Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Kynast
Hi Johannes, So you are a very privileged person. I consider your argument arrogant and unpolite to those readers here, who are not as privileged as you are (and I am) considered internet access costs. JMP What?! *Priviledged*? I know that in roughly 70% of countries you have JMP somewhat

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Kynast
Hi Johannes, JMP Oh come on! What do you use? ISDN? In times of flatrates at 80 DM, I JMP can only laugh at discussions 'bout "your .sig is longer than 4 lines" JMP and "2k vs 6k". So you are a very privileged person. I consider your argument arrogant and unpolite to those readers here, who are

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread David Powell
PGP, GPG signatures are ok. But that travesty called S/MIME has got to go! 2870 bytes to sign something far less than that!? Yep :) Personally I'm not having a go at the people who use it (doesn't look like you are either), especially since S/MIME support is still early in TB and

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread Deryk Lister
Hi Steve, On Tuesday 08/08/2000 at 14:26, you wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 01:17:26AM +0100, Deryk Lister wrote: Not really. S/MIME insists on including the entire certificate, whilst the PGP version (key) has the nice friendly download-it-manually method :) You're joking, right?

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread Deryk Lister
Hi Steve, On Tuesday 08/08/2000 at 16:31, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 8:20:58 AM, Deryk wrote: I don't think Microsoft invented S/MIME (which would explain everything as well) but they were certainly behind it a lot. Certainly

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread Graham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Curtis, Monday, August 07, 2000, 11:13:59 PM, you wrote: SL If there are any other PMMail people on here I'm sure they would SL back me up in saying that the interface for PMMail was much more SL slick and polished than TB!'s is. I'd love to

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-08 Thread phil
Greetings Steve! On Tuesday, August 08, 2000 at 08:31:54 GMT -0700 (which was 8:31 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: SL Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 8:20:58 AM, Deryk wrote: I don't think Microsoft invented S/MIME (which would explain everything as well) but they were

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-07 Thread Arjan Vergeer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Who the hell made that standard!? The consortium of DSL providersto get people off modems Yeesh! 41 lines to sign a message!? PGP does it in *7*. I was wondering too... and the extra window is really irritating me! And I can't find a

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-07 Thread Deryk Lister
Some argue digital signatures don't belong in Public Mailing Lists, yet I would argue otherwise. PGP, GPG signatures are ok. But that travesty called S/MIME has got to go! 2870 bytes to sign something far less than that!? Yep :) Personally I'm not having a go at the people who use it

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-07 Thread Deryk Lister
SL PGP, GPG signatures are ok. But that travesty called S/MIME has got SL to go! 2870 bytes to sign something far less than that!? Yeah, the signatures are too long. Do they really have to be that long to maintain the desired standard of authentication? Not really. S/MIME insists on

Re[2]: Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)

2000-08-07 Thread Gary
Hi Nick, On Monday, August 07, 2000, 5:46 PM, you wrote in part about "Signing of Messages (Was: Re: List server rules)": N I wonder why PGP itself hasn't implemented a method that N takes into account the fact some Users have more than one key they N may wish to encrypt to? They have, but in