Re[2]: Backing up address book

2002-12-04 Thread Jim Lanyon
Hello Melissa, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 1:38:53 AM, you wrote: MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address MR Books The Choose button will allow you to choose which address MR book(s) you wish to back up. MR Melissa DOH !!!missed it completely. Thanks -- Jim

Re: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files

2002-12-04 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi, Richard Evans wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I thought .msg was an internet standard ? No, Internet standards and file name extensions are not connected. Yet, the file's contents should follow the 'standard' RFC-822 (and related RFCs). if not any ideas about how to forward html mails

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Mean, On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 4:56:49 AM you [MD] wrote (at least in part): So I, as postmaster, would be receiving bounce messages from users who have been spoofing my return address and routing? That'll get them kicked off the system as fast as I can dig up my logs. With

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 10:07:00 AM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: I'm sorry for being forced to disillusionate you, but this faking bounces ain't fighting spam even in the slightest way. It has nothing in common with any successful spam fighting technology, the effect of bounces and faked

Re: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-12-04 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Daniel, Sorry for my late reply, Sunday ends around mid night here ;-) MAU Hmmm, you got me in spending part of a rainy a dark Sunday MAU afternoon looking at PowerPro. i do apologise for getting you hooked :) Don't apologize, I'm easy to get hooked on this type of things :-)

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Mark, On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:24:29 -0800 your time, you said: MW Are you suggesting that there is a way to prevent Mailwasher from doing MW this? No, I wasn't suggesting it, but as the question has been asked, yes, you can easily prevent

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Peter, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:07:00 +0100 your time, you said: PP ... this faking bounces ain't fighting spam even in the slightest PP way. It has nothing in common with any successful spam fighting PP technology, the effect of

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Mean, On 04:46 04.12.2002, you [Mean Drake ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... You misunderstand. The bounced mail seems to be formatted differently from other replies. It is made to look as if it came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and unless one really analyses the header...well it works. I know it

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Peter, On 11:07 04.12.2002, you [Peter Palmreuther ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... But there the problem is located: ISP can't direct the double bounces to the originator and they can't fire all customers. So the result is: They can fine the customers for sending out mails with a forged

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Simon, On 14:35 04.12.2002, you [Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... at all significant, and if a postmaster is going to whine about the occassional bounced message they've he or she has spend far too much time tracing back to a local Mailwasher user then well, what can I

MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello, I would have thought this _was_ a FAQ type question, but I can't find any mention of it: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the File - Send To - Mail Recipient function from within MS Office apps. Since upgrading to TB!, this option has been greyed

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Johannes, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:21:02 +0100 your time, you said: JP I think it is a good time to remember everyone that eMail is a JP *priviledge*, not a right. Mind you, there are still providers that do JP not offer you a mailbox.

Re: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 15:46, Nick Dutton wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the File - Send To - Mail Recipient function from within MS Office apps. Since upgrading to TB!, this option has been greyed out. I can so it's definitely

Re[2]: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Nick Dutton
Marcus, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 3:03:29 PM, you wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the File - Send To - Mail Recipient function from within MS Office apps. Since upgrading to TB!, this option has been greyed out. MO Can you right click a

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Mean Drake
- Original Message - From: Peter Palmreuther Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Bounce Mail Hello Mean, On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 4:56:49 AM you [MD] wrote (at least in part): First a small thanks for an exhaustive review of bouncing from a postmaster's

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Mean Drake
- Original Message - From: Simon Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Bounce Mail Perhaps the people tugging at their locks over the idea of Mailwasher bouncing messages should grab a copy, being as it is free, and investigate before throwing tantrums

Re: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm
On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 16:07, Nick Dutton wrote: MO Can you right click a file and select Send To - Mail Recipient? Yes, that works. I guess that is a Windows feature. I thought the Office integration worked on the same basis, but apperently it doesn't. From the help file (of Word,

Re[3]: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Jim Lanyon
Hello Nick, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 3:07:17 PM, you wrote: ND Marcus, ND Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 3:03:29 PM, you wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I had the same problem recently after a PC upgrade. My memory is hazy on this, but I believe I

Re: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Geoff Lane
On 04 December 2002, 14:46, Nick Dutton wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the File - Send To - Mail Recipient function from within MS Office apps. Since upgrading to TB!, this option has been greyed out. ~~~ Using TB with MS Office 2000

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Simon, On 15:58 04.12.2002, you [Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... Huh? What are you on about exactly? To speak on a bit more ironical terms, the fact that my mail server accepts mails from you is a priviledge, not a right. Please don't think it is targeted at you, you're just an

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Mean, On 16:14 04.12.2002, you [Mean Drake ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... What about [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically, since your mail client tries to imitate a bounce but does not supply a NULL sender to the mail server, it does change nothing but generates a whole bunch more of load onto

Re: Replace reply-to address

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Simon, On 20:08 20.11.2002, you [Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... ;) Yeah, I know :) Thought I'd avoid that. I am just very finicky, and I think it looks really scruffy, especially as the name is displayed as well in most clients anyway. I just like to see lowercase email

Re: Backing up address book

2002-12-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Granville, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:52:24 +GMT (4-12-02, 4:52 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup, then choose Address GC I have done this but the file saves as a TBX format.

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Johannes, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:35:41 +0100 your time, you said: JP Plus, every message that *YOU* generate and send will be different from JP a real bounce, both generated at receive time by a negative recipient JP verify, or by your

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Simon, On 17:48 04.12.2002, you [Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote... Fair enough. So basically you are saying that even though 'the bounce' may work on occasion with Mailwasher it is no more than a gimmick as it would be obvious to anyone that it was not a genuine bounced message

Re: Replace reply-to address

2002-12-04 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Johannes, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:37:22 +0100 your time, you said: JP Why would you add it to your address book with a capital first letter? JP :) I didn't Johannes :) The address book email address entry has a lower case first letter, but

Blocking HTML email

2002-12-04 Thread jon hall
What is the best way to create a filter to block incoming html email? I have tried looking for Content-Type: text/html in the headers and anywhere with not a lot of success. It seems this should work to me, but some messages that I know have that header seem impervious to my filter...

Re: Blocking HTML email

2002-12-04 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, December 04, 2002, jon hall wrote... What is the best way to create a filter to block incoming html email? I have tried looking for Content-Type: text/html in the headers and anywhere with not a lot of success. It seems this

Re: Setup an AV correctly for TB!

2002-12-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Eddie! On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 11:24:17 AM you wrote: So what could be done differently to change this? Unless there is a plug-in for TB or the AV scanner has an option to scan incoming mail - nothing. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62/Beta16 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack

Re: PGP/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Eddie! On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 2:19:23 PM you wrote: - is this normal? Yes, that's actually the point of MIME. - what is PGP/MIME? A standard used by some mailers (i.e. Eudora) to sign and encrypt a message (and its attachments), and then not showing it inline but as a

Re: MS Office integration

2002-12-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Geoff! On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 4:09:14 PM you wrote: On 04 December 2002, 14:46, Nick Dutton wrote: Is is possible to get TB! to integrate with MS Word etc? I'd like to use the Try installing Tb as Simple MAPI handler (it's somewhere in some Preferences of TB). -- Dierk

Re: Blocking HTML email

2002-12-04 Thread jon hall
Thank you, I've ended up filtering for multipart/alternative where the email address isn't in my address book. I'll see how it goes... -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 12:30:54 PM, you wrote: JA -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JA Hash: SHA1 JA On Wednesday,

Re: Filtering on cc: field

2002-12-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ming-Li, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:47:04 +0800 GMT (04/12/02, 11:47 +0700 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ^CC Presence: No Location: Kludges [...] 1. A in TO but there are CC recipients. 2. A in CC. Your filter will be falsely triggered by messages matching condition 1. Yes, you are right. But

Re: SOT: the other TB! Lists are dead!

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eddie, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 12:54:22 PM, you wrote: EC Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', EC I'm writing into this ML just to hear the opinion of the others. I'm EC not getting news in the other TB! nor in other ML such as PGP KPF. There have been a few messages on tbot this

Re[2]: Alternative Forwarding and .msg files

2002-12-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 6:52:23 PM, you wrote: TF Yes, but since when does OL care about standards? ;-))) When there's $$$ involved? -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current

Re: PGP/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Eddie! On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 7:47:17 PM you wrote: Thanks Dierk. Do you know if it in the pipe for v2? Not sure. It is high on the wish list, though. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62/Beta16 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.

Re: SOT: the other TB! Lists are dead!

2002-12-04 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Eddie! On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 7:54:22 PM you wrote: I'm writing into this ML just to hear the opinion of the others. I'm not getting news in the other TB! nor in other ML such as PGP KPF. They all on Y!groups. Di you also experience on your site this silence? The lists

Re: Bounce Mail

2002-12-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mean, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:44:44 +0530 GMT (04/12/02, 22:14 +0700 GMT), Mean Drake wrote: Definitely yes! RFCs not only recommend, but require postmaster@ being a active and read address per domain. What about [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFC 2142 is the one you want to check out. -- Cheers,

Re[2]: SOT: the other TB! Lists are dead!

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eddie, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 1:25:36 PM, you wrote: snip There have been a few messages on tbot this morning. EC This morning yes. But since this late afternoon ... EC As example in TB!ot the last posting that cam through was 9:10 pm EC mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EC Can you confirm

Re[2]: Filtering on cc: field

2002-12-04 Thread Joseph N.
Ming-Li and Thomas, Thank you both for your various comments. I'm not sure yet which if either of you understood or misunderstood my request, because I haven't had a second to sit down and get into your responses in any depth. I'll probably do it tonight, and post back tomorrow. -- JN

Re[2]: SOT: the other TB! Lists are dead!

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eddie, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 3:11:13 PM, you wrote: big snip Well, at least tbudl is up and running. Have you joined PGP-Basics? EC Decades ago ;) I can't understand a word they are saying. But I am saving it all to a folder, just as I did tbudl and tbot when I first got The

Re[2]: SOT: the other TB! Lists are dead!

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eddie, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 3:31:51 PM, you wrote: MB ... I've onlY installed PGP this week and am very new to it. EC Just be patient. When I started I felt the same. But there you can ask EC as much as you like. Even my stupid questions get answered. So you EC don't have to

Re[2]: Backing up address book

2002-12-04 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 4:49:36 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Granville, RO On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:52:24 +GMT (4-12-02, 4:52 +0100GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: Any easy way to back up the address book without exporting to a file? MR - From the Tools menu, select Backup,

Upgrade

2002-12-04 Thread syv
Hi tbudl, I am student registered and I am trying to upgrade to personal. I already send 2 emails in the last week, no reply. I checked the website and cannot find where to email, so I used the feedback. Who to email for how much and how to upgrade the license. -- Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Backing up address book

2002-12-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Granville, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:52:41 +GMT (5-12-02, 0:52 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: GC I just want a secure copy of my address book that I could even GC print out. I couldn't understand why I can't open the saved copy GC and check out the displayed addresses. You can print

Re: Upgrade

2002-12-04 Thread Subhi S Hashwa
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:58:52PM -0800, syv wrote: I am student registered and I am trying to upgrade to personal. I already send 2 emails in the last week, no reply. You can order the upgrade from their website, http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/register.html and click on online

How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello tbudl listers, How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? I do not want to use it with my PGP Keys. I know how to turn it off in the Privacy menu of the Mail Editor. But that has to be done with each separate message. I would like to turn it off such that I am automatically not

Re:How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Sean
Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 7:52:54 PM, Mary wrote: MB How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? Go to the Privacy options in the message editor, then set defaults..., and change the option from there. -- Sean Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A

Re: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Mary, On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:52:54 -0600 your time, you said: MB How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? * Open Account Properties * Select 'Options' in the left-hand pane * uncheck the 'enable S/MIME' in the bottom right-hand

Re: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Wolffe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 Mary Bull stated: MB Hello tbudl listers, MB How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? I do not want to MB use it with my PGP Keys. I know how to turn it off in the Privacy menu MB of the Mail Editor. But

Re: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, @4-Dec-2002, 19:52 -0600 (01:52 UK time) Mary Bull [MB] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MB How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? See Account | Properties | Options | Message editor settings. That's where

Re[2]: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Simon, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 8:02:58 PM, you wrote: SB * Open Account Properties SB * Select 'Options' in the left-hand pane SB * uncheck the 'enable S/MIME' in the bottom right-hand corner right below SB 'enable OpenPGP' Did it. Thanks a bunch. -- Best regards, Mary

Re[2]: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Wolffe, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 8:02:31 PM, you wrote: Account-Properties-Options uncheck the options you dont want. Did it. Much help tonight, so many thanks. -- Best regards. Mary Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL

Re[2]: How to disable S/MIME

2002-12-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Marck, Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 8:03:05 PM, you wrote: MB How can S/MIME be permanently disabled in The Bat!? MDP See Account | Properties | Options | Message editor settings. Just went there. MDP That's where the default setting resides. You can turn it off there. Thanks. I did.

Re[2]: Backing up address book

2002-12-04 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello Roelof, Thursday, December 5, 2002, 12:28:45 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Granville, RO On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:52:41 +GMT (5-12-02, 0:52 +0100GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: GC I just want a secure copy of my address book that I could even GC print out. I couldn't understand why I can't

Luncheon Meat Essay

2002-12-04 Thread William Moore
Hello TBUDL An interesting (but long) essay from the SANS institute can be found here: http://rr.sans.org/email/spam_battle.php -- Regards William www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2

Re: The Bat! Backup

2002-12-04 Thread Granville Cousins
Hello Marck, I am trying to backup the Bat! I do this by going into tools and using the Backup Wizard. When I have done this and go to the folder which I have created to contain my Backup job, I open the job and it is displayed in an Edit Mail Message window in a column on the left hand

Re: The Bat! Backup

2002-12-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Granville, @5-Dec-2002, 07:21 Granville Cousins [GC] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip GC I never get the chance to open my Backup job to view its GC contents. Surely this cannot be right. What do I need to do in GC