Re: 9.3.0.1 HTML rendering
Title: Re: 9.3.0.1 HTML rendering Hello Stefan, On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 08:40:43 +0200 GMT (10-Nov-20, 13:40 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: Version 9.3.0.1 MSI with some hotfixes is available from https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-3-0-1.msi HTML rendering of the troubled messages is faster now. This is at my home wifi (not the fastest in the world) and home computer (only 3GB RAM). I will let you know when I have installed this version on my work laptop (after release) and with a fast internet connection. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.0.1 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
T> Good point, but we all use the same firewall / anti-virus The question is if they treat Outlook and The Bat the same or not. Anyway, let's see first if Ritlabs can reproduce your delay. Best, -Daniel- 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Daniel, On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 01:11:40 +0100 GMT (29-Oct-20, 07:11 +0700 GMT), Daniel van Rooijen wrote: T>> However, it is more a workaround than the fix of the problem. > My suggestion was not specific to your problem. Servers and connections > can be slow, unresponsive or unavailable at any time and this is not > under The Bat's control. Pre-rendering would be the best solution to > address that; it would allow the user to read the message right away. > I'm not sure how feasible it would be to implement though, because not > all dimensions of the images may be known until the images (or their > headers) have been downloaded. > As to your problem, delays like this can also be caused or triggered by > firewall and antivirus software. Good point, but we all use the same firewall / anti-virus according to company policy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
T> However, it is more a workaround than the fix of the problem. My suggestion was not specific to your problem. Servers and connections can be slow, unresponsive or unavailable at any time and this is not under The Bat's control. Pre-rendering would be the best solution to address that; it would allow the user to read the message right away. I'm not sure how feasible it would be to implement though, because not all dimensions of the images may be known until the images (or their headers) have been downloaded. As to your problem, delays like this can also be caused or triggered by firewall and antivirus software. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Daniel, On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 23:43:39 +0100 GMT (29-Oct-20, 5:43 +0700 GMT), Daniel van Rooijen wrote: >>> It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, >>> and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. S>> From what I see, the problem is not with HTML itself, it contains S>> images from external links and they are downloaded slow here so on a S>> slow connection it can be a killer. > Wouldn't it be possible to pre-render slow pages quickly with > place-holder images, until the full images have been retrieved? At least that would not freeze TB! for the duration, I guess. However, it is more a workaround than the fix of the problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:52:10 +0200 GMT (28-Oct-20, 21:52 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, >> and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. > From what I see, the problem is not with HTML itself, it contains images from > external links and they are downloaded slow here so on a slow connection it > can be a killer. My colleagues using Outlook have exactly the same connection as me and the other colleagues who use TB!. EVerybody with TB! experiences the same delay, so it is not the hardware. > What I have not figured out yet is why those images are not cached by CEF > even when file cache is enabled. There are several reasons: a) we should dig > deeper into CEF options or b) cache is disabled by the site where those > images are hosted (in this case see a ). Please try this direction. I don't know whether the people who use Outlook had to wait long when they received the first circular but don't remember that, and now Outlook has it in chace and that's why they don't need to wait long any more now. Makes sense. I don't think the cash is disabled at the host site, otherwise they would be disabled for all email clients - if that really is the problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
>> It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, >> and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. S> From what I see, the problem is not with HTML itself, it contains S> images from external links and they are downloaded slow here so on a S> slow connection it can be a killer. Wouldn't it be possible to pre-render slow pages quickly with place-holder images, until the full images have been retrieved? Regards, -Daniel- 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Thomas, > It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, > and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. From what I see, the problem is not with HTML itself, it contains images from external links and they are downloaded slow here so on a slow connection it can be a killer. What I have not figured out yet is why those images are not cached by CEF even when file cache is enabled. There are several reasons: a) we should dig deeper into CEF options or b) cache is disabled by the site where those images are hosted (in this case see a ). -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgpbyGzXD_XvH.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Howdy! Вы писали 27 октября 2020 г., 10:55:54: > I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go > into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. I really don't have now any soft that I use it every day with white theme. Religion here to think that only white themes can be alive. And nor I nor others who's use it TB! now with "dark force" don't want go back to using white theme. > It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, > and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. > I think there is a difference. I do receive it many emails (usually few hundreds in a day) and never seen 1 minute to open email in the TB! Can you send me example? geo...@belrus.info Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:43:03 +0200 GMT (27-Oct-20, 22:43 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Thomas, >> I have sent you two company emails with which TB! has problems rendering. >> Could you kindly look into this? > I actually replied yesterday. I only received it this morning. The delay may be a GMX thing, as they are "improving" their anti-spam system at the moment. > Looks like images from the last message was downloaded with slow speed. The > first message is rendered immediately here, so I'm wondering about the > hardware... Same hardware renders the same email much faster in Outlook. > To fix problem with slow sties, we are going to use file caching in the next > Beta, we'll see how it goes. I see some performance improvements with file > cache already, so it'll stay anyway, I guess. That might be a workaround, as these circulars always have the same pictures. However, Outlook renders them fast even on the first attempt, so my guess is that there is something in the code that slows it down. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:16:43 +0200 GMT (28-Oct-20, 0:16 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go >> into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. > It's about visual comfort. We used dark theme similar to ChokoDark in Dos > Navigator back in 1992, long before dark themes become a trend. The Bat! had > a non-white default background for similar reasons, so this buzz about dark > themes is not just a toy :-) Well noted about the comfort, but I think being able to use TB! for work is important enough to honour the reason why I started this thread. TB! is now greatly decreasing efficiency. If this is not fixed, my company will have to move on. I wouldn't help if TB! became a very comfortable and inefficient email client. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Thomas, > I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go > into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. It's about visual comfort. We used dark theme similar to ChokoDark in Dos Navigator back in 1992, long before dark themes become a trend. The Bat! had a non-white default background for similar reasons, so this buzz about dark themes is not just a toy :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgpTkxsnpEXpO.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello Thomas, > I have sent you two company emails with which TB! has problems rendering. > Could you kindly look into this? I actually replied yesterday. Looks like images from the last message was downloaded with slow speed. The first message is rendered immediately here, so I'm wondering about the hardware... To fix problem with slow sties, we are going to use file caching in the next Beta, we'll see how it goes. I see some performance improvements with file cache already, so it'll stay anyway, I guess. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov pgptPMvKIdnfP.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Hello George, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:16:57 +0300 GMT (27-Oct-20, 14:16 +0700 GMT), George Salnik wrote: [You skipped the import part, namely that the HTML rendering needs urgent attention] >> I see the colour schemes as a toy and less important than usability in a >> real working environment. > 1) Toy that up my speed of work. Stop works of that feature will be strange. > We need release without some child bugs. I am sure you can still read emails without fancy colours. But let's not go into this - you seem to be quite religious about it. > 2) TB! Use it Chromium core now. Is your email looks equal bad in the Chrome > or another chromium browser? It takes a full minute to render. Slows down work to an unacceptable time, and freezes TB! during that time. It totally interrupts the work flow. I think there is a difference. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML rendering
Howdy! Вы писали 27 октября 2020 г., 3:13:09: > I see the colour schemes as a toy and less important than usability in a real > working environment. 1) Toy that up my speed of work. Stop works of that feature will be strange. We need release without some child bugs. 2) TB! Use it Chromium core now. Is your email looks equal bad in the Chrome or another chromium browser? Best Regards, George Salnik RitLabs Russian Forum Moderator 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, I have sent you two company emails with which TB! has problems rendering. Could you kindly look into this? Correct and efficient HTML rendering is important for actual work. My colleagues want to move to Outlook now (one already has, and says he has no problems with these HTML mails). I see the colour schemes as a toy and less important than usability in a real working environment. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.5.3 - HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 14:10:53 +0300 GMT (16-Oct-20, 18:10 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.2.5.3-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [*] Smoother loading of HTML messages (we hope) No improvement. In fact, it seems to be even slower to render certain emails. I will send you one by PM. The email contains some confidential company information, so I cannot post it here. You will see that it takes a minute to open. My colleagues, who receive the same email and use Outlook, can see it immediately. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.5.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.0.3 HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 19:13:37 +0300 GMT (17-Jun-20, 23:13 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Andrew, >> Lowering the stakes, how about a stable build just without the Chromium? > Nope, sorry. Moving to CEF is one of the key points of the coming > release, so we need to deal with the problems caused by introducing > it now and I don't see why we cannot overcome it. FWIW I was so annoyed with the previous implementation of HTML, that I am now considering whether to change my work machine to this beta - I would usually never run a beta version of any software on my work machine. The new HTML viewer still has some quirks, but I am sure we can work this out before the next release. that's what the beta series is for. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.2.0.3 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello TBBETA Members! anybody remember the thread on certain HTML-messages being rendered far to the right by TB? Well, the problem got more annoying, probably because of the new Image Downloader: When I move the horizontal scroll bar such that the actual contents of the message is centre, so I can read it, it jumpd back after a very short moment. Please, RITLabs, make this a priority fix. Thank you! -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.26.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Technique is important only insofar as you must master it in order to communicate what you see... In any case, people think far too much about techniques and not enough about seeing. [Henri Cartier-Bresson] Current beta is 5.0.26.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello Dierk, I haven't been following this thread very closely, but the Amazon message does appear centred but in a very wide frame. I have noticed this in many other HTML emails. How does TB determine what the page width is. Most browsers use their window size and then flow the content inside the window as much as the HTML will allow unless there is absolute positioning. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello Sean! On Friday, September 2, 2011 at 7:50:38 AM you wrote: I get emails from play.com and they render far too much to the right of the screen, so much they bleed off. Same here with the occasional Amazon offer [not sure which, Germany, UK, or US or which of them]. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Chat info upon request Auch ein anständiger Mensch kann, vorausgesetzt, dass es nie herauskommt, sich heutzutage einen geachteten Namen schaffen. [Karl Kraus] Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello Dierk, On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:57:24 +0200 GMT (02/Sep/11, 12:57 PM +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: I get emails from play.com and they render far too much to the right of the screen, so much they bleed off. DH Same here with the occasional Amazon offer [not sure which, Germany, DH UK, or US or which of them]. A MIME-forward (or uploading to somewhere and producing the link) would be useful, so that people can verify. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad HTML rendering
Hello Sean, On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 06:50:38 +0100 GMT (02/Sep/11, 12:50 PM +0700 GMT), Sean Rima wrote: SR I get emails from play.com and they render far too much to the right SR of the screen, so much they bleed off. SR example: http://z.thecivvie.org/o7ewNN Please forward the original mail (MIME-attached). -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bad HTML rendering
Hello Tbbeta, I get emails from play.com and they render far too much to the right of the screen, so much they bleed off. example: http://z.thecivvie.org/o7ewNN Sean -- .tel http://rima.tel/ Google+ http://gplus.to/thecivvie I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong On Windows 7 7601 Service Pack 1 using TheBat 5.0.22.12 (ALPHA) pgpa6Ns4FtUd7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.22.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.14.2 HTML rendering
Hello all, Friday, December 25, 2009, Thomas Fernandez wrote: MM [-] (#0007696) same HTMLs dissappears after a second Appears to be fixed over here. confirm, I have resolved issue in Bugtraq already. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.14.2 HTML rendering
Hello Maxim, On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:40:01 +0200 GMT (25/Dec/09, 0:40 AM +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42142.rar MM What's new in 4.2.14.2 since 4.2.13.8 released on 19-Dec-2009? MM [-] (#0007696) same HTMLs dissappears after a second Appears to be fixed over here. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.13.8 HTML rendering
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:03:32 +0200 GMT (19/Dec/09, 17:03 PM +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST What's new in 4.2.13.8 since 4.2.13.7: Bug 0007775: Impropering rendering of some HTML images: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 Seems to be fixed over here. Any confirmations? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.13.8 ALPHA under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.13.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Rendering is incorrect
I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 attachment: preview.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hello all, Wednesday, January 16, 2008, Robert van der Hulst wrote: I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. not confirmed, screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM attachment: message.gif Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Marek, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 14:01:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:01 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. not confirmed, screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hello Robert, Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 7:29:37 AM, you wrote: My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. Is it possible you have disallowed some of the links in the URL manager? -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Stuart, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 08:25:35 [GMT -0600] (which was 15:25 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. Is it possible you have disallowed some of the links in the URL manager? I checkd and that is not the case. It also doesn't explain why I am seeing parts of the html body as literal text. I would expect missing images in that case. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Het was woensdag 16 januari 2008 om 15:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' : Hallo Stuart, My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. SC Is it possible you have disallowed some of the links in the URL SC manager? shouldn't that manager be accessible through right-clicking the html-tab? Another thing, actually _where_ can I find the url-manager? -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. __ The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3, v.3244 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Marek, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 14:01:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:01 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. not confirmed, screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 Ok I found the problem: If you enable 'Use smileys in HTML Viewer' the image is corrupted. If you disable this option the image looks fine. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Robert, on Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:15:03 +0100GMT (16.01.2008, 21:15 +0100GMT here), you wrote: RvdH Ok I found the problem: RvdH If you enable 'Use smileys in HTML Viewer' the image is corrupted. If RvdH you disable this option the image looks fine. I have enabled Smileys since long ago and still your MSG displays quite fine. This applies also to my notebook running Win2K with OTFE enabled. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hello, Robert. On the sixteenth January 2008 You wrote: Ok I found the problem: If you enable 'Use smileys in HTML Viewer' the image is corrupted. If you disable this option the image looks fine. This is a problem with Your txt2html.regexps file (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Could You send to me this file? I can find and correct errors. -- Pozdrawiam Konrad Szkudlarczyk -- Frytka atakuje! Zobacz http://link.interia.pl/f1cdd Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Konrad, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 22:22:07 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:22 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' This is a problem with Your txt2html.regexps file (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Could You send to me this file? I can find and correct errors. Yes, that is it. I have renamed the file and now everything works as expected. Thanks for this. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hello Peter, Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 10:12:30 PM, you wrote: PM I have enabled Smileys since long ago and still your MSG displays PM quite fine. This applies also to my notebook running Win2K with OTFE PM enabled. Which means there was nothing wrong with your version of the txt2html.regexps file... But that was not the case for Robert and me. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 13:5:0) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wierd HTML rendering
Hello Peter Ouwehand everyone else 16-Okt-2004 02:36, you wrote: M all I know is that IE has no problem with it. M$-IE is known to be / infamous for switching into a quirk mode. Something about IE that people who say ...but IE does it correctly may find interesting: http://piology.org/ie/ (german) http://www.nefkom.net/g.piesche/ie/ (english) Enjoy. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 There are children playing in the street who could solve some of my top problems in physics, because they modes of sensory perception I lost long ago. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wierd HTML rendering
Hello Peter, M Right, TB can't handle it. I don't know if the message is correctly M coded or not, Without being familiar with that msg ... I can send it to you by PM if you want to take a look at it. Although I'm no fan of HTML msg at all, lets hope RL sticks to the standards on this subject also ... I am no fan either, but I can't avoid receiving some of them. BTW, see my new reply to your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wierd HTML rendering
Hello Martin, Seems that Thebat can't handle this mix... and I can't say if the whole message is correctly coded... Right, TB can't handle it. I don't know if the message is correctly coded or not, all I know is that IE has no problem with it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wierd HTML rendering
Hello all, As the list server blocked a message I sent because of the size of the attachment, I have just opened a BT report without waiting for any confirmation. If you'd care to take a look: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3931 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wierd HTML rendering
Hello Martin, Never seen such a message. I think it would be helpfull to get the whole HTML-code of the message - F9. You've got mail :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/22 and html rendering (attached a file)
Hello David, 04. januar 2002, 15:46:31, you wrote: ES Hmmm, I have to wait ~2.5 sec... Also I have to wait the message ES displays when I delete messages by one. It is very annoyng. ES Duron 1Ghz, 512Mb, GeForce2 MX. DvZ That's really strange. My celly renders it in a fraction of a second DvZ on a Asus 3400 TNT. What other apps do you have running? Virus DvZ scanners or something that slows the system down, because it shouldn't DvZ take that long on such a system. I was experiencing this delay while I was using Win98 and had enough resources. Gradually as resources were getting lower (leak in mouse driver software:), RTF viewer was becoming faster. Then one day I reformatted my HD and installed Win98SE. RTF viewer works with normal speed now... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] You never find an article until you replace it. -- Harper's Magazine's Law -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: 1.54 Beta/22 and html rendering (attached a file)
Hello! ES Installed b22 after 1.53d. Now I have some Inbox - Known in 2 of 3 ES my boxes... ES What's this for? DE Have a look at your filters there might/should be one there called known. Yep, this is solved now for me. Second: the html rendering is soo slww... It takes so long to display html... I attach a file to message. Is this normal? -- Best regards, Eugene Savitsky. Menelon OU E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.menelon.ee Title: launch-results Mojo Launch/Relaunch Results Create by paw on 3/29/2001 Updated on 12/26/2001 Overview: The table below outlines the latest launch/re-launch Mojo startup timings. Tests were run against the machine configurations described below. Startup timings for Communicator 4.76 , NS 6.01 and Mojo builds are provided in seconds. UPDATE: The machines were reformated and OS's reinstalled on 12/19/01. They had been so used and abused that the numbers were no longer accurate. The three machines are now located in a new lab, and we are currently back testing on builds to get some accurate numbers. Be prepared to start seeing some ongoing graphs in the very near future! Build ID Windows 98 Launch Windows 98 Re-launch Red Hat Linux 6.2 Launch Red Hat Linux 6.2 Re-launch MacOs 9.0 Launch MacOS 9.0 Re-launch Communicator 4.76 Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress NS 6.01 19.76 6.95 Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress NS 6.1 Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress NS 6.2.1 Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress Testing in Progress 2001-12-26-06 17.73 6.83 16.62 7.80 lab outage lab outage Configurations: The following target configuration were tested. HP Vector VL Pentium II 266mhz with 128 mb of ram running Windows 98 SE HP Vector VL Pentium II 266mhz with 128 mb of ram running Red Hat Linux 6.2 Power Mac G3 266 mhz with 128 mb of ram running MacOS 9.0 Setup: Install the ns mojo using the recommended installation Remove all profiles and start the browser with the only one profile so the profile manager is not encountered Turn the sidebar off in the view menu In the preference panel set the first page to be displayed to about blank. Reboot the machine before the launch timing is taken Notes:
Re: 1.54 Beta/22 and html rendering (attached a file)
Hello Eugene, 3 Jan 2002, 20:45:53, you wrote: ES Second: the html rendering is soo slww... ES It takes so long to display html... I attach a file to message. ES Is this normal? Works fast here, with 300 MHz and only 32 Mb memory. The annoying thing is that browsing through the HTML-message with spacebar works still only in preview window. -- Best regards, Pete -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
v1.54beta/3 - HTML rendering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I decided to go through some archived messages of a dicussion list I subscribe where HTML messages are very common. The rendering seems fine except for the font sizes which are consistently prohibitively small. I'm running at a screen resolution of 1600x1200 and am using large screen fonts. - -- ©Allie C. Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) MUA: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/3) [OS: Windows 2000 (Service Pack 2)] - 'Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much.' __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Get my Public Key here - http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com iD8DBQE7WN8pV8nrYCsHF+IRAtHDAKCqMbsvKZHE34ZoUNbkojqNle4Z3gCglmFO VtOtbCvNDZIToz3RfYCafaU= =Tkx2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
