Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hi Jast, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:25:53 PM, you wrote: Morning Eberhard, I did a more detailed explanation on auto-completion quite some time ago, but you'd have to search the archives for it as I lost it :-( Hmm. I wonder if it is worth it as it doesn't really seem to work any way I

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Steve, Monday, May 01, 2000, 4:49:46 PM, you wrote: A different key? HUH? UHM, TB! allows you to check multiple accounts. It has automatic checking on those accounts. You can filter from one account to another. There are also products out there that are better suited to what

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Allie, Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:26:42 PM, you wrote: I am aware of that. You define a template for that folder to add the mailing list address. you hit CNTL-N and it is there. What part of that does not coincide with what he wants? Nothing. :-9 Hmmm. Ok. Place this macro in

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Cristian, On 02 May 2000 at 03:43:42 GMT +0300 (which was 01:43 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "TB! WishList": That's a question of (English) terminology, so I cannot comment it further. The programmer of PMMail is an US citizen. I trust his

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 10:34:00 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Yes because Shift-CNTL-Del doesn't delete a single message. You're missing the point. When I read in Mutt in threaded display to delete both single messages and threads I use one key. CNTL-D. That's it. I don't have to decide "Oh,

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Alberto, On Tue, 2 May 2000 19:48:53 +0200 GMT (03.05.2000, 01:48 +0800 GMT), Alberto Almagioni wrote: AA In few words I have a filter on principals accounts that redirect the AA messages on my GSM phone through SMS, but I'd like that this filter AA works only when TheBat! check these

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 3 May 2000 01:36:25 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM I don't know about the others, but I don't understand what it is you AM are asking. :-( Would you expand? GSM = Global System for Mobile Communication = digital mobile (cellular) phone system most popular everywhere in the world,

Wish List (was Re: Automatic send)

2000-05-02 Thread Alberto Almagioni
On Wed, 3 May 2000 02:00:08 +0800GMT (02/05/2000, 20.00 +0100GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: AA In few words I have a filter on principals accounts that redirect the AA messages on my GSM phone through SMS, but I'd like that this filter AA works only when TheBat! check these accounts automaically

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Alberto Almagioni
On Tue, 2 May 2000 19:29:50 +0200GMT (02/05/2000, 19.29 +0100GMT), Roel wrote: Hi Allie On Tue, 2 May 2000 12:21:13 -0500GMT (which was 2/05/00, 19:21 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: AM I don't know about the others, but I don't understand what it is AM you are asking. :-( Would you

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Allie, On Tue, 2 May 2000 12:21:13 -0500 GMT (03.05.2000, 01:21 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: I'm trying to make a filter that send to my gsm via sms the principals headers of filtered e-mail: i need to know if it's possible to set the filter to automatically send the mail.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 10:18:20 AM, Allie wrote: TB!'s threading is useless to you for that single reason?! Especially since del deletes the message? del delete message ShiftCNTRLDel Delete whole thread. Yes because Shift-CNTL-Del doesn't delete a single message. You're missing the

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 12:29:23 +0200, Alberto Almagioni wrote: I'm trying to make a filter that send to my gsm via sms the principals headers of filtered e-mail: i need to know if it's possible to set the filter to automatically send the mail. Thank you. I don't know about the others,

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 09:57:29 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Problem is that TB! doesn't intuitively delete threads, either. Let me give you an example. Select a message that has no other messages on it, press CNTL-DEL. Nothing happens because it isn't a thread. No, fire up mutt and,

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 9:06:47 AM, Alexander wrote: Nah, I don't think TB's threading is so bad. It could be made much better when the _usability_ is concerned, but technically it's implemented very well Agreed. See previous message. *whistles innocently in the background.*

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 9:18:51 AM, Allie wrote: Deleting messages therefore no longer collapse threads as easily and also deleting a message doesn't no longer collapsed the thread. Problem is that TB! doesn't intuitively delete threads, either. Let me give you an example. Select a

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 7:51, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": There was also this great guy called Bill Gates who put everything that people wanted into a large, monolithic application. It is now unwieldy, bloated, difficult to use and understand. That's true.

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 7:48, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: TB! WishList": Have you thought of using the 'total' and 'total unread' columns in the message list? It can easily tell you how many messages are in each thread and how many messages in each thread are unread. You can

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 07:48:05 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Have you thought of using the 'total' and 'total unread' columns in the message list? It can easily tell you how many messages are in each thread and how many messages in each thread are unread. You can therefore get the exact information

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 7:07:10 PM, Allie wrote: Have you thought of using the 'total' and 'total unread' columns in the message list? It can easily tell you how many messages are in each thread and how many messages in each thread are unread. You can therefore get the exact information that

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 10:58:42 AM, Allie wrote: Anyway, TB! does it here. Each beta has at the bottom "And some minor cosmetic fixes". I see from your message headers, that you're using beta18. Could this be the reason why you think that I may be smoking? :-) I suggest that you check.

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Ralf Buschmann
Dear Allie, you wrote on Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 02:40:35: [snip] AM I write: AM The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. AM The line above is not to be auto-formatted. I then decide to re-edit and AM insert some extra words. AM The quick brown fox, before making a great

sorry!

2000-05-02 Thread Alberto Almagioni
I'm so sorry... I didn't see the option... Now it works perfectly. Ciao Al mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://i.am/atoms pgp public key: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/8338/key.html Fingerprint: 23A0 44F1 8D3B 5C78 0054 4E25 8D0A D73E 4664 8E0F --

Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Alberto Almagioni
I'm trying to make a filter that send to my gsm via sms the principals headers of filtered e-mail: i need to know if it's possible to set the filter to automatically send the mail. Thank you. Ciao Al mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://i.am/atoms pgp public key:

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, May 01, 2000, 10:57:53 PM, Eberhard wrote: Thanks for your kindness. I guess I will stick to TB! despite of what you say. Thank God you don't seem to be the programmer. We had a great mailer at its time on Amiga - it was called Voodoo. On the respective mailing list the author was

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 11:18:51 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: beta paragraph quoted: I can far more easily follow threads in this way. I can easily recheck the comments I made to properly reply to your post here. There are a number of reasons why I've returned to threading after a long absence.

Re: Automatic send

2000-05-02 Thread Roel
Hi Allie On Tue, 2 May 2000 12:21:13 -0500GMT (which was 2/05/00, 19:21 +0100GMT for me), you wrote: AM I don't know about the others, but I don't understand what it is AM you are asking. :-( Would you expand? he's talking about the auto-reply-function... (filters - actions - send

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 11:09:12 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Anyway, TB! does it here. Each beta has at the bottom "And some minor cosmetic fixes". I see from your message headers, that you're using beta18. Could this be the reason why you think that I may be smoking? :-) I suggest that you

Wish List II (was Re: Automatic send)

2000-05-02 Thread Alberto Almagioni
On Wed, 3 May 2000 01:36:25 +0800GMT (02/05/2000, 19.36 +0100GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM I don't know about the others, but I don't understand what it is you are AM asking. :-( Would you expand? He wants TB! to send him him notification of each email he receives. I guess he did this

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 11:25:13 AM, Allie wrote: Oh, so there are other reasons. :-) Major reasons. How would you like a thread to be broken up into 5 parts and you completely lose your place because of it? :/ The backend works, the interface is beyond the normal TB! quirkiness into

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 1 May 00, at 19:40, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'": My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve everything. Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Jast
Morning Januk, Not really. Just have each account set to check mail every few minutes. If you have a permanent connection that works like a charm. If you don't have a permanent connection, it still works pretty well, except that TB doesn't have an offline mode. That is a little

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 16:32:46 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard returns inserted by the line-wrapping algorithm? Pardon my slowness for

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 14:57, Allie Martin wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard returns inserted by the

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 2:25:04 PM, Alexander wrote: Allie, no personal offence, please! I didn't mean to insult you, just wanted to stress the idea that if we stay on the grounds of _plain_text_ medium, we need to take into account that there is _no_ paragraph concept applicable to this

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 14:48, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Mistake #1. You're thinking that there are only lines. I see only data which can be represented any number of ways. Let's just say that just because the limitation exists when

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 3:14:59 PM, Alexander wrote: Mistake #1 on your side: you think plain ASCII is a limitation of some (unknown to me) sort, whereas _I_ think ASCII is a _power_, a well-thought standard that those guys who invented "soft returns" and things alike (read: M$ with its Word

template macros

2000-05-02 Thread Max Kessler
Hi, I'm looking for a way to setup filters to bounce spam and send a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should a message template starting with this work? %rexexpblindmatch=%ofromaddr %setpattregexp=".*(@.*)" %cc=postmaster%subpatt=1 Thanks, Max +-+ | Max Kessler

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Tom Plunket
My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve everything. AVK Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way AVK for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard AVK returns inserted by the line-wrapping

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 2 May 00, at 15:38, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": Okay, this has been my last message to this list. I'm sick and tired of those AMERICAN IDIOTS over here who can only shout, can only be unnecessarily rude to others. The next my message

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Tom Plunket
AVK Mistake #1 on your side: you think plain ASCII is a limitation of some AVK (unknown to me) sort, whereas _I_ think ASCII is a _power_, a well-thought AVK standard that those guys who invented "soft returns" and things alike (read: AVK M$ with its Word and heaps of others) just plain

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 3 May 2000 01:25:04 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: 8 In my previous message I suggested that the indented line should be considered as the paragraph _boundary_, note further that I suggested this only as a quick fix to what we have right now (see also below). This would mean

Re[2]: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Gary
Hi Allie, On Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 7:37:56 PM, you wrote in part about "auto-format is too robotic isn't it?": A OK, I understand what you were saying and see that it will indeed A work though in a limited fashion. It was a problem with the wording A of what you had said. Personally, I think

Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 2 May 2000 14:48:06 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: 8 Simple. The block which is a paragraph is the one defined with a hard CR and the one that is not is defined with a soft CR. How TB! defines those is up to the internal logic which is, as I demonstrated, not limited to the logic of

Re[2]: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?

2000-05-02 Thread Gary Luther
Hello All; Well it finally happened. the "autoformat" topic went over the edge. Not only has it wasted a lot of bandwidth but it has also shown that if a topic is discussed long enough that it will eventually bring out the worst side of us. Hm!! SUGGESTION:

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Jast, On Tuesday, May 02, 2000 at 15:14:55 GMT +0200 (which was 6:14 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Morning Januk, How is it annoying? I have one account set to check mail every minute. When I'm online it does just that. When I'm off, I am not bothered. Possibly

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Allie, On Tue, 2 May 2000 at 12:58:42 [GMT -0500], you wrote: AM I just tried it Steve. I am using beta 20. In thread view AM CTRLSHIFTDel deletes single messages with no other messages AM attached. I'm not smoking anything. I'm not hallucinating. :-) I'm AM using TB! version 1.42b20 in

Delete thread on server (was: Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?)

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi List, this thread makes me wonder if I have a "delete thread on server" option in the message dispatcher. I certainly don't want to download this thread at NT$ 60/hour, average about 1K/min, when I get home. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under

Re: Wish List II (was Re: Automatic send)

2000-05-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Alberto, On Tue, 2 May 2000 20:31:31 +0200GMT (03/05/2000, 02:31 +0800GMT), Alberto Almagioni wrote: AA I see an option in the "sorting office/filters" about the screen saver AA status: is this working also on screen-energy-save-option? I don't use AA screensaver but if this works (or could

Re: template macros

2000-05-02 Thread Chuck Smith
On Tuesday, May 02, 2000 at 19:03:38 GMT -0400 (EDT) (which was 7:03 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello Max, Hi, I'm looking for a way to setup filters to bounce spam and send a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should a message template starting with this work?

Re: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Stephen
S So I think the title bar should at least say something like - View S Folder Bat of ServNet Sorted by Receive Time (Ascending) TF ServNet - Bat View Folder (...) TF Why not mention the name fo the folder first, as Netscape mentions the TF name of the web site first? This way, you don't have

Re[2]: TB! WishList

2000-05-02 Thread Eberhard Hafermalz
Hello Steve, Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 4:51:45 PM, you wrote: Monday, May 01, 2000, 10:57:53 PM, Eberhard wrote: There was also this great guy called Bill Gates who put everything that people wanted into a large, monolithic application. It is now unwieldy, bloated, difficult to use and