Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-30 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:41:03 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I am not sure, but I think we bought it on Thursdays. With the schedule starting Saturdays. Or thereabouts. Here in Thailand, we have monthly schedules for cable, and daily (in the newspapers) for terrestrial TV. So you see my

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:05:30 +0200 GMT (29/11/2004, 10:05 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: [ISO] Their intention is to create standards which will lead to easy understanding across cultures. For example in the air transport industry, everybody knows that day 1 is Monday, and no

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:09:43 +0200 GMT (12/11/2004, 02:09 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY Thomas, if we are going to get down to such detail, then in Hebrew, AY Sunday is Yom Rishon (First Day). Sunday being the first day of the week is also what I grew up with. It turned out that

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-28 Thread Avi Yashar
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:30:34 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Sunday being the first day of the week is also what I grew up with. It turned out that most countries use another way of counting, namely starting with Monday. I have no religious association with any day of the week, and since

Late receipt of message (was:3.0.2.5 is awesome)

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul, On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 21:54:38 + GMT (08/11/2004, 04:54 +0700 GMT), Paul White wrote: PW On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 16:14 (UK time), I said: PW Aha, the message turned up then, over FIVE hours late. :) Not here. First Received header: PW Received: from

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maurice, On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:56:45 +0100 GMT (10/11/2004, 13:56 +0700 GMT), Maurice Snellen wrote: MS In most germanic languages and even in English (anglo-saxon), the MS names of the days are derived from nature and scandinavian gods. MS Other languages may have the same, but I'm not

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:18:13 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: In Chinese, Monday is called Day-one, Tuesday is Day-two. There is an exception to the rule on the weekend, I forgot. Thomas, if we are going to get down to such detail, then in Hebrew, Sunday is Yom Rishon (First Day). The numbering

Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Monday, November 08, 2004, 6:25 PM, you wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences.

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:01:42 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences. I'm

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:24 AM, you wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and AY let's not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting AY under Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences.

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 4:24:56 PM you wrote: Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dierk! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote: AV Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first AV posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' AV (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and AV 'sunday' (wrong case) become the

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it? - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 10:00 AM, you wrote: SH Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it? No, I don't think so, myself. It's the philosophical underpinning as to what should be available in The Bat!'s Scheduler. Do you not agree? -- Best regards, Mary The

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MB Do you not agree? No not really. The point was covered when someone suggested that the start of the week should be configurable. Maybe I'm being short but I've just lived through this same discussion on my online conferencing system about their

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dennis Hays
Quoting Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Dierk! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote: --snipped- I just thought that those to whom it does seem important should have a choice. As I said to Avi, just now. :) What I determine to be said here,

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2004-11-09 at 16:57:38 Mary Bull wrote: In my fundamentalist Christian upbringing I was taught that Sunday is the first day of the week. A scripture was quoted to justify having the communion service on Sunday: I'm not a Christian (IANAC :), but Genesis 2 seems to say (after the creation

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dimitry! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 12:44 PM, you wrote: DA How much more plain would you like it? :) :) DA Anyway, it should be configurable of course, since this tends to DA differ by country, AFAICS. Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's going to do

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 10:21:35 AM, Stuart Hemming wrote: Let's just post a wish on BT for it to be configurable and move on. I guess the world could be a better place if everyone could decide they were ready to move on at the same time. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:45:45 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from Jews - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was obviously misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting day! Dierk, I think this discussion tends to go

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's going to do it and is it a Wish? The spelling is a mistake. The numbering seems to be a limitation (and an annoyance). But as spelling and many of the various GUI goofs are

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: MB Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, MB who's going to do it and is it a Wish? AY The spelling is a mistake. ... The spelling has been corrected in v. 3.0.2.6 . So the programmers are reading us. AY The

Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 17:24 (which was Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 16:24 where I am) Avi Yashar wrote: I do *not* think that Ritlabs should follow the ISO standard on this point. I personally think that the ISO standard here is entirely philistine and likely to offend the

Re[3]: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Michael, On Sunday, November 7, 2004 14:24 your local time, which was 22:24 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; MLW I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it MLW needs to be released. I have had no problems. I've received a few AV's here, so not stable on my

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Michael, A reminder of what Michael L. Wilson typed on: 07 November 2004 at 23:26:22 GMT +0100 MLW My reply... MLW Perhaps your OS is corrupted? As is everyone's who's using Winders :) -- Best regards,Tony. _

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 2004-11-07 (09:52), you wrote: I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. But I have problems: CC after retrieving 100% of messages hangs up - connection is not closed and new email are not in inbox. I must kill

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi Michael, old message... My reply... Can you please use another form of reply? This one always irritates me. As you seem to use a reply template try this one: Hi %FROMNAME, %Cursor %Quotes -- Michael -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP Service Pack 2

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi Michael, I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. Well, I have. IMAP is still kind of broken. Every now and then messages I just read get unread. A folder very I deleted all messages using the webinterface at work,

Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: 3.0.2.5 is awesome)

2004-11-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:24:54 -0800GMT (7-11-2004, 23:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MLW old message... Hi Michael, On Sunday, November 7, 2004 00:52 your local time, which was 08:52 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; moderator Note: This moderator's interjection

Re[2]: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Gonalo Farias
AY On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:25:09 +0100, Jurgen Haug wrote: It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and religions may have different views. Same in Germany, first day of the week is Monday, last day (Wochenende = week-end) is Sunday. right, and

Re: Re[2]: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Avi Yashar
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:09:38 +, Gonçalo Farias wrote: Why not just follow what MS-Windows 'date and time properties' window shows? That way TheBat! will remain consistent with the OS. For instance, mine starts with Monday but I don't know if it changes with the regional settings.

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 00:29:52 [UTC+0200] (Monday, November 8, 2004 23:29 my local time) Avi Yashar wrote: For instance, mine starts with Monday but I don't know if it changes with the regional settings. My Control Panel calendar (under Date Time Properties starts with Sunday,

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-08 Thread Avi Yashar
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:47:46 +0100, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: Very interesting discussions on calendars can be found at http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/calendar/isocalendar.htm ISO defined strict numbering of weeks, days of week, etc. I think it should be used (and probably is) in The Bat! to

3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Michael L. Wilson
TB BETA ERS, I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Michael! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 9:52:21 AM you wrote: I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. As the list traffic over the past few days has shown, there are some (major) problems with this version. Not

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Michael, A reminder of what Michael L. Wilson typed on: 07 November 2004 at 09:54:54 GMT +0100 MLW I love this program and this is a very stable version. I do too. MLW I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. Not until the backup and encryption issue is sorted

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Sean Rima
Michael, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 8:52:21 AM, you wrote: TB BETA ERS, I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. Same here excellent job I would say :grin: Sean -- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 679813 YAHOO:

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Clive Taylor
I love this program and this is a very stable version. Not here it's not! Too many AVs to even consider a release. -- Regards Clive Taylor Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Paul White
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 08:52 (UK time), Michael L. Wilson said: I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. What, no smiley? :) The lack of common filters for me (and several others) is a serious bug introduced in

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Avi Yashar
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:34:59 +, Paul White wrote: As Ritlabs are still introducing features to the 3.0.2 series it can hardly be ready for release can it? Certainly not, Paul! There are still numerous bugs. On top of that, how can a release go out with that bizarre Anothe settings under

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Avi! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 4:03:20 PM you wrote: IMHO, if something like this were to go out with untested and unpolished new features, then it would make a mockery of a brilliant round of beta testing. Just to get that straight: It was Michael Wilson blaring out about a

Re[2]: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, November 7, 2004, Dierk Haasis wrote: IMHO, if something like this were to go out with untested and unpolished new features, then it would make a mockery of a brilliant round of beta testing. Just to get that straight: It was Michael Wilson blaring out about a possible

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Michael, On Sunday, November 7, 2004 00:52 your local time, which was 08:52 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; MLW I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it MLW needs to be released. I have had no problems. I've received a few AV's here, so not stable on my

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hi, I'm missing some messages... for example, Avi replies to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I don't have that message. Is it a problem on my end or are other missing messages, too? Not happened until yesterday... when I installed 3.0.2.5... hmmm... :-? -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread MAU
Hello Dierk, I don't have the impression that Stefan, Maxim and the lot are contemplating a release at the moment, not this week or the next, I guess. I believe they said this beta cycle was for the Xmas release. At least that is what I understood in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Stephan. --

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Paul White
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 15:03 (UK time), Avi Yashar said: Since when has manday (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and sunday (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Paul White
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 17:13 (UK time), Alexander S. Kunz said: I'm missing some messages... for example, Avi replies to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I don't have that message. Is it a problem on my end or are other missing messages, too? Not happened until yesterday... when I installed

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Paul! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 9:06:10 PM you wrote: Since when has manday (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and sunday (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities

RE:3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Dierk, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 9:31:14 PM, you wrote: It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and religions may have different views. Same in Germany, first day of the week is Monday, last day (Wochenende = week-end) is Sunday. right, and as

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Paul White
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 15:03 (UK time), Avi Yashar said: Since when has manday (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and sunday (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jürgen! On Sunday, November 07, 2004, 3:25 PM, you wrote: PW It always has been where I come from although people of different PW nationalities and religions may have different views. DH Same in Germany, first day of the week is Monday, last day DH (Wochenende = week-end) is Sunday. JH

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Paul White everyone else 07-Nov-2004 21:11, you wrote: I'm missing some messages... for example, Avi replies to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I don't have that message. Is it a problem on my end or are other missing messages, too? Not happened until yesterday... when I installed

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Michael L. Wilson everyone else 07-Nov-2004 09:52, you wrote: I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it needs to be released. I have had no problems. Where's the wishlist entry for the ignore thread option, please? -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Alexander, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 3:35:10 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Alexander, one of my messages didn't make it to the list and another took over an hour to come back to me. Is my ISP losing my mail? Or is the problem with the list server? I don't know. By now it is a couple of

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Paul White
On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 16:14 (UK time), I said: It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and religions may have different views. Aha, the message turned up then, over FIVE hours late. :) -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.2.5 (Home Edition) on

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Sunday, November 7, 2004, 22:33, Mary Bull wrote: It's such a pleasure to wake up to coffee and these TB! mailing lists every morning. :) You do not call 15:33 morning, do you? :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Marcus! On Sunday, November 07, 2004, 4:00 PM, you wrote: MB It's such a pleasure to wake up to coffee and these TB! mailing MB lists every morning. :) MO You do not call 15:33 morning, do you? No, no! 5:00 a.m. CST, USA, is morning, here. But that delight informs my entire day, so that

Re[2]: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Hello Chris, old message... Hi Michael, On Sunday, November 7, 2004 00:52 your local time, which was 08:52 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; MLW I love this program and this is a very stable version. I think it MLW needs to be released. I have had no problems. I've received a

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Avi Yashar
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:25:09 +0100, Jurgen Haug wrote: It always has been where I come from although people of different nationalities and religions may have different views. Same in Germany, first day of the week is Monday, last day (Wochenende = week-end) is Sunday. right, and as

Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome

2004-11-07 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Michael L. Wilson - On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, at 14:24:54 [GMT -0800] (which was 2:24 PM where I live) you wrote: Perhaps your OS is corrupted? Perhaps it isn't and there are still bugs. I get various AV's and our test bed is a virgin system so the OS