Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans, Using MyGate to download upload from /to news groups, just a filter question. I am subscribing to news groups aus.comms and aus.comms.mobile. If a message is cross posted to both of these news groups, it is sorted, with my current filters to both news groups, causing dupes. In

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hello John, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 8:14:40 AM, you wrote: John Hi Bat! Fans, John Using MyGate to download upload from /to news groups, just a filter John question. John I am subscribing to news groups aus.comms and aus.comms.mobile. John If a message is cross posted to both of these news

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello! JP Move to inbox aus\.comms[|,|\n] Location Recipient Presence Yes JP Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions Filter on X-MyGate-MID. It has colon (:) after group name. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build

Re: test

2003-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:04:31 -0400GMT (5-10-03, 7:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: rg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] rg both email addresses No, three addresses. (And no signature delimiter.) -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re[2]: test

2003-10-05 Thread rich gregory
Hello Roelof, rg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] rg both email addresses RO No, three addresses. (And no signature delimiter.) At least that test (above, going to three addresses) confirmed that the extra addressee (TBUDL) did indeed ONLY get added to the

Re: Keeping the attachments in a folder, for some mails.

2003-10-05 Thread Alexander
04-Okt-2003 21:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jh How do I unsubscribe from this list please. You can manage your subscription at this URL: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl Is it REALLY necessary to write these messages to the list instead of private mail? I mean... a

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello John, Using MyGate to download upload from /to news groups, just a filter question. If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he included it for in 2.5. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El

Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts

2003-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello Pixie, Kind of a downside, maybe windows 95 limited, but there isn't a way to adjust message box text color from window text color.. Same here with Win2K. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF:

Re: Keeping the attachments in a folder, for some mails.

2003-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Alexander, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:03:09 +0200GMT (5-10-03, 10:03 +0200, where I live), you wrote: A Is it REALLY necessary to write these messages to the list instead A of private mail? No, but for everyone writing to the list that he doesn't know how he unsubscribe, there are several who

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi MAU, On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 10:14:19 [GMT+0200] (which was 18:14:19 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he included it for in 2.5. Now doing that.

Re: BayesIt LOADER ERROR

2003-10-05 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Pixie, on Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:15:20 -0400GMT (05.10.03, 01:15 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : P After part one of the installation, when I try adding the TBP from P within TB! I get a LOADER ERROR titled window I'm not quite sure, but I think the Windows System directory

Re: Problem with TB and SpamPal

2003-10-05 Thread Bob Morris
G'day Prezes, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 1:28:11 AM, Prezes wrote: Hello TBUDL list, I have 54 mail accounts. Recently I have installed SpamPal (then K9). And I have a problem: in 43/54 accounts there is Cannot SNIPPED But in K9 there is no option to listening in more than 1 port. So,

Wish list archive

2003-10-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello all Batters, Can someone please tell me if there is a 'Wish List' archive, and how to access it if there is one. -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat! v2.00.22 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL

Problem with view

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hello All, i have set my view as View threads by References (standard). Is there a way to expand threads automaticly at startup. I can't find an option for that, can i. -- Kind regards, Gerrit mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread Michal Kosinski
B-stok/PL, Sunday, October 5, 2003 Hello John, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 19:50:40 (which was 11:50 where I live) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: JP Cross posted to aus.comms aus.comms.mobile now all land in JP aus.comms. Something I am missing here? You're

Re: Wish list archive

2003-10-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Roger, @5-Oct-2003, 11:57 +0200 (05-Oct 10:57 UK time) Roger Phillips [RP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: RP Can someone please tell me if there is a 'Wish List' archive, RP and how to access it if there is one. The entire wishlist is help on the RITlabs BugTraq server.

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: MB So, I'll wait a day or two and see if anyone else has a concern MB about some of the fields that now are controlled by Windows, MB especially in dialogue boxes like those in the Address Book and in MB the Header fields. The text size and font in the header fields can be

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG Eudora's answer for this was a tab available during mssg creation RG that would pull up a list of 'sig' files. Not nearly as powerful as RG termplates by a long shot, but it is what I was used too! By a long shot indeed. I never really started using a lot of

How to Unsubscribe (WAS: Re: Keeping the attachments in a folder, for some mails.)

2003-10-05 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, No, but for everyone writing to the list that he doesn't know how he unsubscribe, there are several who need the same knowledge, so on list replying prevents us from getting those other messages. I am not really sure about this. Do you think that everybody, including those who

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Michal, On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: You're missing a colon. Filter by aus.comms: aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms aus.comms.mobile Thanjs. Will try. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Sunday, October 05, 2003, 5:54 AM, you wrote, in part: MB ... fields that now are controlled by Windows, especially in MB dialogue boxes like those in the Address Book and in the Header MB fields. A The text size and font in the header fields can be changed by going to A

Lag between creation and receiving [was Re: Keeping the attachments ...]

2003-10-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Sunday, October 05, 2003, 4:04 AM, you wrote, in part: R ... though my reply wasn't the first to be created, it was the R first to be received by me. ... This has been happening rather frequently to me lately. I guess there's nothing to be done about how servers process sent

Re: Filter question (MyGate)

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Michal, On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: You're missing a colon. Filter by aus.comms: aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms aus.comms.mobile Works a treat. Thanks! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6

Re: Spell check in incorrect language

2003-10-05 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 10/4/2003 22:09:02, I think I heard danger say: This is the above spell checked! Hi c'an somme one shed somme light on thés? For somme rasons mi spell checksum sen to ne in french? But I née to have et in english. Oh man! I gotta say that that is really funny! :)

Spell Checker after the cut sign

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
TBUDL, Is there a way to let the spell checker stop checking after the cut sign? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 When a man's knowledge is deep, he speaks well of an enemy. Instead of seeking revenge, he extends unexpected generosity. He

Re[2]: Spell check in incorrect language

2003-10-05 Thread danger
Hello Scott, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 10:09:01 PM, you wrote: SF Then: SF Spell Checker|Language and choose a language. Thank you! -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00.6 |

Re: Spell Checker after the cut sign

2003-10-05 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:39:01 AM (GMT -05:00) RE: Spell Checker after the cut sign Greetings Edgar, On Sunday, October 5, 2003, 9:12:52 AM, you wrote: Edgar Is there a way to let the spell checker stop checking after the cut Edgar sign? Sorry.

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Marck, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 11:43:50 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Andrew, MDP @4-Oct-2003, 23:15 Andrew Hodgson [AH] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Vishal: MDP New messages are a bit trickier... V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address V in/selecting from the

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Allie, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 1:55:13 AM, you wrote: AM New message, then type 'TBUDL', address autocomplete kicks in to AM complete the address. I then tab into the message body area and voila, AM tbudl new message template applied. Yes, this is what I am doing now. Thanks, Andrew.

Re[2]: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hello Andrew, Andrew Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder Andrew templates to address book templates with no hastle, and it is Andrew working as expected. I have templates in all my folders also. How did you convert them to your addressbook. Was this

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello Gerrit, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 4:48:22 PM, you wrote: Hello Andrew, Andrew Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder Andrew templates to address book templates with no hastle, and it is Andrew working as expected. I have templates in all my

Re[2]: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hi Edgar, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 17:07:12 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:07 where I live) you wrote: Edgar Hello Gerrit, Edgar Sunday, October 5, 2003, 4:48:22 PM, you wrote: Hello Andrew, Andrew Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder Andrew templates to

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerrit, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:19:56 +0200GMT (5-10-03, 17:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GK Thank you. Well, i have quite a few mailinglists in dutch and english GK and i want of course my replies start with the right language and GK sentences. Will do that as described. You can sort

Re[2]: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hi Roelof, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 17:27:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:27 where I live) you wrote: Roelof You can sort the addresses of those mailinglists into two address book Roelof groups and make AB group templates and not individual AB templates, Roelof that's easier. Excellent solution.

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Gerrit, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 3:48:22 PM, you wrote: GK Hello Andrew, Andrew Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder Andrew templates to address book templates with no hastle, and it is Andrew working as expected. GK I have templates in all my

Mod: Preamble too long (was: Spell Checker after the cut sign)

2003-10-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Dan, @5-Oct-2003, 09:39 -0400 (05-Oct 14:39 UK time) DG Raftery Sr. [DRS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Edgar: DRS Sunday, October 05, 2003 DRS 9:39:01 AM (GMT -05:00) DRS RE: Spell Checker after the cut sign ... snip DRS Sorry. Not that I know of. moderator There's a problem with your

Re[2]: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hi Andrew, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 16:45:54 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:45 where I live) you wrote: Andrew I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many Andrew lists imported in TB so only had around three folders to sort out, Andrew but I had also been affected by

Re: Mod: Preamble too long (was: Spell Checker after the cut sign)

2003-10-05 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Marck, On Sunday, October 5, 2003, 12:14:19 PM, you wrote: Marck There's a problem with your current reply format. That top block is Marck a repeat of the credit line that follow the subsequent greeting. Add Marck to that the bulk of the

Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Gerrit, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:15:00 PM, you wrote: GK Hi Andrew, GK On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 16:45:54 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:45 where I GK live) you wrote: Andrew I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many Andrew lists imported in TB so only had

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Pixie! On Sunday, October 05, 2003, 11:27 AM, you wrote: A The text size and font in the header fields can be changed by A going to Options/Preferences/System and going to the section A 'Fonts'. You'll see that you can change the Folder pane font and A size as well. MB Thanks, Allie. I've

Re: Problem with view

2003-10-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerrit, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:14:37 +0200 GMT (05/10/2003, 17:14 +0700 GMT), Gerrit Kruijer wrote: i have set my view as View threads by References (standard). Is there a way to expand threads automaticly at startup. No, there isn't yet. But it has been promised for a future version.

Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread daniel hahler
Hello all, ok. After the recent thread about using addressbook (and -group) templates, I changed my TB lists to that behaviour. But: 1. it would be very good to have an identity tab for each address book entry (as with the folders), which will be used when sending to that recipient/list! Now I

Re: Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hi daniel, On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 20:23:26 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:23 where I live) you wrote: daniel Hello all, daniel ok. After the recent thread about using addressbook (and -group) daniel templates, I changed my TB lists to that behaviour. daniel But: daniel 1. it would be very good to

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Pixie! On Sunday, October 05, 2003, 1:47 PM, you wrote: P I figured since I am not involved at all in the beta progress that P perhaps I'll wait until the first, badly needed update makes it way P into the channels. I may be pleasantly surprised to find some/all P of what I am after

Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello All, When I used OE (Before TB!) and used a dail-in connection I could make a rule for large mails. e.g.. When a mail of more then 1MB was received it would stay on the server and the sender would get a mail with a text from a specific text file on my HD. I'm missing this in TB! When I

Re: Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread Alexander
05-Okt-2003 20:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. it would be very good to have an identity tab for each address book entry (as with the folders), which will be used when sending to that recipient/list! You can use the %ACCOUNT macro in the template for that. Now I have to write the new

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Alexander
05-Okt-2003 18:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually it all boils down to the color. Easier to picture what I am talking about by trying to make TB! show white text on black backgrounds anywhere beyond the built-in ability to re-color the message view and edit areas. Good point. A friend of

Re:Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Fincham
Hi Edgar, On 05 October 2003 at 20:20:05GMT +0100, Edgar sent an E-Mail mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the subject of Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size: Edgar I'm missing this in TB! Edgar When I choose to delete all messages and not downloading mail 1MB Edgar I just get a

Re: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)

2003-10-05 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello Neal, Friday, September 26, 2003, 4:51:24 PM, you wrote: NL you. Use these two filter files in two selective download filters and NL that should get 90% of them. [...] NL Well, filter.zip that containt the two text files did not show up in NL the previous mail. Are attachments not allowed

How to send mails un attended?

2003-10-05 Thread Gerard
Hi Bat Users, I am trying to figure out a way to check if my computer and more importantly TB! are still functioning properly, while I am away from the office. I regulary have to travel a week for business. I can always ask someone to go in and restart my computer but I do not want to do this

Keyboard not working in spell checker

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello All, I find that if you use the spell checker some times the Underlined letter (like I for ignore) is not underlined. And the ALT+N is not working for Ignore all. Is this a bug? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Öh dear, I think

Re: How to send mails un attended?

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello Gerard, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 10:43:44 PM, you wrote: I am thinking that if TB! can send a mail it is still functioning properly , but I can't figure a way to have TB! send emails automatically, say every 2 hours. Does anyone know if this is possible and how to do this? Or does

Re: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)

2003-10-05 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Scott Frederick wrote to TBUDL: Could you paste these filters, or instructions on how to set them up in the body of a message? This is starting to be a problem for me too. Thanks. I filter them in a different app than TB!, but here is what works well for me. Delete

Re: Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello Simon, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 9:59:20 PM, you wrote: I set TB up to leave messages larger than 2MB on the server, and also have the option set to Delete downloaded messages. My test message was purged from the server even though I only received the automated test notification that a

Re: How to filter Worm (the Microsoft one)

2003-10-05 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello Michael, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 2:16:32 PM, you wrote: MLC I log my kills, and this filter has killed all Swens, with no MLC false positives that I have seen. The logs are big, so there may MLC be a false positive in there somewhere, but I don't want to be MLC BCCed huge files anyway.

Re[2]: Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Simon, On Sunday, October 5, 2003, 3:59:20 PM, you wrote: Simon I need this facility as my Antivirus [NOD32] seems to Simon currently have issue with large attachments in E-Mail [say over Simon 5MB], it hangs, consuming 95%+ CPU in an

Re: Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread daniel hahler
on Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:15:31 +0200 Alexander wrote: 1. it would be very good to have an identity tab for each address book entry (as with the folders), which will be used when sending to that recipient/list! A You can use the %ACCOUNT macro in the template for that. that wouldn't work, as I

Re: Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread daniel hahler
on Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:31:32 +0200 Gerrit Kruijer wrote: daniel 2. The Known filter in sorting office now filters the mails from daniel the TB lists into Inbox - Known, as it stands upon the lists daniel filters. But this should not happen, because the lists_tb group isn't daniel checked in the

Re: Regarding group templates

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Daniel Hahler, [DH] wrote: DH 1. it would be very good to have an identity tab for each address DH book entry (as with the folders), which will be used when sending to DH that recipient/list! Now I have to write the new message in the DH according folder anyway, as it wouldn't use the address for

Re: Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Simon Fincham, [SF] wrote: SF I set TB up to leave messages larger than 2MB on the server, SF and also have the option set to Delete downloaded messages. SF My test message was purged from the server even though I only SF received the automated test notification that a large message was SF

Re: Custom colors and font sizes [was Re: SHIFTCTLI and other shortcuts]

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Pixie, [P] wrote: P Actually it all boils down to the color. Easier to picture what I am P talking about by trying to make TB! show white text on black P backgrounds anywhere beyond the built-in ability to re-color the P message view and edit areas. Yes. Some time back, when I felt like trying

Re[2]: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Vishal
Hi Marck Saturday, October 4, 2003, 5:38:49 PM, you wrote: MDP For sure - but that stock lecture is for those who have tried to MDP make things easier than that :-). Oh ok :) Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL

running from a BAT file

2003-10-05 Thread rich gregory
I saw a tip of the day (BTW, do those ever get updated? I've not seen each one even once yet but it'd be nice to be able to add more daily tips after a while, wouldn't it?) Anyway, I saw a tip of the day explaining command startup switch /nologo. How can I set the (win 98se) shortcut

Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-05 Thread Vishal
Hi Marck Saturday, October 4, 2003, 5:29:59 PM, you wrote: V Perhaps you could include the cut mark as part of the listserv V footer then, instead of relying on users? MDP Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have that message stored on my machine. Any chance you could paste the text or

Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading

2003-10-05 Thread Vishal
Hi Deborah Saturday, October 4, 2003, 5:24:51 PM, you wrote: DW Marck has already explained why this does not work, earlier in this thread. I didn't see that. DW Only text which falls below the last cut-mark inserted will be stripped, DW which means that if you have a cutmark, followed by a

Bat / MyGate question - crossposting

2003-10-05 Thread John Phillips
Hi Bat! Fans, Is there any way of marking read the second and subsequent downloaded cross posted news group messages, using MyGate Bat! at all? Some sort of filter perhaps? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Re:Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size

2003-10-05 Thread Simon Fincham
Hi DG, On 05 October 2003 at 23:04:25GMT +0100, DG Raftery Sr. sent an E-Mail mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the subject of Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size: DRS Allie Martin and myself discussed this issue this morning in regards DRS to NOD32, functioning at the Winsock

Re: running from a BAT file

2003-10-05 Thread Neal Laugman
Sunday, October 5, 2003, 8:54:56 PM, rich wrote: rg Anyway, I saw a tip of the day explaining command startup rg switch /nologo. How can I set the (win 98se) shortcut properties rg to include this switch? Are you saying: c:\program files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /NOLOGO doesn't work in win98se?