Re: Foreign Characters
Hello Mark, On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:02:35 -0800 GMT (11/01/03, 12:02 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: Here in the U.S. foreign characters are required to register with the INS as part of the new Homeland Security stuff. ROTFL! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two issue for convert from Eudora
Hello Richard, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:05:31 -0500 GMT (11/01/03, 12:05 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: 2. I have my network administration set to manual connection. However, I had the accounts set to check mail every five minutes, and it then proceeded to do so whether the connection was open or not. Am I overlooking something or is this just a problem on my machine. The first questions has been answered already. for the second questions, you might be overlooking: Options / Network Admin / (.) Dial-up / [X] No automatic dial for periodic checking. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to configure BAT with Yahoo
Hello Gerard, On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:52:27 +0100 GMT (09/01/03, 16:52 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: TF Their MRB's blocking Y!G's makes no sense at al I always used my yahoo account sparingly and not at all anymore since they started charging for a POP account. It is amazing to see that the amount of spam only keeps growing and growing. I am not talking about email accounts @yahoo.com. I am talking about yahoogroups, and the list (group) postings are sent from another domain, namely @yahoogroups.com. There seems to be a little misunderstanding hede. I am sure that Yahoo sells email address maybe not the paid ones but only the free accounts. It even makes sense if you think about it. It does. But this would effect only emails coming into your own account @yahoo.com. I do not have such an account. I am talking about MRB blocking mails coming from the domain @yahoogroups.com. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Mail - Newsgroup Gateways
Hello Darren, I have web2pop, Aha! That was it. Have you changed MailTraq's POP port as suggested by Roelof? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Lost Default User in Network Priviledges (Follow Up)
Hello everyone, There is a definite repeatable problem with my copy of TB1.61 I have tried it on two different machines with the same result on both. I have prepared a detailed bug report and sent it on, details follow for those interested: The bug description: Loss of Default User in Network Privileges Steps to reproduce the bug: I have four accounts set up. All accounts have 'Administrator' Privileges. The four accounts are named as follows: Barry Mutex Kentra Default Compuserve If I change the Mutex account to 'User' privileges then restart TB the account 'Barry' is no longer shown and the setting for the three accounts that are accessible is set to 'Administrator'. If I then scroll through the setting of each of the accounts in order, i.e. Mutex, Kentra Default, Compuserve and back to Mutex then the Mutex account is shown as 'User'. I set it back to 'Administrator', then restart TB I am back to four accounts all with 'Administrator' privileges. End of bug report -- Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
special characters
Hello Bat Folk. Does anyone besides me think that it might be useful to be able to insert ascii special characters like [cents or copyright, etc] into a msg from a chart? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62 Christmas Edition/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote:'
JR Does anyone besides me think that it might be useful to be able to
JR insert ascii special characters like [cents or copyright, etc] into
JR a msg from a chart?
I agree with this. It can be tedious to open the character map, copy the
character and then paste it.
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Re: special characters
Hello Allie, I agree with this. It can be tedious to open the character map, copy the character and then paste it. What about using QTs? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
memory violation
TBUDL - once in a while, the bat client crashed with error message, 'memory violation...' anyone has similar incident? the version is 1.62. David Tucker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Offscreen connection center
Hello tbudl, My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen someplace. When I check my mail, the connection center icon appears on my task bar, but is nowhere to be found on screen. When I right-click on the task bar icon and select Move or Resize, my mouse jumps to the upper left hand corner of the screen. My mail appears to be downloading normally, but I miss being able to see what's going on in the connection center. Any suggestions? -- Best regards, Ken mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ken Heronheart [KH] wrote:'
KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen someplace.
KH When I check my mail, the connection center icon appears on my task
KH bar, but is nowhere to be found on screen. When I right-click on the
KH task bar icon and select Move or Resize, my mouse jumps to the
KH upper left hand corner of the screen. My mail appears to be
KH downloading normally, but I miss being able to see what's going on
KH in the connection center. Any suggestions?
Go to Options Preferences and under the 'General' tab, select
'Display control center' - Always.
Right click the CC on the taskbar and select 'move'. The mouse
pointer should change to crossed arrows (the move pointer).
Go straight to the arrow keys and use them to move the CC window
back unto the desktop. I'd try moving down and to the right since
the mouse moved to the left upper part of the screen.
Hit enter when finished.
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Re: special characters
Hello Carsten, * Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would prefer you do not include e-mail address in your reply template. ,- [ As Roelof writes in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | This list has a public webbased archive at | http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ The addresses in | the headers are deleted, but addresses in the message bodies are kept, | thus making it easy for harvest bots to harvest your e-mail address | for spamming purposes. You might consider removing it from your list | template. `- Thanks, -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU What about a SmartBat tab with the most used characters?
A viable option that would be easier than what one would normally have
to do.
I could also create a PowerPro toolbar where each button inserts one of
the more commonly used characters.
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Re: special characters
Hello Carsten CT Yes, that's it! (I use the QT (c) for the Copyright symbol) What's wrong with using alt+0169 to produce ©. Much easier! -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62 Last Christmas's Edition Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carsten Thönges [CT] wrote:'
I agree with this. It can be tedious to open the character map, copy
the character and then paste it.
CT Hm, I disagree... should this really be part of a mail program?
Hmm. That's like asking if an editor should really be part of an e-mail
program. :)
If the answer is yes (which is my personal opinion because of the
advantages an integrated editor), then isn't inserting special
characters part of editing mail?
I'm looking at Miguel's suggested work arounds.
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Re: special characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carsten, @11-Jan-2003, 16:29 +0100 (15:29 UK time) Carsten Thönges said: What about using QTs? Yes, that's it! (I use the QT (c) for the Copyright symbol) Is that method ©opyrighted? Whatever, it's a goodie! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+IFPpOeQkq5KdzaARAmg5AKDwzm6Q5VPYbrsI6BN0pROSmCm+IACfZByq mz8+bBuEjU+vqilHllh+JsM= =i0Cc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
Hello Allie, I guess that's reasonable provided that you don't have a lot of QT's already. What about a SmartBat tab with the most used characters? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Foreign Characters
Hi Stephen TBUDL, On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:21:35 -0600, Paul Stephen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to figure out on my own how to insert characters with accents à, è, é etc. I use recommend a shareware program called LatinKey. There was some discussion on this topic on TBUDL a while back. If you search the TBUDL archives for latinkey you should find the thread I mean, including my description of how LatinKey works and other folks' suggestions of other ways to type accented characters in TB. LatinKey may be found at www.fanix.com/latinkey Hope this helps! Havivah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: memory violation
Hallo David, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:28:31 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 17:28 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DT memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such as DT button, icon, and etc. Since you're pointing to the gui, did you try a newer driver version for your graphics card? BTW Your signature includes your e-mail address. This list has a public webbased archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ The addresses in the headers are deleted, but addresses in the message bodies are kept, thus making it easy for harvest bots to harvest your e-mail address for spamming purposes. You might consider removing it from your list template. BTW2 You answered several questions at the top of the message, quoting the entire message under it. Therefore leaving to the recipient to decide what answer belonged to which question. This procedure is called top-posting or top-quoting and is frowned upon by many participants of this list, especially since it causes excessive quoting, which is against the list rules. A better way is to use the style called 'intermittent quoting', which looks more like a conversation. That looks like this: RO What OS do you use? Win98se RO What are you doing when TB crashes? Sometimes nothing RO What other programs are running when it happens? IE RO When was the last time you compressed all folders? Each time I close TB. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: memory violation
Hello David Tucker, On or about Saturday, January 11, 2003 at 08:28:31GMT -0800 (which was 11:28 AM in the tropics where I live) David Tucker replied: DT Roelof - DT win98 2nd ed sometimes it crash itself without doing DT anything or i tried to click one of bat client icon to DT compose or reply. cant remember what other prg are running, DT mostly IE browser. compressed everytime i close bat client. DT memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such DT as button, icon, and etc. WIN98 can and often does exhibit these problems after repeated running of IE due to a 'memory leak' in IE. This causes '98 to run out of memory. I use Netscape, so this rarely happens. Only time it does is when I run another app that uses the IE browser engine as it's basis. The machine I have upgraded to WIN2K does NOT exhibit this failure. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike -- Flying in the stratosphere with The Bat! V1.61 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU What about using QTs?
I guess that's reasonable provided that you don't have a lot of QT's
already. The ease of using QT's for such a reason would rest on invoking
them easily, either through remembering the handle or selecting it from
your QT list, otherwise one may as well continue inserting special
characters the usual way. My QT list is currently very long and
cluttered. Likely because I'm already using QT's for everything. :)
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Re: special characters
* Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Allie, I agree with this. It can be tedious to open the character map, copy the character and then paste it. Hm, I disagree... should this really be part of a mail program? What about using QTs? Yes, that's it! (I use the QT (c) for the Copyright symbol) -- Best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: memory violation
Roelof - win98 2nd ed sometimes it crash itself without doing anything or i tried to click one of bat client icon to compose or reply. cant remember what other prg are running, mostly IE browser. compressed everytime i close bat client. memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such as button, icon, and etc. David Tucker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, January 11, 2003, 8:24:46 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo David, RO On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 06:26:41 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 15:26 +0100GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: DT once in a while, the bat client crashed with error message, DT 'memory violation...' anyone has similar incident? the version is DT 1.62. RO What OS do you use? RO What are you doing when TB crashes? RO What other programs are running when it happens? RO When was the last time you compressed all folders? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: memory violation
Hallo David, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 06:26:41 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 15:26 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: DT once in a while, the bat client crashed with error message, DT 'memory violation...' anyone has similar incident? the version is DT 1.62. What OS do you use? What are you doing when TB crashes? What other programs are running when it happens? When was the last time you compressed all folders? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Query
I have created several groups under my Personal Address Book. Now when I create a message and pull up the Address Book I am always positioned at the last group I created, rather than at the entire address book. What do I modify so that when I press the address book icon on the To: line I go directly to my full address book rather than that last group I created? It's a pain having to reset this every time I reload TB. Paul Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
Hallo Ken, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:41:54 -0600GMT (11-1-03, 16:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen KH someplace. Close TB! Start Regedit Set the keys: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Top HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Left both to zero. Close Regedit Start TB Check your mail The CC will appear at the upper left corner and you can drag it to the place you'd like to. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
On Saturday, January 11, 2003, 10:22:35 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Ken, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:41:54 -0600GMT (11-1-03, 16:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen KH someplace. Close TB! Start Regedit Set the keys: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Top HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Left both to zero. Close Regedit Start TB Check your mail The CC will appear at the upper left corner and you can drag it to the place you'd like to. Thanks! That did the trick. -- Best Regards, Kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: memory violation
sábado, 11 de enero de 2003 2:23:30 pm Hello David, Saturday, January 11, 2003, 12:28:31 PM, you wrote: DT once in a while, the bat client crashed with error message, DT 'memory violation...' anyone has similar incident? the version is DT 1.62. I Do. I happens when looking at html files and later the connection centre generated a crash. In the later case it was an email contianing a virus which happens did not have date on it. No idea on the html case, but in the connection centre clearly it was the way the virus arrive without any date. To solve the problem I went on to the server and eliminated the problematic emails. Regards Running Bat 1.62e on windows 2000 PRO Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:'
MAU I haven't played with PowerPro toolbars yet. Can you create
MAU specific toolbars for specific programs (i.e TB)?
Oh yes. :)
Not only for a specific program but for a specific window or windows of
a particular program.
I've already created one that appears only when the main TB! or a View
Folder window comes into focus. When it appears, it's anchored to the
lower edge of the Window in focus. This tool-bar contains buttons that
will execute manual filter shortcuts. These filters do things like
adding a sender address to a particular address book, exporting a message
and opening it in my favourite editor, importing the message when
finished and a couple other things.
I'm thinking of creating a toolbar that will appear only when the TB!
message window is in focus. It will contain buttons to carry out things
that I can never remember the keyboard combo for, like indenting text,
and now, adding special characters.
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What can be the reason?
Hi, I want to send an email to a site from Polish Telekom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) but without success! I get: Server informs about a fault. The answer is: Incorrect authentification data. But I have Perform SMTP authentification (RFC 2554)! -- Best regards, Roland I use The Bat! v1.63 Beta/2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ! Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
Hello Allie, I could also create a PowerPro toolbar where each button inserts one of the more commonly used characters. I haven't played with PowerPro toolbars yet. Can you create specific toolbars for specific programs (i.e TB)? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two issue for convert from Eudora
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, January 11, 2003, Victor B. Gonzalez wrote... JA In the compose window, hit View, and put a tick in the From JA option. You now have a drop down list for the From box, JA containing all your accounts. The above is good when you wish to start composing a brand new message. Once set, the From field stays open, even on replies and such. If you would like your from address to automatically change to the value the message was sent to, try putting the below macro right at the top of your reply template. %FROM=%FROMNAME %OTOADDRHello %OFromFName, What happens if you are in the CC field? Wouldn't that macro then break? Or technically not break, but put in the wrong values? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPiBzKCuD6BT4/R9zEQJKmwCePX6A0i02vNg0M4JtRkPIjEC1Ng4AoL9w 7ZceX/65sefy84peuYXGNEOR =I81A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The path to the internet
Does anyone know of a utility that will tell you the path to the internet that your data takes? Like: IE5 -- antivirus -- parental filter -- software firewall -- nic card nic card -- software firewall -- email antivirus -- spam filter -- the bat connection center I am curious who looks at an email 1st, the anti virus package or spam filter (both being from different vendors)or even what programs take a peak at data before it goes outside the computer. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:02:14 -0500 GMT (1/11/2003, 8:02 AM -0500 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Does anyone besides me think that it might JR be useful to be able to insert ascii JR special characters like [cents or JR copyright, etc] into a msg from a chart? You might get what you need by using the spell check. I made a word substitution (spc = ¢®²©¼¾½) and the delete out anything not needed. The is also a search/replace feature Shift+F7 with drop downs that could help. Windows 2000 also has a character map in: Programs Accessories System Tools character map - -- Safety Fast, Jim Mattern -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBPiByfNFPCCrNlWyxEQLGvgCg90y1dFMts+xglW5RL6oLB8rjdOQAnAsy V79gX+j88BqwbtLedBfW9nQD =BRTC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two issue for convert from Eudora
Hallo Jonathan, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:40:19 -0600GMT (11-1-03, 20:40 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: %FROM=%FROMNAME %OTOADDRHello %OFromFName, JA What happens if you are in the CC field? Wouldn't that macro JA then break? Or technically not break, but put in the wrong JA values? Yep. It would place the original first recipient in the From-header. Also when you're in the To-header, but not as first addressee, the macro won't produce the wanted results. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What can be the reason?
Hallo Roland, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:59:28 +0100GMT (11-1-03, 19:59 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: RB Server informs about a fault. The answer is: Incorrect RB authentification data. RB But I have Perform SMTP authentification (RFC 2554)! Your intended recipient is not what's important here. What counts is the settings your provider requires. It's your ISP's server that comes with this message, so you'll need a different method of authentification. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mailtraq revisited
Good evening list, I added this newsserver news.bradsoft.com to Mailtraq. Configured it like all my other newsgroups, subscribed to: topstyle.support.css and topstyle.support.general On mail gateway, enabled News Same situation on News gateway, In short: configured everything the same as my other subscriptions. Created new folders in TB! but: the messages are downloaded in Mailtraq but not in TB! Any suggestions? (the newsserver doesn't need a login password). -- Best regards, Luc Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/2 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. All things truly wicked start from innocence. - Ernest Hemingway - from The Garden of Eden Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' Parenting
Mike, As far as AVG goes, let's just say I worked for a gov't dept ... The only ones to come through with a clean bill of health (i.e. for the large majority of the tests they had a 100% record) were Symantec and Sophos. Are they free for personal use, or offer a Bat plugin? No program is 100%. You cite Symantec, but: http://www.gfi.com/mailsecurity/wpmultiplevirusengines.htm While Norton [Symantec] AntiVirus achieves a good rate at detecting both ITW and zoo viruses, it fails to detect viruses compressed with packages such as UPX, Shrink, and ASPack. In the tests, it achieves an average detection rate of 75% of backdoors and Trojan files. http://www.computercops.biz/ Concerns Mount over Symantec In Part I of this investigative report series, NewsFactor goes beyond the headlines to find out what industry insiders really think of Symantec, and why so many are concerned about its future. ... Specifically, analysts question whether Symantec can sustain growth in a consumer antivirus market that has already matured. Here's a cheap anti-trojan with a big database - NetArmor. http://www.spytechsecurity.com/net-hack-protection.html Kerio firewall is free for personal use and can block trojans from using the Internet behind your back. http://www.kerio.com Mark Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: memory violation
To all - Thanks for the tips. I will check out the problems. Thanks for pointing out the spam issue in regard to email signature. I never thought of harvesting. David Tucker Saturday, January 11, 2003, 9:16:20 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo David, RO On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:28:31 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 17:28 +0100GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: DT memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such as DT button, icon, and etc. RO Since you're pointing to the gui, did you try a newer driver version RO for your graphics card? RO BTW Your signature includes your e-mail address. This list has a RO public webbased archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ RO The addresses in the headers are deleted, but addresses in the message RO bodies are kept, thus making it easy for harvest bots to harvest your RO e-mail address for spamming purposes. You might consider removing it RO from your list template. RO BTW2 You answered several questions at the top of the message, quoting RO the entire message under it. Therefore leaving to the recipient to RO decide what answer belonged to which question. This procedure is RO called top-posting or top-quoting and is frowned upon by many RO participants of this list, especially since it causes excessive RO quoting, which is against the list rules. A better way is to use the RO style called 'intermittent quoting', which looks more like a RO conversation. That looks like this: RO What OS do you use? RO Win98se RO What are you doing when TB crashes? RO Sometimes nothing RO What other programs are running when it happens? RO IE RO When was the last time you compressed all folders? RO Each time I close TB. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two issue for convert from Eudora
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roelof, %FROM=%FROMNAME %OTOADDRHello %OFromFName, JA What happens if you are in the CC field? Wouldn't that macro JA then break? Or technically not break, but put in the wrong JA values? RO Yep. It would place the original first recipient in the From-header. RO Also when you're in the To-header, but not as first addressee, the RO macro won't produce the wanted results. I am not that sharp with macros and personally I do not accept mail that is not explicitly addressed to me. Mail which does not have me and me alone in the to: field gets put into a suspect folder. I am aware of replying to messages within that folder. The above macro at least works for me 99% of the time :) The macro is better than none because otherwise without one it would be tedious to change the from address all the time ;) I am though of course open to a macro which is better at figuring out, bcc and cc if possible :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request my PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPiCUFF3LB35+TCg0EQJA1gCgsMsr0MgZ0NqC4HTeaFVdCr5UiTMAoIvs Uw9XcM3bmSN2AQQ7MH8Uug4P =pTpA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Free anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus
Clive, http://spybot.eon.net.au/ What is your basis for saying that this piece of software is very good? The over 4,000 database entries and almost daily updates. The free price, lovely interface, online updates, and extra features (file shredding, track erasing). Plus, recommendations from SpywareInfo.com. Lavasoft ad-aware has questionable integrity and has not been updated. There was an article recommending heavily against Lavasoft and in favor of Spybot SD at SpywareInfo.com. http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/december-2002/12252002.php Hidden ad programs are far more prevalent than viruses -- because there's actual money at stake -- so people are smart to use both types of anti-infection programs. They cover different territory. Regards. Mark Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Free choice of browser?
Hey Mark, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Business' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Saturday, January 11, 2003 at 5:45:33 PM. MP Since I'm a Newbie to The Bat! (also evaluating other Email MP programs) and this program has so many features to discover, I MP have some questions which might seem rather ridiculous to the more MP advanced users. Please bear with me... Not a problem, this list isn't for the advanced :-) we have TBTECH for that. MP I will stick to one question/message and this is the first one (1): MP Found in the help file: MP When I receive HTML mail, the pictures don't show. double-click on the HTML attachment to view it in your favourite web browser. MP When I do that, the HTML attachment is being viewed in IE, MP although this is not my standard-browser. TB uses the browser Windows is set up to use. MP I mainly use Crazy Browser (which uses the IE-engine) (and Opera) MP and when I click URL's Where are you when you click em? MP , it's always Crazy Browser that's being launched. Except in The MP Bat!. I don't find any setting within The Bat where this can be MP adjusted. Any Idea? There are no settings in TB that I know of to control that. MP Best Whishes, MP Mark MP [EMAIL PROTECTED] MP using the Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition MP MP Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: MP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Just a couple of quick notes about your sig... ,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark] | This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of | two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line. | | NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine | | This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a | cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of | your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is | removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that | includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark | from the text you quote. `- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess] Also, the trend has been to not include your eMail address in the message, that way when the message shows up in the archive web site, spammers can't harvest your address... HTH -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why are you wasting time reading taglines? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Free choice of browser?
Hallo Mark, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:45:33 +0100GMT (11-1-03, 23:45 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: The work-around if you really want to see these images is to double-click on the HTML attachment to view it in your favourite web browser. MP When I do that, the HTML attachment is being viewed in IE, MP although this is not my standard-browser. I mainly use Crazy MP Browser TB gives the html file to the OS and the OS decides with what program you're opening it. You need to associate html-files with Crazy Browser. Bear in mind that I'm using a Dutch Windows, so I'm not totally sure about the English names. Start the Explorer (not IE) In the menu: View - Folder options (the lowest option) A pop-up screen comes up Select the 'file types' tab Search for 'HTML document' Select it Edit Choose the 'Open' action Edit Select Crazy Browser as application to open html documents Now press 'OK' so often that all pop-ups are closed. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Free choice of browser?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mark, MP Found in the help file: MP When I receive HTML mail, the pictures don't show. The Bat! does not download images that are not sent with the message. It is widely considered that this is a good thing. The downloading of images should be the job of a browser and it can become a security problem when that functionality is given to an off-line email reader. The work-around if you really want to see these images is to double-click on the HTML attachment to view it in your favourite web browser. MP When I do that, the HTML attachment is being viewed in IE, although this is MP not my standard-browser. It might not be your standard but is it your default? I use a browser similar to yours (MyIE) and it has an option to make it your default browser. Upon selecting the option The Bat! automatically opens all of my HTML attachments in MyIE. MP I mainly use Crazy Browser (which uses the MP IE-engine) (and Opera) and when I click URL's, it's always Crazy Browser that's being launched. MP Except in The Bat!. I don't find any setting within The Bat where this can be adjusted. MP Any Idea? Good luck, I had a problem like that with Mozillas Newsgroup reader but that's another story :) (BTW, I fixed it :)) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request my PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPiC+7l3LB35+TCg0EQJjCQCfSd6znVhwcUasuMNc4kZ3nNjQHsQAmQEl +m3bW19OsVlAekvzfySw5jLw =g1CW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mailtraq revisited
Hallo Luc, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:50:19 +0100GMT (11-1-03, 22:50 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: L the messages are downloaded in Mailtraq but not in TB! Any L suggestions? (the newsserver doesn't need a login password). Did you subscribe your own account for the news-to-mail gateway? Close Mailtraq Open the file c:\program files\mailtraq\database\configuration\system.cfg Search for the name of your new group. That can be found in a section that starts with [NNTPGroups.number] and ends with MaxDownload=number Copy that whole section and post it in your reply and tell us what's the name of your internal pop account in mailtraq. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: special characters
Hello Allie, Saturday, January 11, 2003, 1:22:30 PM, you wrote: AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], AM Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote:' JR Does anyone besides me think that it might be useful to be able to JR insert ascii special characters like [cents or copyright, etc] into JR a msg from a chart? AM I agree with this. It can be tedious to open the character map, copy the AM character and then paste it. So, open up character map, note down all the alt+number combinations you need into a text file and print it out and sit it by your computer. It's not rocket science ;-) -- Best regards, Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA So, open up character map, note down all the alt+number combinations
MA you need into a text file and print it out and sit it by your
MA computer. It's not rocket science ;-)
... and why do you bother to use a computer to do things that you can do
manually without it being rocket science
It's *easier*.
I use a macro tool to make life easier. Cuts out the manual labour.
Your proposition is rather ridiculous and inelegant, to say the least.
The feature is neither here nor there for me since I have the know how
and the tools to create a workaround far better than paper beside me.
However, my comments were in solidarity with Jan's appeal. I find it an
understandable one. I don't expect all TB! users to be able to implement
my personal solution but the fact that I feel the need to do so speaks
for itself.
I guess I'm not in a good mood this evening. sigh
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Re: mailtraq revisited
Good night Roelof, It was foretold that on 12-1-2003 @ 02:10:43 GMT+0100 (which was 2:10:43 where I live) Roelof Otten would mumble: snipped a bit RO Copy that whole section and post it in your reply and tell us what's RO the name of your internal pop account in mailtraq. Here's the info: [NNTPGroups.13] Name=topstyle.support.css NewsHost=news.bradsoft.com OverrideDefaults=1 LastCollection=2003-01-12-02:14:43 CutoffAge=30 CutoffSize=1000 StorageTime=2 SubscriptionActive=1 LastNumber=1 CreationDate=2003-01-11-03:09:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED]\[EMAIL PROTECTED] Properties=6 Priority=2 LastExpiry=2003-01-11-20:08:56 ServerNumber=4900 MaxDownload=2000 [NNTPGroups.14] Name=topstyle.support.general NewsHost=news.bradsoft.com OverrideDefaults=1 LastCollection=2003-01-12-02:14:43 CutoffAge=30 CutoffSize=0 StorageTime=2 SubscriptionActive=1 LastNumber=1 CreationDate=2003-01-11-03:10:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED]\[EMAIL PROTECTED] Properties=6 Priority=2 LastExpiry=2003-01-11-20:08:56 ServerNumber=5512 MaxDownload=2000 But what do you mean by 'internal pop account' in mailtraq ? -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/2 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. And so, my fellow net surfers, ask not what your homepage can do for you; ask what you can do for your homepage. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
Hello Allie, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:56:37 -0500 GMT (12/01/03, 08:56 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: MA So, open up character map, note down all the alt+number combinations MA you need into a text file and print it out and sit it by your MA computer. It's not rocket science ;-) ... and why do you bother to use a computer to do things that you can do manually without it being rocket science The elegant thing is to use a mixture of computer and non-computer aids. I really love computers as a tool to simplify life. But they are not all there is, and in fact, I had a sheet with the alt-codes for the German umlauts printed out and sitting by the screen for several years (now I just don't use umlauts any more). I find it a lot easier to simply glance onto that sheet and hit the alt-num combinations than using additional software, writing macros and whatnot. You know about my background in computing and know that I could have used or written a software solution; it is not lack of knowledge but it is preference and choice that led me to using the low-tech approach. ;-) It's *easier*. I use a macro tool to make life easier. Cuts out the manual labour. I dare say people work in different ways. I guess I'm not in a good mood this evening. sigh ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA No? I'd never have guessed! You did notice the ;-) after the rocket
MA science I take it?
I noted it, yes, but my response still came out.. sheepish smile
MA Anyway, although I was meaning it in a light-hearted way, I do find
MA people have this over-reliance on technology when a simple solution
MA is available.
Well, if you have the computer in front of you, already using it, then
*use* it. :)
MA For example. I use Photoshop all the time and have the Quick Guide,
MA printed out, beside me all the time with all the keyboard shortcuts
MA in. However, I've now learned, through repeated use, all of the ones
MA I constantly use.
Sure. But what about the ones you don't always use?
For those, I generally take to the menus or use tool-bar buttons, if
available.
MA And I'm sure that if my suggestion was taken up, the same outcome
MA would result.
For special characters? No. I don't use them often enough that I'd
commit those shortcuts to memory. I have many other things to remember
so I can manage committing to memory, only those shortcuts that I use
very often.
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Re: special characters
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'
TF The elegant thing is to use a mixture of computer and non-computer
TF aids. I really love computers as a tool to simplify life. But they
TF are not all there is,
Indeed. I don't use one at work at all. :)
TF and in fact, I had a sheet with the alt-codes for the German umlauts
TF printed out and sitting by the screen for several years (now I just
TF don't use umlauts any more). I find it a lot easier to simply glance
TF onto that sheet and hit the alt-num combinations than using
TF additional software, writing macros and whatnot.
Different strokes. :)
TF You know about my background in computing and know that I could have
TF used or written a software solution; it is not lack of knowledge but
TF it is preference and choice that led me to using the low-tech
TF approach. ;-)
I know what you mean. It takes time and effort to put the software or
macros together. One then wonders if the effort is worth preventing the
minimal hassle each day, especially since getting accustomed to it makes
things that much painless.
This is why I personally haven't done anything about it other than
making the character map shortcut more accessible than at
Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Character Map. ;)
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Re: Two issue for convert from Eudora
Hello Richard, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:13:28 -0500 GMT (12/01/03, 11:13 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: TF Options / Network Admin / (.) Dial-up / [X] No automatic dial for TF periodic checking. I did set it as you suggested, but I would like it to check every five minutes or so for new mail while I am on-line. And these are exactly my requirements too, and it works the way you describe. Automatic periodic checking when online, no check when off-line. I had it set for check every five minutes, but that prompts it to check while off-line as well. Not here. But there is another possibility: Under Account / Properties / Network make sure that none of the accounts has [ ] Use Account-specific Network Settings checked. Because that overrides your general settings and would indeed connect automatically each time. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel! - Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special characters
Hello Allie, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:47:31 -0500 GMT (12/01/03, 10:47 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: TF The elegant thing is to use a mixture of computer and non-computer TF aids. I really love computers as a tool to simplify life. But they TF are not all there is, Indeed. I don't use one at work at all. :) I don't believe you! ;-) You are surrounded by computers in an OP theater, are you not? Are are you measuring the patient's heartbeat by holding his wrist and counting his pulse for 15 seconds? ;-) TF and in fact, I had a sheet with the alt-codes Different strokes. :) Yep. :-) I know what you mean. It takes time and effort to put the software or macros together. One then wonders if the effort is worth preventing the minimal hassle each day, especially since getting accustomed to it makes things that much painless. Right. I know a lot of people who think that everything should be done by computer, but in my POV this creates a dependency and even creates inefficiency in some cases. This is why I personally haven't done anything about it other than making the character map shortcut more accessible than at Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Character Map. ;) That's what I mean. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reiner Calmund: Unter den Einaeugigen ist der Dreibeinige der Koenig. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two issue for convert from Eudora
Hello Thomas, Saturday, January 11, 2003, 1:13:42 PM, you wrote: TF On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:05:31 -0500 GMT (11/01/03, 12:05 +0700 GMT), TF Richard H. Stoddard wrote: 2. I have my network administration set to manual connection. However, I had the accounts set to check mail every five minutes, and it then proceeded to do so whether the connection was open or not. Am I overlooking something or is this just a problem on my machine. TF Options / Network Admin / (.) Dial-up / [X] No automatic dial for TF periodic checking. I did set it as you suggested, but I would like it to check every five minutes or so for new mail while I am on-line. I had it set for check every five minutes, but that prompts it to check while off-line as well. Thanks to others for the help with the first issue. Rick Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
