Re: Customizable From field

[Thomas F.]

Hello Ivan,

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 03:02:11 UT GMT (18/08/02, 10:02 +0700 GMT),
Ivan Vecanski wrote:

IV> When composing an email it seems that only the addresses of existing
IV> accounts appear in the History drop down box for the From and Reply-To
IV> fields. It won't remember other addresses I enter. So my question is:
IV> Is there a way to force The Bat to 'remember' the addresses in the From
IV> and Reply-To drop down history boxes in the Edit Mail Message screen.

The From field behaves differently from the recipient fields, I have
just found out. It looks like there is no history which the drop-down
list can get the past addresses from, so the only way would be to
store these by yourself (in a txt file or smartbat) and then c&p
(unless you want to type them out every time). Another work-around
(but not so good IMHO) would be to create dummy accounts for each
possible From address.

The best idea I can come up with is to hand in a suggestion to make
the From field behave like any other header address field.

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Re: HTML

[Thomas F.]

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:45:43 -0500 GMT (18/08/02, 06:45 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

>> I haven't gone nto IMAP yet, but I did think we were talking about
>> POP. The reason is that on a dial-up account, IMAP (if I understand it
>> correctly) might require more online time.

JA> It'd only require more online time if you wanted to redownload every message
JA> each time, however if you required just reading of some messages, then in
JA> general no... the one limitation with IMAP is that you have to be connected to
JA> read your mail, which is where I guess your comment about online time comes
JA> from.

Yes. Let's say I tunr on my computer in the morning, there are 100
messages in this account. It appears faster to download the mails,
read them offline and reply (if appropriate), and then reconnect to
send and receive again. IMAP would require me to stay online to read
all these messages.

JA> If the email is split into two parts, one of type text/plain and one of type
JA> text/html, then you'd be able to split it, but if it is formatted as only
JA> text/html, then that'd be all you can download.

While there is no conversation involved (as requested by Peter in his
original query), this sounds like a nice thing at least for the
multipart/alternative messages. :-) However, unless you can set this
behaviour to automatic, it wouldn't save you much online time, would
it?

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Customizable From field

[Ivan Vecanski]

Hi,

My email provider (fastmail) has a flexible option of having subdomains
on an account, so I need the following info:

When composing an email it seems that only the addresses of existing
accounts appear in the History drop down box for the From and Reply-To
fields. It won't remember other addresses I enter. So my question is:
Is there a way to force The Bat to 'remember' the addresses in the From
and Reply-To drop down history boxes in the Edit Mail Message screen.

Thanks,

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Re: Folder properties

[Pat Gilbert]

Marck D Pearlstone
Sunday, August 18, 2002, 7:48:53 AM, you wrote:


PG>> I was hoping that the Bat! allowed passwords on a folder basis but
PG>> I can only see an account password. Is there a way to do this?

> Yes. Create a locked account and filter the spam to the trash folder
> of that account (yes, you can do that!).

Good solution - Many thanks!

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Re: A special, separate, list for TBregex?

[Luc]

 Good morning Mandara,
  
It was foretold that on 18-8-2002 @ 03:18:57 GMT+0200 (which was
3:18:57 where I live) Mandara spread these wise comments:
  

M> Is there some interest in making a list which would deal only with
M>   regex used in TB?
  
 Tried the tech list?
 
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Re: Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, at 22:01:02 +0200 Peter wrote:

PP> ^From:\s*(.*?)\n

PP> You see the difference? The question mark is _inside_ the parentheses
PP> and it searches for the 'newline' explicitly.

Yep, I got it. I glued myself with $ as only metachar for the end of
the line. ;-)

PP> This should work quite fine and have everything after "'From:' followed
PP> by any number of white spaces but before 'new line'" in sub pattern 1.

Works like baby. Thanks!

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  several separated TB "sections".

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Re: Spell Checker - Change ALL function

[Luc]

 Good morning Dwight,
  
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3:50:22 where I live) Dwight A Corrin spread these wise comments:
  

DAC> shouldn't it be?
  
 Of course, i was just replying to Jonathans' remark that it might be
 case-sensitive. The case-sensivity makes sense to me :-)

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Re: Spell Checker - Change ALL function

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On Saturday, August 17, 2002, 8:00:55 PM, Luc wrote:

>  so it's case-sensitive.

shouldn't it be? you don't want to change both

> Now, taht is it
and
> Taht is it

the same way.
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Re: Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Mandara,

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 21:35 GMT +0200, a stampede was
started when Mandara hollered:

I know this should really go on TBTECH, but I suppose one or two of
these every couple of years on TBUDL isn't so bad.

> This one "^From: (.*)?$" extracts to much and doesn't stop at the
> end of line (includes entire header from the "from" line downward).

As Peter mentioned, you need to put the question mark inside the
brackets.  The reason is that the way you've written it, the
expression says:

 Look for zero or one occurrence of any number of any character
 after a a line starting with "From: ".

This means you have a redundancy in your repetition operators.  What
you wanted instead is:

 Look for the fewest number of anything on one line that starts
 with "From: ".

To do that you need to make the "any number operator (*)" ungreedy.
That is done by adding a question mark *immediately* after the repeat
operator.  So, ".*" matches the most number of any characters it can,
while ".*?" matches the fewest number of any characters that it can.

So a corrected version of your expression would be:
"^From: (.*?)$"

Of course, there are three stylistic things that I would change about
the above.  First, I usually add the ignore case option, just to be
more general. Second, I usually use \s* instead of a literal space to
find whitespace.  This makes sure that I trim *all* spaces if
there is more than one space and it removes other white space
characters like tabs.  Note, these suggestions make the expression
more general, so there can be some undesired behaviour.  In my
experience, the undesired cases for these two suggestions are so rare
that they are well worth the risk.

The third suggestion is to explicitly set the multi-line mode.  This
prevents problems if the default settings ever get changed for
any reason.  It also makes it very clear what behaviour you want from
TB.  After all, the help file suggests that you actually are in the
*opposite* mode by default, so your expression (and Peter's) would
fail if "From:" wasn't the very first header.  So the final corrected
version that I would use would be: 
"(?im-s)^From:\s*(.*?)$"

Note I also unset the "Dot All" option.  I'll let you read the help
file (or the tutorial) to find out why.

> Be patient with me, please, I am very beginner, and already infected
> with regexp (last night downloaded Gerd's tutorial and forgot to go
> to sleep).

I highly recommend that you subscribe to the TBTECH list.  That list
was specially designed for detailed technical discussions.  It has
become more or less specialized towards regexps.

While Gerd's tutorial is very well written, it won't really sink in
until you try analyzing some of the many expressions written on these
lists.  You should try it, post your results on TBTECH and you'll get
some good feedback.

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Re: Spell Checker - Change ALL function

[Luc]

 Good night Jonathan,
  
It was foretold that on 18-8-2002 @ 19:11:47 GMT-0500 (which was
2:11:47 where I live) Jonathan Angliss spread these wise comments:
  

JA> It may also be case-sensitive matching as well, in which case Dgo would not
JA> match dgo, and therefore the function would also fail.
Tried it with dgo dgo dgo and it worked. But indeed, if you type Dgo
dgo dgo it changes the first and then goes onto the next so it's
case-sensitive.

JA> I've  not  tried  using the spell checker in that method as I have
JA> the check on type set,
I'm sure you know this but you can still use the "check entire text"
option as well in that case.

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Re: Spell Checker - Change ALL function

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Januk,
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 16:51:33 -0700, you wrote:

> Are you sure they have been misspelt the same way?  Is it possible
> you've misunderstood the function?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding
> you.  Could you please post an example paragraph where the function
> failed to perform for you?

It may also be case-sensitive matching as well, in which case Dgo would not
match dgo, and therefore the function would also fail.  I've not tried using the
spell checker in that method as I have the check on type set, so I can see when
I type something wrong as I am going along... saves me having to run another
function before I do anything, as I can see straight away my mistakes.

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Re: Spell Checker - Change ALL function

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Guy,

It was Wednesday, August 14, 2002 at 8:47 AM, when Guy Prince [GP]
wrote:

GP> I find that when I am replying, forwarding or a new email and open
GP> up the spell checker, the CHANGE ALL function doesn't change all.

I can't confirm.  I just typed the line: dgo dgo dgo

I then ran the spell checker, selected dog from the suggestion box and
hit Change All.  All three were changed to dog.

GP> It changes that ONE misspelling and then goes onto the next
GP> misspelling.

Are you sure they have been misspelt the same way?  Is it possible
you've misunderstood the function?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding
you.  Could you please post an example paragraph where the function
failed to perform for you?

By the way, you may have noticed you got no replies in a timely
manner.  That is because you started a new subject by simply replying
to another message and changing the subject.  TB offers threading to
read related messages together in a logical order.  The best threading
method is by References (View -> View Threads by -> References) and
your method of posting does not destroy that information.  That means
your post was lost in a rather obscure thread that few probably read
(I didn't until today).

To avoid being accidentally ignored, please start new topics by
creating a new message, not by replying to another message.


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Re[7]: Disappearing Ticker

[Alexis Haeringer]

Bonjour Jeanny,

Samedi, le 17 août 2002 à 17h34 [GMT -0600] (ce qui correspond à
01h34 ici où j'habite), Jeanny House =[JH] a écrit à Alexis Haeringer :

JH> I might say, "Just to make it easier for you."
Thanks ! (also to Marck)  I'm fine better now!  ;)
JH> And you did!  Whatever you sent me worked beautifully, and I now have
JH> my ticker back.
   perfect
JH> Merci bien, mon ami!
   joli !


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Re: HTML

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Thomas,
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 04:21:54 +0700, you wrote:

> JA> Why would you have to go about converting protocols?  If I remember
> JA> correctly(you may want to look at the IMAP4rev1), the IMAP protocol
> JA> supports the retrival of partial bodies of messages.
> 
> I haven't gone nto IMAP yet, but I did think we were talking about
> POP. The reason is that on a dial-up account, IMAP (if I understand it
> correctly) might require more online time.

It'd only require more online time if you wanted to redownload every message
each time, however if you required just reading of some messages, then in
general no... the one limitation with IMAP is that you have to be connected to
read your mail, which is where I guess your comment about online time comes
from.

> JA> I know TB! IMAP support is lacking, but hopefully that'd be fixed
> JA> in v2.
> 
> I hear it will be.

I cannot wait then.  I use IMAP at home (I don't use Windows) all the time, and
I find it very efficient for example when reading the TBUDL folder.  The one
issue being that you probably cannot search properly, unless IMAP servers
support searching for you.

> JA> Here is a snippet from the IMAP4rev1 RFC 2060:
> [...]
> JA> I may have miss-understood that, but to me it reads that you can download
> JA> selected portitions of the mail if and when needed (which is the whole
> JA> idea behind IMAP).  IMAP can save a lot of bandwidth as it only retrieves
> JA> the headers for folder listings, and only downloads the mail when you want
> JA> to read it, and if it is spam, you simply delete before retrieving the
> JA> rest of the body ;)
> 
> That's how I read it too, but can it download only the plain-text part
> of an HTML message (if sent as alternative) or convert to plain text
> (if sent as html only)?

If the email is split into two parts, one of type text/plain and one of type
text/html, then you'd be able to split it, but if it is formatted as only
text/html, then that'd be all you can download.

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Re[6]: Disappearing Ticker

[Jeanny House]

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 4:43:11 PM, Alexis Haeringer wrote:


AH>> Just for be easy to you ?
AH>  Perhaps
AH>  just for to be easy to you?
AH>  ??
AH>  ^___^

AH>  Sorry for this amazing OT !

Alexis,

I might say, "Just to make it easier for you."

And you did!  Whatever you sent me worked beautifully, and I now have
my ticker back.

Merci bien, mon ami!

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Re: Mass mailing template

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Januk.

At 7:27 PM on Saturday, August 17, 2002 you [JA]
wrote the following about Mass mailing template:

JA> Remove the spaces for this to work.
JA>   Ie: %SUBJECT="text"

  So right you are. Thanks for pointing it out. It
  must be the drugs... :-\

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Re: Mass mailing template

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello jan,

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 11:16 GMT -0400, Jan Rifkinson [JR]
heard voices say:

JR>   Have you tried %SUBJECT = "text"
 ^ ^
  Remove the spaces for this to work.
  Ie: %SUBJECT="text"


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Re: Disappearing Ticker

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Hi Alexis,

@17-Aug-2002, 00:20 +0200 (23:20 UK time) Alexis Haeringer [AH] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Alexis:

AH>> Just for be easy for you :
AH> Perhaps it's better 
AH> Just for be easy to you ?
AH> no ?

"Just to make it easier for you..."

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Re[5]: Disappearing Ticker

[Alexis Haeringer]

AH> Just for be easy to you ?
 Perhaps
 just for to be easy to you?
 ??
 ^___^

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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Allie!

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 11:47:29 PM you wrote:

> Browsing the BrainStorm published FAQ's with Opera and a dial-up
> connection would be miserable. This is the lack of DOM support that
> Marck has been referring to.

Ah, that explains it, with 2 Mbit/s I don't have any probs with it.


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Re[4]: Disappearing Ticker

[Alexis Haeringer]

Bonjour Alexis,

Dimanche, le 18 août 2002 à 00h16 [GMT +0200] (ce qui correspond à
00h16 ici où j'habite), Alexis Haeringer =[AH] a écrit à Jeanny House :
AH> Just for be easy for you :
Perhaps it's better 
Just for be easy to you ?
no ?
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Re[3]: Disappearing Ticker

[Alexis Haeringer]

Bonjour Jeanny,

Samedi, le 17 août 2002 à 15h22 [GMT -0600] (ce qui correspond à
23h22 ici où j'habite), Jeanny House =[JH] a écrit à Marck D Pearlstone :
JH> Ok, so . . . let's pretend I don't know anything about computers,
JH> especially about Windows XP, which I just got on my new computer last
JH> week.

JH> Step by step, how do I do this?

Just for be easy for you :
Close TB!
Unzip  attached file and execute it.
Start TB!

,-= [ Content of file (without comment lines) ] =-
| REGEDIT4
| 
| [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Ticker]
'-=

By execute this file, you automaticaly delete this entry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Ticker.
This entry is "reseted" at TB! start up.

(this entry contain parameter of Mail Tiker.)


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Re: Printing Emails - Some HUGE, some microscopic

[Pat Gilbert]

Guy Prince
Saturday, August 17, 2002, 3:56:07 PM, you wrote:


>When I print my emails on any printer they come out with fonts so
>large it won't fit on a letter size paper.  Or so small they are
>nearly unreadable.

>If I reprint the email, it comes out fine.

Guy,
This has been reported before. I also get the same problem when
printing to an HP845 but not to my Tektronix laser.

I reported this on the Bat! bugtrac system but I'm not usre if they
have acknowledged it yet.

Sorry I can't provide any solution...


 
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LDAP AB properties

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Bat Folk.

  I'm new to the LDAP protocol or whatever you
  call it. When I try to search using the LDAPs
  listed in the AB, almost all show a can't
  connect or connect failed error. Question: how
  do I fix this, i.e. where do I find the correct
  addresses, ports, etc. TIA

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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Chris Montgomery]

Howdy Thomas,

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 4:23:37 PM, Thomas F. wrote:

TF> I get the tool tips also (Win98). Select a couple of messages and hold
TF> the mouse over it. Won't work if you select only one message.

Actually, it does work for me if only one message is selected. But I
just discovered something else...it does not display if Display All
Messages is selected under View.

Anyway, this is only a minor thing and I'm going to chalk it up as a
"feature" of TB and move on.

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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:'

DH> Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so
DH> swell! - and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed
DH> in Opera than developers tell us.

Yes. It's so swell that it masks the fact that the FAQ page ~100kb
is reloaded each time you try to navigate through it with the
buttons. This, of course shouldn't be, since the sub-pages are
already loaded and don't need to be reloaded each time.

Browsing the BrainStorm published FAQ's with Opera and a dial-up
connection would be miserable. This is the lack of DOM support that
Marck has been referring to.

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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Luc]

 Good evening Dierk,
  
It was foretold that on 17-8-2002 @ 22:45:19 GMT+0200 (which was
22:45:19 where I live) Dierk Haasis spread these wise comments:
  

DH> shows  me  that DOM is far more developed in Opera than developers
DH> tell us.
  
 Yep, i believe so. But then again, us users are smart enough ;-) (or
 we wouldn't be using Opera )
 
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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Thomas F.]

Hello Peter,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 17:22:51 +0200 GMT (17/08/02, 22:22 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> Oops, I have never seen that. I have the setup as above - there have never
PM> been any mouseover effects. Can it have to do with the OS (Win98SE here)?

I get the tool tips also (Win98). Select a couple of messages and hold
the mouse over it. Won't work if you select only one message.

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Re: HTML

[Thomas F.]

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:39:59 -0500 GMT (17/08/02, 22:39 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA> Why would you have to go about converting protocols?  If I remember correctly
JA> (you may want to look at the IMAP4rev1), the IMAP protocol supports the retrival
JA> of partial bodies of messages.

I haven't gone nto IMAP yet, but I did think we were talking about
POP. The reason is that on a dial-up account, IMAP (if I understand it
correctly) might require more online time.

JA> I know TB! IMAP support is lacking, but hopefully that'd be fixed
JA> in v2.

I hear it will be.

JA> Here is a snippet from the IMAP4rev1 RFC 2060:
[...]
JA> I may have miss-understood that, but to me it reads that you can download
JA> selected portitions of the mail if and when needed (which is the whole idea
JA> behind IMAP).  IMAP can save a lot of bandwidth as it only retrieves the headers
JA> for folder listings, and only downloads the mail when you want to read it, and
JA> if it is spam, you simply delete before retrieving the rest of the body ;)

That's how I read it too, but can it download only the plain-text part
of an HTML message (if sent as alternative) or convert to plain text
(if sent as html only)?

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Re[2]: Disappearing Ticker

[Jeanny House]

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 1:54:43 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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MDP> Hi Dierk,

MDP> @17-Aug-2002, 19:13 +0200 (18:13 UK time) Dierk Haasis [DH] in
MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jeanny:

>>> Any insight would be appreciated.

DH>> ... (HKCU, Software, RIT, Ticker). IIRC, you have to change the
DH>> values for Top and Left to zero - BUT DON'T DO ANYTHING without
DH>> further confirmation from other sources on this list. I think
DH>> especially of Thomas F., Marck, Allie and Peter Palmreuther, they
DH>> know the correct setting to change.

MDP> Confirmed!

Ok, so . . . let's pretend I don't know anything about computers,
especially about Windows XP, which I just got on my new computer last
week.

Step by step, how do I do this?

Jeanny

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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Avenarius]

A Bat-fellow, Marck D Pearlstone,
wrote on Saturday, 17th August 2002 at 21:06:06 (GMT +0100),
which was 22:06 in Bratislava --

> Mozilla is a far more stable and compliant browser [than Opera] in
> all respects from my POV (although even it is quirky and only IE has
> the all round compliance and stability). I had an Opera code guru
> try to help me sort out why it was giving me so much trouble and
> even they were unable to improve things for me. It's a shame,
> because the theory is good. I am surprised that anyone would accept
> the kind of poor performance I experienced from it every time I ran
> it up. All I hear by way of excuse is "at least it's not MS".
> .

That is not my "excuse". Your all-round compliant IE can't even open
links in background, let alone via a keyboard shortcut. Pfui. There
are about 35 more similarly convincing reasons (such as zooming in and
out of webpages and, in a lightning flash, mouse-gesturing your way
back and forth in each window's browsing history). I wouldn't be using
IE if I was paid in dollars for doing so -- not because it's
Microsoft's product but because it's a poorer, less efficient product
than Opera. No time for playing around here: I need a browser for my
daily work, and Opera facilitates work better than IE.

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Re: FAQ and Opera

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DH> Sorry, my fault. It *is* the FAQ that works correctly with Opera
DH> 6.05 - in MSIE mode as in Opera mode.

Not quite correctly. Each BrainStorm published document is loaded as
a single web doc so that when you hit the navigation buttons, you're
taken pretty instantaneously to the page they points to. Opera
reloads the entire published document each time you hit a navigation
button to take you to another page.

If you use IE, you'll immediately see the difference in speed.

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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Luc!

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 10:14:41 PM you wrote:

>  No, i have Opera 6.05 idetified as Opera and the Faq works :-)
 
Tried it myself a few minutes after I wrote my mail - DSL is so swell!
- and it worked. shows me that DOM is far more developed in Opera than
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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marck!

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 10:06:06 PM you wrote:


> The rogues gallery is plain vanilla HTML They'll work with any
> browser. It's just the main "How to" pages that won't work on Opera,
> as will all the ancillary essay (Macros, templates, etc.) pages and
> the new Library page. I'll be uploading Mozilla compatible versions
> soon - hopefully this week. They do work on Mozilla as they stand but
> will soon work with Mozilla's DOM implementation. As for Opera... I
> doubt that they'll ever work with it :-(.

Sorry, my fault. It *is* the FAQ that works correctly with Opera 6.05
- in MSIE mode as in Opera mode. I tested both and the site behaved as
it should - considering what I know about BrainStorm after a few weeks
of testing!

DH>>*I think it is on purpose, not to close out Netscape, Lynx and
DH>>Opera users but to bolster up their statistics.

> Not really.

I will not go into that debate again ... But let me add that my
comment was solely about MS's website coding. Whenever I hit upon a
website/homepage by MS I get the message that my browser is not
compatible. When I then change the ID to MSIE 5.0 everything works
fine (except with the older code of Opera 5.0 on Macintosh, which has
some problems showing certain parts correct).

I know of your problems and you know my answers; my recent comment had
nothing to do with that.

BTW, thanks for updating my image, sorry to hear it would be the
(smaller, but worse) JPEG.


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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Luc]

 Good evening Dierk,
  
It was foretold that on 17-8-2002 @ 19:33:09 GMT+0200 (which was
19:33:09 where I live) Dierk Haasis spread these wise comments:
  

DH> Could it be that I still identified as MSIE 5.0 - a
DH>setting I usually only need for MS's own sites, which use the
DH>stupidest browser identification*.
  
 No, i have Opera 6.05 idetified as Opera and the Faq works :-)
 
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Re: FAQ and Opera

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Dierk,

@17-Aug-2002, 19:33 +0200 (18:33 UK time) Dierk Haasis [DH] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

DH>I haven't been to the FAQ for some time, and visited them today
DH>   (I was looking for the rogues gallery which should get a current
DH>   photo of me (more on this on private mail).

Good - anyone else want to update theirs? Feel free!

DH>   I was  positively surprised - although you still strongly advise
DH>   (too  strong I might add), the page works with Opera 6.05
DH>   seamlessly  as it should.

The rogues gallery is plain vanilla HTML They'll work with any
browser. It's just the main "How to" pages that won't work on Opera,
as will all the ancillary essay (Macros, templates, etc.) pages and
the new Library page. I'll be uploading Mozilla compatible versions
soon - hopefully this week. They do work on Mozilla as they stand but
will soon work with Mozilla's DOM implementation. As for Opera... I
doubt that they'll ever work with it :-(.

DH>*I think it is on purpose, not to close out Netscape, Lynx and
DH>Opera users but to bolster up their statistics.

Not really. Opera is the least compatible or useful browser of all of
those I have tried to write compatible code for*. It is inconsistent
and infuriating (from a developer's viewpoint). Mozilla is a far more
stable and compliant browser in all respects from my POV (although
even it is quirky and only IE has the all round compliance and
stability). I had an Opera code guru try to help me sort out why it
was giving me so much trouble and even they were unable to improve
things for me. It's a shame, because the theory is good. I am
surprised that anyone would accept the kind of poor performance I
experienced from it every time I ran it up. All I hear by way of
excuse is "at least it's not MS". . Talk about babies and
bath-water!

*and I spent quite some time trying.

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Re: Regex help-hilfe-ajuto needed

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Mandara,

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 9:35:24 PM you [M] wrote (at least in
part):

M>   Is there some elegant formula which would take only one line you
M>   chose by the first word in the line?

You nearly got it:

^From:\s*(.*?)\n

You see the difference? The question mark is _inside_ the parentheses
and it searches for the 'newline' explicitly.
This should work quite fine and have everything after "'From:' followed
by any number of white spaces but before 'new line'" in sub pattern 1.
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Re: Disappearing Ticker

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Dierk,

@17-Aug-2002, 19:13 +0200 (18:13 UK time) Dierk Haasis [DH] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jeanny:

>> Any insight would be appreciated.

DH> ... (HKCU, Software, RIT, Ticker). IIRC, you have to change the
DH> values for Top and Left to zero - BUT DON'T DO ANYTHING without
DH> further confirmation from other sources on this list. I think
DH> especially of Thomas F., Marck, Allie and Peter Palmreuther, they
DH> know the correct setting to change.

Confirmed!

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[Mandara]

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Hello,

  I need just one simple thing: extract a defined *single line* from
  message header and put it in body of reply.

  But no matter how is that simple, I couldn't do that.

  This one "^From: (.*)?$" extracts to much and doesn't stop at the
  end of line (includes entire header from the "from" line downward).

  This one "^From: (.*?)\.\w+\s*" extracts only till dot in address
  domain name (e.g "Name mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x257DFF36>
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Glyphs for TB

[Mandara]

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Aloha!

Hello again after a certain pause. I hope everything is still OK and
all are alive and well.

A while ago there was a word about Bat's glyphs here. They recommended
me to see Tony Boom's article at:
 in this regard. Now we have
another article of how to make own glyphs and/or how to use glyphs
already modified by other users, in two languages:
. A small archive of such a
glyphs can be downloaded too. Also there is an idea of making sort of
glyphs "gallery" and enthusiasts are welcomed, if any.


I don't know if is possible, for those who can't receive mail from
tbudl for a while, using a similar address as this one for digest mode
is? Would be easier just to switch to "nomail mode" instead
un-subscribing.


Be happy,

Mandara
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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Mark!

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 8:29:29 PM you wrote:

DRS>> Doesn't happen here using The_Bat! v1.62/beta1 under Win2k (SP3).

> ...Now *that's* living on the edge...

What part, the TB! beta, Win2K, or its SP3?


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Re[3]: moving TB

[Mark Wieder]

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 9:54:15 AM, using Mercury/32
 you wrote:

DRS> I totally agree Mark with a large dependency placed on what OS resided on
DRS> the PI and what OS is being run on the PIV. Registry hives differ moving
DRS> from a 9x series OS to a Win2k/XP OS.

Er, yes, excellent point. I tend to forget sometimes that nothing
under Windows is obvious.

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Re: Tagline

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Musson [TM] wrote:'

TM> I like creating a Quick Template for my sig, then referencing the QT
TM> in my message templates.  That way if I want to change something I
TM> only have to change the QT and the change shows everywhere...

TM> %QInclude="gSig"<-- the line in my message templates that gets my
TM> sig below...

I do this as well. However, she'll have to go through all her
templates to include that macro since she is setting out to do this
for the first time. I do agree though that using a QT would make any
future adjustments much easier. Thanks for the addition.

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Re[2]: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Mark Wieder]

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 4:40:41 AM you wrote:

DRS> Doesn't happen here using The_Bat! v1.62/beta1 under Win2k (SP3).

...Now *that's* living on the edge...

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Re: Tagline

[Tim Musson]

Hey Allie,

My MUA believes '(X-Mailer not set)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 2:00:36 PM.

E>> How do I set up all mail to contain the following as a tagline
E>> after my messages (as it appears here beneath my name)?

ACM> You'll have to include the text as part of your signature in all
ACM> your message templates. There is no centralized that you can add
ACM> text to be included in all messages, across accounts.

ACM> The closest you could get is to use only account templates and then
ACM> add it to the account templates. It will then be added to all
ACM> messages sent from that account.

I like creating a Quick Template for my sig, then referencing the QT
in my message templates.  That way if I want to change something I
only have to change the QT and the change shows everywhere...

%QInclude="gSig"<-- the line in my message templates that gets my
sig below...

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Re: Tagline

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Elaine.

At 1:51 PM on Saturday, August 17, 2002 you [E]
wrote the following about Tagline:

E> How do I set up all mail to contain the following as a tagline
E> after my messages (as it appears here beneath my name)?
E> Elaine

  It depends on a number of factors, i.e how you
  use templates, etc.

  But the first thing you need to do is to create
  a basic QT [quick template] which contains this
  information. This is a building block in TB!
  templates.

  To do that, go to Options -> Quick Templates or
  press Q

  Click "Add"
  Handle= sig [or whatever you want to call it]
  Description = describe it
  Click 'Share w other accounts'
  [unless you don't want to].

  In the template area include:

,-
| Post message:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subscribe:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Unsubscribe:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| List owner:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| %ISSIGNATURE
'-

   Now to test it out, just open a new msg & type
   'sig' [without quotes] & press  &
   it will appear. Change the template until you
   like it.

   To automate it further you can add this
   template in the same way [using %QINCLUDE=] to
   all your default templates which you can find
   by going to the main menu:

   Account --> Properties --> Templates -->
   New Message or Reply or Forward or all of them

   In any one of those templates you can add the
   following:

   %QINCLUDE='sig' [or whatever you've called it]

   Now any time, you start a new msg you will see
   this information in the msg. Likewise for
   reply, etc.

   You can also add this to any template in any
   group or AB address or folder template.

   Doing it this way will allow you to change all
   of them at once if you need to change your
   signature for some reason.

   HTH

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Re: Tagline

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Etm [E] wrote:'

E> How do I set up all mail to contain the following as a tagline
E> after my messages (as it appears here beneath my name)?

You'll have to include the text as part of your signature in all
your message templates. There is no centralized that you can add
text to be included in all messages, across accounts.

The closest you could get is to use only account templates and then
add it to the account templates. It will then be added to all
messages sent from that account.

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Re[2]: Font sizes

[Databug]

Hello Allie,
On the 17/08/2002, you babbled on about "Font sizes" 

D>> Thanks that`s brilliant. oh and a suggestion for future versions
D>> of the Bat. I know customizable Toolbars have been suggested by
D>> many and I would like to see this also but in addition how about
D>> re-sizable button banks. Not sure if such a thing can be done.
D>> But under my current screen res the buttons are very small.

ACM> Have you switched to large fonts in your system display settings?
ACM> This will make things, i.e., fonts and window elements, generally
ACM> bigger and yet you enjoy the higher resolution.

I have yes. And I`ve fiddled with the advanced settings too and
changed the font sizes individually. Unfortunately message requester
still remain in tiny font mode. I mean the requesters that say things
like "do you really want to delete etc" but then all this is a bit OT
for "the Bat list :).

That`s all for now

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Tagline

[ETM]

How do I set up all mail to contain the following as a tagline
after my messages (as it appears here beneath my name)?

Many thanks in advance.

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FAQ and Opera

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marck!

   I haven't been to the FAQ for some time, and visited them today (I
   was looking for the rogues gallery which should get a current photo
   of me (more on this on private mail). I was positively surprised -
   although you still strongly advise (too strong I might add), the
   page works with Opera 6.05 seamlessly as it should.

   Did you change the code - surely not as it says "DOM required".
   Opera didn't change anything about DOM, that is they didn't
   advertise it. Could it be that I still identified as MSIE 5.0 - a
   setting I usually only need for MS's own sites, which use the
   stupidest browser identification*.


   *I think it is on purpose, not to close out Netscape, Lynx and
   Opera users but to bolster up their statistics.


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Re: Disappearing Ticker

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Jeanny!

On Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 5:27:21 PM you wrote:

> Any insight would be appreciated.

Seems it has wandered off the screen; look in the registry for the
appropriate settings (HKCU, Software, RIT, Ticker). IIRC, you have to
change the values for Top and Left to zero - BUT DON'T DO ANYTHING
without further confirmation from other sources on this list. I think
especially of Thomas F., Marck, Allie and Peter Palmreuther, they know
the correct setting to change.




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Re[2]: moving TB

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Saturday, August 17, 2002
12:49:04 PM
RE: "moving TB"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings Mark,

On Thursday, August 15, 2002, 6:03:37 PM, you wrote:

Mark> Most things can be transferred over from the old directories,
Mark> but registry entries are a special breed. If you export the registry to a
Mark> text file you can import individual keys (TheBat! registration and such)
Mark> after the move.

I totally agree Mark with a large dependency placed on what OS resided on
the PI and what OS is being run on the PIV. Registry hives differ moving
from a 9x series OS to a Win2k/XP OS.

Just my thoughts.

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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Chris Montgomery]

Howdy Peter,

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 10:22:51 AM, Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> Oops, I have never seen that. I have the setup as above - there have never
PM> been any mouseover effects. Can it have to do with the OS (Win98SE here)?

Dunno. I'm using Win2k.

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Re: Font sizes

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Databug [D] wrote:'

D> Thanks that`s brilliant. oh and a suggestion for future versions
D> of the Bat. I know customizable Toolbars have been suggested by
D> many and I would like to see this also but in addition how about
D> re-sizable button banks. Not sure if such a thing can be done.
D> But under my current screen res the buttons are very small.

Have you switched to large fonts in your system display settings?
This will make things, i.e., fonts and window elements, generally
bigger and yet you enjoy the higher resolution.

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Re: HTML

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Thomas,
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:31:50 +0700, you wrote:

> This is getting OT, because we can neither change the POP protocol and
> write POP4, nor can we change the RFC's. But I am curious as to how it
> would save bandwidth if the whole mail has to be read, converted if
> necessary, and only then the converted message downloaded. I would
> also be interested to know how the mail client could convert the
> message without downloading it to begin with.

Why would you have to go about converting protocols?  If I remember correctly
(you may want to look at the IMAP4rev1), the IMAP protocol supports the retrival
of partial bodies of messages.  I know TB! IMAP support is lacking, but
hopefully that'd be fixed in v2.

Here is a snippet from the IMAP4rev1 RFC 2060:

=
2.4.Message Texts

   In addition to being able to fetch the full [RFC-822] text of a
   message, IMAP4rev1 permits the fetching of portions of the full
   message text.  Specifically, it is possible to fetch the [RFC-822]
   message header, [RFC-822] message body, a [MIME-IMB] body part, or a
   [MIME-IMB] header.
=

I may have miss-understood that, but to me it reads that you can download
selected portitions of the mail if and when needed (which is the whole idea
behind IMAP).  IMAP can save a lot of bandwidth as it only retrieves the headers
for folder listings, and only downloads the mail when you want to read it, and
if it is spam, you simply delete before retrieving the rest of the body ;)

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Disappearing Ticker

[Jeanny House]

Help! All of a sudden, my MailTicker has disappeared.  I've always had
it set to display messages that are filtered to certain folders, but
not to others; however, now, it's just not popping up at all.

I'm using TheBat! v. 1.61 under Windows XP Professional.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Eddie,

on Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:55:42 +0200GMT (17.08.02, 08:55 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

EC> I think that Chris means something else. When you have a split mode of
EC> 3 the uper right is the (I think in English) Newswindow. Where all
EC> eMails of a folder are shown. When you select a few of them and then
EC> move the Cursor into this Window then a Statistic shows up telling you
EC> how many Msg are in this folder and how many are selected.

Oops, I have never seen that. I have the setup as above - there have never
been any mouseover effects. Can it have to do with the OS (Win98SE here)?

EC> So Chris wants to know if this can be disabled.

I do not want to know how to enable it. ;-)

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Re: Mass mailing template

[jan rifkinson]

Hi Brian.

At 11:08 AM on Saturday, August 17, 2002 you [BS]
wrote the following about Mass mailing template:

BS> I want to use the mass mailing template but
BS> but this does not seem to allow for a subject
BS> line in the e-mail.

  Have you tried %SUBJECT = "text"

,- [Macro Help Excerpt]
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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[Chris Montgomery]

Howdy Eddie,

Saturday, August 17, 2002, 1:55:42 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote:

EC> I think that Chris means something else. When you have a split mode of
EC> 3 the uper right is the (I think in English) Newswindow. Where all
EC> eMails of a folder are shown. When you select a few of them and then
EC> move the Cursor into this Window then a Statistic shows up telling you
EC> how many Msg are in this folder and how many are selected.

EC> So Chris wants to know if this can be disabled.

EC> To my knowledge - No!

That's exactly what I meant, but I don't think it matters about the
split mode. In fact, I just tested all of the split mode displays and
the little yellow pop-up window shows in all of them when mousing over
the message list with either message auto view turned on or off.

And that's what I thought the answer would be, but had to ask anyway.

Guess I can live with it. Thanks!

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Mass mailing template

[Brian Stephenson]

Dear TBUDL,

  I want to use the mass mailing template but but this does not seem
  to allow for a subject line in the e-mail.

  Is there a way to enter a subject line without editing each
  individual mail?
  

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Re[2]: Font sizes

[Databug]

Hello Thomas,
On the 17/08/2002, you babbled on about "Font sizes" 


TF> FAQ: Where do I change the font?
TF> 

TF> Editor:
TF> Options / Editor Preferences / Display

TF> Viewer:
TF> Options / Preferences / Viewer

TF> Source View:
TF> Options / Preferences / Source View

TF> Message List:
TF> Options / Message List Fonts and Colours

TF> Folder Pane and Message Header Pane (the latter mistakenly called
TF> Message Pane):
TF> Options / Preferences / System / Fonts

TF> (Have I forgotten one?)

Thanks that`s brilliant. oh and a suggestion for future versions of
the Bat. I know customizable Toolbars have been suggested by many and
I would like to see this also but in addition how about re-sizable
button banks. Not sure if such a thing can be done. But under my
current screen res the buttons are very small.

That`s all for now

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Saving Html messages as:

[Ron Secord]

Hi TBUDL,

First off, I hate HTML messages as much as anyone, but here at work I
am forced to use M$ Outlook 2002 on an Exchange Server. What I have
set up is an account within TB! so that I can save a message and
import it to TB! and reply if needed. It works fairly well on text
only messages. The problem is that when I recieve an html message, I
am having quite a bit of difficulty saving these so that I can import
them into TB!. Does anyone have any ideas how to do this? TIA

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Re: Copying filters to another account

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ivan,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:03:45 UTGMT (17-8-02, 14:03 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

IV> Is there a way to quickly copy all the filters from one account to
IV> another one?

Select a filter, Ctrl-C, paste it into notepad or SmartBat, when
you've copied all of them, select all filters in your texteditor, Copy
and paste them all at once in your target account.

In case the target is a new account.
Close TB
Copy the file account.srx from your old account to your new account.
Start TB again and check whether it's to your liking.

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Re: Font sizes

[Thomas F.]

Hello Databug,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:45:17 +0100 GMT (17/08/02, 21:45 +0700 GMT),
Databug wrote:

D> Now i`ve sorted out how to change all the font sizes with the
D> exception of the font in the lister tree. Does this size change in
D> the system setting. Either way can someone give me a clue as to
D> where to change them?

There is a weakness in TB's GUI: The font-change options are "all over
the place". I have now tried to make a complete listing, which I hope
helps you and future generations:

FAQ: Where do I change the font?


Editor:
Options / Editor Preferences / Display

Viewer:
Options / Preferences / Viewer

Source View:
Options / Preferences / Source View

Message List:
Options / Message List Fonts and Colours

Folder Pane and Message Header Pane (the latter mistakenly called
Message Pane):
Options / Preferences / System / Fonts

(Have I forgotten one?)

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Re: moving TB (Files)

[Thomas F.]

Hello Tony,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:07:29 +1000 GMT (17/08/02, 08:07 +0700 GMT),
Tony wrote:

T> The problem is that I transfered all of the content of my old Pentium
T> 1 to a new Pentium 4  including stored E-Mail messages.

T> I now can't open any of my registered version!

Did you transfer the relevant registry entries? Don't worry about the
Pentium version, what is your OS and version?

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Re: getting number of messages

[Thomas F.]

Hello Brano,

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:12:39 +0200 GMT (17/08/02, 04:12 +0700 GMT),
Brano wrote:

TF>> You'd better report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then.

B> I tried:

B>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
B> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
B> (reason: 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown)

Ups, the address has changed. Please use Help / Feedback / Bugreports.
It will generate an email with the correct address.

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Re: HTML

[Thomas F.]

Hello Pete,

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:46:37 -0600 GMT (17/08/02, 09:46 +0700 GMT),
Pete Milne wrote:

TF>> No. With the POP protocol, can just download mails (or not). In any
TF>> case, a conversion could take place only after download.

PM> Just a thought, it would save some bandwidth and maybe some
PM> vulnerabilities.

This is getting OT, because we can neither change the POP protocol and
write POP4, nor can we change the RFC's. But I am curious as to how it
would save bandwidth if the whole mail has to be read, converted if
necessary, and only then the converted message downloaded. I would
also be interested to know how the mail client could convert the
message without downloading it to begin with.

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Font sizes

[Databug]

Hello all,
I`ve just upped my screen res due to recent Graphic card purchase. Now
i`ve sorted out how to change all the font sizes with the exception of
the font in the lister tree. Does this size change in the system
setting. Either way can someone give me a clue as to where to change
them?

That`s all for now

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Re: Folder properties

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Pat,

@17-Aug-2002, 16:08 +0400 (13:08 UK time) Pat Gilbert [PG] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat!:

PG> I was hoping that the Bat! allowed passwords on a folder basis but
PG> I can only see an account password. Is there a way to do this?

Yes. Create a locked account and filter the spam to the trash folder
of that account (yes, you can do that!).

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Copying filters to another account

[Ivan Vecanski]

Is there a way to quickly copy all the filters from one account to
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Re: Blank Messages

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Raj [R] wrote:'

R> What do you mean by message sources ??? What I had pasted in the
R> message was the headers (pressing F9).

F9 will bring up the message 'view source' window. This is what I
meant.

Well, it would appear that you had nothing else in the source
looking like header text.

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Re: Folder properties

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote:'

MO> No, there isn't. You can however use Selective Download
MO> filtering instead, that way the spam won't even reach your
MO> computer. The problem with this method is that you can't browse
MO> the filtered messages to see if something has been filtered
MO> which shouldn't, but if you don't want to do that, try the
MO> Selective Download.

In the selective filters, you can choose to ignore the spam
messages, rather than to delete them. In this way, they'll remain on
the server for you to examine and manage them using the Dispatcher.

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Re[2]: Blank Messages

[Raj]

Allie,

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, at 05:32:11 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:02 PM where I live) you
wrote:

ACM> What do you see when you look at the message sources?

What do you mean by message sources ??? What I had pasted in the message was the
headers (pressing F9).

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Replied on Saturday, August 17, 2002 using TB Ver 1.61 on Windows 2000



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Re: non-moving / folder-specific rule?

[jan rifkinson]

Hi Alexandros.

At 7:47 PM on Friday, August 16, 2002 you [AC]
wrote the following about non-moving /
folder-specific rule?:

AC> [...] I thought of coloring
AC> to blue all the messages I reply to using the
AC> sorting office.

AC> Alas, I cannot set the rule correctly. My
AC> problem is the "Source folder" and "Move
AC> Message to folder" options. I want to do that
AC> for all messages in the account, regardless of
AC> their folder, and for god's sake not to
AC> move them anywhere [/...]

  The moving issue is no problem as long as you
  leave the source & move folder the same. But to
  your other question, I don't know how practical
  a suggestion [or whether it would really work]
  but suppose you left all your msgs in the Inbox
  or $KNOWN$ folder.

  There you answer what you want to answer & set
  all your filters to move & color under replied
  messages.

  Then those msgs left over could be subjected to
  a move action based on age, i.e. if it stays in
  the Inbox or $KNOWN$ folder for 1 day move to
  Trash or wherever.

  HTH

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
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Re: Folder properties

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Saturday, August 17, 2002, 14:08, Pat Gilbert wrote:

> The Bat! neatly moves all the rubbish to the trash folder and I have
> set it to delete on exit.

> I was hoping that the Bat! allowed passwords on a folder basis but I
> can only see an account password. Is there a way to do this?

No, there isn't. You can however use Selective Download filtering
instead, that way the spam won't even reach your computer. The problem
with this method is that you can't browse the filtered messages to see
if something has been filtered which shouldn't, but if you don't want
to do that, try the Selective Download.

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Folder properties

[Pat Gilbert]

Hi,
I am starting to recieve more unpleasant spam (hardcore) at home and I
have set up necessary filters. The Bat! neatly moves all the rubbish
to the trash folder and I have set it to delete on exit. The problem
is that I want to prevent my young children, whilst still in the same
session from then opening the trash folder and reading the spam
anyway.

I was hoping that the Bat! allowed passwords on a folder basis but I
can only see an account password. Is there a way to do this?

Many thanks for any assistance - I am still trying to get a handle on
the power in this excellent program.

 
Pat Gilbert  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[3]: moving TB (Files)

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Saturday, August 17, 2002
7:41:45 AM
RE: "moving TB (Files)"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings Tony,

On Friday, August 16, 2002, 9:07:29 PM, you wrote:

Tony> The problem is that I transfered all of the content of my old Pentium
Tony> 1 to a new Pentium 4  including stored E-Mail messages.

Tony> I now can't open any of my registered version!

Did you install The_Bat! on the new PIV prior to restoring your backup and
is your "transferred" data in the proper directories and mirror the initial
install on the PI?

A clean install of The_Bat! will create the proper registry entries and
pointers (required) THEN you may transfer the data to the appropriate
The_Bat! directories and sub directories.

Hope this helps.

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 DG Raftery Sr.

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Press any key...no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!

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Re: Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Saturday, August 17, 2002
7:39:12 AM
RE: "Turning Off Msg List Status Pop-up"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings Chris,

On Friday, August 16, 2002, 10:08:46 PM, you wrote:

Chris>   Is there any way to disable the little yellow status pop-up (# total
Chris>   msgs, # unread msgs, # selected msgs) that appears when you first
Chris>   move your mouse cursor over a message list? I find this really
Chris>   annoying.

Doesn't happen here using The_Bat! v1.62/beta1 under Win2k (SP3).

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Home is where the computer is plugged in.

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Re: Blank Messages

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Saturday, August 17, 2002
7:33:48 AM
RE: "Blank Messages"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings Raj,

On Saturday, August 17, 2002, 1:27:57 AM, you wrote:

Raj> Any ideas ???

Looks like someone is running X-Ray App and stripped to much data from the
headers and body making the message blank. I have found, playing around
with X-Ray App that stripping data out of the header fields like Sender,
Recipient, Subject and a few of the X-Headers results in blank To: From:
Subject: and body.

This would be my guess.

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Re: Blank Messages

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Raj [R] wrote:'

R> Two messages were totally blank. One where the mouse cursor is
R> and the other which selected (the reverse blue band)

R> I am giving below the headers recovered from each of the mails ?

R> Any ideas ???

What do you see when you look at the message sources?

This has happened to me before and in all those instances, message
headers were noted to be in the message body. Upon looking at the
source, I noted that for some reason, a blank line was in the
headers and TB! thought the space indicated that the headers were
finished.

To fix it, I exported the messages, removed the blank line and then
re-imported. They were OK.

What caused it? I have no idea since they were legitimate mailing
list messages. No one else seemed to be receiving them in that form
and it was sporadic and not always from the same person or MUA.

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Re: "Recipient Not Authorised" error message

[Gerard]

ON Friday, August 16, 2002, 6:00:16 PM, you wrote:


S> I've checked the btconnect website for setup information but can't find
S> anything and they only give support to e-mail problems with OE so they're
S> not interested in problems with TB.

I had a look at the BT website for you and although there is only a
Outlook example al the info is there. Also nothing special or out of the
ordinary.

For the error you are getting I would suggest you check for typing
errors. Only a few days ago some typed groops instead of groups.

An option is to copy&paste (ctrl-c / ctrl-v) the info from the Outlook
setup fields to TB!


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Best regards,
 Gerard 
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Re: Blank Messages

[William Moore]

 Hello Raj

 Thank you for your email dated Saturday, August 17, 2002, 6:55:42 AM, in which you 
wrote:

  R> If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan?

  They use three-week-old fried egg as the bonding agent.
  
-- 

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 William

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