Re: Addressing email

2004-08-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:15:38 -0400GMT (15-8-2004, 0:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG How, in your third line above, did you enter the 2 handles to begin RG with? handle1 comma space handle2 tab (tab to go to the next header) RG Did you use ANY keystroke(s) at all to indicate

Re: Selecting Text - Reply to all

2004-08-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Critter, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:38:40 -0400GMT (14-8-2004, 21:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I know there is a keyboard shortcut F4 to quote selected text in a C reply, but I do not see there is one for quoting and replying to all. C Is there a way to add a keyboard shortcut or is

Re: Selecting Text - Reply to all

2004-08-15 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Critter, Saturday, August 14, 2004, 10:38:40 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Is there a way to add a keyboard shortcut or is there one? Shift-Ctrl-F5 = Reply to all -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL'

Re: Panda antivirus plugin

2004-08-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Claude Renaud, 14-Aug-2004 13:58, you wrote: I just did a search on google about the panda antivirus plugin. The only plugin I found is the 0.1 test version which seems to work with the latest panda antivirus software. Does someone know if a more recent version has been realeased ? I

Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups

2004-08-15 Thread Peter Ballantyne
I use the address book groups very heavily. It acts as my contact manager and the fields for Internet links will link to local files also. I don't let it hide entries that are included in a group, so that the default always shows the whole lot. In a couple of years I have hammered it and it has

Re: Address book, using multiple addresses

2004-08-15 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun 15 August 2004, 5:31:45 +1000, Critter wrote: In the address book, you can put additional email addresses, one per line, but is there a way to access the second, third email addresses while creating a new message w/o having to click on the To: and have the secondary address to to the

Re: more than just spam/ham classification

2004-08-15 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Sun, 15. Aug 2004 at 07:19:14 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I tried Bayesfilter, but somehow it did not learn as fast as BayesIt. However, I'm using PopFile now and use Virtual Folders to reflect the bucket classification of PopFile (except for spam, of course). But you

Re: more than just spam/ham classification

2004-08-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello dAniel hAhler, 15-Aug-2004 11:55, you wrote: I thought you were using another Bayesian Filter, but you're using POPFile, too.. :) I'd vote for integrating something like POPfile into TB, of course. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander Gumperson's Law: The probability of anything happening

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:42:17 -0400 GMT [20:42 CEST] you wrote: DJ That makes sense. But do you know how the weight is DJ calculated? I can assume it is the product of its initial DJ probability by the regarding threshold value, is that true? I don't program the thing. For specific

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello MikeD, On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: M I have been following this thread since I have been having some M problems too. I was using the old version (0.4gm) until I upgraded to M the current version of TB. M The settings I used to use don't seem to work any

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 22:24:58, I think I heard MikeD (3) say: What settings are you using? Under the old version (0.4gm) I had it trained and was getting most spam caught, no false positives with a Move message setting of 10. Now I have gone down as low as 1 and as high as 99 without

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 23:28:14, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say: DJ That makes sense. But do you know how the weight is calculated? Check out for a mathematician called Bayes. 19th century, IIRC. Have you read at all the entire thread, or did you just decided to come in and offer

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 07:43:05, I think I heard Andre Wichartz say: Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:42:17 -0400 GMT [20:42 CEST] you wrote: DJ That makes sense. But do you know how the weight is DJ calculated? I can assume it is the product of its initial DJ probability by the

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Andre, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 6:44:17 AM, you wrote: AW Hello MikeD, AW On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: AW Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you AW upgraded? Funny, that. When I first upgraded I did not and it seemed to work

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello DZ-Jay, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 8:12:23 AM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/14/2004 22:24:58, I think I heard MikeD (3) say: What settings are you using? Under the old version (0.4gm) I had it trained and was getting most spam caught, no false positives with a Move message setting

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello DZ-Jay, On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:20:41 -0400 GMT (15/08/2004, 20:20 +0700 GMT), DZ-Jay wrote: DJ That makes sense. But do you know how the weight is calculated? Check out for a mathematician called Bayes. 19th century, IIRC. DJ Have you read at all the entire thread, or did you just DJ

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 09:28:42, I think I heard Thomas Fernandez say: DJ What is not that simple? The bayesian algorithm or how the DJ regarding threshold is used by the plugin? The Bayesian algorithms. Your question, to which I answered, could be understood this way, so I don't feel I

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 09:24:56, I think I heard MikeD (3) say: DJ I started with the move message setting at 40 and continued DJ to lowered it without noticing any effect. That's when I checked DJ the BAYESIT.LOG file and realized that all messages are marked DJ with either 100/99 % or 0%

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 09:23:46, I think I heard MikeD (3) say: Hello Andre, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 6:44:17 AM, you wrote: AW Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you AW upgraded? Funny, that. When I first upgraded I did not and it seemed to work fine ...

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello DZ-Jay, 15-Aug-2004 15:12, you wrote: I checked the BAYESIT.LOG file and realized that all messages are marked with either 100/99 % or 0% probability, which means that no matter how low I set the parameter, it will continue working the same. I don't understand how come there is no

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 10:20:47, I think I heard Alexander S. Kunz say: I just checked my POPfile bucket pages and found it very interesting that, despite spam is only 5.8% of my messages (lucky me, hu?), the distinct word count for those spam messages is by far the highest (only messages

Re: Panda antivirus plugin

2004-08-15 Thread Allie Martin
Alexander S. Kunz, [ASK] wrote: I just wonder if it is really necessary to have an antivirus plugin for (any) email program. I wouldn't say that it's absolutely necessary because once a realtime, system scanner is running, the infected attachment will be detected before you run it or save it

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 15, 2004, 7:44:17 AM, you wrote: AW Hello MikeD, AW On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: AW Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you AW upgraded? What are their names and where are they? --

NOD32 plugin (was: Re[2]: Panda antivirus plugin)

2004-08-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, August 15, 2004, Allie Martin wrote: The current challenge with using a plug-in is that they often don't work from TB! version to TB! version, and they often don't work across anti-virus versions. Each time DrWeb released an upgrade, it broke the plug-in and you'd have to

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 10:52:14, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Sunday, August 15, 2004, 7:44:17 AM, you wrote: AW Hello MikeD, AW On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: AW Have you deleted you spam and non-spam dictionary files when you AW upgraded? What are

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 09:24:56, I think I heard MikeD (3) say: DJ I was too. I just upgraded yesterday to 0.5.9 and I haven't DJ noticed a difference. It does provide a white/black list, which I DJ don't care to use because it defeats the purpose of a Bayesian DJ filter (there's huge

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello DZ-Jay, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 9:25:14 AM, you wrote: DJ However, I recently noticed why some obviously spam messages DJ are given a probability of 0%: Apparently the analysis engine is DJ regarding a few empty tokens with a value of 0%, which DJ unspamifies the final value, for example,

More than 1 AV Plugin at the same time ?

2004-08-15 Thread WilWilWil
Hello, As SO ask for using 2 plugins at the same time for blocking spam, is it possible for anti virus plugins ? Because my Grisoft plugin (not free version 6, but registered version 7) sometimes doesn't see viruses within archives ! Any Suggestion for the 2nd plugin if I can use 2 model ?

Monaco TTF Police ?

2004-08-15 Thread WilWilWil
Hello, I've seen in a previous subject that SO spoke about monaco.ttf ? I can't find this subject again in archive... SO can remember me the link for get this police ? Thanks, -- WilWilWil (France) [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.12.00 Windows XP Service Pack 1

Re: Monaco TTF Police ?

2004-08-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello WilWilWil, 15-Aug-2004 17:26, you wrote: I've seen in a previous subject that SO spoke about monaco.ttf ? I can't find this subject again in archive... SO can remember me the link for get this police ? Police? ...anyway... :-)

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 11:13:49, I think I heard Stuart Cuddy say: What is Graham? What is Spam-grade? AFAIK, spam-grade would be the probability of it being spam, and Graham, I suppose, means the probability of it being not-spam (I suppose, non-spam-grade ham-grade graham ?)

Re: Monaco TTF Police ? -Fonts

2004-08-15 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text=== From: WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 15, 2004, 5:26:00 PM Subject: Monaco TTF Police ? W Hello, W I've seen in a previous subject that SO spoke about monaco.ttf ? I can't find this W subject again in

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 11:13:49, I think I heard Stuart Cuddy say: I am not seeing the empty tokens, but the following message is being received without being caught. I sent it again to myself about 5 or 6 times and marked it as junk each time. The values do not seem to change at

adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread pk roy
hello, how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's to address book ? any suggestions ! pk roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) TB v2.12.0 / W2K SP4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread Pete Holsberg
Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:11:00 AM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/15/2004 10:52:14, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Sunday, August 15, 2004, 7:44:17 AM, you wrote: AW Hello MikeD, AW On 14 Aug 2004 at 14:47:24 -0500 GMT [21:47 CEST] you wrote: AW Have you deleted you spam and

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 11:57:15, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:11:00 AM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/15/2004 10:52:14, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: DJTB! installation dir\BayesIt\base DJ or DJTB! installation dir\MAIL\BayesIt\base ???

Re: adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello pk, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 10:58:56 AM, you wrote: pr how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's pr to address book ? pr any suggestions ! You can right click on the appropriate header in the Header bar and select Add to address book. I believe it then gives you the option to add

Re[2]: adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread pk roy
Hello Stuart, pr how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's pr to address book ? pr any suggestions ! You can right click on the appropriate header in the Header bar and select Add to address book. I believe it then gives you the option to add all other recipients to same address

Re[3]: adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello pk, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:20:02 AM, you wrote: pr how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's pr to address book ? pr any suggestions ! You can right click on the appropriate header in the Header bar and select Add to address book. I believe it then gives you the option to

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread George Mitchell
DZ-Jay wrote: DJ Some time around 08/15/2004 11:13:49, I think I heard Stuart Cuddy say: What is Graham? What is Spam-grade? DJ AFAIK, spam-grade would be the probability of it being spam, and DJ Graham, I suppose, means the probability of it being not-spam (I DJ suppose, non-spam-grade

Re: More than 1 AV Plugin at the same time ?

2004-08-15 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi WilWilWil, on Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:24:06 +0200GMT, you wrote: W As SO ask for using 2 plugins at the same time for blocking spam, is it possible W for anti virus plugins ? Because my Grisoft plugin (not free version 6, but W registered version 7) sometimes doesn't see viruses within

Re: NOD32 plugin (was: Re[2]: Panda antivirus plugin)

2004-08-15 Thread Allie Martin
Marek Mikus, [MM] wrote: did You tested first beta version of plugin for NOD32 v2? It was created by Maxim some weeks ago and works with last beta of NOD32, which has file nod32api.dll included. We have found only one issue yet, system must be restarted after installing beta of NOD and

Re: More than 1 AV Plugin at the same time ?

2004-08-15 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Meyns, [PM] wrote: You should not run two virus scanners at the same time. They are very likely to disturb each other. At least that is what I learned. :-) Since the plugin interface will determine how each antivirus checks the incoming message, using 2 may actually be possible. I'm

Re: adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Stuart, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:28:50 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: pr how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's pr to address book ? ... snip You can right click on the appropriate header in the Header bar and select Add to address book. ... snip pr this is one way.. a

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-15 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/15/2004 12:35:29, I think I heard George Mitchell say: It might be coincidence, but Paul Graham has written much about Bayesian filtering. I'd guess it has something to do with his methodology. Even if I'm wrong, there's some interesting reading at:

Re: adding all addresses in AB

2004-08-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo pk, On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:28:56 +0530GMT (15-8-2004, 17:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PR how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's PR to address book ? Incoming filter 'Rule' tab String: . Location: Kludges Present: Yes 'Advanced' tab Check 'Addresses must not be in

Attachments in sent folder?

2004-08-15 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello, I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be opened. Is this normal? -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 This message transmitted on

Re: Attachments in sent folder?

2004-08-15 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Darrin! On Sunday, August 15, 2004, 5:29 PM, you wrote: DR I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with DR image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but DR the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be opened. Is this normal? Not here. The

Re: Attachments in sent folder?

2004-08-15 Thread Darrin Rich
On 8/15/2004 5:09 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB Not here. The last attachment I sent (just today), a small jpeg to my MB sister, says under the icon when I pass my cursor over it, in the sent MB mail, the name of the file and its size, 63,165 bytes. Hi Mary, Thanks for looking into it. Ill have

Save sent messages in same folders as originals

2004-08-15 Thread Critter
is that a possibility? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Ctz Consulting ]-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://ctzconsulting.com ]-= Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Save sent messages in same folders as originals

2004-08-15 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Critter, On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C is that a possibility? Would Filter\Actions\save copy in another folder work. Not tried it but just an idea. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12.03 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1

Re: Attachments in sent folder?

2004-08-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Darrin, On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:29:20 -0700GMT (16-8-2004, 0:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DR I was looking through my sent folder and noticed that my emails with DR image attachments showed the name of the attachment and the type but DR the size reads as 0 bytes and cant be