Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only begun affecting me for the last few weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream... I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it. And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with the same POP server. David Boggon _ using 1.62r Windows 2000 5 0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Rogue emails on this TBUDL
This was mentioned earlier. His mails carry the 'SOBIG' marker of X-MailScanner: Found to be clean. If you are filtering on that, add a Sender: Angliss ... No filter. JA It shouldn't be any more... I changed mail server and the new mail JA scanner uses a different header. If it's still picking up that one, JA then I've probably messed up a setting somewhere. However, if a filter JA on X-Mailscanner can kill TB dead, might that be considered a big JA bug? This one managed to download without any complaint. I use Sophos AV for NT. What happened was that the download just stopped on previous Angliss emails, and required killing the Bat from the task list. I guess it might be an AV problem rather than a BAT problem. Mark Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
23-Aug-2003 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, the only problem that remains is that Günter is using 1.62r... ;-) Exactly, that's the problem :-) Some kind of virus transmitted from the Beta list? I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups and everything like the plague. [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail adresses, or something] -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Joseph, Yes. Right-click/Thread/Park. If there's a keyboard shortcut, I'm not aware of it. You can probably set up a hotkey, though. Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
Hallo Karen, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:43:56 -0500GMT (23-8-03, 1:43 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KK Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this KK mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash! Does this happen on receiving them or on closing TB. If it's the latter than maybe you've changed the properties of the inbox to remove messages older than zero days. You can check these properties by selecting the inbox in the account tree pane and click the right mouse button. KK I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same KK result. What's up with this? If it's on receipt of the messages, your sorting office could be corrupted in some peculiar way. So you could delete the file including your filters and start afresh. This can be done as follows: Close TB Delete the file account.srx in your account directory (Unless you've changed that yourself, the account directories can be found with the explorer in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ ) Start TB and add new filters. If this doesn't help, your TB setup could be corrupted and you might consider uninstalling TB (without removing the accounts and message bases). Afterwards install TB again, pointing it to your existing accounts -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
On Saturday, 23 August 2003, MAU wrote: M Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park M Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark M At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i. There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes don't seem to do anything for me). -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [real] Re: lost password
Hallo io219, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:57:11 -0500GMT (23-8-03, 1:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: QS. . . he's discovered he's lost his password. He QS has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration icn Wow, that's a pretty good idea, I might have to do that... As long as you didn't format your harddisk, you could save the registry entries for TB. This can be done from the dos prompt with: C:\windows\regedit.exe /e C:\TheBat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT Among others it saves the key 'SoftwareRegistrationId' that takes care of this. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying all filters from one account to another?
Hallo Jim, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:26:27 -0700GMT (22-8-03, 22:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JD Is there a faster/easier way to copy filters from one account in my JD Bat to another other than copy/paste each individual filter at a JD time? As long as you haven't entered any filters in the second account, you might consider copying the account.srx file from the first to the second account. As that file contains your complete sorting office, you'd copy all of your filters. When you only want to copy some selection of filters to an existing account, you can use use the copy/paste method, but in stead of copying each filter immediately to the target account, you could use a text editor (eg SmartBat) as a go between. The advantage is that that both your text editor and the sorting office can be opened at the same, so you won't be opening and close the sorting offices from both accounts continuously. And besides even though you can copy only one filter at a time from the sorting office, you can paste multiple filters into it. (As long as they're all incoming or all outgoing or whatever). -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
Hallo io219, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:53:42 -0500GMT (22-8-03, 21:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: icn 2) keyboard shortcuts are not being saved, wah! Did you per chance restore your TB-accounts from a CD-ROM archive after some when installing TB again? When the file shortcut.cfg has the read-only flag set, you can't edit it. The default location for that file is: C:\Program File\The Bat!\Mail\Shortcut.CFG If that isn't the case. What OS are you using? Do you have access rights to that folder and not only it's subfolders? Is there any reason you OS would limit your access to that file/folder? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hallo Tim, On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:41:50 +1000GMT (23-8-03, 10:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Ctrl+Alt+0 to Park M Ctrl+Alt+9 to Unpark M At least that is what the context menu shows on v1.62i. T There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes T don't seem to do anything for me). Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself. Though you ought to see the actions. In the message list right click a message, go to thread and the thread actions pop up. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @23-Aug-2003, 07:57 Mark said to Jonathan: ... What happened was that the download just stopped on previous Angliss emails, and required killing the Bat from the task list. I guess it might be an AV problem rather than a BAT problem. It is. When the AV spots a suspected virus, it's locking the file which leaves TB high and dry - it was in the middle of using that file and didn't expect to have the rug pulled quite so firmly from under its feet. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0c3KDnkJKuSnc2gEQKU+ACg5jyKtFkwaqe3QqyD4BMJvi6Aev4AnRHs VlWIOs5lDBFRlMGqwvTtrQdD =43Cj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Roelof, Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself. No, not at all. I'm a mouse oriented user. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Tim, There's nothing on the context menu in v1.62q (and those keystrokes don't seem to do anything for me). What's your setting for View/View threads by? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smartbat
* Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [SmartBat] What's it for? It appears to be a text editor, but what is its purpose? You -can- put text/notes in there . . . [...] You can link a pad with some text file (F6, right click, New Pad, select a text file). If you receive newsletters you could extract relevant or important parts from those mails using TB! filters and append them to that file linked to SmartBat. There was¹ a German website where you could input your favorite actors, directors, movies genres etc and they sent you a newsletter telling you when there was something on TV that fitted your preferences. Needless to say that these newsletter came with a whole lot of advertising. So I created a filter to extract the one line with the important information and appended it to a text file. Later I just had to press F6 to take a look at the list of good movies on TV the next days. Just a thought about using SmartBat. Carsten ¹ I received their last mail in April. Hm, there are still some movies from time to time on TV. So I guess they quit their business. -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:27:42 PM, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are absolutely right, this should be fixed. But how? IIRC Rit had problems reproducing this bug. You know of this problem? Yes. You were somehow involved in attempting to fix it? No. Yes, bugs can sometimes be difficult to reproduce, especially when networking is involved. I don't know how they fix it, I don't have the code. Me neither. But if you leave your mails on the server for some days you should try to change that setting to »Delete received messages from server«. I'm not saying that there will be no more problems, but don't be surprised if things get better. One (or two?) users reported this as a working workaround... just try it. -- Carsten Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
Hello dajabo, Saturday, August 23, 2003, 3:58:02 AM, you wrote: This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only begun affecting me for the last few weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream... I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it. And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with the same POP server. Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail checking installed? or a spam checker installed? Is it possible that the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages? -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hallo MAU, On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:47:52 +0200GMT (23-8-03, 11:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Probably they're shortcuts Miguel entered himself. M No, not at all. I'm a mouse oriented user. That may be, but on my system there isn't any shortcut for those actions and though I'm more keyboard oriented I don't alter/delete shortcuts. (Those that are here already suffice for my purpose.) Have you got a shortcut.cfg file in TB's mail directory? Close TB and rename that file to shortcut.old Open TB and see whether the shortcuts to (un)park full threads are still present. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karen Kay, [KK] wrote: KK It used to be that my filtering filtered mail into folders, and KK anything not already filtered would go to the Inbox. KK Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this KK mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash! KK I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same KK result. What's up with this? Before this started, did you make any changes to your filtering? - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0dVlVfJ62ArBxfiEQKijACfdr1KxnuCZ8VWdFI8C0+QYV6rJhYAnAxy xK9rc7g0ennhlLEvmT0WaAAh =l8V3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander, [A] wrote: A I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups and A everything like the plague. A [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a A fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. A I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail A adresses, or something] One of my least affected addresses where spamming is concerned is the address I use for all my yahoo subscriptions. shrug - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0dWS1fJ62ArBxfiEQI88wCfcjEie7efT+/ZX4b16NNWGKIHnd4AnR12 9TBeAyToqNNchlRtEd7T7rPm =brkc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 22 Aug 2003 23:52:21 (my local time 23 aug 2003 00:52:21), you typed: MDP Any AV software or firewall software in use MDP locally? Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into the OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA that is known to cause problems with TB? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V2.0 Beta/1, on Windows XP 5 1 build 2600 Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/R1dtODlJeoMTOQsRApb0AJsGqPBDXGHvROUWnYW1bRF9rE8WXgCbBqQO Dc7Ay0bQjs61Gt6Mk9r6J/o= =oodY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
Hello Krister, -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:00:22 AM, you wrote: KE Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into the KE OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA that is known KE to cause problems with TB? KE - -- Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA here. - -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0dZvnrWNKgp50M4EQIEAACfTahzaP0dKU2P3PwmG5Rm03yTlngAnRmA aW5/xno1k35IuHY/qikHiRoq =qtJs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
At 8:10 AM on 8/23/2003, danger h typed ... d Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA d here. So am I, but I've occasionally seen a problem. TB will try to check mail and ZA will begin using 99.9% of system resources. Occasionally the ZA process can be killed, but often the computer must be powered off. The current version of ZA seems to have resolved the problem and support at Zone Labs is generally willing to work with users to track down the problem. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/23/2003 at 8:32 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 614-324-7818 Cell: 614-893-4151 Fax: 877-870-4892 Random thought: It works better if you plug it in -- unless it's the cat. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 4:04:10 AM, Alexander wrote: A [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a A fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. A I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail A adresses, or something] I think you must have been unlucky, or failed to uncheck a box somewhere on your yahoo account, or something. I'm subscribed to more yahoo groups than I care to admit, I have about seven different addresses that I use for them, have not been spammed on any of them. I've been using Yahoo Groups for about four years now (since before it was Yahoo Groups, in fact, since it was egroups onelist). -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
23-Aug-2003 15:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since it was egroups onelist Ah, the good old days. 'nuff said. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Roelof, Have you got a shortcut.cfg file in TB's mail directory? Yes. Close TB and rename that file to shortcut.old Open TB and see whether the shortcuts to (un)park full threads are still present. Actions are there but no shortcut. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
Hello Alexander, I'm sorry I can't be of any further help. I avoid Yahoo, its groups and everything like the plague. [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail adresses, or something] I've used Yahoo groups for about 3 years. No spam or very little to even speak of it! You must be doing something different. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Krister, @23-Aug-2003, 14:00 +0200 (13:00 UK time) Krister Ekstrom [KE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP Any AV software or firewall software in use locally? KE Please reply off-list if you feel this begins to drift off into KE the OT-zone, but are there other firewall software besides ZA KE that is known to cause problems with TB? Only ZA has been reported as giving problems to TB (and other software). I use Kerio myself. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0d+eznkJKuSnc2gEQLXUQCdF4dWb0oMnCHmpqOkPeI4pnw+smEAoNDv i3gmeJ2aaAW/haJFFgXRySRG =N0ok -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
John- Friday, August 22, 2003, 7:29:08 PM, you wrote: JB P.S. The use of 'e' for email is my way of reducing abbreviations to a JB minimum. It is a noun, singular and plural, a verb and just about JB anything you want! ...and it takes a whole paragraph to explain, which sort of defeats the purpose... PMFJIB FWIW YMMV - IANAL (ROTFLMAOASTC) -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karen Kay, [KK] wrote: KK It used to be that my filtering filtered mail into folders, and KK anything not already filtered would go to the Inbox. KK Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this KK mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash! KK I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same KK result. What's up with this? Before this started, did you make any changes to your filtering? Nope. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reading confirmation
Hello Mark, In answer to yours of Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:03 AM: MW ...and it takes a whole paragraph to explain, which sort of defeats MW the purpose... Good one Mark - but now I don't have to do it again! -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
Hello Karen, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:02:54 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 11:02 +0700 GMT), Karen Kay wrote: 1.) You have a folder that moves messages From [EMAIL PROTECTED] to trash. No, I have a filter that moves messages addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Trash. This is what I want to happen. OK. Messages addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are also being moved to Trash, but I want messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], including TBUDL messages, to stay in the Inbox. Hm. You seem to be sure that there is no filter that catches other parts of the message and therefore moves it to trash. 2.) TBUDL messages are being moved to trash. If all are moved, then de-activate the filters one by one and see when the unwanted behaviour stops. That's be the culprit. Er, thanks. I have about 50 filters, and I did get rid of them all, but it seemed that the moment I put the first filter, this behavior started again. You deleted all filters? Brave. I but then, you might have just renamed the appropriate file and restarted TB. And then you created only one filter (which says what?) and TB decided: That's enough. Anything addressed to this lady will be trashed. And you don't know why. Bats have feelings too, you know. I recently took care of three turtles for a few weeks for a friend, and he is now back. I treated them well and they made no serious problems, except for a spout of diarrhea for a few days. Are you sure you talk to your bat daily, feed it the appropriate insects, and treat it with respect? Scratch that. Or comment on TBOT, if you will. I finished a paper on Wireless Networking last night at 1am, presented it today, and just prepared a 111-slide PowerPoint presentation on MIS for tomorrow afternoon. Actually it is a 3-hour tutoring session. Somehow I have the feeling I need to cut down the number of slides to 25%, but concentration is waning. Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still caused TB to send your message to trash? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
Hello Allie, On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:55:53 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 18:55 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: A [every time I subscribed to - private/closed - yahoo groups with a A fresh email account, it took only days until the spam started coming. A I have no proof but I have the feeling that yahoo is selling mail A adresses, or something] One of my least affected addresses where spamming is concerned is the address I use for all my yahoo subscriptions. shrug Same here. OTOH, I created a hotmail account, and before I even told anybody about it, I received spam on a daily basis. And it was not an easy-to-guess only-first-name-based account. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In an office: WOULD THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE STEP LADDER YESTERDAY PLEASE BRING IT BACK OR FURTHER STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote: Does this happen on receiving them or on closing TB. If it's the latter than maybe you've changed the properties of the inbox to remove messages older than zero days. You can check these properties by selecting the inbox in the account tree pane and click the right mouse button. No, I never touched this. If it's on receipt of the messages, your sorting office could be corrupted in some peculiar way. So you could delete the file including your filters and start afresh. This can be done as follows: Close TB Delete the file account.srx in your account directory (Unless you've changed that yourself, the account directories can be found with the explorer in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ ) Start TB and add new filters. If this doesn't help, your TB setup could be corrupted and you might consider uninstalling TB (without removing the accounts and message bases). Afterwards install TB again, pointing it to your existing accounts Okay. Deleting the account.srx file seems to have done the trick. My fingers are crossed! Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hm. You seem to be sure that there is no filter that catches other parts of the message and therefore moves it to trash. My filtering is all on sender, recipient, and subject. I went through and checked that. I finished a paper on Wireless Networking last night at 1am, presented it today, and just prepared a 111-slide PowerPoint presentation on MIS for tomorrow afternoon. Actually it is a 3-hour tutoring session. Somehow I have the feeling I need to cut down the number of slides to 25%, but concentration is waning. Whatever number of slides you have, make sure you print them in a handout so people can write on them. Especially for 3 hours, they will need something else to do. Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still caused TB to send your message to trash? Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved the problem. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Addresbook entries when added automatically
Hello Dan, On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can enter all addressees of your outgoing mail into your address book by creating an Outgoing Mail filter. Rule:Name: Add recipients to AB String: @ | Location: Recipient | Presence: Yes Actions: [x] Add Addresses to Address Book | Recipients PMFJI but this looks very useful. What do you enter into the move messages to folder box? -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
Hello Karen, On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:12:47 -0500 GMT (24/08/2003, 00:12 +0700 GMT), Karen Kay wrote: Actually it is a 3-hour tutoring session. Somehow I have the feeling I need to cut down the number of slides to 25%, but concentration is waning. Whatever number of slides you have, make sure you print them in a handout so people can write on them. Especially for 3 hours, they will need something else to do. What do you mean by they will need something else to do. No! They need to listen to me! putting foot firmly on floor (LOL) But you seem to have experience with presentations... But 111 slides is 19 pages. IMNSHO it *is* too much, even as a handout. Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still caused TB to send your message to trash? Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved the problem. Keep fingers crossed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Trees that grow in smoggy cities are needed to make carbon paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: iPac Sync
Hi Ricardo: RvE I just heard that everyone at our company is getting an Compaq iPaq RvE 1915. Main reason of course, so we all can sync our e-mail and RvE agenda/appointments with our laptops and so on. But I'm one of few RvE who's not using LookOut. Does anyone know if its possible to sync RvE with The Bat!? Plugings, third party software, what ever... The RvE iPaq runs Windows CE. I have not heard/confirmed the possibility to sync theBat! with PocketPC's. I have heard of the ability to sync theBat! with Palm Software (see threads on 8/11 and 8/13). However, one concern for Palm Users was the inability to sync to folders other than the Inbox. Given that one of theBat!'s main features is filtering e-mails to folders, the inability sync particular folders was a great disappointment. There are several other Bat! users who want/need this functionality to sync theBat! mails with PocketPc's. Every so often I do a Google search to see if someone has worked on this a project that would sync theBat! with PocketPCs. So far, no luck. If and when I come across any info, I will post it. Let us know if you come across any solutions. - Ricardo Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote: What do you mean by they will need something else to do. No! They need to listen to me! putting foot firmly on floor (LOL) But you seem to have experience with presentations... But 111 slides is 19 pages. IMNSHO it *is* too much, even as a handout. Probably. I think cutting out slides is almost never a mistake. Back to your problem, would you mind posting the one filter that still caused TB to send your message to trash? Too late; I deleted the account.srx file, which seems to have solved the problem. Keep fingers crossed. I am. I thought I ran into a glitch, but it was a false alarm. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sticky splash screen
Hello all, The splash screen that show up at the start of TB is quite nice, but not quite nice enough to stay there for as long as it does ;-) Is there anyway to cut it short? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v 2.0 beta/1 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: iPac Sync
Hi Ricardo, Saturday, August 23, 2003, 19:34:19, you wrote: RM If and when I come across any info, I will post it. RM Let us know if you come across any solutions. Thank you for your reply. I also did a search on google. When I find something, I will post it for sure ;) -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: IO219
Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Marck, MDP We should try to understand that he has come here angry and confused MDP about the way TB has been behaving for him and the lack of support MDP he feels he has experienced to date from RITlabs. There is one problem which is not cleared out yet - I could not find any message from him addressed to our support. Nor his address/first name is found in our registration database. So, some investigation is needed here :-) I understand that people on our support may fail sometimes before they become more experienced, but my impression about them in general is good. So, the general idea about our support is: if you don't like anything about it, please feel free to help them to become better :-) -- Regards, Stefan ...I use not only all the brains I have, but all I can borrow. - Woodrow Wilson Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sticky splash screen
On Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 19:49:55 GMT +0200 (which was 10:49 AM where I live) Ochrid wrote: Ochrid The splash screen that show up at the start of TB Ochrid is quite nice, but not quite nice enough to stay Ochrid there for as long as it does ;-) Ochrid Is there anyway to cut it short? Add /NOLOGO to the command line that loads The Bat! For example: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /NOLOGO This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2. -- ... Hugh T. Hodges Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 and Opera 7.20 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
TF Where/when does it hang? Connecting to server? well yes, connecting to host DR Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail DR checking installed? or a spam checker installed? Is it possible that DR the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages? yes I have Zone Alarm and a hardware wall (I keep ZA to monitor outgoing traffic). My McAffee AV has Outlook email scanning enabled, and its 'download and email scanning' enabled. I have no spam checker, and I don't know about the POP server verifying the email while I download the messages. Should I? As I said, I haven't made any configuration changes, that I am aware of, to the bat or to ZA or my anti-virus. As I'm writing this the connection center has been connecting to host for over 10 minutes to the pop server at postmark.net (I have 4 accounts here). I have one other account through my university that never seems to hang. -- dajabo The Bat! 1.62r on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 2195 5 0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Danger H, [DH] wrote: DH Excuse me but what problems does ZA have with The Bat? I am using ZA DH here. ZA is particularly notorious for cause connectivity problems with TB!. The reports are many and I had my own personal experience with it and ended up uninstalling it. The thing is that not everyone experiences these problems. Additionally, the problems don't always start immediately after installing ZA or TB! and it's this particular point that made my experience so miserable. They were working fine together and then the problems started. It therefore took me a long time to pin down the cause. I just never suspected ZA. Be that as it may, like myself, those who reported these problems also cured their problems by switching to another firewall. You may just be one of the fortunates who has been doing ok with it. The problems seem to be more common with NT based systems and for those who keep their machines running for extended periods between reboots. I think I'd still be using ZA if I rebooted my machine daily since my problems with it were always cured with a reboot and the problems would restart after a few days without rebooting. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0e5n1fJ62ArBxfiEQLcXwCfUEVo+1JH0FanNLZjGfBYLnQrCOEAoMNY TBP5B4NNFB7zbp4VmZtJ/8mu =khVA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote: In that case I'd have to agree with Roelof's impression that something has been corrupted and you may have to start fresh with your filters, i.e., actually deleting the accounts .srx file and recreating the filters. Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't know what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to have done the trick so far. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
strange return - blaster worm
Received a strange 'return' just now and would appreciate your collective experience in understanding it. mail delivery software Exim has intercepted a message with my email address in the return path. The message (it says) had a 'details.pif' attachment - which I believe is the blaster worm's The trouble is the address the malicious mail was addressed to, also that my computer is clean. I haven't had any blaster symptoms, or anything out of the ordinary to indicate an infestation, my AV is up to date and the MS patches. On top of that the email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] which resembles nothing I have ever used or keep in my address book. The xmailer is Outlook Express, in which I have deleted all account information, seeing as I'm now happy with the bat. I've even uninstalled it. Could it be this email was sent from another machine with my address inserted in the return path? Here are the headers that were returned to me: * Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [165.165.16.246] (helo=PC4) by nosgp1.openet.gov.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19qcc4-000LUV-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:55:44 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Details Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:56:08 +0200 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=_NextPart_000_027539F8 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multipart message in MIME format --_NextPart_000_027539F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please see the attached file for details. --_NextPart_000_027539F8 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=details.pif Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=details.pif *** David Boggon _ using 1.62r Windows 2000 5 0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [spam] strange return - blaster worm
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, dajabo wrote: Could it be this email was sent from another machine with my address inserted in the return path? That's how the worm works. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange return - blaster worm
Received a strange 'return' just now and would appreciate your collective experience in understanding it. Hi, I believe you're simply experiencing the ongoing battle with Sobig.f. Somewhere along the way your email address has been harvested (along with many of us) and is being 'spoofed' by the offending emails. details.pif is just one of many variants of the virus payload being sent around by these emails. hth. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sticky splash screen
Regarding The Bat's splash screen, at 1:49 PM on 8/23/2003, Ochrid typed ... O Is there anyway to cut it short? Click it and it flies away. (I didn't know that until now, but I thought I'd give it a try. This is a scary thought, but I'm beginning to think like a TB programmer: If you think the program should do something, it probably does; you just have to find it.) I usually just press Alt-F2 and TB starts checking for mail while the splash screen is still there. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 8/23/2003 at 3:55 PM William Blinn Communications, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 614-324-7818 Cell: 614-893-4151 Fax: 877-870-4892 Random thought: I'm gonna live forever, or die trying. -- Joseph Heller in Catch 22 Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karen Kay, [KK] wrote: KK Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't KK know what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to KK have done the trick so far. Did you manually recreate the filters from scratch. For the future, you could look at copying the filters to text file by just selecting each filter, hitting CTRL-C and pasting them in your favourite editor. When finished, delete the srx file, restart TB!, open the sorting offices and then paste the text files contents into the inbox filter set. That may end up saving you the tedium of having to recreate all those filters. It had better work since if I were in your situation, I'd have 64 inbox filters to recreate. :/ - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0fHyFfJ62ArBxfiEQLhXACfUe2QA9co2TIel1A+soF8CFm4RxwAn3gu yZRCAZk0g/gz7EJzPkkLo8QW =cCco -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can you Park a thread?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Joseph, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:38:00 -0500 GMT (8/22/2003, 9:38 PM +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: JN Yes. Right-click/Thread/Park. If there's a keyboard shortcut, I'm JN not aware of it. You can probably set up a hotkey, though. This works. Thanks! - -- Best regards, Dennis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAP0fK40Cs58Ew2H2PAQHjzAP+PUqPKhfokjKEsD3DPgtTQyrsta08hOQj TQDCif4dsiUf/bUdvyoQajqeraDZb9tbislpF8xHgj/NrLX+xgcWOxE1SnHQIm9B 25Z0vC0dJiKii/5goB/MJnvYzMG5Mg/p6wGJ7M9o7aArjbmM8bg2TlASX5bWvGKB 9uIcnmzZYUA= =G6fu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help file
While I'm generally happy with The Bat! as a powerful and versatile tool, I have to say that its Help file is probably the worst I've seen in a complex program. It's probably good for the soul to find kindly support here, and even better if you're actually able to provide it, but I'm sure the traffic on this list could be drastically reduced if The Bat! had even a half-decent Help file. I wonder if there's any hope of an improvement in the forthcoming version? -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: strange return - blaster worm
Hello Jane! On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 2:15 PM, you wrote: Received a strange 'return' just now and would appreciate your collective experience in understanding it. J ... Sobig.f. J details.pif is just one of many variants of the J virus payload being sent around by these emails. ACK. This behavior has been discussed at length on Rootsweb's Virus-Discussion List. Here's one easy-to-read website URL regarding this: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/sobig_f.shtml -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, Allie Martin wrote: KK Right. My problem was that I redid the filters twice, and didn't KK know what file to delete. Deleting the account.srx file seems to KK have done the trick so far. Did you manually recreate the filters from scratch. Yes. For the future, you could look at copying the filters to text file by just selecting each filter, hitting CTRL-C and pasting them in your favourite editor. When finished, delete the srx file, restart TB!, open the sorting offices and then paste the text files contents into the inbox filter set. Thanks. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sticky splash screen
Hello Hugh, Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:36:34 PM, you wrote: HTH Add /NOLOGO to the command line that HTH loads The Bat! For example: HTH C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /NOLOGO HTH This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2. That worked for me too, but not anymore. I am now using beta 2.0. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! vs 2.0 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sticky splash screen
Hello Hugh, Saturday, August 23, 2003, 8:36:34 PM, you wrote: HTH This works for v1 and, I assume, for v2. Yes, it does. I first thought it didn't, but that was because I had attached the short cut to the Menu Start (using Win XP). With a fresh short cut the 'nologo' it works. However, now that I know the rather nice screen can be clicked away quickly, I'll leave in place. Thank you all for your help. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! vs 2.0 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
