Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, Drafts has hourglass icon, finished letters dont have. if they are parked, what do they have? Parked means draft, draft has hourglass. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Vili
Hello Charlene, Why would anyone want to send the same mail twice in an automated routine? Hint: Because the recipient did not get the first copy? And why then does one have to automate this? It still is an exception that email doen't work. Ok, I see, why you think I am that hard

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, if they are parked, what do they have? Parking and draft are synonyms in Outbox. It's the same flag. I understand that, but I was hoping that Vili would finally have to admit that it was so and that he understood that as well. I DO admit that parked mails and draft mails

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, We at Ritlabs care for our users and want to protect you ('stupid' user) from inadvertently copying messages to the Outbox and unwillingly sending them out. For this reason we have made a big development effort using state of the art technology and we have included in our latest

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, I DO admit that parked mails and draft mails use the same flag. well, finally. I never said, that they are marked differently. What I am saying is: WHY IS IT IMPORTANT that only one kind of flagging is used??? What difference two kind of flag would make? You dont want to send

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-15 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Mark, On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 11:05:52 AM, among other things, you wrote: MP Hello Stefan, MP Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:22:43 PM, you wrote: ST I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't ST understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? The real question is why would anyone have to have a message in preparation IN the outbox when it needed later editing? I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... --

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... -- Vili

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program since 1.3 works well are you? This is what I am trying to say: I dont feel it as an improvement. I feel it like the new GUI:

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 16:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi Mary,   ___\/___ o/\o   MB What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied MB to me by the developers? MB As has been noted by others, I too never use Inbox-Known.

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Mary, No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 16:42 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi Mary, You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. MB I'm

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 17:16 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi MAU, THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... M Think about it a bit more. The fact that you interpret

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Mary, You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. I'm hungry. You're not hungry. So, you oppose my being fed because you don't see the significance of my

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, There is no such group that Keep. So, each of it is Draft. Wrong! There is one of each. Come on, take your _guess_! You have a 50% chance of _guessing_ it right ;-) MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as Keep... -- Vili

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your advocacy of it. What is that you cannot do NOW without the Drafts folder?

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... If I have a

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... Think about it

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers? :)) Simpler is always better... You are right but I

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Charlene, Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? Why would anyone put a rocket on a launch pad if not for firing it up? It has nothing to do with the emails... I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox, confusing me and the

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in Outbox means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent... Is it that hard to remember I can't tell if you are just being hard headed, aren't listening or are just enjoying the arguing. I dont see the point of

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your advocacy of it. What is that you cannot do NOW without the Drafts folder?

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Dwight! Can I open a message in a virtual folder and edit it? Yes. Will it's being in a virtual folder keep it out of the outbox where it is at risk of getting sent, Yes. As long as the Draft flag is used, messages cannot be sent. where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc. I has

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as Keep... Forget it, you'll never understand what this is all about. No, I wont, you are right. You, and noone here in the list showed me any _usefulness_ of the Drafts folder. You use magic words like Keep messages, but when

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Dwight! If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for consideration of any change. Could you please be more concrete? I've read all messages in the About TB folders thread and I could not find anything

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Dwight! if they are parked, what do they have? Parking and draft are synonyms in Outbox. It's the same flag. -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Mary! where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc. I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft messages, i.e. it's just missing functionality. I made a BT issue report about this, and Roelof posted to me

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Vili, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 12:42:00 AM, Vili wrotened: Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder? A: Nah! You don't need one. Your drafts are saved in Outbox, mixed with other messages waiting to be sent but with a special park flag which will prevent

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/13/2005 8:08 PM Hi Vili, On 12/13/2005 Vili wrote: V Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? V We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... I am glad you are not speaking for me. I often compile a message for future sending and 'park' it in the