Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-04 Thread Wayne King
A Nothing like 3 pages of A quotes followed by a reply that reads something like A Right :-) You got that right! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
MAU wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? Well, for example, I can't tell quite what you just fully agreed with. I purge my TBUDL folder when I leave it, and the antecedent of your post

Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread Arthur Tan
Hi, MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. E I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts E received. I also very much dislike going through quoted E messaging to get to the response. I usually read in real E time,

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, One has to chose a point of compromise. I agree and that is what I usually do. Or don't I? :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL'

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread MAU
Hello Michael, I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? Well, for example, I can't tell quite what you just fully agreed with. Yes, no quoting at all is probably no good if not everybody is viewing threads. I purge

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-02 Thread Michael L. Cusac
MAU wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I purge my TBUDL folder when I leave it, and the antecedent of your post is gone; Then mid: links are of no use to you, correct? :) Sometimes they are useful to me, if I've gone a while without catching up and purging. But for the most part, they don't

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Wayne King, [WK] wrote: WK In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll WK down past the quoted text to read the response. This annoyance leads one to trim when not top posting, another vital rule for discussion lists, i.e., no overquoting. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Allen wrote: Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce any sort of quoting policy--since it would all,

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Michael L. Cusac
Wayne King wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll down past the quoted text to read the response. One especially annoying example was a message in this list that I just read. I had to scroll down below quoted text only to find a thank you

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT (1-6-04, 17:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm MLC bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an Not really, but I suppose you could alter the

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Michael, on Tue, 1 Jun 2004 10:31:52 -0500GMT, you wrote: MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? I don't see it, but I'm MLC bad at finding features I'm not already using, and I'm also using an MLC old version of TB! Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. MLC

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread ETM
MLC Does TB! have no way to suppress quoted text? Delete the %QUOTES macro from your reply template. I think he is after suppressing quoted text in posts received. I also very much dislike going through quoted messaging to get to the response. I usually read in real time, remember the

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread MAU
Hello ETM, I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to scroll down to find the first line of the response) I

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread ETM
I usually read messages in the preview pane. If the height of the pane is full with quoted text (i.e. I have to scroll down to find the first line of the response) I usually just skip that message. I also read in preview pane making top quoting very unpleasant and usually qualifying it for an

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread MAU
Hello ETM, unread throwaway. Hmmm, unread throwaway. I like that term :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Allie Martin
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: MU I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like MU this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? Giving no information about the message you're replying to is unacceptable and assumes that all readers thread their messages. This actually annoys me

Re[2]: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Wayne King
Hi Allen, Tuesday, June 1, 2004, 7:37:29 AM, you wrote: A Even if all that is irrelevant, there is some value in a strictly inforced A 'my way or the highway' approach--if there were conditions on when top A posting was and was not accepted, it would be near impossible to enforce A any

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-06-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (02/06/2004, 08:28 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: MU I fully agree with you and do the same. Messages in lists like MU this one can be viewed as threads, why quote then? AM Giving no information about the message you're replying to is AM

Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread ken green
Peter Meyns wrote: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? I'm copying this over to TBOT to move discussion there. I'm curious about the logic of the above point from Peter's tag line (which I agree with) and applying the same logic to

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Allie Martin
ken green wrote: One thing that threw a wrench in the workings of my perception on this was the idea of a physical Inbox, and realizing that new messages at top more closely resembles a real-world Inbox. We do it that way since we can't really do any better when managing and organising physical

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi ken, On Mon, 31 May 2004, at 11:05:24 [GMT -0500] (which was 10:05 AM where I live) you wrote: kg I'm curious about the logic of the above point from Peter's tag kg line (which I agree with) and applying the same logic to message kg list view. On folders where I view threads (mainly lists),

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread ken green
Allie Martin wrote: We do it that way since we can't really do any better when managing and organising physical objects which is what snail mail is about. Electronic data offers a lot more flexibility and ease with organizing without presenting practical difficulties. To be clear, I wasn't

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Cyrille
Hello Ken, Monday, May 31, 2004, 6:05:24 PM, you wrote: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? kg It would seem that if logical flow of conversation is a main kg argument for top-posting, a similar argument could be used for viewing kg a

OT: Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Cyrille, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, at 00:11:08 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:11 PM where I live) you wrote: C Did you ever have a look at the transmission protocols in the C headers of email messages with this question in mind??? It is not C exactly what you would call a logical flow... (-: It is a kind

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Wayne King
A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? kg I'm curious about the logic of the above point from Peter's tag line kg (which I agree with) and applying the same logic to message list view. kg Do the anti-top-posting crusaders (or even those that

Re: Top-Posting and message list (was Re: The Bat! Help File)

2004-05-31 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Wayne, On Mon, 31 May 2004, at 21:54:21 [GMT -0600] (which was 9:54 PM where I live) you wrote: WK In the latter case, it very much annoys me to have to scroll down WK past the quoted text to read the response. One especially annoying WK example was a message in this list that I just read. I