Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi,

In 5.1.2 version can't open news web pages  by clicking left button on
message  description.  It  was working in previous versions for over 1
year (just checked a message from 6 month ago).

While  pressing a button on the message TB! hangs for about 20-30s and
after that nothing happens.



Had as well a problem to copy a link so I can paste it in the browser.
That  part  is random ; mostly works but couple of times I had to open
HTML message in the browser to see the news.

While  trying  to copy you can select copy shortcut but sometimes it's
not copied.

Newsletter is from: http://www.china.org.cn/

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CC addresses missing in preview window (v.5.1.2)

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi,

I   have  couple  messages  where e-mail was send to some CCC (message
I have in mind at the moment had 3 CC) but when displayed in a preview
window only first one is visible. If message is opened by double click
all  are  visible  ;  same  when  reply  to - just preview part is not
working (and that's a bit inconvenience to check CC you need to open a
message).

Issue exist for some of the e-mails ; for some all is good.
E-mails  affected were properly displayed in previous version 5.9.xx -
just  checked  messages  2 years back and now there is always only one
person in CC.

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Re: CC addresses missing in preview window (v.5.1.2)

2012-04-27 Thread Krzysztof Kudłacik

 I   have  couple  messages  where e-mail was send to some CCC (message
 I have in mind at the moment had 3 CC) but when displayed in a preview
 window only first one is visible. If message is opened by double click
 all  are  visible  ;

not  confirmed  here (imap on exchange) - 3 or more recipients in CC field
are visible in both cases

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Re: CC addresses missing in preview window (v.5.1.2)

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Krzysztof,


 I   have  couple  messages  where e-mail was send to some CCC (message
 I have in mind at the moment had 3 CC) but when displayed in a preview
 window only first one is visible. If message is opened by double click
 all  are  visible  ;

 not  confirmed  here (imap on exchange) - 3 or more recipients in CC field
 are visible in both cases

Link  to  screen  shots showing on the same machine different behavior
for different e-mails: http://mbf.cc/OHyAM (MailBigFile).

What's   interesting  I'm 100% positive it was working properly before
(can  check it in 3-4 days after I'm back in Shanghai). Anyway, CC are
displayed  on  the  messages  tree  and  after message is opened ; and
missing  on  a message preview (but not for all messages but only some
of them).

Link will be active up to MAY 11th.

Forgot to mention that all my accounts are POP3.

Sensitive data were covered due to NDA ; sorry about that.

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Re: space shuttle Discovery's final flight

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Steven,

Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:22:13 PM, you wrote:

BR I watched these videos in tears, which some of you will understand.

SPV I felt much the same when I visited her in the VAB
SPV about a week before she left...

SPV http://www.svalli.com/files/Discovery120406.jpg

You also gotta love the aluminum van on the right side of the
picture... that's a model from the 1970s... what did they cal them?


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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo RS,

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:21:59 +0800GMT (27-4-2012, 9:21 , where I
live), you wrote:

R In 5.1.2 version can't open news web pages  by clicking left button on
R message  description.  It  was working in previous versions for over 1
R year (just checked a message from 6 month ago).

How do I reproduce your problem? Over here I can click on a URL and it
opens just fine.

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Raymund,

Saturday, April 21, 2012, 3:14:44 PM, you wrote:

   If you have suggestions on the full list of categories, please let us know.

RT First I would like to see sub categories so that it is easier for
RT development to see which areas are problematic.

RT With that I suggest something like the following:

RT - Mail Management  General
RT - Mail Management  Filters
RT - Mail Management  Virtual Folders
RT - Mail Management  Inbox Analyzer

RT - IMAP
RT - POP3

I think that IMAP and POP3 should be categories, and the Mail
Management items should be subcategories under each. Filters under
IMAP may be a different animal from filters under POP.

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello RS,

Monday, April 23, 2012, 9:47:12 PM, you wrote:

   We  have  lost  the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that 
 and
   would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please 
 visit
   the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you.

RF Created a new login but all is empty...

Same here, and that is as expected. No bugs have been reported into
the new database yet, as Maxim requested.

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Joerg,

Saturday, April 21, 2012, 6:24:02 AM, you wrote:

JS Okay, so please update also to the latest version of Mantis 1.2.10 from
JS April 1st, 2012. Version 1.2.8 has some serious security issues.

A bug in a bug-tracking software. Sound ironic but does make sense.

But, pray tell, what security issues are you talking about? Somebody
might copy a reported bug without proper authorization?

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Re: [5.1.0.4] Still has timezone offset problem

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Tony,

Monday, April 23, 2012, 10:00:31 PM, you wrote:

TH Hello Maxim,

TH :-(

I was almost ready to download it. Show stopper.

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Re: SOT on Beta List

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

Saturday, April 21, 2012, 11:37:41 PM, you wrote:

 Sure. The only problem is you need to be reading e-mail on 2 different
 computers to really do any testing.

M Ha, ha! You pointed me to the perfect excuse, I only have one computer ;-)

You don't have one of those handheld computers they used to call PDAs
and that are now known as smart phones?

Well, my iPhone does IMAP and my laptop and desktop do POP. That's
because I'm a POPist like you, but I only want the headers on the
handheld device and only download the full message if required. This
is not only much faster, but it is also much cheaper when considering
international data roaming charges.

That said, I heard the K-Mail offers an app for Android phones. Where
is TheBat! for iPhone or Android?

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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Raymund,

 Hi RS,

 In 5.1.2 version can't open news web pages  by clicking left button on
 message  description.  It  was working in previous versions for over 1
 year (just checked a message from 6 month ago).

 Did you use 'system viewer' or the internal one?

Never checked it before (worked before right after TB! was installed).

In  Preferences  TB! was set as 'Use system HTML viewer (BETA)' (B).
After  switch  to 'Use The Bat HTML Viewer' (A) it works now and Opera
is up with a new page opened :)

However,  there is something strange behavior:
-  if A is selected and link opens properly I can switch to B and it's
opening properly as well ;
-  after  I  switch to a new message with B still selected (just a sec
ago links were opening properly) TB! freeze for a few seconds again,
- if switch to A without changing message ; links are not opening,
- of switch to A and switch to a new message links are opening.

Looks   like   that   switching  A-B  or  B-A  result  is  taken  into
consideration passed only after there is a switch to a new message and
current message is not reprocessed for new HTML conditions.

Thanks for a tip :)
Set it up to A (Use The Bat HTML Viewer) and it works now.

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Inbox Analyzer

2012-04-27 Thread Ethan J Mings
Friday, April 27, 2012


Just a follow up.

I've been trying to test out this feature and finally gave up.

In a nutshell, it creates way too may folders which then creates a long list of 
files
to open.

I  think  the  analyzer needs some more thinking and controls in order to make 
better
use of the filter capability.

Jerry


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Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-27 Thread Rick
 Hi list,

 after a long struggle we managed to get everything imported.

 Anyone interested in a program that imports all *.eml in a folder tree
 into the very same folder tree in TB! with only one additional manual
 step? Just let me know.

I think there would be a LOT of use for such a program!!!

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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Raymund,

RS Never checked it before (worked before right after TB! was installed).

RA Well,  that is a surprise (or did you mean last time you installed
RA TB! from scratch?).

If  you  mean uninstall TB! according to Ritlab notes and installing a
new one I would say YES :)

It  was  a first time it didn't work ; so before it was installed on a
clean system and never had any issue that links were not opening.

RS However,  there is something strange behavior:
RS -  if A is selected and link opens properly I can switch to B and
RS it's opening properly as well ;

RA Let me guess Opera was still open?
Yes, why should I close it ; tons of pages are opened :)
Will try during next reset if it has any influence on behavior.

RS Set it up to A (Use The Bat HTML Viewer) and it works now.

RA Good. I wonder anyway why the 'system viewer' is the default now.
RA There  were  some  complaints about the internal viewer but not so
RA many that I would vote for a change of the default.
No  idea  ; just was surprised that something that worked just stopped
working.  Anyway,  if  it's  marked  as  BETA  it should not be set as
default - just my opinion.

Thanks again for a tip :)

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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Roelof,

 Hallo RS,

 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:21:59 +0800GMT (27-4-2012, 9:21 , where I
 live), you wrote:

R In 5.1.2 version can't open news web pages  by clicking left button on
R message  description.  It  was working in previous versions for over 1
R year (just checked a message from 6 month ago).

RO How  do  I  reproduce your problem? Over here I can click on a URL
RO and it opens just fine.

Yep, I just clicked on the link and nothing was happening.

Works  fine  now after switched to TB! viewer from System Viewer (that
for  some  reason had set as a default one after TB! was installed and
TBK was imported).

More about it in my other reply :)

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Thomas,

   We  have  lost  the mantis bugtracker database. We are sorry about that 
 and
   would like to apologize for your efforts being lost. Could you please 
 visit
   the www.ritlabs.com/bt/ URL again and create new logins for you.

RF Created a new login but all is empty...

TH Same  here,  and  that  is as expected. No bugs have been reported
TH into the new database yet, as Maxim requested.

Thanks, didn't know about it.


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Re: [5.1.0.4] Still has timezone offset problem

2012-04-27 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, April 27, 2012, 10:07:20 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
 
TH :-(

 I was almost ready to download it. Show stopper. 

Only  if  you suffer from this problem. To date Tony, and perhaps MAU 
are the only victims of which I am aware. 
  
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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Raymund,

RS If   you   mean  uninstall  TB!  according  to  Ritlab  notes and
RS installing a new one I would say YES :)

RA Uh, they have that in the notes? I never followed that :-)

You  need to uninstall it through Modify and than Uninstall not direct
uninstall.  However,  even  if  you  select  that  database  is  to be
uninstalled as well it stays on the HDD after TB! claims that it's all
over  (in  my  case it was over 4GB just sitting in a folder and I was
surprised after I found it still there). Same is with lots of registry
entries that are not removed during uninstall.

I  reported  it  as  a  bug  long time ago. As per Ritlab's reply they
prefer  to  remove  less  than  too  much.  I  do  not agree with such
approach, if user selects uninstall he expects all of it to be removed
by uninstaller instead being forced to clean it up manually (data from
HDD and TB!'s entries in registry). But it's just my opinion.

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Re: space shuttle Discovery's final flight

2012-04-27 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


SPV http://www.svalli.com/files/Discovery120406.jpg

TF You also gotta love the aluminum van on the right side of the
TF picture... that's a model from the 1970s... what did they cal them?

My thoughts exactly. To think that this baby has been in use since the 
days of Mercury...

Astrovan?


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Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-27 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,


R I think there would be a LOT of use for such a program!!!

Concur!


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Outlook to TB -- IMAP to POP

2012-04-27 Thread Eddie
Dear all,

That was a big task and ended happily :)
Let me tell you what I wanted/needed to achieve and how it was done. I
am sure this will be useful for others who are looking for the same to
be achieved. Sorry if this a bit lengthy.

-- Outlook to TB! --
That was the main goal we wanted to fulfill. The client had an initial
wish that could not be solved with Outlook. After installing TB! I
only configured it as IMAP as the POP mail base was not yet
transferred to TB!.

Step One was to convert the PSD file into a more common file format
where  all,  including Arabic Characters and Attachments, are properly
converted.  The  first  progi I tried was Outlook Export Wizard. The
result  was  not very promising and my AVIRA always complained the EXE
being  a  Troyan.  Then I tried Aid4Mails. First I wanted to locally
convert  and  store the eMails. But that I kind of was unsuccessful. I
must  mention that the user had 1'200 Folders and 13'000 eMails in the
3,5  GB  PSD file. So I had to take care that the folder structure was
maintained  and  all  eMails  would  go  into  them.  When  the  local
conversion  failed  I  tried  as a last step the IMAP upload. Prior to
that  there  was a suggestion on the TB!beta list to do so. The upload
was successful but it took me 30 hr for that task.

Now  I  had  on  gMail  server the full Folder Structure including all
eMails  in  them.  A request by the user was that he wanted all eMails
locally  stored  (POP)  as  he  had  it  with  Outlook.  Further he is
constantly  working  on  2-3 different computers. In the past we faced
the  problem  that he maintained 3 different eMail bases and had great
difficulties   finding  his  eMails.  Based  on  that  experience  and
requirements I decided to setup his main computer as POP and all other
as IMAP.

Because of that I now was in need to be able in downloading all eMails
from  gMail  server  to  the local HD and preserving folder structure.
With  your  help  I  found  IMAPsize.  That's a cool little app that
access  your eMail server and makes a copy as is to your local HD. BTW
- 5 GB took me about 16 hr. This was an easy step to go for.

The last mile proved to be the most challenging. With the help of
IMAPsize all eMails where in each folder stored as .EML file. Now how
to get those converted into TB! TBB/TBN files? After longer searching
and discussing it was Raymund from this list who kindly helped me in
writing a little program - IMAPsize2TB! (nice would be eml2TB!) -
that could do exactly this. We needed a bit time to adjust but at the
end  of  the day it was ready to be used. So I was set to run the life
task and configure my clients TB!.

Today I finished the task. I haven't lost any eMail.

A  note on POP vs IMAP. I know we could discuss ages on If and Yes POP
should  be used vs IMAP or If you use IMAP if it makes sense using POP
to.  Very  personally  I  like to have my eMails locally stored as you
never know of once day you may not have Internet and you still want to
search  and  prepare  eMails.  Most of all it was the wish of the user
that  he  wants  (like  under  Outlook) to have all his eMails locally
stored. But on the other hand, we all wanted to avoid the mess of some
years before in maintaining different eMail bases.

Thanks  to  all  of  you  and thanks Raymund for eml2TB :) for all the
support in this project.


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Re: Outlook to TB -- IMAP to POP

2012-04-27 Thread Vilius Šumskas

Eddie 50minco...@gmail.com rašė:


Dear all,

That was a big task and ended happily :)
Let me tell you what I wanted/needed to achieve and how it was done. I
am sure this will be useful for others who are looking for the same to
be achieved. Sorry if this a bit lengthy.

-- Outlook to TB! --
That was the main goal we wanted to fulfill. The client had an initial
wish that could not be solved with Outlook. After installing TB! I
only configured it as IMAP as the POP mail base was not yet
transferred to TB!.

Step One was to convert the PSD file into a more common file format
where  all,  including Arabic Characters and Attachments, are properly
converted.  The  first  progi I tried was Outlook Export Wizard. The
result  was  not very promising and my AVIRA always complained the EXE
being  a  Troyan.  Then I tried Aid4Mails. First I wanted to locally
convert  and  store the eMails. But that I kind of was unsuccessful. I
must  mention that the user had 1'200 Folders and 13'000 eMails in the
3,5  GB  PSD file. So I had to take care that the folder structure was
maintained  and  all  eMails  would  go  into  them.  When  the  local
conversion  failed  I  tried  as a last step the IMAP upload. Prior to
that  there  was a suggestion on the TB!beta list to do so. The upload
was successful but it took me 30 hr for that task.

Now  I  had  on  gMail  server the full Folder Structure including all
eMails  in  them.  A request by the user was that he wanted all eMails
locally  stored  (POP)  as  he  had  it  with  Outlook.  Further he is
constantly  working  on  2-3 different computers. In the past we faced
the  problem  that he maintained 3 different eMail bases and had great
difficulties   finding  his  eMails.  Based  on  that  experience  and
requirements I decided to setup his main computer as POP and all other
as IMAP.

Because of that I now was in need to be able in downloading all eMails
from  gMail  server  to  the local HD and preserving folder structure.
With  your  help  I  found  IMAPsize.  That's a cool little app that
access  your eMail server and makes a copy as is to your local HD. BTW
- 5 GB took me about 16 hr. This was an easy step to go for.

The last mile proved to be the most challenging. With the help of
IMAPsize all eMails where in each folder stored as .EML file. Now how
to get those converted into TB! TBB/TBN files? After longer searching
and discussing it was Raymund from this list who kindly helped me in
writing a little program - IMAPsize2TB! (nice would be eml2TB!) -
that could do exactly this. We needed a bit time to adjust but at the
end  of  the day it was ready to be used. So I was set to run the life
task and configure my clients TB!.

Today I finished the task. I haven't lost any eMail.

A  note on POP vs IMAP. I know we could discuss ages on If and Yes POP
should  be used vs IMAP or If you use IMAP if it makes sense using POP
to.  Very  personally  I  like to have my eMails locally stored as you
never know of once day you may not have Internet and you still want to
search  and  prepare  eMails.  Most of all it was the wish of the user
that  he  wants  (like  under  Outlook) to have all his eMails locally
stored. But on the other hand, we all wanted to avoid the mess of some
years before in maintaining different eMail bases.

Thanks  to  all  of  you  and thanks Raymund for eml2TB :) for all the
support in this project.


I don't want to offend you or anything. But that sound like complete  
waste of time for the purpose of not knowing how really IMAP works.  
And for the sake of thinking what could client think that he too  
really doesn't understand how IMAP works.


As pointed multiple times on the list, IMAP can be and is used  
offline, including search and all other functionality.


The whole operation I could have done:

1) Reorganize overcomplicated 1200 folder system into 10-20 folders in  
Outlook which needs work anyway.
2) Export/import messages from Outlook to Gmail account using some 3rd  
party program. It can be any program which exports mail folder by  
folder.
3) Connect TB! to IMAP account and set it to fully synchronize every  
message including attachments (on all computers).

4) Train the client.

Done. Should have taken ~2-3 hours not including 1200 folder  
reorganization. However reorganization should be done by the client  
anyway as only he know the structure email currently is.


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Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-27 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, April 27, 2012, 11:13:11 AM, Rick wrote:
 
 Anyone interested in a program that imports all *.eml in a folder tree
 into the very same folder tree in TB! with only one additional manual
 step? Just let me know.

 I think there would be a LOT of use for such a program!!! 

I  just log on to my IMAP provider, and subscribe to all the folders, 
by using the manage IMAP folders. 

No extraneous software at all.  
  
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Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut

2012-04-27 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Raymund,

RS surprised  after  I  found  it still there). Same is with lots of
RS registry entries that are not removed during uninstall.

RA That is a Windows Installer behaviour that can't be helped. The WI
RA is  designed  to work on corporate machines and soho (small office
RA home  use)  computers  and  while on a local computer you might be
RA able  to  clear  the registry keys of not logged in user that will
RA already fail if that user selected to keep her data private.

OK,  so  that one would be Registry part, however, Ritlab could make a
small  program  designated  to  clean up what was left for single copy
and  single  users (as I am) OR at least prepare detailed guide how to
clean  it  up.  Not  every  one  is  an  expert  OR likes to play with
Registry. Just a wish here :)

As   for   left  data, there should be some pop-up message that data
were  left  on  the  HDD at X location and size of data is Y. There is
none  at the moment so user doesn't know that something is still there
;  I  found it by accident because I was short of 4GB on my laptop. If
it's smaller database I might not to see it for a long time...

From  my point of view leaving data is acceptable if there is detailed
report  as  described  above. Personally I would remove such data with
Eraser  so  they  are overwritten couple of times ; but I need to know
that they are still there :)

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Re: mantis database

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Raymund,

Friday, April 27, 2012, 11:30:31 PM, you wrote:

RT Hi Thomas,

 I think that IMAP and POP3 should be categories, and the Mail
 Management items should be subcategories under each. Filters under
 IMAP may be a different animal from filters under POP.

RT I expect filters and what not to work exactly the same way on POP or
RT IMAP. I would use IMAP and POP only for things that are clearly
RT related to the protocols. Something like 'Can't fetch mails' and stuff
RT like that.

RT If it is something different internally I can't be bothered at all :-)

Well yes, they should work the same. But it is different code, I
suppose. So if something doesn't work, you need to say whether you are
using it under IMAP or POP.

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Re: SOT on Beta List

2012-04-27 Thread Eddie
Dear Thomas,

 --- Thomas Fernandez / Friday Fri  27. Apr 2012, 06:05 PM
SOT on Beta List


 I'm a POPist

Me too :)


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