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'Lo Peter,
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:07:00 +0100 your time, you said:
PP> ... this "faking bounces" ain't "fighting spam" even in the slightest
PP> way. It has nothing in common with any successful "spam fighting
PP> technology", the effect of bounces and faked bounces on amount of spam
PP> is near to zero, not measurable.
Yes and no. I have bounced spam and it hasn't graced my mailbox again. On
the other hand, some spam persists even after bouncing, so it doesn't get
bounced again, just deleted. I don't know where you are deriving your
statistics from, but I'd be interested in reading them.
I have found that sometimes bouncing works and sometimes it doesn't, and if
it doesn't then you don't bounce again, you delete. Mailwasher allows me to
do that. Bouncing doesn't happen automatically, it is a user option, and can
be selected and deselected, and used independently in individual filters.
PP> If you want flexibility in fighting spam make use of RBLs and systems
PP> like SpamAssassin (like!!! there might be others that work in a similar
PP> fashion. I don't want to break it down on SA being "the one"!).
That's what Mailwasher does. I use ORDB, VISI, SpamCop, and filter according
to the results.
PP> THAT is flexible, not "annoying innocent postmasters" (especially the
PP> one from your own ISP!) by filling their inbox with those ineffective
PP> doublebounces ('double' because in 99% your "bounce" will bounce itself
PP> and the so called double bounce will end up in postmasters mailbox).
I very much suspect that your fears are totall unfounded, and that if you
really wanted to worry about something try non Mailwasher bounced messages.
I don't think for a minute that the contribution that Mailwasher is making
to the millions of bounced messages floating about everyday is going to be
at all significant, and if a postmaster is going to whine about the
occassional bounced message they've he or she has spend far too much time
tracing back to a local Mailwasher user then well, what can I say accept,
try finding another hobby! ;-)
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Sl�n,
Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk
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