OT Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented?

[Feli Wilcke]

Am 15.07.19 um 12:57 schrieb Lüko Willms:

don't
throw stones into areas which are beyond your horizon and which you
obviously do not understand.



Cheers,


Why are you so offending? And why don't you respect list rules e.g.
plain text posting and signature delimiters?

Cheers,
Feli


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Re: Announcement

[Feli Wilcke]

No problems here, I got all messages.

Kind regards
Feli 

Am 15. August 2018 16:17:56 MESZ schrieb Marck Pearlstone 
:
>Dear Tbbeta members,
>
>The  list  has  now  moved  to a new server that has a more up to date
>version  of  ListMan  installed  and can now correctly deal with DMARC
>issues.
>
>The  first  test message I said was affected by a mis-configuration of
>the host name.
>
>The second test message I sent was and should be perfect.
>
>Now all members should receive all messages without issue.
>
>Many  thanks to Johannes Posel for his work getting this going so fast
>today.


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Re: List error

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin, 

Am 12. April 2018 10:07:05 MESZ schrieb Martin :
>Hi Viktor
>
>On Monday, April 9, 2018 4:49:46 PM you wrote:
>
>> It seems to me like what you are seeing is not a "List error", but
>your
>> provider (Yahoo) having been blacklisted your fellow users were
>sending
>> spam.
>
>You are right. I have to try several times to send - it depends which
>IP is used. Sometimes the message comes through - sometimes not.

Perhaps a good moment to think about a provider change?

Kind regards
Feli 


 Current beta is 8.3.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Empty message list

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Daniel,

if you recreate all of your accounts in a clean and fresh install, the problem 
should be gone. Afterwards you can copy your old account folders to the new 
location, but only these.

Regards,
Feli (sorry for top posting) 

Am 4. April 2018 09:33:30 MESZ schrieb "Daniel Łuba" :
>W dniu 2018-03-29 o 13:55, Gwen pisze:
>> Hello tbbeta,
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, at 06:16:30 [GMT -0500] (which was 13:16 where I
>> live) Stuart wrote:
>>
 since some beta version I have problem with empty message list.
>When I
 receive  new email - I go to it. And after couple of seconds the
>whole
 folder seems to be empty. I can see body of the message. When I
>switch
 to other folder and back I see the whole list.
 Is it beta issue? Anybody can confirm it?
>>> Yes I have noticed this in the last beta. As you say clicking away
>and back
>>> again seems to fix things.
>> Happens for me rarely in 8.3.0.2 BETA 32bit
>>
>
>So it makes The Bat totally useless. Downgrade to stable version is not
>
>repairing the problem.
>
>-- 
>Regards
>Daniel
>
>
> Current beta is 8.3.0.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
>http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

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Re: 7.4.16.35

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 23:34:28 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 7.4.16.35 (ALPHA) is available at
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb741635-32.rar
> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb741635-64.rar

> What's new in 7.4.16.35 since 7.4.16.34:
> [-] Quick reply didn't work in previous alpha (BETA issue) - thanks
> to Marck Pearstone for sending the exceptions log file

U, no probs so far

-- 
Regards,
Feli

The Bat! Version 7.4.16.35 (ALPHA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service 
Pack 1

Anything is good if it's made of chocolate.



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Re: image download

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:09:40 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>   Are the images being downloaded OK in Alpha .20 after a day of testing?

I have a fashion newsletter that splits images vertically. These
images are not shown one beside the other but one image per row. This
is not new and because it's the only newsletter with that problem I
can live with it.
All other newsletters are ok and it seems to me that image loading has
become faster.

-- 
Regards,
Feli

The Bat! Version 7.4.16.20 (ALPHA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service 
Pack 1

Dew knot trussed yore spell checquer two fined awl mistakes.



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Re: 7.4.16.17

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Anton, hello Maxim,

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:04:00 +0500GMT Anton Belenki wrote:

>> The Bat! 7.4.16.17 (ALPHA) is available at
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb741617-64.rar

> i get this error when trying to run 7.4.16.17.

> 7.4.16.16 works fine.

confirmed

-- 
Regards,
Feli

The Bat! Version 7.4.16.16 (ALPHA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service 
Pack 1

The most important leg of a three legged stool is the one that's
missing. [Lyall's Fundamental Observation]



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Re: 5.4.2.0

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:52:27 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM [-] Program crashes when AltGr is pressed (introduced bug)

confirmed fixed

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Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) on 64bit Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Be more or less specific.



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Re: 5.4.1.0 crash

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Dierk,

On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 08:25:25 +0200GMT Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH Hello Jernej!

DH On Saturday, August 10, 2013 at 10:02:39 PM you wrote:

 Crashes here, too (Windows 8, Slovenian keyboard layout).

DH And here on W7-64, German keyboard. TB crashes and - that's a complete
DH newie to me - get's restarted automatically.

same here

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Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.4.1.0 (ALPHA) on 64bit Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Die Kunst, glücklich zu sein, ist, sich an schlechten Tagen an die
guten Zeiten zu erinnern.



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Re: orphan processes after closing TB!

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Dwight,

On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:14:54 -0500GMT Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC I reported that after exiting TB! to copy extracted file, had to
DC kill thebat process before could copy. this is not the first time
DC I've had to do this.

DC A reply suggested I was just too impatient and that it sometimes it
DC took a long time for TB to close.

I had a similar experience a long time ago, using Windows XP. For W7 I
cannot confirm.

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.3.8.6 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

Warum es besser ist, eine Frau zu sein: Du hast an einer roten Ampel
keinen Stress, nur weil neben Dir ein Porsche steht und Du weißt, wie
gnadenlos er beschleunigen wird.



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Re: 5.3.8.1

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:08:22 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 5.3.8.1 is available

 up  runinning without problems


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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.3.8.1 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Die Initialisierung eines Teils vom wiederum 365.2-ten Teil der
Bewegung unseres Rotationsellipsoiden um eine gigantische, dichte
Wasserstoff-/ Heliumwolke beinhaltet im Artikulationsorgan ein
Edelmetall. »Morgenstund hat Gold im Mund«



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Re: Google contacts import failure

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello George,

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:06:34 +0300GMT George M. Menegakis wrote:

GMM It seems that I cannot make google contacts import to work, no matter what 
I tried.

GMM ---
GMM The Bat!
GMM ---
GMM [Google Import] Login failed
GMM ---
GMM OK   
GMM ---

GMM Is there a setting either on Bat or on Gmail I have to follow in order to 
make this work?

I tried to import my Google contacts and could login to Google using the
window TB showed. The import was quite fast, only some seconds for
677 contacts. But it wasn't complete: all folders (groups) are there but
some are empty and the information for the majority of the contacts
isn't complete.
I'm actually on a quite bad UMTS connection, so I don't know if the bad
quality of the import is due to bad data connection or a bug in TB

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.3.2.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Lieber 8 Bit als ein Byte.



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Re: Report

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Gunivortus,

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:05:57 +0200GMT Gunivortus Goos wrote:

GG Have to try out what happens when IE isn't
GG on my computer anymore. 

I doubt you will be able to remove IE from Windows without breaking it ;)

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.1.6.4 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get
you.
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Re: IMAP and reading HTML eMail

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Eddie,

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:00:37 +0300GMT Eddie wrote:

E Have  you  checked  if  there  is  a difference between those with and
E without Part.att file attached?
E If  the  eMail  is  just a normal announcement from LI then it does not
E have the Part.att file. But those from Group Discussions do have it.

I did but none of the mails from LI has a Part.att here

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Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.36.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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Re: IMAP and reading HTML eMail

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Eddie,

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:12:45 +0300GMT Eddie wrote:

E But  as  I  wrote it seems LinkedIn postings seems to be the
E problem.  Looking  again after reading your reply I see that HTML that
E have  only  a  Message.html  attached  is fine. But most of LinkedIn
E postings  have  in addition also a Part.att file attached. I suspect
E now  that  this file seems to cause some kind of problems. Depending on
E it's size? Don't know!

No problems here with LinkedIn or any other HTML mails

just my 2 cents
-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.36.4 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 SOFTWARE -- formal evening attire for female computer analysts.



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Re: Print plain text problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin,

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:02:40 +0200GMT Martin Schoch wrote:

MS I am using plain text editor. When the text is stored I try to print
MS it. Then I see that there are additional spaces before the last word
MS on every line. I get the same result when printing to a PDF file.

I cannot confirm, here printing is correct, both text and html

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Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.12.16 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Moderators do have a sense of humor. Sometimes it is PG-17.
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Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Richard,

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:12:07 -0400GMT Richard Newman wrote:

RN Add #4 to my gripes and inconveniences:

RN 4) The filter to move and mark as read, does not mark as read.

I cannot confirm this, here such a filter works as expected.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 In case of doubt, make it sound convincing.



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Re: Happy Birthday Marek Mikus

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:32:38 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM   I  don't  know  whether it is forbidden by the rules of TBBETA to say 
Happy
MM   Birthday to Marek Mikus, but I will do that!

Even if I'm late, also from my side happy birthday. Thank you for your
continuous and valuable contributions to TB-Beta

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.6 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1

 Kommt ein Vektor zur Drogenberatung: 'Hilfe, ich bin linear abhängig.'



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Re: The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 is available for beta testers

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Christoph,

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:30:02 +0200GMT Christoph Koch wrote:

CK Hello Maxim, hello List!

CK * Maxim Masiutin wrote '[1]:

 [-] (#0008542) Manual re-threading didn't work (Beta issue)

CK Still doesn't work here.

it's working fine here

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Feli:de-bb:

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 Sich seines eigenen Verstandes zu bedienen, verlangt weit mehr Hirn,
als die Benutzung fremder Gedankengänge.



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Re: 5.0.0.150

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:54:32 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 5.0.0.150 BETA is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500150.rar

ur, looks good so far

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

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 There are many reasons why Apple 'does poorly vis a vis Microsoft'.
Most of them have nothing to do with technology. One big reason is that
people are stupid, easily fooled, and seem to be extraordinarily willing
to spend their money on inferior products. This is not something unique
to the computer industry. [John Norstad (author of Disinfectant)]



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Re: AVs in .141

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Feli,

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:19:14 +0100GMT Feli Wilcke wrote:

FW Hello Roelof,

FW On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:49:30 +0100GMT Roelof Otten wrote:

MDP I got into this situation - it was when the maintenance centre shot
MDP up off the scheduler.

RO I had no scheduler events up and no maintenance either.

FW same situation here.

due to constant AVs back to .140, this is a showstopper

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

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 Make sure all variables are initialised before use.  
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Re: AVs in .141

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roelof,

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:49:30 +0100GMT Roelof Otten wrote:

MDP I got into this situation - it was when the maintenance centre shot
MDP up off the scheduler.

RO I had no scheduler events up and no maintenance either.

same situation here.

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

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Re: Error on closing TheBat!

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin,

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:49:05 +0100GMT Martin Schoch wrote:

MS When closing TheBat! (recent beta 141) sometimes this error message.

MS See attached picture.

This sounds very familiar, only the caller address here is 0012FEE4.
Started some betas ago and I have every time I close TB!

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

Alcohol is not a problem, it's more a solution



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Re: Smileys problem - caused by txt2html.regexps ?

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:50:54 +0100GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

MM when I removed txt2html.regexps, smileys appeared now correctly, could
MM anybody with this problem check existance of txt2html.regexps in working
MM directory and if smileys work without it?

no, doesn't work here. After renaming the file I tried restarting TB
and rebooting the PC, nothing helped  :(

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.138 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Alkohol ist keine Lösung, eher ein Destillat.



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constant AVs for Image Download Manager

[Feli Wilcke]

Hi all,

every time I try to create a rule in the Image Download Manager I get
a lot of AVs and have to close TB via Task Manager.

,- [ AV message ]
| Access violation at address 009EA164 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
| address .
`-

But after restarting, the rule is working (the good side of an odd
behaviour *g*) When reopening the Manager window after restarting TB
the AVs come back. Also when setting the option 'show rules' I get
AVs.

Can anybody confirm?

-- 
Regards,
Feli

Using The Bat! v5.0.0.132 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3

I have discovered the heart of bushido: to die!  [Yamamoto Tsunetomo]



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Re: Broken ational chars in HTML messages

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:34:32 +0100GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

MM I have now discovered problems with encoding national chars in HTML editor,
MM text and HTML parts are broken and even more, TB defines HTML page as UTF8
MM when MIME part has iso-8859-2 definition!

I can confirm (here the plain text is defined as ISO 8859-15) and
found that the text part is formatted as Unicode ACSII escaped. So the
plain text isn't readable.

it's a showstopper for me too.

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.132 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Initialise constants with DATA statements or INITIAL attributes; 
initialise variables with executable code.   
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan  Plaugher)]



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Re: [v5 b127]: Click on Link in HTML Gives Error

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Dierk,

On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:06:30 +0100GMT Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH Not sure this is actually connected to the HTML-part of the
DH message or even the link, but it came up when I clicked a link in
DH such a message.

I had this phenomenon in .127 and in .126 too, back to .125

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Warum es besser ist, eine Frau zu sein: Du musst Deine Maffay-CDs
nicht verstecken.



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Re: [v5b125] back (Re: [v5b124] Smileys gone again (Re: 5.0.0.120))

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Francis,

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:27:41 +0100GMT Francis Dhumes wrote:

FD They're back with .125 . :-/

confirmed

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

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Re: HTML editor : 3 Undo must be used for removing one link from HTML editor

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:00:55 +0100GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

MM I have selected HTML editor, pasted link to editor body and hit Undo - link
MM stayed untouched, but in editor toolbar, Underline icon was checked. When I
MM hit Undo for second time, Underline icon was unchecked and link lost
MM underline, but it was still there. After third Undo, link was finally
MM removed.

MM reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8263

note added

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 If there is a wrong way to do something, most people will do it every
time.



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Re: 5.0.0.124 HTML editor problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Ethan and all,

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 06:16:26 -0500GMT Ethan J Mings wrote:

 My templates use MicroEd as standard editor but sometimes I switch to
 HTML only using the field in the lower right corner of the editor
 window. In this version TB freezes and no other action than closing
 the main window is possible.

 Any confirmation? 

 confirmed here. 

EJM confirmed here.

As also forwarding didn't work I have reported this as bug, please add
your comments: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8246

back to 5.0.0.123
-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.123 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 APL is a write-only language -- you can write it, but not read it.
[Roy Kier]



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Re: 5.0.0.124 HTML editor problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:26:22 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 5.0.0.124 BETA is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500124.rar

MM What's new in 5.0.0.124 since 4.2.38.7:

My templates use MicroEd as standard editor but sometimes I switch to
HTML only using the field in the lower right corner of the editor
window. In this version TB freezes and no other action than closing
the main window is possible.

Any confirmation?

-- 
Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.124 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Character is what you know you are, not what others think you have.
[Marva Collins]



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Re: 5.0.0.124 HTML editor problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello all,

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:05:07 +0100GMT Feli Wilcke wrote:

FW My templates use MicroEd as standard editor but sometimes I switch to
FW HTML only using the field in the lower right corner of the editor
FW window. In this version TB freezes and no other action than closing
FW the main window is possible.

In .123 switching to HTML is working

btw: smileys are broken again

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.123 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Eine Gesellschaft, die sich auf eine Technik einlässt, braucht eine
starke innere Kraft, um von den Zielen nicht verführt, nicht zu gierig
zu werden.[Joseph Weizenbaum (1923-2008)]



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Re: Images disappeared from HTML QT and can not be added

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 23:13:46 +0100GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

MM when i opened QT editor in build .123, images disappeared from HTML
MM templates and I can not add them again, they are not displayed after
MM adding.

This is working here. I see the image in the QT, can add and delete
images.

MM Can anybody confirm please?

sorry, but I can't. Could it be a W7 problem?

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.123 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 The Majority is never right unless it includes me.



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Re: v 5.x: no more image smileys

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Francis,

On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:03:55 +0100GMT Francis Dhumes wrote:

FD Please support this bug !

done.  I want my smileys back ;-)
-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 I have always found that mercy bears richer fruits than strict
justice. [Abraham Lincoln, 16th U.S. President (1809-1865)]



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Re: Odd behaviour after deleting an account

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roelof,

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:34:19 +0100GMT Roelof Otten wrote:

RO   I deleted an obsolete account.
RO   After  deleting  it TB showed me the properties of the account above
RO   the  deleted account in the accout tree pane, just like when you see
RO   when you've selected the root of an account.

confirmed

RO   But after I selected a different folder (in a different account) the
RO   message list pane didn't get updated. :-(

same here

RO   I had to restart TB to get a proper message list.

RO   When I tried to reproduce this behaviour by deleting another account
RO   (I  didn't  have  any  other obsolete accounts, so this was created
RO   especially  for  this  test)  the  'message list' I got was somewhat
RO   sticky,  but  after  six or seven folder changes my message list got
RO   updated.

That's how it worked here.

RO   Is  this  because TB was still busy deleting the account files or is
RO   it something else?

I waited for some minutes and then I TB showed me the correct message
lists. Restart was not necessary. My deleted account had only 60
messages in the inbox, how long would it take if there are some
hundreds?

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Q: How many software engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?
 A: It can't be done; it's a hardware problem.



 Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 5.0.0.117

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Andreas,

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:02:28 +0100GMT Andreas Schwartmann wrote:

AS I installed 5.0.0.117.

AS When exiting the program, it deleted all my messages and emptied my folders.

That's why there is the message box with the warning on first start :-)

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 die computerrevolution ist vorbei. die computer haben gewonnen.



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Re: 5.0.0.117

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:55:48 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF Previewing   a   Message  still  marks  the  Message  read,  even  the
JF Preferences say: Mark only read when opened in seperate window.

cannot confirm, here it's working like in 4.x, previewing doesn't mark
read.

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The Bat! 5.0.0.117 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Half the people you know are below average.



 Current beta is 5.0.0.117 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 5.0.0.117

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:52:24 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF Am 13.12.2010 10:49, schrieb Feli Wilcke:
 cannot confirm, here it's working like in 4.x, previewing doesn't mark
 read.

JF Do you have POP3 or IMAP Accounts - i am having IMAP only.
JF Maybe with POP3 it works, like my crystal ball tells me ;-)

It's working here for both, IMAP and POP3, your crystal ball needs
maintenance :-)

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.117 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Warum es besser ist, mit einer Katze zu leben, als mit einem Mann:
Katzen mögen alle Fernsehprogramme – nicht nur Fußball und Action



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Re: 5.0.0.113

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roelof,

On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:31:45 +0100GMT Roelof Otten wrote:

RO On  a  dual  monitor  system TB doesn't remember the monitor it should
RO start.

ST Can't confirm, just tested it and TB! opens the main window in the
ST correct position...

RO Over  here  it starts the main window on my primary monitor and not on
RO the  seconday monitor and it used to that for ages. Even dragging .113
RO to   the   secondary   monitor   and   closing  there results the next
RO session starting on the primary monitor.

same here and .113 is the first version where this happens

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The Bat! 5.0.0.113 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 I need some help up here, it`s technical! [Steve Jobs]



 Current beta is 5.0.0.114 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 5.0.0.114

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:38:34 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM [-] Problems with positioning some forms on seciondary monitors

seems to be fixed, thank you

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The Bat! 5.0.0.114 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 FORTRAN, the infantile disorder, by now nearly 20 years old, is
hopelessly inadequate for whatever computer application you have in
mind today: it is now too clumsy, too risky, and too expensive to use.
[Edsger W. Dijkstra, writing in the 70's]



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Re: 5.0.0.112

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Dwight,

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:50:18 -0600GMT Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC should add jumping to next folder does not take to an unread message. 

jumps to the folder but to the last marked message, not the unread
one.
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.112 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Jedes Ding hat drei Seiten: Meine, Deine und die richtige [also doch
meine]



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Re: Crash on almost every HTML Message

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Dwight,

On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 09:58:39 -0600GMT Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC If I saw an example of html which didn't display correctly in IMAP, I 
DC would add a POP account and test. 

I have the same address as POp and IMAP account and can say that both
behave the same. Both don't show the URL manager, so I can only see
the texts and images sent with the mail.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.110 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Alle Rechtschreibefehler sind durch die Übertragung entstanden und
dürfen behalten werden.



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Re: 5.0.0.108

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:08:33 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

 The Bat! 5.0.0.108 ALPHA

JF Running,  the  URLmanager  looks  funny  and  has a Russian instead of
JF English Text in the lower area...

here it's worse: the URLmanager doesn't work at all. I didn't see him
since I installed .107 (this was the first Beta in this cycle for me).

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 5.0.0.108 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Choose a data representation that makes the program simple.  
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan  Plaugher)]



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Re: Did I miss the funeral?

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jay,

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:25:04 +0300GMT Jay Walker wrote:

JW Look, I receive electronic plane tickets that I even hesitate to read
JW in TB. I certainly would never print them from TB. Yes, there is a
JW workaround. I can open them in my Web browser and then read them and
JW print them from there. But when I get those same plane tickets on my
JW WinMo phone, they look much better in Outlook. It's not just missing
JW embedded graphics here. Font sizes and font weights are distorted in
JW TB. Table borders get lost in TB. Graphics and hypertext that are
JW hidden in the browser appear as empty boxes and indecipherable symbols
JW in TB.

I'm quite sure that TB is not the only mailclient that has a different
method for displaying HTML than Outlook. Here in Germany all tickets I
get electronically are sent as PDF attachments. So the airline can be
sure that the representation is as they intended.

Making Outlook the ultimate benchmark for HTML representation is the
same as it was some years ago with browsers and Internet Exploder
(misspelling intended ;-) ).  There were a lot of proprietary
solutions inside IE and it was declared to be the standard. But the
upcoming  popularity of FireFox et al. forced M$ to adjust IE. Now
you have to use the compatibility mode to view pages that were
optimised for IE6 using IE8.

Life is change, QED.

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Avoid unnecessary branches.  
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan  Plaugher)]



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Re: HTML mails

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:13:22 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

FW I'm quite sure that TB is not the only mailclient that has a different
FW method for displaying HTML than Outlook.

TF I agree with that, but it is not a question of the method to render
TF HTML emails, it's a question of the result of rendering them, i.e. as
TF they were meant to be seen.

And there is an Outlook feature I don't like at all, even if someone
on the list asked to imitate this behaviour: Outlook removes images
and I have to reload them one by one. I just prefer TB's way.

TF The user doesn't care about the engine behind it, he cares about
TF the outcome and showing the HTML mail correctly.

That's how it should be for a customer who doesn't want to look behind
the scene and understand how it's working. But such a customer would
not be in this list :-)

TF Outlook usually does that.

The important word is usually. Did you ever see HTML-mail comming from
Lotus Notes displayed in Outlook? Horrible and completely different
from the look inside Notes. The other way around is the same.

TF And if there are clients out there apart from TB! that don't, we
TF should use them as benchmarks.

There are a lot, Lotus Notes as mentioned, ThunderBird (the other TB
*g*), Foxmail, YAMC and they all have their issues and glitches in
displaying HTML.

TF Saying other products are even worse than ours is not a way to
TF satisafy customers.

Full ACK

TF However, Outlook does the job correctly,

That is my point, I doubt that. Outlook displays perfectly if you stay
in the M$ environment. The same is true for Notes if you stay there
and for many other applications. I just wanted to say that even
Outlook is not the Non-Plus-Ultra for any HTML mail.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Use recursive procedures for recursively-defined data structures.
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan  Plaugher)]



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Re: Did I miss the funeral?

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Alto,

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:06:19 +0200GMT Alto Speckhardt wrote:

AS It would also help if you could set the display mode per folder
AS instead of once globally

I agree on that request, that would be very convenient.

As for the comparison between HTMLrendering in outlook and TB: I have
one account running in both MUA and cannot see there any major
difference. For me, TB's HTML rendering is sufficient.

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The Bat! 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Smith's Test for Artifical Life: When animal-rights activists and
right-to-life protesters are marching outside your laboratory, then
you know you've definitely made progress in your artificial life
research. [Donald A. Smith]



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Re: Did I miss the funeral?

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jay,

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:58 +0300GMT Jay Walker wrote:

JW I have no idea what is MUA (make-up artist?)

MUA = Mail User Agent  in contrast to MTA, Mail Transport Agent.

JW , but sufficient is a relative term.

correct.

JW Personally, I rarely use HTML;

so do I, even Outlook is set to text as standard format

JW but when I do need it, then TB is a relatively poor tool for
JW both creating and viewing messages... in my opinion.

as relative as my satisfaction with TB. Here I can do anything I want
to do in HTML and I don't need more. I have quite a big number of
newsletters but no problem with one of them. So what should I whish
more?

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.36.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Heut debug ich, morgen brows ich, übermorgen cast ich die Königin auf
int.



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Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Thomas,

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:31:47 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF If you can point me to that mistake, I
TF want to try and edit the mail in a text editor and see whether it
TF displays correctly after fixing. I do think this is on-topic, as it is
TF a test concerning the HTML rendering engine in TB!. If there are
TF objections against testing this on the list, I will be happy to do
TF this by PM.

!DOCTYPE -//w3c//dtd 4.0 html public transitional//en is the
original text from your attachment.
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xml-20040204/#NT-doctypedecl is the
whole set of w3c recommendations for doctypes and also has some
examples. You could try to completely remove the satement as it is not
required

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Die letzten Worte des Schwimmers: 'Nein, hier in den Gewässern gibt
es keine Haie.' 



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Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:02:17 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

PVN Do you want TB to use IE to render HTML like so many others?

TF Are we discussing again whether or not TB! should display HTML?

I agree with you that TB should display HTML. But then the HTML code
has to be written following the W3C standards. Many pages that don't
display as they should contain HTML errors.

TF And I want HTML mails to be displayed correctly, no excuses.

Well, I understand the request but: if you order a cocktail in a bar
and you get something that doesn't follow the recipe, who would you
blame, the recipe or the bartender?

I'm pretty sure that there will always be webpages and HTML messages
that don't show up properly as long as there is a large number of
rendering engines. On the other hand, a tolerant rendering has always
the risk of security issues.

TF For me as a user, it is transparent whether they use the IE
TF engine. They chose not to, and that is OK with me.

The problem with rendering is that there are still web programmers who
optimize their code for IE 7 or even IE6. Nearly all actual browsers have
problems displaying such pages. Knowing that it makes sense that
windows asks me during updates for IE8 if I want to install also the
compatibility mode for older IE versions.

I'm not a web programmer but I use XML very often. Looking at the
source code of your example shows an incorrect DOCTYPE statement. So,
perhaps this is the root of the unsatisfying display of the HTML?

TF They reported that they have improved something in this beta
TF version, and I tested and found a problem. Why are you hitting me
TF up for testing a beta version for the apparently fixed problem?

You shouldn't be hit but one of the programmers should explain why
this message doesn't display properly in TB.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Initialise constants with DATA statements or INITIAL attributes; 
initialise variables with executable code.   
[The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan  Plaugher)]



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Re: 4.2.23 MSI - again

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:52:00 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM I have updated thebat.exe to remove excessive exception logging
MM and updated the MSI files again under same names. If you have
MM installed an earlier 4-2-23 MSI file already, please uninstall it,
MM otherwise you will gen an errror that another version of the product is 
already installed.

I followed the instruction and have it up  running
no problems so far

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Warum fragen Hellseher nach Deinem Namen?



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Re: 4.2.23 MSI

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Krzysztof,

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:36:10 +0100GMT Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote:

KK My  common  folders  are  empty  now. i used common folders on the bat
KK level, not in account(s).

80% of my incomming mails are filtered to common folders outside of
accounts and they are still there and have the same content as before.

So I cannot confirm your observation for XP SP3.
Perhaps it is W7 related?

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again. [Oscar Wilde]



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Re: 4.2.23 MSI

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:56:04 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF Oh, thank you for warning me, i have a lot of Common Folders
JF and thought about to upgrade to this Version.

complete backup before upgrading reduces the risk ;-)
Come on, give it a try!

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Documentation is like term insurance: It satisfies because almost no
one who subscribes to it depends on its benefits. [Alan J. Perlis]



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Re: Moving folder not possible

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:25:29 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

 try Ctrl + Shift + Cursor, up and down is clear (I hope), left moves
 subfolders out and right moves in.

RB It is not working with me as it should! When I want to move a
RB subfolder of Sent Mail to the right alphabetical order I only
RB get a subfolder of an other subfolder!

Did you try this also with other folders? I found that all folder with
newer messages can be moved but folders only containing messages
created before the change of the db-format and never changed since do
have problems with moving. But I will investigate this assumption.

Btw: Why do you end nearly each sentence with an exclamation mark?

RB By the way, when I click on answer to your message I get your message 
twice within the answer!

RB It seems that I must search a version of TheBat where it is working 
RB o.K.!

no, it's not TB's bug but you should revise your templates.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.19.2 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 Nature will tell you a direct lie if she can. [Darwin's Observation]



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Re: Moving folder not possible

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:25:14 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

 PS: I can move the folders.

RB And how? In earlier time I used Alt + moving with the left
RB mouse button! But as I mentioned it is not working any more!

try Ctrl + Shift + Cursor, up and down is clear (I hope), left moves
subfolders out and right moves in.

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.19.2 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3

 In the good old days physicists repeated each other's experiments,
just to be sure. Today they stick to FORTRAN, so that they can share
each other's programs, bugs included. [Edsger W. Dijkstra]



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HTML reply quotation line

[Feli Wilcke]

Hi all,

I just noticed that the blue line at the left edge has become thicker
in the last beta. It looks much uglier now then before.

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Feli

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Re: Edit as New?

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Steven,

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:43:48 -0500GMT Steven P Vallière wrote:

SPV It is not uncommon for me to want to re-send an old message,
SPV sometimes to the same people, sometime to new people, and
SPV sometimes with additional or updated information.

Why don't you copy the already sent message to the outbox and
edit the header and the message there? This is already possible and
should suit your needs.

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.13.4 ALPHA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: 4.2.12.3

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:00:29 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM [-] (#0007762) It wasn't possible to create IMAP folders

confirmed as fixed, thank you

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.12.4 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: [The Bat! 4.2.10.17 (BETA)] IMAP: Could not create a new index of a message base

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Volker,

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:16:29 +0100GMT Volker Ahrendt wrote:

VA Several times I tried to create a new IMAP folder and got this error
VA message:

VA ---
VA The Bat!
VA ---
VA Could not create a new index of a message base

I have this error message too, but without creating a new IMAP folder.
The only thing I did is synchronizig the folders

VA Did anyone of you experience similar problems recently? – Maybe it is
VA one of the IMAP improvements.  

You forgot the sarcasm smiley ;-) and I don't hope so

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.10.17 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: CTRL-M in first Line

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:32:19 +0200GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF But how do i get an empty line without CTRL-M ???

CTRL-M = X'0D' = CR, the first half of a Windows linefeed.

You could try to put a space in the first line and see if you end up
with X'20' X'0D' or X'20' X'0D' X'0A' (what you probably expect).

-- 
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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.10.16 (ALPHA4) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: [UR] 4.2.10.16

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:41:27 +0200GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF The Version Numbering makes it very difficult to keep the Overview in
JF the Storage Directory, while sorting by Filenames...

problem solved by sort by date ;-)

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.10.16 (ALPHA4) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: PNG Picture Import Problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Morton,

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:56:07 -0500GMT Morton A. Goldberg, DVM wrote:

MAGD Tried importing a PNG picture to one of my address book entries.
MAGD Even though the PNG format is supposed to be supported, I got an
MAGD alert box with an error message:

MAGD Unknown Graphics Stream Format

MAGD So I converted the picture to a JPG and tried again. That time, it 
imported
MAGD normally.

confimed here, same error message. It's possible to import any other format 
than .png

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Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.2.9.4 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: PNG Picture Import Problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Morton,

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:27:17 -0500GMT Morton A. Goldberg, DVM wrote:

 confimed here, same error message. It's possible to import any other format 
 than .png


MAGD Thank you. Filed Bug Report. If you'd like to add note, go here:
MAGD https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7675

done.

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The Bat! 4.2.9.4 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: An address book accessibility problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:38:27 +0200GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF I could get you in touch with Bert, which is on another The_Bat List.
JF He is a German Guy which is a Big Multiplicator within blind People.
JF If even he could suggest you a good working other Software, i think?

Berts suggestion will be to stay with a working version and forget new
features. This has been discussed in the german list.

And I doubt you want to expose Claude to Bert's rude and unfriendly
way of treating people ;-)

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The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** An address book accessibility problem

[Feli Wilcke]

Salut Claude,

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:55:09 +0200GMT Claude Renaud wrote:

CR I'm blind and am using JAWS as my default screen reader.
...
CR Have someone (blinds if there are other) else noticed this ?
CR And could someone put a entry on the BT (if needed of course) ?

have a look at this BT entry:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6657  assigned in jan 08.
Sorry to say, but you're only one more who has problems with the newer
versions of TB!

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The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: Spell checking

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Vili,

On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:13:35 -0400GMT Vili wrote:

V A user reported that if Office is installed, the CSAPI engine has
V priority over the Hunspell directories. The Hunspell works fine if
V Office is not installed.

V Confirmation?

no, I have installed MS-Office and Open Office and TB uses OO
dictionaries here. But don't ask me how to configure that, it worked
by itself :-)

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Re: Date/Time format in preferences

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Martin,

On Wed, 13 May 2009 07:39:05 +0200GMT Martin Schoch wrote:

MS In Options - Preferences - Date/Time Format the time variable t
MS seems not to work.

works fine over here, see above

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The Bat! 4.1.11.27 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: [4.1.11.18] Browse deleted Messages Move/Copy to folder

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello GwenDragon,

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:40:54 +0200GMT GwenDragon wrote:

G Using TheBat's menue with Browser deleted Messages and then Move to 
folder or Move to
G folder doesn't not work.
G The message can be browsed, but not moved.

confirmed

G Undelete works, but this does not move.

it restores the message to the folder where it was deleted from. wad

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The Bat! 4.1.11.16 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: Search for duplicate Messages (which come by themselve like reported)

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:57:51 +0200GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF today i saw that a message in Virtual Common Folder Inbox duplicated
JF and shows up with the same MSG-ID twice.

JF Pressing STRG-D and searching for duplicate Messages did not help.

seems logical to me, because in virtual folders you see the message
only by a pointer to the real message.

JF I was forced to go to the Real Folder, press STRG-D and the duplicate
JF was gone.

I would expect just this behaviour. You have to delete the real
duplicate, then it will no longer show up in the virtual folder.

JF I will The Bat! Rename to Suddenly Ghost! soon.

Do you think this will :help: ? ;-)

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The Bat! 4.1.11.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: Moving Messages very slow

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:37:07 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF is  there anything i could do ... to make The_Bat move
JF Messages quicklier (as it has been recently).

JF Can i Re-Index the Database?
JF Can i do any futher Maintaince?
JF Should i do a Backup an install new and restore the Backup?

all possible but I would recommend to compress the database first.

JF My %APPDATA%\The Bat! is 716Mb size.

I don't think the size of the message base is relevant. Mine has more
than 4 GB and moving is really fast.

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The Bat! 4.1.7.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re[2]: AddressBooks profile reset to default!

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:58:55 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

RB Hi Marek,


RB when I click on the Answer-button I get the text of your mail twice:

I think you have a problem with your reply templates. Perhaps you should
try to recreate  one or two from scratch and check if they still behave
strange.

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Re[2]: AddressBooks profile reset to default!

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:53:48 +0100GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

 Can't  confirm.  I've  got  just one personal AB (no default name) and
 nothing else, no LDAP, no CA and that didn't change with .34

MM I   do   not  know,  I  have many addressbooks, many accounts, logging as a
MM user but mainlyasadministrator - maybe   there  are other 
conditions
MM which cause lost profiles...

no addressbook problems here, around 20 different addressbooks are still
available. Working always as admin. 

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Re: Backups

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Ian,

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:14:39 +0100GMT Ian Pollard wrote:

IP Does anyone know which version first saw the backup/restore
IP facility not working correctly please

AFAIK it was 4.0.34.11

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Re: Editor : Spellchecker items are enabled even there is no detected language/dictionary

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Marek,

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:27:59 +0200GMT Marek Mikus wrote:

MM I have started TB special installation with no SSCE/HUNSPELL/CSAPI
MM dictionaries and all Spell checker menu entries in Editor are enabled,
MM even no language can be selected (language entry is hidden) and no
MM spellchecking can be done.

MM Confirmations?

not problem, spell checking works fine in german (old and new) and british
english, both in MicroEd and html

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Re[2]: 4.0.26.1 New layout

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:37:20 +0700GMT Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF Seriously, I haven't kept up to date whether TB! is still fully
TF accessable to blind users.

unfortunately it isn't. Most of them have to stick with 3.0.1.33 as this
is the latest version usable with jaws. WindowsEyes is able to work with
3.99.29, but not with never versions.

We have a bug tracker issue ( https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6657 )
but since february nothing happened there.

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Re: 4.0.24.23

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:12:48 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 4.0.24.23 is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402423.rar

up and running

MM [-] (#0007073) Attachments were open twice

fixed, opens only once. I tried this with a jpeg and it had half the space
(in both dimensions) using the internal viewer than it has in IrfanView :-(
This didn't happen on older versions.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.24.19

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Ian,

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:35:17 +1000GMT Ian A. White wrote:

IAW When I double-click on an attachment in a message to launch it, The
IAW Bat! launches it twice.

confirmed, same here

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Re: 4.0.24.17

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:59:10 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM The Bat! 4.0.24.17 is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb402417.rar

no problems here

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Re: Marking Text stop at Special Characters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:26:52 +0200GMT Jens Franik wrote:

JF if i mark Text with double click, the marking stop at Special Characters
JF and not at Spaces/Tabs around Word.

JF Confirmations?

yes, confirmed. MS-Word behaves the same, also does excel.

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Colour groups and filters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hi all,

I have a set of filters that sets colour groups and sorts mails into
common folders. Sorting is ok but messages are no longer coloured.
This doesn't depend on the account or folder.
Any confimations?

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Re: Colour groups and filters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Stefan,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:57:59 +0200GMT Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST What is the colour group hanlde please? It's needed it for testing.

I have a lot of handles, here are some of the non working ones: TB Beta,
Bat OT, Bat DT

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Re: Colour groups and filters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Uwe,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:37:22 +0100GMT Uwe Steinfeld wrote:

US reported under
US https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6690

ok, I'll add a comment

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.99.11 ALPHA

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jernej,

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:20:56 +0100GMT Jernej Simoncic wrote:

JS On Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 23:44:23, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba40011.rar

JS The splitter between attachments and message body is invisible in this
JS version.

here it is clearly visible

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.99.11 ALPHA

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Rick,

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:21:40 -0500GMT Rick Grunwald wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba40011.rar

RG Check the subject - 399.11 ALPHA?  :))

well, seems to be a typo. The about screen says 4.0.0.11 Alpha :-)

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Re: 4.0.0.10

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:10:55 +0200GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM [-] (alpha issue) Address-related Menu items were not shown in the
MM message header pane

now I'm a happy trooper :-)

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TB! and screenreader

[Feli Wilcke]

Hi all,

the newer versions of TB are going more and more unusable for people
using screenreaders. Friends told me that the last version with Jaws
and XP is 3.1.33 and with WindowsEyes and XP was 3.99.29. With Vista
there is no chance because graphics, radio buttons and control buttons
are no longer recognised as such.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6657 is the entry in the whish
list and I hope many of you will support this whish.

If graphics in TB stay as they are, we will loose the majority of
screenreader users for Thunderbird (the other TB *g*)

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Re[2]: Private reply wish

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Cees,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:29:11 +0100GMT Cees wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:14:30 +0100GMT Gunivortus Goos wrote:

GG Would it be possible to add a 'private reply' option?
GG There are lots of reasons to answer someone in private
GG on her/his message on a list.

C  reply all, then cut and paste the cc:-field to the to:-field.

Once there was the possibility in message preview pane to right click
on senders name and choose reply to this address. Also I could
import the address to the address book. This no longer works and I
have only the copy option.
I would like to have the former functionality back.

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Re[2]: sig delimiter not always working

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Henk,

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:52:50 +0100GMT Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:

 I have been playing with different formats but I an now back to Microed
 plain text. Checked my templates, should work now (I hope).

HMdB Second try, maybe I have found the cause?

yes :-)

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Re: Forward looses special characters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:00:42 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

RB There is shown: multipart/mixed;

so no charset ist defined and I reckon TB! takes this for 7-bit ASCII

 If you try to forward Hendrik's mail, does it loose the accented
 characters?

RB There I see them!

then it is the fault of the sending mail program. It didn't
declare the content properly.

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Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Peter,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:44:23 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote:

PM when there is more than one sig-delimiter in a message, TB! doesn't
PM recognize the first, but the last one.

I think it was always like that.

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Re: Sig-delimiter not properly recognized

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Peter,

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:22:49 +0100GMT Peter Meyns wrote:

PM My confusion came from a change that has
PM obviously occurred on the German TB! off-topic list.
...
PM A short time ago they must have changed these three dashes to a
PM correct sig-delimiter (or was that you?), and I only now realized it.

It wasn't me but the people at ml4free. Now you can read better my
taglines ;-)

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Re: Forward looses special characters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:01:50 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

RB  In the original message I didn't got German Umlaute - example: in
Rückschein 

how would you expect accents in the forwarded message when they are
not in the original one? Again, what was the charset of the original
message?

 Some Umlaute to test: Ä ä Ö ö Ü ü
 Some french characters: é è ê ç à ù î

RB I don't mean a normal message!

What do you mean by normal message?

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Re: Forward

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:17:35 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

RB when I want to forward a mail, I don't get the German Umlaute in this 
mail!

not confirmed. I tried both, forward and alternate forward and always
got accented characters.

Which charset did the forwarded mail had and which charset do you use
when you forward it?

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Re: Forward looses special characters

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Roland,

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:32:30 +0100GMT Roland Burger wrote:

 Again, what was the charset of the original message?

RB As charset is mentioned Systemstandard! The Umlaute have been in the 
original message!

Systemstandard is the charset you use when you send mails. I was speaking of 
the
charset of the mail you want to forward. If you select this mail and
press F9, you will see something like
,- [  ]
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
`-

 Some Umlaute to test: Ä ä Ö ö Ü ü
 Some french characters: é è ê ç à ù î

RB I don't mean a normal message!

 What do you mean by normal message?

this is still my question

If you try to forward Hendrik's mail, does it loose the accented
characters?

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Re: [OT] Error clicking on URL

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Jens,

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:22:35 +0100GMT Jens Franik wrote:

 Over here, clicking on the URL works. If you have this problem with
 every URL, Is it possible that your TB! does not have access to the
 default browser?

JF Yes, this is the problem i think, because i use Firefox and the
JF Message mostly happens while the Browser is not already startet.

Here it works with FF, no problems to start it from url in mail

JF Maybe it's possible to tell The_Bat! which browser to use?

AFAIK you cannot tell TB which is the default browser, it uses the
browser set as default for the whole system. Just tell windows to use
FF as default and it should work.

JF I even would change an registry entry, i am able to do this.

I see no need to do this.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.99.25

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Eddie,

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:33:47 +0100GMT Eddie Castelli wrote:

EC Is there also a Pro Version Link or is it the Intpack?

Pro version is here:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-25.msi

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Re: [The Bat! 3.99.24] Scrollbar in Message Header (History) does not work in Editor

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Ian,

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:56:04 +1000GMT Ian A. White wrote:
IAW On Friday, August 31, 2007, 10:08:38 PM, you (Volker Ahrendt) wrote:

VA If I create a new message and want to choose a recipient or subject
VA from the History listbox, the scrollbar is not accessible.

VA Confirmations?

IAW Confirmed.

IAW Looks like the old bug where the scrollbar button could not be dragged
IAW has popped up again. I thought it was fixed.

IAW You can pick above and below the button but you just cannot drag it.

same here. But because I can scroll through the list and select any
address in the list I consider this a cosmetic issue ;-)

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Re: MAPI in 3.99.24

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Stuart,

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:04:01 -0500GMT Stuart Cuddy wrote:

SC  Should this resolve clicking on a mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . When I do
SC this in Firefox TB is not launched.

SC OK different problem. I just realized that the mailto: option was not
SC set under Options/Preferences/Applications, but I am unable to set it.
SC It acts like it is changing, but doesn't.

Did you also change the mailto: option in Internet Explorer and not
only in FireFox?



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The Bat! 3.99.23.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.23 BETA

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Volker,

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:28:41 +0200GMT Volker Ahrendt wrote:

VA And the sizes of Account tree, Message list and Preview pane are not
VA stored. After each restart I have to resize the windows.

not here, each setting is stored.

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Regards,
Feli  ^^°-°^^:de-bb:

The Bat! 3.99.23 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



 Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Issue with mailbox

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Indie_Dev,

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:02:42 -0400GMT Indie_Dev wrote:

 Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be
 faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination.

I Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly?

it lets reappear lost folders

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Regards,
Feli:de-bb:

The Bat! 3.99.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.23 BETA

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Maxim,

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:14:06 +0300GMT Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39923.rar 

up and running, no problems so far

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Regards,
Feli  ^^°-°^^:de-bb:

The Bat! 3.99.23 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



 Current beta is 3.99.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html