German-Spanish heritage shows...

 Swiss-Spanish. But who cares!

Swiss or German? That's indeed a difference! :-)

 After all, if we look far enough into our family trees we all come
 from the same apes, don't we?

No, not me! ;-)

Cheers!
VA

[1] In comparison to today.

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Re: TB and various IMAP Issues

2009-02-09 Thread Jens Franik

Montag, 9. Februar 2009 at 20:49, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

 I tried to create an account twice - no luck. The submit command
 to create a new account just left me hanging indefinitely each time.

 Same here for two years or so, too! :-/

I always thought i was dumb so i couln't handle it, but now i should
think about to rewrite the whole thing in Perl - this will work.

And after that, we have a Mailbased Robot for it - isn't that what a
The_Bat Application should be?

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Jens Franik
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The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 
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Re: [UR] 4.1.11.3 SMTP to List failed from neufgp.fr

2009-02-09 Thread Alain de Gevigney
Hello Jens,

 On  Mon, 9 Feb 2009 at 18:29 you wrote:

 ,- [ Senders Domain ]
 | j...@debian:~$ dig @hazzi.hittite.isp.9tel.net thebat.dutaint.com ANY 
 +noall +answer
 | thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  MX  5 mx0.0x539.de.
 | thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  SOA ns0.0x539.de.
 postmaster.0x539.de. 2009020401 10800 3600 604800 10800
 | thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  NS  ns0.0x539.de.
 | thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  NS  ns2.dutaint.com.
 | thebat.dutaint.com. 2932IN  A   85.10.226.112
 `-

 So this looks all suitably to have the Mail sent OK.

You're right, I retest it through smtp.neuf.fr
it should be one of it's mx server that isn't up to date
(neuf-infra-smtp-in-sp6040[08/09/10/13/14]av.neufgp.fr)

Go ...

-- 
Regards, Alain
:aggy:
:flag-france:


  
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