Hallo Richard,
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:50:07 +0500GMT (29-11-2004, 2:50 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
RHS caught, but some days I get for or five per session, so prefer they be
RHS quarantined by TB! as before.
RHS
RHS Current version is
Greetings:
I'm trying out K9 since BayesIt has dropped from an accuracy rate of
97% to less than 33% over the last few months. However, it causes a
problem for my AV plugin (Avast), which heretofore would flag viruses
and automatically move them to the quarantine folder. Now when when
one comes
Hello Lynn,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 5:57:59 PM, you wrote:
IL Go to BayesIt home page and download the database from
IL them. Load it up, and you will see the difference.
It's worth a try ... thanks!
Ummm .. I wrote that before I'd discovered that I can't
find the home page. I went
Thursday, September 30, 2004, 7:47:24 AM, you wrote:
IL Back Up yours : spamdict.bye, spamdict.idx
IL spamdict.lst from bayesit
IL folder, extract downloaded file and replace this files
IL files.
IL Don't forget to shut down TheBat before doing it :)
OK - I'll go look again.
I suspect it
On 29-9-2004, 7:06, Michael L. Wilson wrote:
MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
MLW others think?
Never used K9. I have used SpamPal for quite some time now. After a while,
when
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:06:27 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 7:06 +0100, where I
live), Michael L. Wilson wrote:
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
I am working with Poptray 3.03
Hi Michael,
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004 22:06 your local time, which was
Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 06:06 my local time, Michael Wilson
[MLW] wrote;
MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so
Hello Michael,
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
Try POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), It has been running for
me with 99.82% accuracy for over one year.
--
Best
Hello Michael,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:06:27 AM, you wrote:
MLW Hi,
MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
MLW others think?
Been using K9 for a year now. Never used SpamPal
Hello Sander,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 8:30:55 AM, you wrote:
SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin.
SvdB But it does not exist... :-(
SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years
back.
Have a google on it...
--
Nick
On 29-9-2004, 10:25, Nick Dutton wrote:
ND Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 8:30:55 AM, you wrote:
SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin.
SvdB But it does not exist... :-(
ND
ND SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years
ND
Hello Sander,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:43:53 AM, you wrote:
SvdB But, to be honest, I would prefer a freeware Windows version of SpamAssassin.
SvdB But it does not exist... :-(
ND SA is just perl, I had it running nicely OK on a PC a couple of years
ND back.
SvdB I know, I had it
Hello,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 7:06:27 AM, you wrote:
MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
MLW others think?
K9 is more better than SpamPal for me (near 100% accurancy) but you
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
M Try POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), It has been running for
M me with 99.82% accuracy for over one year.
For the record POPFile
Hi,
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004 at 10:43:53 AM, Sander van den Berg wrote:
Onetime, there was a free program called SAproxy, but a while ago it has
gone commercial
I used to use it but it was very very slow. Then I test K9 which was
by far better and then BayesIt. Now, I use BayesFilter
Hello Michael,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 1:06:27 AM, you wrote:
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
Most probable that it been taught badly.
It doesn't meter which one
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
IL Most probable that it been taught badly.
IL It doesn't meter which one program do you use, K9, POPFile, ... all of
IL them have exactly
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 5:42:48 AM, you wrote:
IL 10-20 messages and 90% accuracy of filtering.
IL A few hints, if you have subscribed to any mailing
IL lists, don't mark
IL messages as NOT Junk, put them in white list.
IL White list and black list what you can and let the
IL filter to
Hallo Lynn,
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:55:52 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 17:55 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
L How would you deal with an account which has very little
L legit traffic, but seems to be a spam magnet?
I'd drop it as soon as possible.
--
Groetjes, Roelof
The Bat! 3.0.0.19
Windows XP
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:10:36 AM, you wrote:
RO I'd drop it as soon as possible.
Drop what, the account?
I suppose it's worth considering ...
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo
I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2
http://www.turriff.net
TBv.3.0.0.14
NT5 SP4
Hallo Lynn,
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:52:34 -0700GMT (29-9-2004, 18:52 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
RO I'd drop it as soon as possible.
L Drop what, the account?
Yep, anything that gets far more spam than legit mail isn't worth
maintaining.
--
Groetjes, Roelof
The Bat! 3.0.0.19
Windows XP
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Hi Michael,
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:06:27 -0700 (1:06 AM here), Michael L. Wilson
[MLW] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MLW I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
MLW think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 10:13:11 AM, you wrote:
RO Yep, anything that gets far more spam than legit
RO mail isn't worth
RO maintaining.
No doubt you are right, but I'm having some trouble
training some my correspondents to use the other address
:-(
I'll NAG them! lol!
tnx,
--
Lynn
Hello Lynn everyone else
29-Sep-2004 21:50, you wrote:
No doubt you are right, but I'm having some trouble
training some my correspondents to use the other address
:-(
They'll learn when they get the no mailbox here by that name responder...
;-)
--
Best regards,
Alexander
Hello Lynn,
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 11:55:52 AM, you wrote:
How would you deal with an account which has very little
legit traffic, but seems to be a spam magnet?
I have shifted some messages from other accounts and
marked them 'not junk', when I remember, but it's not very
Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 2:18:26 PM, you wrote:
IL Go to BayesIt home page and download the database from
IL them. Load it up, and you will see the difference.
It's worth a try ... thanks!
Ummm .. I wrote that before I'd discovered that I can't
find the home page. I went back through
Michael,
I really like K9 ( POPFile), but to conserve resources on this old system I'm
trying the plug-in Achim Winklers BayesFilter,
http://www.lkcc.org/achim/download/bayesfilter1.5.4.exe. So far it seems to
be almost as good as K9, but learns slower. I did better with the older
versions
Hallo Steve,
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:40:06 -0700GMT (30-9-2004, 0:40 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
SMK Michael,
SMK I really like K9 ( POPFile), but to conserve resources on this old system I'm
moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person
Hallo Steve,
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:40:06 -0700GMT (30-9-2004, 0:40 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
SMK Michael,
snip
SMK
SMK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
SMK http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi,
I have to get off BayesIT! It learns way to slow. What do people
think of SpamPal or K9? I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?
--
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Ecclesiastic Philosopher
Critic
Teacher
:einsteinyoyo
DR I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I
DR get it and where can I find more info on how to use it and install
DR it?
MLW Because BayesIT has no regEx and no DSNBL ability, it is hard to
MLW train. There is also no black/white list ability
For me, the main
Michael L. Wilson wrote:
On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 20:32:52[GMT -0700](which was 8:32 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):
I've messed with popfile and k9 and spampal. Got me which is best.
BayesIt is the fastest
Has anybody used any of these products with IMAP? I've been using
Keith Russell, [KR] wrote:
The ability to do IMAP Bayesian filtering with The Bat would be a
major factor in getting me back to TB
Spam fighting moved you away from TB!??? This is so sad. :(((
Damn that spam.
--
-=[ Allie Martin ]=-
List Moderator and fellow end-user
PGPKeys:
Hi Allie,
On 7/26/2004 10:00 AM my time, Allie wrote:
AM Spam fighting moved you away from TB!??? This is so sad. :(((
I think im sticking with K9 for TB! It just has been working well for
me. I dont know if its actually better than the others or not. Maybe
Im just so used to it now that its
Allie Martin wrote:
Spam fighting moved you away from TB!??? This is so sad. :(((
Damn that spam.
Hi, Allie.
:-) Actually spam was just one of several factors, including all
the IMAP issues and concerns about the haphazard direction of
development.
Let me rephrase it: I'm almost at the point
Hi Michael,
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 22:50:28 [GMT-0700] (which was Sun, 15:50:28
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:
I love SpamPal, but with this persistent time out issue some of my
accounts get hung. With BayesIt this timeout bug does not happen.
Spampal is still installed and
On Saturday, July 24, 2004, 11:22:34 PM, Darrin wrote:
DR Hello,
DR I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I
DR get it and where can I find more info on how to use it and install
DR it?
DR Thanks
Hi Darrin!
I'm very happy with a program called, SpamBayes
Hi John,
On 7/25/2004 9:27 PM my time, John wrote:
JP I find SpamPal to be almost faultless.
Sounds like I will have to look into spampal. Thanks
--
Darrin
WinXP Home Service Pack 1
Tbat! 2.12.00
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Hello John Phillips,
25-Jul-2004 06:27, you wrote:
I find SpamPal to be almost faultless.
If you're on a slow dial-up connection, the constant checking of DNS
blacklists may be a bit annoying - especially if you receive unknown mail
often (auto-whitelisting doesn't work, then). In such cases a
Hi Darrin,
On Sunday, July 25, 2004 06:45 your local time, which was 14:45 my local
time, Darrin Rich [DR] wrote;
JP I find SpamPal to be almost faultless.
DR Sounds like I will have to look into spampal. Thanks
I've been using SpamPal for nearly 2 weeks now and after the initial
learning and
Hello,
I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I
get it and where can I find more info on how to use it and install
it?
Thanks
--
Darrin
WinXP Home Service Pack 1
Tbat! 2.12.00
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Hello Darrin,
On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 20:22:34[GMT -0700](which was 8:22 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):
DR Hello,
DR I have K9 right now. Dont know much about bayesit plugin. Where do I
DR get it and where can I find
Hi Michael,
On 7/24/2004 8:26 PM my time, Michael wrote:
MLW Because BayesIT has no regEx and no DSNBL ability, it is hard to
MLW train. There is also no black/white list ability
So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly decent for me. Im not
sure what else is out there and what works
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Hello Darrin,
On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 20:32:52[GMT -0700](which was 8:32 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):
DR Hi Michael,
DR On 7/24/2004 8:26 PM my time, Michael wrote:
DR So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly
Hi Darrin,
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, at 20:32:52 [GMT-0700] (which was Sun, 13:32:52
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:
So do you recommend K9? I find K9 to work fairly decent for me. Im not
sure what else is out there and what works better.
I find SpamPal to be almost faultless.
--
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Hello John,
On Saturday, July 24, 2004 , at 14:27:20[GMT +1000](which was 9:27 PM
where I live) you wrote (at least in part):
JP I find SpamPal to be almost faultless.
I love SpamPal, but with this persistent time out issue some of my
accounts
Howdy Darrin,
Monday, July 19, 2004, 10:50:41 PM, Darrin wrotened:
Darrin Hi,
Darrin On 7/19/2004 2:49 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC when you select a filter, you can specify fields to search on. These
PC include receiptient, sender, subject, text and kludges. Kludges are the
PC headers. When you
Hi,
On 7/21/2004 11:19 AM my time, Ben wrote:
BA Or you can press F9 and get it in a whole new window then press F9
BA to get back to what you were doing.
Thats a handy thing to know. Thank :)
--
Darrin
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using
Hello,
Is it still a good choice for a filter for TB?. Havent used it for awhile.
--
Darrin
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Peter,
Monday, July 19, 2004, 11:02:54 AM, you wrote:
PM It seems to keep
PM learning pretty well.
I had a pretty good experience with it myself along time ago. Just
installed it again and am trying it out myself to see.
--
Best regards,
Darrinmailto:[EMAIL
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 2:02 PM, you wrote:
PM I have just set it up on a new machine, and after a week, there are no
PM more false positives, but still a few false negatives. It seems to keep
PM learning pretty well. :-
mine is at 97.95% accuracy, not the greatest, but it catched 30 and lets
Hello,
Could someone post a screen shot or tell me what exactly to do for
setting up a filter for my mail that is marked as spam in k9 to go to
a folder I labeled as spam? I must have done something wrong, because
it doesn't seem to be filtering correctly.
I appreciate it, thanks.
--
Darrin
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 4:41 PM, you wrote:
DR Hello,
DR Could someone post a screen shot or tell me what exactly to do for
DR setting up a filter for my mail that is marked as spam in k9 to go to
DR a folder I labeled as spam? I must have done something wrong, because
DR it doesn't seem
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 1:45 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC in the kludges
what exactly does kludges mean?
--
Darrin
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi,
So under strings I place ( X-Text-Classification: spam) and under
location I select (kludges)? Is that correct?
--
Darrin
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dear Darrin,
@19-Jul-2004, 14:23 -0700 (19-Jul 22:23 UK time) Darrin Rich said to
Paul:
PC in the kludges
what exactly does kludges mean?
It's TB speak for message headers.
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TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:25 PM my time, Marck wrote:
MDP It's TB speak for message headers.
ahhh. Ok, thanks.
--
Darrin
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:23 PM, you wrote:
DR Hi,
DR On 7/19/2004 1:45 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC in the kludges
DR what exactly does kludges mean?
when you select a filter, you can specify fields to search on. These
include receiptient, sender, subject, text and kludges. Kludges are the
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:26 PM, you wrote:
DR Hi,
DR So under strings I place ( X-Text-Classification: spam) and under
DR location I select (kludges)? Is that correct?
yes, that's it!
then give it a folder to send it to , like SPAM..
--
Paul
Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:49 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC when you select a filter, you can specify fields to search on. These
PC include receiptient, sender, subject, text and kludges. Kludges are the
PC headers. When you read an email, if you hit CONTROL-SHIFT-K you will see
PC the full headers (
Hi,
On 7/19/2004 2:50 PM my time, Paul wrote:
PC yes, that's it!
PC then give it a folder to send it to , like SPAM..
That was the problem. I didnt have it set to kludges, I was unclear as
to what that was. Now I got it. It should work now.
Now I will just sit here.I cant believe Im going
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 5:54 PM, you wrote:
DR That was the problem. I didnt have it set to kludges, I was unclear as
DR to what that was. Now I got it. It should work now.
DR Now I will just sit here.I cant believe Im going to say this,
DR but...and wait for spam. ;)
you
Hi Peter,
PM on Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:10:01 +0100GMT, you wrote:
PM I don't believe there is. And there shouldn't be. You'd better train
PM K9 with the spam *you* actually receive. This way you will get K9 to
PM filter to *your* needs.
Well, exactly for that reason I would like to be able
Hi Hartwig,
on Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:15:00 +0100GMT, you wrote:
PM I don't believe there is. And there shouldn't be. You'd better train
PM K9 with the spam *you* actually receive. This way you will get K9 to
PM filter to *your* needs.
HH Well, exactly for that reason I would like to be able
be. You'd better train
PM K9 with the spam *you* actually receive. This way you will get K9 to
PM filter to *your* needs.
HH Well, exactly for that reason I would like to be able to use *my* spam
HH email folder from the Bat to train K9.
PM OIC. Sorry for misunderstanding. Here's from the K9
Hi all,
is there a way to use a message base from theBat to train the K9 anti spam
tool ?
Thanks,
Hartwig
Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hi Hartwig,
on Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:10:01 +0100GMT, you wrote:
HH is there a way to use a message base from theBat to train the K9 anti spam
HH tool ?
I don't believe there is. And there shouldn't be. You'd better train
K9 with the spam *you* actually receive. This way you will get K9 to
filter
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, 4:59 PM, you wrote:
PM I don't believe there is. And there shouldn't be. You'd better train
PM K9 with the spam *you* actually receive. This way you will get K9 to
PM filter to *your* needs.
since January 3rd, K9 is 98.4% accurate:) 13,000 emails processed.
97.8
Hi dAniel,
Monday, January 26, 2004, 12:22:40 AM, you wrote:
on Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:17:10 + Doug Weller wrote:
DW My wife is trying to install K9 on 1.63. It looks set up correctly,
DW but she gets the message 'Cannot connect to server'.
DW Any suggestions as to where we may have
Hello,
My wife is trying to install K9 on 1.63. It looks set up correctly,
but she gets the message 'Cannot connect to server'.
Any suggestions as to where we may have gone wrong?
Thanks.
Doug
--
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Doug's
on Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:17:10 + Doug Weller wrote:
DW My wife is trying to install K9 on 1.63. It looks set up correctly,
DW but she gets the message 'Cannot connect to server'.
DW Any suggestions as to where we may have gone wrong?
look at the port and IP settings in TheBat, if it's
Hi,
On Wednesday at 10:22 AM you wrote:
G Yes, this sounds right.
G Kludges is a term from the old Fido network if I remember correctly and
G means all the headers or all the info before the msg if you are looking
G at the buy using F9
Thanks for responding. It slowly starting to learn. I
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Hi,
I trying out K9. I have a spam folder set up, but wish to create a
filter rule forX-Text-Classification: spam Im not sure what kind of
rule to make? Appreciate any help on this.
- --
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The Bat 2.01.3
Hi,
On Tuesday at 6:00 AM you wrote:
D I trying out K9. I have a spam folder set up, but wish to create a
D filter rule forX-Text-Classification: spam Im not sure what kind of
D rule to make? Appreciate any help on this.
Would I set it like:
[Move message to] Spam folder
[Stings]X-Text
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003 at 06:00 (which was Tuesday, November
18, 2003 at 15:00 where I am) Darrin [D] wrote:
D I have a spam folder set up, but wish to create a filter rule
D forX-Text-Classification: spam Im not sure what kind of rule to
D make?
Have the filter search for
Hi Darrin,
on Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:46:42 -0800GMT (18.11.03, 15:46 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
D Would I set it like:
D [Move message to] Spam folder
D [Stings]X-Text-Classification: spam
D [Location] Kludges
D [presence]yes
D Sound right??
Yes, it does.
D Can someone
ON Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 3:46:42 PM, you wrote:
D On Tuesday at 6:00 AM you wrote:
D I trying out K9. I have a spam folder set up, but wish to create a
D filter rule forX-Text-Classification: spam Im not sure what kind of
D rule to make? Appreciate any help on this.
D Would I set it like
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 15:00:51, Darrin wrote:
I trying out K9. I have a spam folder set up, but wish to create a
filter rule forX-Text-Classification: spam Im not sure what kind of
rule to make? Appreciate any help on this.
You can copy/paste this:
BeginFilter
Name: K9 Spam
Active
101 - 178 of 178 matches
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