Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range

2002-02-07 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 4:53:05 AM, Kitty wrote:

 (I am using Windows 2000 in case it matters).  Any thoughts?

If you weren't using Windows 2000 I would have said your system is running
low on GDI resources. Yet, AFAIK Windows 2000 doesn't have GDI limits. I
ran into the same problem and some other software was the culprit
(Sensiva) and the Bat the victim. I think under W2k you can use the Task
Manager to monitor GDI resources, try to see if they are at a limit.

Sorry, some W2k user might give you better instructions.

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Re: way to delete all messages from subfolders?

2002-02-07 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Wednesday, February 06, 2002, 3:48:13 PM, you wrote:

Rick One thing I would like to be able to do is to be able to select
Rick multiple folders and empty them or to be able to click on a folder and
Rick be able to delete all the messages in the folders below it.

Or, may I add, be able to mark them as (un)read /(un)flag / (un)Parked
/ color code / etc.
Basically be able to do all the things you can do on 1 msg or folder on
multiple folders.

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Re[2]: executing an external program before mail collection

2002-02-07 Thread Paul Gleave

Oh ... sorry to everyone for messing up the thread! I could offer a
good excuse but basically I screwed up.  Sackcloth and ashes for me
today.

On Wednesday, 06 February 2002, you wrote:

 Hello Paul Gleave,

 On Wednesday, February 06 2002 at 07:15 AM PDT, you wrote:

 I've reached a point in my anti-spam regime where simple filters are
 no longer sufficient.

 Paul, this is slightly off-topic but can you tell me if, when creating
 your message, you used a Reply and then changed the Subject... or did
 you start a new message with the Subject as listed?


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Re: Out of Memory/Grid index out of range

2002-02-07 Thread Alain de Gevigney

Hello Kitty,

 On  Wed, 6 Feb 2002 at 21:53:05 [GMT -0600] (which was 04:53 where I live) you wrote:

K Originally posted to the beta list since I thought this might be a
K beta issue.

K I am getting a lot of out of memory messages.

K (I am using Windows 2000 in case it matters).  Any thoughts?

How many memory is there on your computer,
 how many free ?
Do you purge and compress your folders ?
 Messages.tbb file size ?
Do you check your index files (.Tbi) ?
 A sign of a corrupt index can be an error when trying to backup,
 in this case try to delete it and restart The Bat!.


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%Attachfile Macro not working

2002-02-07 Thread Raj

Fellow TB users,

Just  wanted  to  check  if any one has used the %attachfile macro successfully.
I used the macro (thru a QT) and instead of the attachment I get the path in the
message ??

Any ideas ?

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Re[2]: %Attachfile Macro not working

2002-02-07 Thread Raj

Dierk,

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, at 12:54:34 [GMT +0100] (which was 5:24 PM where I live) you
wrote:

DH No idea why it doesn't work for you.

I  have  a reply template at the account level. One in 10 mails I need to send a
particular attachment. So I created a QT with the macro in it. Now after hitting
reply  I   call  the  QT.  This does not attach the file. However when I use the
macro in the reply (account level) template it works just fine.

Puzzling !:(

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Re: %Attachfile Macro not working

2002-02-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Raj!

On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 12:29:26 PM you wrote:

 Just  wanted  to  check  if any one has used the %attachfile macro successfully.

Yes. Once it was at the bottom of a QT, which worked. Now it is at the
top of the QT - because that's the only way to get another macro to
work correctly - and everything is quite fine.

No idea why it doesn't work for you.




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Re: %Attachfile Macro not working

2002-02-07 Thread Raj

Raj,

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, at 16:59:26 [GMT +0530] (which was 4:59 PM where I live) you
wrote:

R Any ideas ?

It  seems to work when used at the account level template but not so when called
thru a QT.

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Backing up TB!

2002-02-07 Thread Marcus Ohlström

Hello,

I'm backing up important files on my computer every night, among those
TB!'s mail catalog. Earlier I was only interested in saving my mails,
but now, after I read about backing up TB! here in TBUDL, I would like
to save all my settings as well.

My question is, what files are necessary to back up. I do not consider
thebat.exe as necessary since I could easy get that one back, but of course
mail\*.* should be backed. I know the register contains info under
HKCU\Software\RIT so I'm saving that as well. But what else?

In short, where do TB! store information that I could not recreate by
doing a reinstallation?

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filter by date?

2002-02-07 Thread Peter Kerekes

Hello 

I  would  like to set up a filter which would move the older
mail from certain folders (but not Inbox or Outbox)to the TRASH folder.

1./ Is it possible to set up a filter which would check the current
date and move everything older than say 10 days?

2./  I  assume the above will not move the parked files. How
about the FLAGGED files? Is there a way to leave them also
back in the original folder?

Thank you for your reply in advance

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Re: filter by date?

2002-02-07 Thread Shahar

Peter,
Every folder have It's own setup for keeping messages.
Go to the folder properties and on the bottom you'll see a box with
Keep messages in the base for (days). Setup the days and that's it.
AFAIR - If you set it to delete the messages after 10 days, It'll
actually will move 11 days old messages but I'm not sure about it.


Thank you for writing


On Thursday, February 07, 2002, at 20:54:08, Peter wrote about:
filter by date?


 1./ Is it possible to set up a filter which would check the current
 date and move everything older than say 10 days?


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Re: filter by date?

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 07 February 2002 at 13:54:08 -0500 (which was 18:54 where I live)
Peter Kerekes wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I  would  like to set up a filter which would move the older
 mail from certain folders (but not Inbox or Outbox)to the TRASH folder.

 1./ Is it possible to set up a filter which would check the current
 date and move everything older than say 10 days?

 2./  I  assume the above will not move the parked files. How
 about the FLAGGED files? Is there a way to leave them also
 back in the original folder?

There's no need to do any of this. Simply set the Folder properties to
Keep messages for 10 days. Parked messages are kept. Older messages
are deleted.

Okay, that doesn't move them to trash.

Filters are only executed at point of delivery/transmission. Any other
filters would have to be executed manually.

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Re: filter by date?

2002-02-07 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 13:54:08 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

PK I  would  like to set up a filter which would move the older mail
PK from certain folders (but not Inbox or Outbox)to the TRASH folder.

That's not possible with an automatic filter, you'd have to refilter
manually every time you wanted TB! to move old messages.

But there's a solution for that problem:

Have a look at the properties of the folders for which you want this
feature. Check Keep messages in base for (days) and adjust the
setting. Then check On exit - Remove old messages. You might also
want to compress that folder on exit or you can do this manually.

PK 2./  I  assume the above will not move the parked files. How about
PK the FLAGGED files? Is there a way to leave them also back in the
PK original folder?

This way, flagged messages will be deleted, parked ones will not. That's
the reason behind the parking flag.

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Re:glyphs.bmp (was Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?)

2002-02-07 Thread Patrick Hagemann

Hi,

 you used the ISO-8859-15 encoding for your message. If you do so, you
 shouldn't (can't) use a ´ in your message because it is not included in the
 ISO-8859-15 charset. The Bat shows a Ž instead of a ´ if it knows of
 8859-15 (like The Bat 1.54 with fixed 8859-15 encoding). Using '
 should work better, I think. ;-)

 configuration isnŽt complete yet, so it may take a few more days for
   ^
 IŽm sure you wonŽt have to. :)
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Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Gerard de Vries

Hi Bat Users,

 I some time receive an email with an attachment that has the
 extension ATT. By looking at it with an editor I can see that this is
 an MS Outlook file of some sort.

 Is there a way to read this with TB! or an external prg.
 
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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Gerard,

On 07 February 2002 at 20:37:43 +0100 (which was 19:37 where I live)
Gerard de Vries wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Is there a way to read this with TB! or an external prg.

The problem is caused by the use of a Micro$oft proprietary attachment
format for Outlook and Exchange users. There is a freeware decoder
called Fentun which you can get from www.fentun.com.

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Re: ISO settings (was: glyphs.bmp)

2002-02-07 Thread Peter Meyns

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Hi Patrick,

on Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:30:36 +0100GMT (which was 07.02.02, 20:30 +0100GMT
where I live), you wrote this about glyphs.bmp (was Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?):

PH  you used the ISO-8859-15 encoding for your message.

did I? I didn't change anything, but I'm using a beta version of TB!.
Maybe it sets this as default. My normal setting is ISO-8859-1. I'll
check on this later.

 configuration isnŽt complete yet, so it may take a few more days for

Yes, I can see what you mean. Thank you very much for pointing this
out! :-))

I had a fresh reinstall, so it may take some more time to get my
system running to my likes. ;-)

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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Marck D Pearlstone,

On Thursday, February 07 2002 at 12:18 PM PDT, you wrote:

 The problem is caused by the use of a Micro$oft proprietary attachment

Anyone else seeing multiple copies of this message? I must have received
10 of them so far. 


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having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

I'm a registered user of The Bat!, but being that e-mail programs
interest me, I figured I'd check out PocoMail also. I just installed
it but one thing came to mind immediately that I'd like to ask the Bat
group. Is there a way you can set up multiple accounts to only go to
one inbox and related folders? For the most part I like the way The
Bat is set up with each account being it's separate entity, but it
would also be nice if I could just provide one folder structure for
several of my pop accounts to pour into. For example I have about 3 or
4 pop accounts that are not that active. It would be great if I could
have one inbox shared for these accounts but when I reply to one of
the messages it knows which account it was sent to. This is how
PocoMail and Pegasus act by default. I like The Bat's default set up
but would like this option as well. I know I could filter all of the
mail coming into those accounts into the inbox of another folder, but
that seems more like a 'work-around' then really a solution.

The other thing I've been meaning to ask. One thing that I really find
annoying is when I to to start typing addresses in the To field and I
start using auto complete with ctrl+. It's all fine until I get to the
far right of the To field. It really doesn't scroll over far enough
and I can't really cycle through the address with ctrl+ or - to see
what I'm choosing. Is this just something I have to deal with? I guess
it isn't that big of a deal since I could always then turn to using
the address book, but I figured I'd ask since it comes up a lot for
me.

Thanks for any input. If anyone has any comments about PocoMail and/or
Becky (either positive or negative) feel free to email me off list.
I'm really interested in Bat user's thoughts on these programs.

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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Shahar

Nick,
So far only one message here.


Thank you for writing


On Thursday, February 07, 2002, at 22:39:05, Nick wrote about:
Microsoft attachment


 Anyone else seeing multiple copies of this message? I must have received
 10 of them so far.


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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Shahar,

On Thursday, February 07 2002 at 12:42 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Nick,
 So far only one message here.

Thanks. One of the Servers along the way must have burped then. ;o)


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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Nick,

On 07 February 2002 at 12:39:05 -0800 (which was 20:39 where I live)
Nick Andriash wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The problem is caused by the use of a Micro$oft proprietary attachment

 Anyone else seeing multiple copies of this message? I must have received
 10 of them so far.

Just one here - check the Received headers and see where the time
stamps varies between the copies. That will pinpoint where the
messages are bouncing around.

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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Alastair Scott

On 07 February 2002 at 20:41 Rick wrote:

 I'm a registered user of The Bat!, but being that e-mail programs
 interest me, I figured I'd check out PocoMail also. I just installed
 it but one thing came to mind immediately that I'd like to ask the Bat
 group. Is there a way you can set up multiple accounts to only go to
 one inbox and related folders? For the most part I like the way The
 Bat is set up with each account being it's separate entity, but it
 would also be nice if I could just provide one folder structure for
 several of my pop accounts to pour into. For example I have about 3 or
 4 pop accounts that are not that active. It would be great if I could
 have one inbox shared for these accounts but when I reply to one of
 the messages it knows which account it was sent to. This is how
 PocoMail and Pegasus act by default. I like The Bat's default set up
 but would like this option as well. I know I could filter all of the
 mail coming into those accounts into the inbox of another folder, but
 that seems more like a 'work-around' then really a solution.

'Common filters' is a feature currently missing from TB! which I put
on the request list.

Unfortunately, up until the 1.54 betas TB!'s architecture is very much
one account - one set of folders - one set of filters. Common
folders*, I think, are the first step away from this. One can filter to
a common folder, but the filter has to be reproduced within each
account which is to be filtered.

That said, the feature which allows a received message to be sent from
any account (by clicking on the received account name in the status
bar and selecting the new account from the popup) solves the other
half of the problem.

Alastair

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Re: Account default column settings

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dave,

On 07 February 2002 at 15:47:56 -0500 (which was 20:47 where I live)
Dave Goodman wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How does one set up the message-list account default column
 settings?

 I see that one can change the size of each field by dragging its
 border, and that one can right-click on the headings and get a column
 setting dialog.  But neither of these setups seems to 'take'
 permanently.

The settings apply to only the current folder, unless that folder has
the property Use account default column settings, in which case, the
settings apply to all folders with that option ticked.

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Re[2]: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann


On Thursday, February 07, 2002, 3:54:04 PM, Alastair wrote:

AS Unfortunately, up until the 1.54 betas TB!'s architecture is very much
one account - one set of folders - one set of filters. Common
AS folders*, I think, are the first step away from this. One can filter to
AS a common folder, but the filter has to be reproduced within each
AS account which is to be filtered.

By saying up until the 1.54 betas are you saying that in the
1.54 beta you can have multiple accounts empty into one 'inbox'
(mailbox) ?

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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Eric Malaussna

Hi Rick,

On jeudi 7 février 2002 at 21:41:37, you wrote :

RR I'm a registered user of The Bat!, but being that e-mail programs
RR interest me, I figured I'd check out PocoMail also.

I tried it too... but I returned to The Bat!

RR Is there a way you can set up multiple accounts to only go to
RR one inbox and related folders?

It's available in 1.54 beta versions.

RR For the most part I like the way The Bat is set up with each account
RR being it's separate entity, but it would also be nice if I could just
RR provide one folder structure for several of my pop accounts to pour
RR into. For example I have about 3 or 4 pop accounts that are not that
RR active. It would be great if I could have one inbox shared for these
RR accounts but when I reply to one of the messages it knows which account
RR it was sent to.

You can do that using the new Common Folder feature.
You create the Common folder for incoming mails.
In the properties of this folder, in Response template you add :
%FROM=
%FROM=%OTOADDR

Then, when you will reply from this folder, the FROM filed will be filled
with the address used to send the original message.

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Re[2]: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

On Thursday, February 07, 2002, 4:33:10 PM, Eric wrote:


RR Is there a way you can set up multiple accounts to only go to
RR one inbox and related folders?

EM It's available in 1.54 beta versions.

Cool, can I get a hold of this beta somewhere? I'd love to try
this feature.



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Re: filter by date?

2002-02-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Marck!

On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 8:02:05 PM you wrote:

 2./  I  assume the above will not move the parked files. How
 about the FLAGGED files? Is there a way to leave them also
 back in the original folder?

 There's no need to do any of this. Simply set the Folder properties to
 Keep messages for 10 days. Parked messages are kept. Older messages
 are deleted.

 Okay, that doesn't move them to trash.

No, luckily it kills them instantly. Why should anyone use a trash
bin (another directory, concerning the Windows Recycle bin) to
*hold* messages? they should be deleted.

Oh, to answer the other question (2.): Flagged messages have to be
parked to not being deleted. So a (manual) filter has to be created
with the action to park a flagged message.


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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Nick Andriash,

On Thursday, February 07 2002 at 01:22 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I thought that was possible using the Common Inbox?

Whoops! That is a Beta feature and this is TBUDL. ;o)

My bad. :o(

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Re: Account default column settings

2002-02-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Dave Goodman,

On Thursday, February 07 2002 at 12:47 PM PDT, you wrote:

 I see that one can change the size of each field by dragging its
 border, and that one can right-click on the headings and get a column
 setting dialog.  But neither of these setups seems to 'take'
 permanently.

Sometimes it requires you to re-set items you have already configured,
but eventually you will get the column settings to stick. For instance,
once you set the column widths the way you want, and then go to
View/Sort by... for instance, you will lose all the column settings and
have to start over again, and that might happen for all 3 of the View
settings. Just keep plugging away and they will eventually take hold.

As Marck has already mentioned, only the Folders that have the Use
account default column settings box checked will retain those settings,
and so will every Folder you create in the future with that feature
checked.


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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Rick!

On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 10:13:03 PM you wrote:

 By saying up until the 1.54 betas are you saying that in the
 1.54 beta you can have multiple accounts empty into one 'inbox'
 (mailbox) ?

Not they way you wanted it, which, BTW, can be achieved with earlier
versions already.

To sort that out a bit:

In the current beta series there is a new feature called Common
Folders, which are Folders not within any account but common to all.
You can now receive your messages with your accounts and filter them
from there directly into the Common Folders (Inbox, for example).

This you can already do without Common Folders, just create a dummy
account to which you filter your messages. I do something a little
different, I have three active accounts, one of them my main account,
one only used for special purposes and one for general purposes
including TB! ML's.

Except for some odd stranger and all of TB! related mail I
automatically sort my messages into the folder structure of the main
account. This way it doesn't really matter to which of my many e-mail
addresses a message is addressed.

The downside comes with your idea of a message remembering which
account it comes from (and which reply settings should be used). But
don't despair, even this can be handled by templates - AB or (sorry
Marck) folder based ones. Or better still QT's.

A QT with the macro %ACCOUNT='name of account' and a good handle will
permit you to use the account's settings you want. This relies on your
ability to recognize which message comes from which account.

This is just to give you a hint.



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Re: Microsoft attachment

2002-02-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Gerard!

On Thursday, February 7, 2002 at 8:37:43 PM you wrote:

  Is there a way to read this with TB! or an external prg.
 
I never had the inclination to do this, but ... try to open it with a
normal text editor like TextPad, it opens everything. If it is
not readable you can try a HEX editor.



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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Alastair Scott

On 07 February 2002 at 21:13 Rick wrote:

 AS Unfortunately, up until the 1.54 betas TB!'s architecture is very much
 one account - one set of folders - one set of filters. Common
 AS folders*, I think, are the first step away from this. One can filter to
 AS a common folder, but the filter has to be reproduced within each
 AS account which is to be filtered.

 By saying up until the 1.54 betas are you saying that in the
 1.54 beta you can have multiple accounts empty into one 'inbox'
 (mailbox) ?

Yes, into any common folder (which can be called anything you like :)

Alastair


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Re[2]: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Dierk,

 A QT with the macro %ACCOUNT='name of account' and a good handle will
 permit you to use the account's settings you want.

Or just select Options/Active Account on editor window, right?

 This relies on your ability to recognize which message comes from
 which account.

He can do that with Colour Groups. If he defines a different Group for
each account and all the filters in each account include an Action to
assign the message to the corresponding group.

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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Rick Reumann,

On Thursday, February 07 2002 at 12:41 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Is there a way you can set up multiple accounts to only go to one
 inbox and related folders?

I thought that was possible using the Common Inbox?


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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Nick,

Thursday, February 7, 2002, 11:05:30 PM, you wrote to TBUDL:

 I thought that was possible using the Common Inbox?

NA Whoops! That is a Beta feature and this is TBUDL. ;o)

NA My bad. :o(

But is it not possible to filter messages from one account to another,
so that you can use one of the accounts as recipient for all the
others by setting up individual filters for each of the other
accounts? In 1.53d as well?

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Re: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 3:22:07 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:

 I thought that was possible using the Common Inbox?

you could have catch all filters at the end to direct everything to a
common folder.

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Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Andreas Schwartmann

Hello, Bat fans,

I have never worked with colour groups, but now I would like the Bat to
show all the mails I have already read in the colour of green and all
the mails I have already replied to in the blue colour. How can I
accomplish that?

Can some kind soul please tell me what steps I need to take?

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Re: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Andreas,

On 08 February 2002 at 01:37:11 +0100 (which was 00:37 where I live)
Andreas Schwartmann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have never worked with colour groups, but now I would like the Bat to
 show all the mails I have already read in the colour of green and all
 the mails I have already replied to in the blue colour. How can I
 accomplish that?

 Can some kind soul please tell me what steps I need to take?

1) Define the colour groups you want under Options | Message list
   colours. Name them, for instance, Replied and Read and set the
   background colour as required.

2) Set up a Read messages filter which looks for @ as the sender
   and sets the colour group to Read in Action.

3) Set up a Replied messages filter which looks for @ as the
   sender and sets the colour group to Replied in Action.

That should do it.

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Re[2]: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Andreas Schwartmann

Hi, Bat folks,

on  Fri, 8 Feb 2002 at 01:02:36 GMT + (which was Friday, February
8, 2002, 02:02 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote the following
lines regarding Colour groups? Please help!:

MDP 1) Define the colour groups you want under Options | Message list
MDPcolours. Name them, for instance, Replied and Read and set the
MDPbackground colour as required.

MDP 2) Set up a Read messages filter which looks for @ as the sender
MDPand sets the colour group to Read in Action.

MDP 3) Set up a Replied messages filter which looks for @ as the
MDPsender and sets the colour group to Replied in Action.

MDP That should do it.

Thanks, that did the job!


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Re[3]: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Andreas Schwartmann

Hi, Bat folks,

on  Fri, 8 Feb 2002 at 02:18:16 GMT +0100 (which was Friday, February
8, 2002, 02:18 where I live) Andreas Schwartmann wrote the following
lines regarding Colour groups? Please help!:

AS Hi, Bat folks,


MDP That should do it.

AS Thanks, that did the job!


... but I guess I have to repeat this for every single folder, right?
There is no way to make this replied messages filter applicable to all
my folders?


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Re: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Andreas,

On 08 February 2002 at 02:21:34 +0100 (which was 01:21 where I live)
Andreas Schwartmann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP That should do it.

AS Thanks, that did the job!

 ... but I guess I have to repeat this for every single folder,
 right? There is no way to make this replied messages filter
 applicable to all my folders?

No, there isn't, unless you change all of your filters to Read
filters and only ever reply from the Inbox... g

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Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

Is there anyway I can run multiple instances of The Bat! I currently
have my wife and my brother living with me and they share my computer
and are thus et up with sub
user accounts under my master account so when they log on
they only see their mail accounts. The problem is it's
annoying that I have to see all their account information along with
my accounts. On top of this, both like their accounts to be
checked for e-mail when they run the Bat and they like it to check for
mail every few minutes or so. This means, as far as I can tell, that all
their boxes have to get checked while I as the master user am using
The Bat!. Their should be a way around this problem. Setting up
another instance of The Bat in another directory I think would be
perfect but not sure if this will work with the registry, etc.

Any suggestions?
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focus on inbox?

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

Is there a way to have The Bat! focus on the inbox when it is first
opened up. Not a big deal for me, but my wife is used to having her
inbox visible right away with all the messages in there. I know it's
not a big deal to go over and click the inbox, but just thought I'd
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Re: focus on inbox?

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Rick,

On 08 February 2002 at 20:38:46 -0500 (which was 01:38 where I live)
Rick Reumann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is there a way to have The Bat! focus on the inbox when it is first
 opened up.

Yes. Check the FOCUS command line parameter in the help file.

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Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Rick,

On 08 February 2002 at 20:37:23 -0500 (which was 01:37 where I live)
Rick Reumann wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ... The problem is it's annoying that I have to see all their
 account information along with my accounts. ... Their should be a
 way around this problem.

You might try experimenting with Groups under Network and
Administration.

 Setting up another instance of The Bat in another directory I think
 would be perfect but not sure if this will work with the registry,
 etc.

Could end up very messy.

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Re[2]: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread John Hesch

Hi Marck, 

on Thursday, February 07, 2002 you wrote, at least in part:

 1) Define the colour groups you want under Options |
 Message list colours. Name them, for instance, Replied
 and Read and set the background colour as required.

 2) Set up a Read messages filter which looks for @ as
 the sender and sets the colour group to Read in
 Action.

 3) Set up a Replied messages filter which looks for @
 as the sender and sets the colour group to Replied in
 Action.

I followed these steps and all of my read messages are red
in color but the replied-to messages did not change to blue.

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Re[3]: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Friday, 8 February 2002 at 3:07 p.m. Rick wrote: 

RR I might have to give PocoMail some more serious consideration if I
RR can't really come up with a graceful solution to this problem.
RR Probably most of you don't share your computer with your family,
RR but since I do this has become a bit of an annoying issue. I have
RR 6 accounts that I check and my wife has 3 and my brother has 2.
RR It's annoying that there mail has to constantly be checked while
RR I'm using the Bat.
 

I am afraid that I don't understand why it is a problem to you! I am
the main user of TB! in our house but the rest of the family use it
from time to time. They have their own accounts and those of us who
choose to have our accounts password protected.

My three accounts cannot be accessed by anyone and the fact that their
accounts appear in the account tree doesn't bother me at all!

I don't use the ticker so the fact that other accounts are checking
for mail also doesn't bother me. I fail to see how it can be annoying.
If it the *sounds* for their mail calls that are bothering you -
either disable them or turn your speakers down! :-)

By the way, if it is the connection centre popping up at mail checks
that annoys you, you can hide that too.

I might be thick but I really can't see the problem!

PS. I have used PocoMail too ... but TB! is far superior. In my
opinion you would lose far more than you would gain by switching.
JMHO.


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Re[2]: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 9:24:49 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:


MDP That's not a problem to do. One account to manage the others and the
MDP others to do the work. Not extraordinary by any means. In fact, it's
MDP the prescribed scenario for using Windows NT/2k/XP.

MDP You should just be another user/group. That the administrator is you
MDP is just a coincidence. You shouldn't *use* the system logged in as
MDP *administrator*. Your login should be to a group which includes your
MDP accounts. Your wife's login should be to a group with her account(s)
MDP in. Etc.

 Actually you are right, that's a great idea. I'm going to set it
 up right now. Also, thanks for the suggestion on the FOCUS for
 the command line. I'm setting up  a batch file for each
 user that uses the Bat and I have a macro program that will fire
 off the appropriate batch file by a hot key combo.
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Re[4]: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 9:20:01 PM, Carren Stuart wrote:

CS I am afraid that I don't understand why it is a problem to you!

ehh..I'm just overly anal and don't like seeing all those accounts
that I'm not using over on the left menu tree:) I'll just do what
Marc said and make a separate user group for me which will put
these issues to rest.

Thanks for the suggestion on PocoMail. I really love TheBat and
don't want to leave it anyway:)

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Re: Colour groups? Please help!

2002-02-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi John,

On 08 February 2002 at 19:15:14 -0700 (which was 02:15 where I live)
John Hesch wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I followed these steps and all of my read messages are red
 in color but the replied-to messages did not change to blue.

 Any suggestions?

Not from me. I don't need to use the system like that so can't relly
offer any further help - anyone else?

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slight problem when setting up groups (Mark?)

2002-02-07 Thread Rick Reumann

Mark gave me a good suggestion on setting up a group for myself with
my accounts in it. The only problem I'm running into is how to get the
main account associated with my admin privileges to also be in my
group. I don't care so much about all the messages in the folder, but
I have lots of filter rules and different folder structures that I'd
like to not have to redo. Is there a way to move this main 'admin'
privileges account into another group.???

Thanks so much.

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eclipse would start, and they'd probably try to kill you or something,
but then you could explain about the rotation of the moon and all, and
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Thai language?

2002-02-07 Thread Jos Flachs

Dear Bat users,

A few weeks ago I saw a question on the list asking if the Bat can
handle Thai language. I moved to another company and never saw the
answer. I'd like to have the new company switch to the bat, but we'll
do that only if we can read/write in Thai.

Is it possible to set the editor to work in Thai? The editor
preferences doesn't show my *upc.ttf (thai) fonts.

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Re[2]: having one folder structure, pocomail, etc

2002-02-07 Thread Eric Malaussna

Hi Ottar,

On jeudi 7 février 2002 at 23:14:21, you wrote :

 I thought that was possible using the Common Inbox?

NA Whoops! That is a Beta feature and this is TBUDL. ;o)

OG But is it not possible to filter messages from one account to another,
OG so that you can use one of the accounts as recipient for all the
OG others by setting up individual filters for each of the other
OG accounts? In 1.53d as well?

Of course, but that wasn't the point.
Commom folders (not within Accounts) are 1.54 Beta feature.

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Re: Multiple instances or at least a suggestion?

2002-02-07 Thread Jonathan Wayne

Same general topic but different question/comment. I've seen messages that
essentially say there is no way to reset an unknown account password without
deleting and recreating the various account settings after deleting account.cfg.
But one would think that an administrator is all powerful and could reset
passwords on other accounts, or prevent them from being set or changed, no? If
TB has pretensions of being a multi-user mail system, it should give some
thought to such requirements.

(Sorry for my frequent TB Help file gripe - my MAIN beef with TB - but the
network and admin help is worthless. I don't want a networking course; I want
context sensitive information on how groups works, for example. It certainly
isn't intuitive. I would hope that the TB creators at least monitor some of
these very common problems and sources of confusion and address them with Help
rewrite. End of soapbox.)

jon

On Thursday, February 7, 2002, 9:24:49 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:


MDP That's not a problem to do. One account to manage the others and the
MDP others to do the work. Not extraordinary by any means. In fact, it's
MDP the prescribed scenario for using Windows NT/2k/XP.

MDP You should just be another user/group. That the administrator is you
MDP is just a coincidence. You shouldn't *use* the system logged in as
MDP *administrator*. Your login should be to a group which includes your
MDP accounts. Your wife's login should be to a group with her account(s)
MDP in. Etc.

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