Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Kertész, On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:31:56 +0100 GMT (12/01/2009, 09:31 +0700 GMT), Kertész Vilmos wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. KV It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, KV it is a useful feature, use regularly. As has become clear in the meantime, the Quicksearch has more functions that first meets the eye. -- Cheers, Thomas. Hier abgesellte Fahrzeuge werden brutal zerlegt!!! * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. KV It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, KV it is a useful feature, use regularly. As has become clear in the meantime, the Quicksearch has more functions that first meets the eye. This is from the help: Quick Search Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected in the list; type on for further refinement. If the next letter you type has no match in the list it is automatically removed from the search string. The selection prevales. 1. Go to View-Toolbars-Quick Search 2. Type your search string into the Search field 3. Press Ctrl+Enter to find the next message with the same search string 4. Shift+Ctrl+Enter takes you back to the previous result 5. Press Enter to invoke a Quick Filter using the Quick Search string. Only messages matching the Quick Search are now shown. 6. Press Ctrl+= or Esc to remove the Quick Filter. Note: To get to the Quick Search toolbar you can also right-click on the the toolbar dock and choose it from the pop-up menu. Note: Quick Search also works when its toolbar is not visible. Beware: Quick Search works on a selected folder/account only! Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, Sunday, January 11, 2009, 5:19:34 AM, you wrote: filtering system. However, I have a need to find not necessarily the first message confirming to the search criterion. How about using Ctrl+Enter? If you don't know it already (it's semi-standard, this or Alt+Enter), just right-click the search box to see all available options. -- Best regards, Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, M Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with M a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate M message with a non empty memo by typing (see my M mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword M in Memo, or... Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? Or clicking on the arrows on both sides of the search box? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:21:49 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 17:21 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. Have you tried to type Enter after the search string? M Or clicking on the arrows on both sides of the search box? In fact, no. Thanks for the tip, it now works like alt-click! That's neat and makes it useful for me too. -- Cheers, Thomas. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, it now works like alt-click! Similar, but not exactly like. If you Alt+click on an I love TB's IMAP subject, you will only get messages with that subject. But if you quick search for IMAP and hit enter, you will get those messages and also those that may have I'm pissed off with TB's IMAP as a subject. :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:09:40 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 18:09 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: it now works like alt-click! M Similar, but not exactly like. If you Alt+click on an I love TB's IMAP M subject, you will only get messages with that subject. But if you quick M search for IMAP and hit enter, you will get those messages and also M those that may have I'm pissed off with TB's IMAP as a subject. :) This is getting into the TBUDL realm, but if I search for love I wouldn't want any results to show p*ssed off. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Pille fuer den Mann wurde bei 2 000 Maennern getestet. Und tatsaechlich - keiner von ihnen bekam ein Kind! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, it is a useful feature, use regularly. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:21:33 +0100 GMT (09/01/2009, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. -- Cheers, Thomas. The save icon on Microsoft Word shows a floppy disk, with the shutter on backwards. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate message with a non empty memo by typing ** (see my mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword in Memo, or... I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. Are you aware that Quick search only does so in the fields (columns) currently displayed in the message list? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, ... by typing ** If you were using RTV when reading my message, you probably didn't see the two stars. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Samstag, 10. Januar 2009 at 17:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. Well, i use it, as i search for a mail i know it must be there - but i can not find, because i get hundreds of Mail each day. Normally i need to have more results (all) and also use the real search. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9.1 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.191.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:40:57 +0700GMT (10-1-2009, 17:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. TF Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use TF Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to TF find what I was looking for. As I generally know where a message is (I understand my own filtering system) I go to the right folder and type what I'm looking for. I hardly use the real search. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpJRxjvwsx4u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello MAU, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:42:01 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 00:42 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? M Certainly, quite useful. Aside of trying to easily locate messages with M a certain subject, or messages from Thomas, I also use it to locate M message with a non empty memo by typing ** (see my M mid:1283102278.20090110013...@rancho-k.com) or with a certain keyword M in Memo, or... Yes, but the problem is that it only shows the fuirst occurrence of the search string. That is usually not the message I am looking for, and I don't remember enough to type in a unique string - or a unique string does not exist. For example, I remember sender name and part of the subject, but there was a whole thread about this issue, so the real search will show me all those messages, the quick search only the first. I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. M Are you aware that Quick search only does so in the fields (columns) M currently displayed in the message list? Yes. The real search can also be limited to fields, I have Header, Sender and Subject always open and only fill in the one I want to search now. (I am using the PTV and saw your asterisks above.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Jens, On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:38:06 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 03:38 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. JF Well, i use it, as i search for a mail i know it must be there - but i JF can not find, because i get hundreds of Mail each day. OK, so you, like MAU, find it useful. I was just asking. JF Normally i need to have more results (all) and also use the real JF search. Yes, that is my usualy need. -- Cheers, Thomas. Personnel executives of 100 major corporations were asked for stories of unusual behavior by job applicants. 5. Interrupted to phone his therapist for advice on answering specific interview questions. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:20:40 +0100 GMT (11/01/2009, 06:20 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use TF Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to TF find what I was looking for. RO As I generally know where a message is (I understand my own filtering RO system) I go to the right folder and type what I'm looking for. I RO hardly use the real search. Thanks for the implication: Actually, I too understand my own filtering system. However, I have a need to find not necessarily the first message confirming to the search criterion. -- Cheers, Thomas. If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello The Bat! Beta Tester, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Jens, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. That's default behaviour. If you press Esc while focus (cursor) is in search box (field), the toolbar disappears whether it was docked or floating. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Jens, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:55:40 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 12:55 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JF i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying JF to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search JF Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone Yes, great feature, I use it all the time after I've used the quick search as I've disabled all toolbars, works that way since v1 JF and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. No, not necessary. Simply start typing while you've got the focus on the message list pane. Just make sure that you don't start with a character that you're using as a shortcut. -- Groetjes, Roelof Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows95. - Satan http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgprlVBuUCBZR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:19, MAU wrote: Hello Jens, i missed my Quicksearch Toolbar in the Icons-Menue above, while trying to find out, why it dissapeared i pressed ESC while in the Search Field - and the whole Toolbar is gone and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. That's default behaviour. If you press Esc while focus (cursor) is in search box (field), the toolbar disappears whether it was docked or floating. I would expect the behaviour to be Clear the current search. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 13:20, Roelof Otten wrote: JF and has to be switched on again in the View/Toolbars. No, not necessary. Simply start typing while you've got the focus on the message list pane. Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hallo Jens, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:04:18 +0100GMT (9-1-2009, 14:04 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? No, of course not, it is there: ,- [ ] | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected | in the list; type on for further refinement. | | If the next letter you type has no match in the list it is | automatically removed from the search string. The selection prevales. | | 1. Go to View-Toolbars-Quick Search | | 2. Type your search string into the Search field | | 3. Press Ctrl+Enter to find the next message with the same search string | | 4. Shift+Ctrl+Enter takes you back to the previous result | | 5. Press Enter to invoke a Quick Filter using the Quick Search | string. Only messages matching the Quick Search are now shown. | | 6. Press Ctrl+= or Esc to remove the Quick Filter. | | Note: To get to the Quick Search toolbar you can also right-click on | the the toolbar dock and choose it from the pop-up menu. | | Note: Quick Search also works when its toolbar is not visible. | | Beware: Quick Search works on a selected folder/account only! `- -- Groetjes, Roelof Encyclopedias for sale. Never used. I know everything. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpYUDjj3Irib.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Roelof, JF Ok, that solves the problem again - we should write the Docu too? No, of course not, it is there: We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it does include a lot of information. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Freitag, 9. Januar 2009 at 14:48, MAU wrote: We all forget to RTFM sometimes ;) TB's Help is far from perfect but it does include a lot of information. If you find it... Or maybe it's to long ago i did read the Manual? -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.9 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
