Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-05 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello MAU, On 4 Sep 2004 at 16:52:30 +0200 GMT [16:52 CEST] you wrote: M> Traditionally on the net, asterisks mean *bold*, underscores mean M> _underlined_, slashes mean /italics/, etc. I know. :) And my text is either naked or underlined. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
Allie_M, [AM] wrote: > I'm a long time OS/2 user. I stopped using it in mid 1999. > How's it going now with that OS. Is it still viable in that apps are > being still actively developed for it? Shucks! My booboo. I guess it could have been worse, but this was intended as an off-list message. I j

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
Lynn, [L] wrote: > I'd rather be WARP'ed* * *Team OS/2 I'm a long time OS/2 user. I stopped using it in mid 1999. How's it going now with that OS. Is it still viable in that apps are being still actively developed for it? -- -= Allie =- The Bat!™ v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)

Re[2]: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Lynn
Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:32:31 AM, you wrote: MB> Thanks for answering. :) No problem .. had I not got so far behind with my email, due to being gone yesterday, I'd have seen the previous posts describing the situation. Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather b

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Lynn! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 1:20 PM, you wrote: MB>> Therefore, if it's okay, let's have a poll: MB>> 1) For Smiley handles enclosed in colons : : MB>> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > L> Smileys in colons would probably be easier for me to implement .. Enclose

Re[2]: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Lynn
Friday, September 3, 2004, 6:28:38 AM, you wrote: MB> Therefore, if it's okay, let's have a poll: MB> 1) For Smiley handles enclosed in colons : : MB> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > Smileys in colons would probably be easier for me to implement .. TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 11:46 AM, you wrote: ASK>> Dunno - I just created my own smiley theme, and it contains a ASK>> ":-)" handle, of course! ;-) MB> That explains why I don't see it--neither in the default.msl nor MB> in the pcwsmileys.msl as downloaded (default with TB!,

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 11:19 AM, you wrote: ASK>>> ... the smiley interpreter doesn't interpret anything in ,,, <> < ... > ASK> I mean - I placed "" as a handle there. Including the ASK> "chevrons" aka pointed brackets. Placing "*g*" is interpreted, ASK> however. Ah.

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull, 04-Sep-2004 18:08, you wrote: MB>>> ASK>> ... the smiley interpreter doesn't interpret anything in ,,, <> > This is how it has always been. Take a look at the .msl files in The > Bat!/Images. TB! will only call the image as a text replacement for > the "handle," which you can

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 10:42 AM, you wrote: MB>> ASK> ... the smiley interpreter doesn't interpret anything in ,,, <> This is how it has always been. Take a look at the .msl files in The Bat!/Images. TB! will only call the image as a text replacement for the "handle,

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Andre Wichartz, 04-Sep-2004 15:29, you wrote: > Sorry to jump in here, I just tested a little bit - here (v2.12) the smiley interpreter doesn't interpret anything in chevrons <> ... no no nothing, it just appears as-is... In addition, it only interprets smileys if they aren't following

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread MAU
Hello Andre, MB>> But, Andre, I use *asterisks* to indicate emphasis, > > I don't. And for exactly for that reason. If I need to show emphasis > which is seldom enough i use underscores. Traditionally on the net, asterisks mean *bold*, underscores mean _underlined_, slashes mean /italics/, etc.

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Andre! On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 8:29 AM, you wrote: MB>> :grin: Okay. < > 4 * * 1 MB>> But, Andre, I use *asterisks* to indicate emphasis, AW> I don't. And for exactly for that reason. If I need to show AW> emphasis which is seldom enough i use underscores. Well, I think I had

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-04 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Mary, On 3 Sep 2004 at 10:57:06 -0500 GMT [17:57 CEST] you wrote: MB> :grin: Okay. < > 4 * * 1 MB> But, Andre, I use *asterisks* to indicate emphasis, I don't. And for exactly for that reason. If I need to show emphasis which is seldom enough i use underscores. I realize I'm not coming

Re[3]: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Lynn
Friday, September 3, 2004, 12:35:55 AM, you wrote: ASK> Btw., is there a feature request open for an ASK> interpreter that turn ASK> *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and ASK> /those/ into italics ASK> when using the RTV? I'd support that! (my old ASK> "ZConnect" point program ASK> Micr

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eric! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 1:38 PM, you wrote: MB>>> Let's see how many would truly prefer a change from MB>>> colon enclosures, and I'll get back to you. ASK>> Count me in as a pointed-bracket-preferer. :) E> And me. So that's: 5 for pointed-brackets, or angle-brackets, < >

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Eric
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:33:55 +0200 GMT(03/09/2004, 16:33 + GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK> Hello Mary Bull, ASK> 03-Sep-2004 15:58, you wrote: >> Let's see how many would truly prefer a change from >> colon enclosures, and I'll get back to you. ASK> Count me in as a pointed-bracket-prefe

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 12:48 PM, you wrote: MB>> Yes. But with the smiley interpreter on, the handles without MB>> colons in the default.msl can be startling, and I see that 9Val MB>> has still not had time to edit them. 9> Hmm, quite strange, I've deleted I am so glad to he

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread 9Val
Hello Mary, MB> Yes. But with the smiley interpreter on, the handles without colons in MB> the default.msl can be startling, and I see that 9Val has still not MB> had time to edit them. Hmm, quite strange, I've deleted MB> " GRR ," " grr ," and " headshot " and other handles without colons f

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Friday, September 3, 2004, 17:49, Andre Wichartz wrote: > I vote for * * :p Me too. ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media [The Bat! v2.12.03 without BayesIt on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] > Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Andre! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 10:49 AM, you wrote: MB>> Therefore, if it's okay, let's have a poll: MB>> 1) For Smiley handles enclosed in colons : : MB>> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > AW> I vote for * * :p :grin: Okay. < > 4 * * 1 But, Andre, I use *asteris

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Mary, On 3 Sep 2004 at 08:28:38 -0500 GMT [15:28 CEST] you wrote: MB> Therefore, if it's okay, let's have a poll: MB> 1) For Smiley handles enclosed in colons : : MB> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > I vote for * * :p -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on And

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 10:33 AM, you wrote: ASK> Count me in as a pointed-bracket-preferer. :) Okay, that puts the count at 4. Thanks a bunch for your response. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 __

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull, 03-Sep-2004 15:58, you wrote: > Thank you so very much for your kind offer. Let's see how many would > truly prefer a change from colon enclosures, and I'll get back to you. Count me in as a pointed-bracket-preferer. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - IC

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allen! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 10:00 AM, you wrote: AD>>> As for :: v. <>, I really don't care either way. ... MB>> That was the impression I had in regard to many who are using MB>> Plain Text View, when the discussion took place on tbbeta. AD> Right--from plain-text side,

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Eric
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 14:12:04 +0200 GMT(03/09/2004, 13:12 + GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK>>> Btw., is there a feature request open for an ASK>>> interpreter that turn *this* into bold and _that_ ASK>>> into underlined and /those/ into italics when using ASK>>> the RTV? >> Yes, there are: >

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 9:24 AM, you wrote: MB>> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > TF> I would like this better. Okay, including Roelof, this makes 2 openly expressing this preference so far. Thanks so much for responding. TF> I understand Allen's caveat abo

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mary, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:28:38 -0500 GMT (03/09/2004, 20:28 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB> 2) For Smiley handles enclosed in brackets < > I would like this better. I understand Allen's caveat about HTML tags, I'm just uttering a wish as a (plain text) user. <> *are* quite common, p

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mic! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 8:35 AM, you wrote: Mary>> I hope that 9Val will soon edit the default.msl file to enclose Mary>> all handles in colons there. MicCullen> No offence to anyone, but I'd prefer they fixed bugs rather MicCullen> than play with toys that aren't much use in t

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allen! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 8:43 AM, you wrote: MB>> As "Keeper of the Smileys," I can easily edit every handle of the MB>> PCWize Smileys "Smileys" page to have a brackets (< >) enclosure MB>> rather than a colons enclosure. It would be a bit time-consuming, MB>> but I can do tha

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Friday, September 3, 2004 @ 8:31:32 PM, Mary Bull wrote: [snips] Mary> I hope that 9Val will soon edit the default.msl Mary> file to enclose all handles in colons there. No offence to anyone, but I'd prefer they fixed bugs rather than play with toys that aren't much use in the real world, wh

Re: No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 7:48 AM, you wrote: MB>> This is the reason that all the handles on the Smileys page are MB>> enclosed in colons. I hope that 9Val will soon edit the MB>> default.msl file to enclose all handles in colons there. RO> Oh no, not colons, I'd prefer <> (d

No more colons (was: Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not)

2004-09-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 07:31:32 -0500GMT (3-9-2004, 14:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB> This is the reason that all the handles on the Smileys page are MB> enclosed in colons. I hope that 9Val will soon edit the default.msl MB> file to enclose all handles in colons there. Oh no, n

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 2:35 AM, you wrote: ASK>>> I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their ASK>>> relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they ASK>>> leave on the user side, rather than being pressed into a ASK>>> graphical image. Stop th

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Meyns, 03-Sep-2004 11:51, you wrote: ASK>> Btw., is there a feature request open for an interpreter that turn ASK>> *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and /those/ into italics ASK>> when using the RTV? > Yes, there are: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0001902 and > ht

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Alexander, on Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:35:55 +0200GMT, you wrote: ASK> Btw., is there a feature request open for an interpreter that turn ASK> *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and /those/ into italics ASK> when using the RTV? Yes, there are: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0001902

Re[2]: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Michael Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 n'abend A.Translator, Friday, September 3, 2004, 9:56:12 AM: >> Btw., is there a feature request open for an interpreter that turn >> *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and /those/ into italics >> when using the RTV? I'd support that! (my ol

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread A.Translator
Op Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:35:55 +0200 schreef Alexander S. Kunz: > Btw., is there a feature request open for an interpreter that turn > *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and /those/ into italics > when using the RTV? I'd support that! (my old "ZConnect" point program > MicroDot on the Amiga

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Alexander, On 03-09-2004 09:35, you [ASK] wrote in : ASK> Btw., is there a feature request open for an interpreter that turn ASK> *this* into bold and _that_ into underlined and /those/ into ASK> italics when using the RTV? I'd support that! (my old "ZConnect" ASK> point pro

Re[2]: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:58:43 PM, you wrote: ASK>> I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their ASK>> relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they leave ASK>> on the user side, rather than being pressed into a graphical ASK>> image. Stop the suffe

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, Thanks for your reply that I assume (I am pretty sure) it was intended to be PM. I will reply off-list. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' info

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:07 PM, you wrote: MAU>> I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make MAU>> comments about smileys ;-) ASK> I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their ASK> relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val, 02-Sep-2004 22:27, you wrote: > It is hard to communicate in this case. Maxim explained official position H, where is that information to be found? > and there is nothing to add and it is not situation there unofficial > positions should be expressed I think most of us would a

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread 9Val
Hello MAU, M> - I didn't like the way and rush Ritlabs threw the new release on us. Me too :) M> - I didn't like the lack of communication. It is hard to communicate in this case. Maxim explained official position and there is nothing to add and it is not situation there unofficial

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:23 PM, you wrote: M> In Spain we say: "A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey". I like that. MB>> It's marketing. The company has to live, financially. I'm happy to MB>> support them, and so far they have given very fine support to me. M> As I

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, > It was spot on as far as I can see. Thanks Stuart, I owe you a beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silver

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > And I do agree with you that v. 3.0 is a beta (to quote Shakespeare, > "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"--or not, as the case > may be. ). In Spain we say: "A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey". > It's marketing. The company has to live, financially. I'm happ

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU, 02-Sep-2004 19:21, you wrote: > I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about > smileys ;-) I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they leave on the user side, rather than being press

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:24:02 AM, you wrote: M> I don't know if my contribution to beta testing the NFS was good, bad, M> valuable or not. It certainly took quite a bit of my time, although I M> enjoyed it. But if RITLabs wants to count on me... new Beta cycle. It was spot on

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:21 PM, you wrote: MB>> Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? M> I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about M> smileys ;-) Not needed. I understand and respect the point of view of those who wish they'd never be

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? > You can view it at > http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php > since I have no doubt that both of you are in PTV Mode. :) I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about smileys ;-) -- Best regards, Migu

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Nick! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 11:57 AM, you wrote: ND> I wish that I could adopt Mary's positive approach (and I suspect ND> she's a much happier person than for it!), but I'm suffering a mild ND> form of cumulative disappointment with TB! Nothing terminal I suppose, ND> but sad al

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Miguel, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:24:02 PM, you wrote: M> One thing is finding a bug here and there... They could start with the installer! In a moment of weakness, during a lull in my afternoon, I was going to have a peek at v3. I backed everything up, God knows there have been enou

TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello all, - I didn't like the way and rush Ritlabs threw the new release on us. - I didn't like the lack of communication. - I didn't mind paying for the upgrade and I think I was one of the first to do so. But after a couple of days of using v3.0 for my normal work and reading the reports in