Re: TheBat! display issues
Hi On Saturday 5 December 2020 at 10:57:40 AM, in , MAU wrote:- > I personally use what I called a long time ago my > "yellowish icons" > and normal folders are yellow and folders with unread > messages blue. How do you make the folder icon yellow? -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> I would like to help you out. Which way did you come in? Using The Bat! Version 9.3.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! display issues
Hi On Saturday 5 December 2020 at 4:04:51 AM, in , Sergio Barbery wrote:- > I've tried setting Color group but it has no affect > on Folder color when it contains unread messages. > It remains just bold with the same color. You can edit the settings of the colour group. Options | Preferences | Colour Groups Click on the colour group you want to edit Click Edit On the General tab, you can pick font name and scaling On the Colours & Styles tab you can pick style, font colour, background colour. You set them independently for normal, unread, selected, etc. So it's up to you whether the unread colour is the same or different. > If I set different styling (Colors & Styles) for > Unread messages for color group this applied > to Message list but not Folder tree. If a folder in the tree has a colour group set for it, the colour group's styling should be seen on that folder name in the tree. > So that's the question how to mark folder with unread > messages with a specific styling. Just apply a colour group to the folder names in the folder tree, and configure that colour group to have that specific styling for unread. At least, it works like that foe me. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone Using The Bat! Version 9.3.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! display issues
Hi On Thursday 3 December 2020 at 3:15:16 PM, in , Sergio Barbery wrote:- > Is it possible > to mark unread folder with font color? Yes. Apply colour groups to the folders in the list. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Two wrongs don't make a right. But three lefts do. Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.0.3 HTML black-on-black
Hi On Monday 30 November 2020 at 12:54:35 AM, in , MFPA wrote:- > I have re-activated that option because I looked at > that message in "Classic" theme and it displayed my pale > text colours against a white background. Which is not > pretty. And, more importantly, is not easy to read. After sending that one I went back to Classic theme and checked both messages. They BOTH now show fine, with pale text colours on dark background. So I have no idea what's going om. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.0.3 HTML black-on-black
Hi On Monday 30 November 2020 at 12:47:08 AM, in , MFPA (me) wrote:- > When I sent the messages that were black on black > when viewed in Classic theme, I didn't have "Include > current profile's layout into HTML messages" checked > under Editor Preferences. Checking that option made the > issue go away (at least for me looking at my subsequent > messages if I switched to Classic theme). For the > message I'm writing now I have unchecked that option. I have re-activated that option because I looked at that message in "Classic" theme and it displayed my pale text colours against a white background. Which is not pretty. And, more importantly, is not easy to read. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Truth is what remains when all illusions have been stripped away. Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.0.3 HTML black-on-black
Hi Thomas On Sunday 29 November 2020 at 1:21:51 AM, you wrote: > Oh I see. So the bug was on sender's side, not receiver's side. Maybe MFPA or > George Salnick could send another test message to verify it has been fixed. When I sent the messages that were black on black when viewed in Classic theme, I didn't have "Include current profile's layout into HTML messages" checked under Editor Preferences. Checking that option made the issue go away (at least for me looking at my subsequent messages if I switched to Classic theme). For the message I'm writing now I have unchecked that option. I forwarded a couple of the messages that were black on black when viewed in Classic theme, as attachments, to my work address. We are forced to use Outlook, and they didn't display black on black there. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> The problem is not that we're paranoid; it's that we're not paranoid enough. Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.0.2 - hot fixes
Hi On Friday 13 November 2020 at 3:47:57 PM, in , Jernej Simončič wrote:- > The setup broke my taskbar pinned icon again… It usually breaks mine, but on this occasion it removed it. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Yellow snow is not lemon flavoured Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.2 - Dark theme, text messages invisible; Smileys corrupted when replying to HTML message
Hi On Friday 16 October 2020 at 11:00:10 AM, in , Viktor Kabelac wrote:- > the text of text e-mails > became invisible because white on white background. > Others have noted this too. I guess the message pane > background should become dark as with HTML mails? The colours used to display plaintext emails have always been controlled by the user's own settings. I have used a black background with a light text colour for many years. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Rose rose to put rose roes on her rows of roses. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.2 And one more+ email that not colored to black theme
Hi On Friday 16 October 2020 at 2:19:53 AM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote:- > No software should nanny the user. I thought that was the purpose of default settings. (-; > If the sender > meant to send black-on-black, he will have his reason. If the sender wants it to look a particular way on the recipient's screen, they should send it as an image or a PDF. Even then, the recipient's settings may cause it to look different - think of accessibility settings or just personal preferences, and some PDF readers have a "night" view mode. If the message was coded as black-on-black, white-on-white, or any similar obviously-unreadable combination, you may have a point. Spam messages often have portions like this, hiding search keywords or, perhaps, malicious links. Often, the message code stipulates a text colour or a background colour but not both. For 15+ years, my profile layout in TB! has specified black background with a slightly off-white main text colour. It's not unusual to see an email that has over-ridden one colour but not both."Select All" generally makes it readable. But I normally read all messages in plaintext, only switching to the HTML tab if the plaintext version seems to not be the whole message. I also use colour groups to have a mainly black background in the message list and folder list. Screenshot attached. (The yellow in the folder list is the actual account names, the red writing in the folder list is folders with unread messages; unread messages in the message list would be coloured that way as well but there are none in that screenshot.) > I > don't think the software should decide to change the > colours, unless instructed by the user. Setting a colour theme _is_ instructing the software to change the colours. > Note: I do not use themes, and your mail looks here > exactly how you intended it to look (I hope). As this is supposed to be a plaintext mailing list, the mail you receive should display on your screen exactly as _you_ intend it to look. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Put knot yore trust inn spel chequers Using The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.2 And one more+ email that not colored to black theme
Hi On Wednesday 14 October 2020 at 6:03:20 PM, in , George Salnik wrote:- > Here the screenshot - > https://content.screencast.com/users/george2534/folders/Snagit/media/1cab2170-7053-41f3-8709-ec88759570db/10.14.2020-19.53.jpg > there is another email example for programers > Go to site with browser and waste the time with this, The screenshot on the right is much better for me. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Learning without thought is naught; thought without learning is dangerous. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.2 And one more email that not colored to black theme
Hi On Monday 12 October 2020 at 11:29:34 AM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > It's not a > trivial task to guess what would be the best replacement > for original colors to maintain the readabilty and > overall styling, At work we are forced to use a version of Internet Explorer that doesn't have a dark mode; the CSS below (found somewhere online) works pretty well to get IE to render many web pages as pale text on a dark background. Pictures look weird, though, and occasional pages are dark while loading then temporarily blind you by switching to bright at the last minute. An HTML email body is pretty much the same as a web page, and such a simple CSS does about three quarters of the job. ---BEGIN CSS--- body:before { content:""; position:fixed; top:50%; left: 50%; z-index:; width:1px; height: 1px; outline:2999px solid invert; } End CSS -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> The truth is rarely pure and never simple Using The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5 MSI
Hi On Friday 2 October 2020 at 1:16:30 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Hello All, > MSI files of v9.2.5 release are available for download. > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_32_9-2-5.msi > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-2-5.msi Up and running. I didn't get the usual warnings from Windows 10 during installation and from Avast anti-virus on first run. My taskbar shortcut, as usual, stopped working and had to be replaced. But this isn't unique to The Bat! - some Firefox updates trigger the same issue. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Gypsy Dwarf Escapes Prison: Small Medium at large Using The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.3.4
Hi On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 1:13:34 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Version 9.2.3.4 is available Verify OpenPGP signatures is currently only working intermittently for me. I spotted this with v9.2.3 so I updated to v9.2.3.4 but the issue remains. When I click the button to verify the OpenPGP signature on a signed message, I seem to have two possible outcomes. 1. Sometimes, I get "Access violation at address 004AEF5B in module'thebat64.exe'. Read of address ." 2. Sometimes I get "OpenPGP verification Error" with an empty "Program output" window. I have also found that deleting the signature key from my keyring made a message switch from outcome 1 to outcome 2, and re-importing the signature key made the message switch back to outcome 1. The issue is with messages that are just signed, not encrypted. Can anybody confirm? -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure! Using The Bat! Version 9.2.3.4 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.3.4 Your OpenPGP key 0x2CB834DC4A705DC3 can not be found 🆗
Hi On Friday 18 September 2020 at 9:39:31 AM, in , Martin wrote:- > A little bit outside of the topic - but I don't find > a "dirmngr.conf" > in my fresh new GnuPG installation (made from gpg4win). The GnuPG installation doesn't provide an empty dirmngr.conf file. If you need/want one, you create it in the same directory as gpg.conf. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Roses smell better than onions but don't make such good soup Using The Bat! Version 9.2.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.3.4 Your OpenPGP key 0x2CB834DC4A705DC3 can not be found
Hi On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 6:03:01 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > I guess we need some help from gpg experts here > because it's not clear what's missing. > Currently, we're using this command line for > verfication: > 'C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuPG\bin\gpg.exe --batch > --display-charset utf-8 --armor --verify' The GnuPG website recommends that applications use the GPGME API rather than GnuPG's command line interface. https://gnupg.org/software/gpgme/index.html -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Coffee doesn't need a menu, it needs a cup. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.3.4 Your OpenPGP key 0x2CB834DC4A705DC3 can not be found 🆗
#Hi Gwen On Wednesday 16 September 2020 at 6:18:02 PM, you wrote: > So i need to use this server in gpg.conf this: > > keyserver hkps://keys.openpgp.org > According to https://gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/GPG-Configuration-Options.html#index-keyserver-1, "This option is deprecated - please use the --keyserver in dirmngr.conf instead." And I thought the default was changed to keys.openpgp.org last year in the light of the SKS keyserver attacks. So you shouldn't need to specify if you want to use that keyserver, at least until the default next changes. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Change is inevitable except from a vending machine Using The Bat! Version 9.2.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.9
Hi On Tuesday 1 September 2020 at 2:54:45 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > I'm afraid, you do not understand what plain text is > - it's just a raw text with no formatting hints other > than characters with variable widths and line breaks. I had forgotten that you can use a font in the plain text editor and/or viewer that is not fixed-width. > Tabs have no meaning for plain text with variable width > characters because there is no way to define tab stops. There's probably several. For example, Elastic Tabstops http://nickgravgaard.com/elastic-tabstops/ And TB!'s own "Plain text (Windows)" editor has tabs. > Paragraph indents and margins cannot be defined for > plain text either. I never saw the point of paragraph indents: the empty line before the new paragraph is enough of an indication. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Two rights do not make a wrong. They make an airplane. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.9 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.9
Hi On Wednesday 26 August 2020 at 2:29:51 PM, you wrote: > In soft wrapping mode it has no meaning. I disagree. If I insert a hard line-break by hitting at the end of a line and press at the start of the next line, it means that I want the text on that new line to start indented away from the window edge. It is reasonable to me that when the indented line soft-wraps, the continuation lines should honour the tab indent. The end of section I want indented comes when I insert another hard line-break by hitting again. And a mid-text (not immediately after a ) simply means that I want to insert a chunk of space at that point in the text. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Two rights do not make a wrong. They make an airplane. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.9 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.9
Hi On Wednesday 26 August 2020 at 12:33:18 PM, in , Andrew Savchenko wrote:- > doesn't work on empty line in MicroEd. Confirm that I see the same issue. Is there a bugtrack entry? > This is text with tabs > I had to type > in a separate text-editor > due to the issue with MicroEd To achieve that appearance in MicroEd I now have to type multiple spaces, instead of a single . A knock-on of this is that when you indent several consecutive lines, such as a quote, you have to use hard line-breaks, as below. The result looks terrible if viewed in a narrow window, with some lines beginning indented as intended and others beginning at the start of the window. Line 1 of quote Line 1 of quote. Line 1 of quote Line 1 of quote Line 1 of quote. Line 2 of quote Line 2 of quote. Quoted Line 2. Second line. Line 3 of quote Third quoted line. Line 3 of quote Third line of quote Line 3. Line 4 of quote Line 4 of quote. Quoted line number four. Fourth line 4 of quoted text. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Zorba the Greek - before he zorbas you Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.9 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo changs secure access to mail accounts
Hi On Thursday 27 August 2020 at 7:57:36 AM, in , Gwen wrote:- > Is deletion of Yahoo account in The Bat and adding > teh same enough? > Or do we need a extra password which has to be > generated? I tried re-adding a Yahoo account in The Bat!. Yahoo offered only IMAP settings. No POP at all, so no good to me. There was also a browser window pop-up part way through the process with Yahoo's log-in page, followed by one of those ridiculous "prove you are not a robot by ticking some of these photos" pages and then a page demanding that I give them a mobile phone number to abuse. A dreadful user experience, on top of which the "new" account failed to log on to check mail every time I tried it. Of course, YMMV. I gave up and picked Option 3, a "third-party app password" that you use from The Bat! instead of using the usual yahoo password. https://en-global.help.yahoo.com/kb/new-mail-for-desktop/learn-generate-third-party-passwords-sln15241.html Works for me at the moment (but so did just using the account password). No idea what Yahoo are planning to change or break in October. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.7 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4 Verify does not fetch missing OpenPGP key
Hi On Saturday 22 August 2020 at 1:00:04 PM, in , Gwen wrote:- > Oh, thanks for confirmation. > Can you report a bug at > https://bt.ritlabs.com/login_page.php and add such mail > to report? > I would like to confirm this issue in The Bat!. > Please leave the BT link here. The link is https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2070 When I was looking for an email to upload, I found one for which the OpenPGP key was automatically retrieved to verify the signature as well as the one for which it wasn't. Both are uploaded. "gpg --search-key B5AA3FA3486ED7AD" finds the key that was not automatically retrieved, just to prove it is available. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.7 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4 Verify does not fetch missing OpenPGP key
Hi On Wednesday 19 August 2020 at 7:06:35 PM, in , Gwen wrote:- > 32bit has a Bug with GnuPG! > Trying to check validity of a signed mail fails with > error popup. > The Bat! does not fetch a missing key? I had the same with 64 bit, trying to verify a signed message on Gnupg-users. I was able to fetch the key manually with GnuPG (but shouldn't have to as my gpg.conf contains auto-key-retrieve). -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Puns are bad but poetry is verse. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.4 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4
Hi On Thursday 20 August 2020 at 1:34:47 PM, in , Peter Hampf wrote:- > - Create a new message > - paste the Lore Ipsum text below in Microed. It must > not have any cr or cr/lf character combinations inside. > - important: adjust the window size (width) on a > wider screen so that you see 4 lines of text! Full screen on my 17 inch monitor, it's 5½ lines. > - place the cursor (with your mouse) at the beginning > of line 2, press the key. The screen will scroll > very fast to the right and back to the left and the > cursor will jump to the beginning of line 3! If I place the cursor at the start of line 5 and press , all the text jumps a couple of inches to the left and back again, and the cursor jumps to the start of line 6. And pressing the left key won't take me from the start of line 6 back onto line 5. For all other soft line-breaks except that one, the behaviour is as expected. For smaller window widths, I observed this issue with zero, one, or two soft line-breaks. It seems to be at the end of the longest lines but only if the end of the text in that line is very close to the edge of the window. > - try to position the cursor at the end of any line > and type some text. Cursormark and text insertion point > are NOT identical. I didn't manage to reproduce this issue. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Live your life as though every day it was your last. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2.4 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2 MSI
Hi On Monday 13 July 2020 at 9:56:33 PM, in , Jernej Simončič wrote:- > Pinned taskbar icon stopped working again. I get that as well, but not until the first re-boot after upgrading TB!. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Don't ask me, I'm making this up as I go! Using The Bat! Version 9.2.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker
Hi On Saturday 11 July 2020 at 5:18:31 PM, in , MAU wrote:- > That's reasonable. I've added a Wish to the issue tracker. https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2055 -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Those who do not read are no better off than those who cannot. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.3
Hi On Friday 10 July 2020 at 1:52:11 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Version 9.2.1.3 is available My rearrangement of toolbar buttons is still there the next time I start TB! but the "show toolbar captions" option is still lost each time. And I still see a strip of whitespace below the toolbars when bringing the main window back from minimised. (Well, not strictly white - more a pale buff colour.) -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> ETHERNET(n): device used to catch the Ether bunny Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.3
Hi On Friday 10 July 2020 at 4:52:42 PM, in , George Salnik wrote:- > For add button into toolbar see All actions - Mailer > form What's the difference between the two items listed as "Menu Navigator" and "bMenu Navigator"? (This is not new, they were both there in 9.2.0 or previous but I never thought to ask.) -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.3
Hi On Friday 10 July 2020 at 3:22:12 PM, in , MAU wrote:- > No warning about using a Beta when > starting it. Or isn't > this a beta? Confirm I also didn't get the warning about using a Beta. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> War is a matter of vital importance to the State. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.2
Hi On Friday 10 July 2020 at 6:08:02 AM, in , Alexander Petrari wrote:- > The Menu Navigator and Inbox Analyzer have been > removed from the program starting with v9.2.1.2. I never understood the point of the Inbox Analyzer. On the other hand, the Menu Navigator was a great tool. Not needed often, but a real time-saver on the odd occasions I needed it. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.2 MailTicker
Hi On Friday 10 July 2020 at 10:49:05 AM, in , MAU wrote:- > But it doesn't need to be 'Always on top'. And if it is, you can shrink it to quite a small size and put it in an unobtrusive position on the screen. > However, if you are only > interested in the unread count, that is only > shown once al the > messages have scrolled. I would prefer for the Mail Ticker's unread mail count to be shown on a non-scrolling fragment at one end. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.2
Hi On Thursday 9 July 2020 at 12:30:53 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > We're considering this, although the general approach > is not to add > new options and try to figure reasonable defaults... To me, it would make sense for the new message counter to follow the same folder settings and age limits as the Mail Ticker. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Don't be silly, it's all "make believe" anyway Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI / Toolbar customisations lost?
Hi On Saturday 4 July 2020 at 12:35:45 PM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote:- >>> I see. This means that the configuration I have >>> now will persist. It >>> will not go back to factory default, right? My menu customisations from before were gone on upgrading. I re-did them but the next time I started TB! they were gone again. > -- Your cut mark didn't work because its trailing space is missing. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Learning without thought is naught; thought without learning is dangerous. Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI
Hi On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - > - make fixes for GnuPG interaction Yay! > - add dark theme support I set mine up like the attached screenshot years ago using colour groups and viewer/editor settings. It would be good to have the menus and headers and the attachments pane darker. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI
Hi On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - Just tried to use "menu navigator" in a "separate message viewer" folder window but the menu navigator window does not appear. (Works fine in the main window, message editor window, and message finder window.) -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. (Tacitus) Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI
Hi On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - I just noticed that when I click the button to download external content for an HTML message, the view of the message reverts to the text tab. To see the message with the downloaded external content, I have to click on the HTML tab again. (That's with Download external media set to Manually, plus View HTML messages using: Plain Text version and HTML.) -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.0 MSI
Hi On Friday 3 July 2020 at 10:59:32 AM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Could you please send me screen shots of the dialog > windows you have? I was sure I saw it yesterday but today I don't see Internal PGP implementation. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> I'll tell you what's the matter! This parrot is dead! Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI
Hi On Wednesday 1 July 2020 at 4:58:44 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > Dear All, > Here are the final MSIs of the 9.2.1 release - My toolbar customisations are lost when I close and re-start TB! The space below the toolbars that appears on returning the main window from minimised goes away on toggling the "show button captions" checkbox. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1.0 MSI
Hi On Tuesday 30 June 2020 at 4:17:26 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > [-] (#0001832) Inactive Internal PGP implementation > was displayed Here, it still is. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> He's an environmentalist - his arguments are 100% recycled Using The Bat! Version 9.2.1 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kinda roadmap ;)
Hi On Monday 1 June 2020 at 10:48:18 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top > PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones) 1. 0001239: You receive an openPGP-encrypted and signed email. You have a key to decrypt but not a key to verify the signature. TB! won't show you the decrypted message. 2. 839: You have "Confirm unencrypted sending" selected under account properties. TB! makes you confirm for every message sent from that account, including the encrypted ones. 3. 724: TB! won't decrypt openPGP notifications from Facebook. When you try, a dialog box appears requesting a filename to save an attachment. 4. 0001665: Can't highlight and copy just the version number from Help/About pop-up. 5. 0001435: Incorrect display of "From" column in message list for Yahoo Group messages [and messages from certain other mailing lists] 6. 0001242: TB! gives useless error message when OpenPGP key that signed a message cannot be found. 7. 0001832: PGP: Internal implementation still visible in "Select OpenPGP implementation" dialogue This one should be a quick win. 8. [0002443 in 2004 and 0006182 in 2007, can't reference in current bug tracker]: You are composing a message that you have set to be openPGP-signed and/or encrypted on completion. You save your message as a draft. When you return to editing it later, the requirements to sign or encrypt on completion are no longer set. Also, the bt.ritlabs.com logon page asks for only the username and loads a new page before allowing me to enter the password. This is an irritating waste of time. -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Was time invented by an Irishman named O'Clock? Using The Bat! Version 9.1.18 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html