Sunday, January 09, 2000, 4:57:41 PM, Quin wrote:
When you don't like other users' suggestions, you demand they
work/think/behave like you and get along without whatever has been
suggested. Of course, you could take a risk and learn to get along
_with_ some features you haven't approved just
Hello, The Bat Users!
TF - "Kill file". Right clicking on a message automatically sets
TF up a filter moving messages by that author into a specified
TF box.
You've already got that - hit Ctrl-Shift-F in the message list window
when you've marked the appropriate message and a dialog
Friday, January 07, 2000, 6:10:38 PM, Januk wrote:
It would appear to me that people are not seeing the obvious. There
is a way to fill both needs, and that's through the appropriate use of
plug ins.
Plug-ins are not the end-all, be-all answer, trust me.
When implemented correctly, you
Friday, January 07, 2000, 7:21:36 PM, Allie wrote:
IOW, if user X, in the spirit of being human, fails to fill in the subject
and messes up a thread, many innocents will suffer for it.
Noone suffered from it. People who replied could have just as easily
changed topics as well.
This is
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 1:20:45 AM, Quin wrote:
True. But that's the purpose of the pop-up: to verify if that's your
intention.
Right. If it is blank, that is my intention. I don't want the computer
to question me. It is dumb, I am not. I don't need it verifying and approval
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 1:33:54 AM, Douglas wrote:
But
"show kludges" shift+ctrl+k is not the same as:
"show headers." shift+ctrl+h
But the kludges it is showing *are* the headers as defined by RFC822. In
short, TB! had taken a common term and mangled it. This is bad, especially
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 4:58:38 AM, Allie wrote:
This means that you'll see the delete confirmation whenever you wish to do a
delete operation deemed 'dubious'. Still in contrast to a popup message that
appears *only* when you fail to do the right thing. :)
However, in this case,
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 7:51:40 AM, Tim wrote:
That's true, but they would have the same function as the other
buttons - you wouldn't have to take your hand off the mouse.
Assumption is that the hands were on the mouse in the first place. ;)
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:27:47 +0300, Andrew K. Lovetski wrote:
[..snip..]
AM b) Upon creation, the filter rule is added by default to the
AM bottom of the list of filter rules. Since the proper functioning
AM of the filter may depend on where it lies in the filter list, this
AM may create
In Reference to "Wish list from a new user of The Bat" From Steve Lamb:
SL I hope they neither read nor follow anything from Microsoft. MS has not
SL built anything decent, ever.
They have built themselves one hell of a bottom line. ;-)
--
- Nick
Nick Danger's Complimen
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 07:55:45AM -0600, Nick Danger wrote:
They have built themselves one hell of a bottom line. ;-)
So does a professional killer, doesn't mean either of them should be
emulated.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 09:41:09PM +0700, tracer wrote:
The only thing which almost always works...
Never hardlocked your machine, I take it? Or had windows intercept it and
cheerily tell you you're waiting for Windows to display the right dialog...
yet have windows lock so it never will?
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:48:42 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
[..snip..]
You also should put a sig delimiter, have the sig less than 5 lines,
write in English, use proper spelling, quote properly, do not ramble on
excessively, not flame someone, etc.
I do not advocate the computer making a
In Reference to "Wish list from a new user of The Bat" From Steve Lamb:
They have built themselves one hell of a bottom line. ;-)
SL So does a professional killer, doesn't mean either of them should be
SL emulated.
Ah, a paid assassin! Isn't that what Janet Reno is?
(oops,
Hi there!
On 9 Jan 00, at 3:24, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Wish list from a new user of Th":
It would appear to me that people are not seeing the obvious. There
is a way to fill both needs, and that's through the appropriate use of
plug ins.
Plug-ins are not the end-all,
Steve wrote:
BTW, CNTL-ALT-DEL in NT is to login.
Grrr.
I thought that this was a joke when I first saw it.
But let's not even go there.
Derek, who still has a problem pressing those keys when logging on at
work.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -'95 Concours
DoD #1359 COG #2103 SR #772 AEE
Sunday, January 09, 2000, 6:35:39 AM, Allie wrote:
BTW: Although the RFC was good information, it was a refute to a point I
didn't make. I specifically said that the subject inclusion was not a must
and that it was proper. Netiquette guidelines instruct you on what you
should do, not what you
On Sunday 9 January 2000 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
On 9 Jan 00, at 3:24, Steve Lamb wrote:
Plug-ins are not the end-all, be-all answer, trust me.
I agree here. After all, the logical extension of this is the null
application which does *nothing* other that to make calls to its
plug-ins!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Sullivan)
Date: 03/10/20, 06:54:23 ã
Subject: Re: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
On Sunday 9 January 2000 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
On 9 Jan 00, at 3:24, Steve Lamb wrote
Hi John,
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:54:23 +GMT (10/01/2000, 02:54 +0800GMT),
John Sullivan wrote:
JS Going back to MS's Object Model design guide[1], one of the design
JS models they recommend is that the host application implement events
May I comment here that Object-Oriented Progamming (OOP)
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 06:47:11 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, January 09, 2000, 9:47:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 09:41:09PM +0700, tracer wrote:
The only thing which almost always works...
Steve Never
Hello dMb,
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:42:37 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, January 09, 2000, 11:42:37 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
dMb wrote:
dMb Steve wrote:
BTW, CNTL-ALT-DEL in NT is to login.
dMb Grrr.
dMb I thought that this was a joke when I first saw it.
To be honest my
Hello Thomas,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 11:07:55 PM, you wrote:
QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message
QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a
QS REMINDER rather than a WARNING.
TF I side with Steve here: the reminder is
On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 09:51:50PM -0500, Allie Martin wrote:
It's one thing to have a popup message appear only when you failed
to do something rather than have it appear anytime you wish to do
something. IOW comparing the popup message for deletions that has to be
dealt with upon
On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 01:02:53AM -0700, Quin Selman wrote:
If you always remember to fill in your subject line you'll never see
it. On the other hand, if you forget, it will be there to ask you if
you want to send the message without a stated subject. Since you
apparently always remember,
Hello Steve,
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 1:51:11 AM, you wrote:
SL On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 01:02:53AM -0700, Quin Selman wrote:
If you always remember to fill in your subject line you'll never see
it. On the other hand, if you forget, it will be there to ask you if
you want to send the
Hello Tim all fellow TBUDL members,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 1:00:15 PM, Tim wrote in response to:
- Configurable toolbar, so you can remove unwanted buttons and add
others that you do want (I'd quite like a 'show kludges' button.
How about "show kludges" renamed to what it is, "show
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 00:49:02 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
It's one thing to have a popup message appear only when you
failed to do something rather than have it appear anytime you wish to
do something. IOW comparing the popup message for deletions that has to
be dealt with upon every
Hi,
I've been using The Bat for a couple of weeks now, and I've already
registered it as it is by far the best Windows mail client I've used.
However, one thing I don't seem to be able to master is to setup a
filter to catch most of the spam sent to me. I've got quite a few
email addresses
Hello Tim,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:23:22 PM, you wrote:
TF - A warning if you try to send messages without any subject (I
TFfrequently forget to add a subject, so have got used to this
TFfeature in other email programs. Since I got The Bat I have sent
TFseveral emails without
Great suggestions...I agree with all of them... I just have two
comments:
- A warning if you try to send messages without any subject (I
frequently forget to add a subject, so have got used to this
feature in other email programs. Since I got The Bat I have sent
several emails without subjects
Hallo Tim,
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:23:22 + GMT (07.01.2000, 21:23 +0800 GMT),
Tim Fountain wrote:
TF So, I created a filter with the following in the strings field:
TF'tim | acornarcade | iconbar | webmaster'
TF That checks the recipient field and has 'no' ticked for 'present'.
TF
Hello Thomas,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:06:44 PM, you wrote:
TF This ("|") is an "OR" operation. What you want is and "AND" operaton:
TF IF .NOT.tim .AND. .NOT.acornarcade .AND. .NOT.iconbar .AND.
TF .NOT.webmaster THEN move the mail to the spam folder.
TF You do this as follows (I think):
On Friday, January 07, 2000, Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:23:22 PM, you wrote:
TF - Option to colour signature's with a different colour to the rest
TFof the message.
How would you recognize where the .sig is? By the "-- " part? Not all
.sig's have this...
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:23:22 +, Tim Fountain wrote:
[..snip..]
However, one thing I don't seem to be able to master is to setup a
filter to catch most of the spam sent to me. I've got quite a few
email addresses (about 30), but all of them contain either 'tim',
'acornarcade', 'iconbar',
Friday, January 07, 2000, 8:38:47 AM, Allie wrote:
A very effective method that I use for spam filtering (I got the tip from
Steve Lamb) is based on two principles. The first is that message
If anyone is interested in seeing examples of this, albiet for another
email client (PMMail), look
Friday, January 07, 2000, 5:23:22 AM, Tim wrote:
The only thing I don't like about The Bat is the fact that it quotes with
'' instead of ' '. I find a piece of quoted text that looks like this:
Funny, this is quoted from you and is starts with " "
- A warning if you try to send messages
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:42:03 +0100, Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
[..snip..]
TF - "Kill file". Right clicking on a message automatically sets up
TFa filter moving messages by that author into a specified box.
You've already got that - hit Ctrl-Shift-F in the message list window
when you've
On Friday, January 07, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote:
Friday, January 07, 2000, 5:23:22 AM, Tim wrote:
The only thing I don't like about The Bat is the fact that it quotes with
'' instead of ' '. I find a piece of quoted text that looks like this:
Funny, this is quoted from you and is starts
Friday, January 07, 2000, 11:00:15 AM, Tim wrote:
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant when quoting quoted text.
The text I wrote above is now prefixed by '', when I would prefer
' '.
Ah. Personally I prefer no spaces between 's since screen space is
limited.
- A warning if
Hello Steve,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 10:01:34 AM, in response to the wish,
- A warning if you try to send messages without any subject (I
frequently forget to add a subject, so have got used to this
feature in other email programs. Since I got The Bat I have sent
several emails
In Reference to "Wish list from a new user of The Bat" From Quin Selman:
QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message
QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a
QS REMINDER rather than a WARNING.
So you're one of th
Friday, January 07, 2000, 1:18:12 PM, Quin wrote:
Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message
and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a
REMINDER rather than a WARNING.
Eyes look up at the subject line, it is blank. I'd call that
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:09:44 PM, Tim wrote:
I doubt many people use the CC and BCC fields on most of the emails
they send, however I expect most people enter a subject.
I'm willing to bet most people don't.
HINT: whenever I start a statement with "I'm willing to bet" I'm willing
Hello Nick,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:47:24 PM, you wrote:
ND In Reference to "Wish list from a new user of The Bat" From Quin Selman:
QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message
QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we coul
On Friday, January 07, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote:
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:09:44 PM, Tim wrote:
I doubt many people use the CC and BCC fields on most of the emails
they send, however I expect most people enter a subject.
I'm willing to bet most people don't.
HINT: whenever I start a
Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:22:54 PM, Quin wrote:
Have you ever forgotten to put a stamp on an envelope before you mailed it?
I've forgotten to put Christmas cards inside the envelope before licking
and sealing them, doesn't mean I want a little text on the back of each, "Did
you put the
Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:27:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, January 07, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote:
Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:09:44 PM, Tim wrote:
I doubt many people use the CC and BCC fields on most of the emails
they send, however I expect most people enter a subject.
I'm willing to bet
Hello Thomas,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 6:06:44 AM, you wrote:
Hallo Tim,
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:23:22 + GMT (07.01.2000, 21:23 +0800 GMT),
Tim Fountain wrote:
TF So, I created a filter with the following in the strings field:
TF'tim | acornarcade | iconbar | webmaster'
TF That
Hello,
Friday, January 07, 2000, 4:55:46 PM, I wrote:
What you have suggested ends up with the same truth table as the one
I've suggested, however, I don't know if that's how the Bat operates.
Just in case anyone needs a slightly more rigorous proof, there is a
theorem which states:
Not( A
Hello Januk,
EXCELLENT COMPROMISE!
I love the idea.
(note, that's not yelling, that's cheering ;)
Derek
Written in response to your letter of Friday, January 07, 2000, 9:10:38 PM:
JA Hello Steve,
JA Friday, January 07, 2000, 3:32:14 PM, you wrote:
JA snip a overly long and pointless
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:32:14 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
I've forgotten to put Christmas cards inside the envelope before licking
and sealing them, doesn't mean I want a little text on the back of each, "Did
you put the card in first?"
It's one thing to have a popup message appear
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:40:19 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
For anyone who sorts their messages by subject, the two 'threads' would be
merged.
Tough luck. Doesn't mean there should be coddling for it.
cough Err, I beg you a pardon?? I beg to interject here. I
believe every man should
On Saturday 8 January 2000 Januk Aggarwal wrote:
As I understand it, RIT has
already said that in V2, they will support plug ins. So what more do
we need?
I hope they read Microsoft's documents on good Object Model design,
and the value of automation. And, unlike Microsoft, follow that
Hallo Carsten,
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:29:49 +0100 GMT (07.01.2000, 23:29 +0800 GMT),
Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
TF Rules on the tab are considered as having been true at the same time,
TF to make the filter kick in.
CD Just a thing on terminology, because this confused me and it might not
CD have
Hallo Tim,
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:27:50 + GMT (08.01.2000, 07:27 +0800 GMT),
Tim Fountain wrote:
For people like me who sometimes forget to enter a subject, a
gentle reminder if I try to send a subject-less message to the
outbox would be useful. For someone who (for whatever reason) likes
Hallo Quin,
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:18:12 -0700 GMT (08.01.2000, 05:18 +0800 GMT),
Quin Selman wrote:
QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message
QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a
QS REMINDER rather than a WARNING.
I side
On Friday, January 07, 2000, 10:07:55 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
I side with Steve here: the reminder is teh empty subject line. BTW,
make it your habit to fill in the subject first.
Oh, so THAT'S what you have to do. ;o) Give me a break !!
Whether you call a pop-up window a "warning" or
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