we need real *powerful* threading
as the email client program that helps me process hundreds of email everyday, i believe there is nothing more important than a really sophisticated threading machanism. this machanism is expected to help me find related conversations of an email quickly and accurately. thebat's current threading is a good start, but has a long way to go. the main concern is the subject matching algorithm. it seems that thebat can match subjects processed by another thebat very well, but if the other guy uses a different email program and the subject prefix is slightly different (FWD vs. FW, or re/fwd in a different language), or re and fwd are cascaded a couple of times, thebat starts to get confused and sort them as different conversations. in worst case, some email program truncates subjects and thebat has no way to tell these replies correctly. i think thebat needs a better subject matching algorithm, maybe a fuzzy one, for exmple, evaluate every subject and give it a score or something like that, and sort threads based on these scores. as soon as the threading machanism is carefully redesigned and reimplemented, i believe thebat will really become the most attractive email program. today there is *no one* email program that can process conversation well. i hope thebat can be the first. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:18:29 -0700, Samson wrote: i think thebat needs a better subject matching algorithm Why do you use threading by subject, and not by references? Threading by references in TB is close-to perfect (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). The threading can only be improved by automatically falling back to a combined threading by subject and creation date in case the sender uses a mail application that breaks the threading by reference. Certain webmailers like hotmail, or M$ Outlook when sending thru Exchange do that. They remove the References and In-Reply-To Header. -- Greetings, Alexander Kunz Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hello Alexander, Threading by references in TB is close-to perfect (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). Take a look at www.rancho-k.com :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing IMAP messages
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:04:19 -0500, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brave you are. :) Thanks; I *knew* I was going to do some good one day... TB!'s IMAP behaviour is quite unpredicable. I figured so :-\ Your friend may have a good time and thank for it. It's just as likely that he could have problems. Problems that we can't really help. Actually, he's our CTO - which makes things a *little* more complicated :) ... Thanks for the useful tips anyway, I think this might at least help a bit. And yes, I wasn't smart enough to look in the main Folder menu myself :-\ Browse Deleted is there, and worked as expected when I tested it briefly. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Plan9, Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 10:49:01 PM, you wrote: P As an additional note I have tried the following formats: PMemo PBusiness card PTelephone list PAddress list P and they are nice as far as they go, but stop a little short of P providing the flexibility that I would like. For example none permit P adding birthdays as far as I can tell and none provide any filtering, P although you can pick and choose entries from the address list (with P CNTRL-LEFTCLICK) to be included in the printed output. now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice. -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
Hello Peter, Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 9:26:05 PM, you wrote: PB Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the PB notes that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an PB entry in the address book? I ask because I use it as a contact PB manager, and being in pastoral ministry I can use it for keeping PB records of home visits, particular issues concerning an individual PB or family, and so on. At present I use separate text files and link PB to them from one of the web address fields in the address book, but PB I would like to put it all together, so to speak. How robust is the PB address book data in other's experience of this fantastic program? PB Thanks for any thoughts. what about smartbat? You could use it to schedule those visits, and use the log entries for the data.. it also has a quick search feature. F6 activates smartbat, it only took me 5 minutes to find the menu! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
Hello Peter, Just a quick question. Is there a limit on the length of the notes that can be put in the Memo field of the Other tab of an entry in the address book? I ask because I use it as a contact manager, and being in pastoral ministry... To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact manager, it is just an e-mail client. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
==Original message text=== From: Samson public-samsonsu-/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004, 11:18:29 AM Subject: we need real *powerful* threading S as the email client program that helps me process hundreds of email S everyday, i believe there is nothing more important than a really S sophisticated threading machanism. this machanism is expected to help S me find related conversations of an email quickly and accurately. S thebat's current threading is a good start, but has a long way to go. S the main concern is the subject matching algorithm. it seems that S thebat can match subjects processed by another thebat very well, but S if the other guy uses a different email program and the subject prefix S is slightly different (FWD vs. FW, or re/fwd in a different language), S or re and fwd are cascaded a couple of times, thebat starts to get S confused and sort them as different conversations. in worst case, some S email program truncates subjects and thebat has no way to tell these S replies correctly. S i think thebat needs a better subject matching algorithm, maybe a S fuzzy one, for exmple, evaluate every subject and give it a score or S something like that, and sort threads based on these scores. S as soon as the threading machanism is carefully redesigned and S reimplemented, i believe thebat will really become the most attractive S email program. today there is *no one* email program that can process S conversation well. i hope thebat can be the first. ===End of original message text=== I'm not sure but I think I've read an article on threading in the past. It said that the norm for threading is that thread has to be encoded in a special key in the header of the mail and the soft has to read this header... A real threading can't be based on subject string... And TB was reward after Pocomail because of this problem... It's not my opinion, it is what I've read and my memory can distort the meaning... I try to find this article asap. -- WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB 2.12.00 Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:13:30 +0200, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Threading by references in TB is close-to perfect (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). Take a look at www.rancho-k.com :) I beg your pardon, but this is way too complicated for me, thats why I wrote built-in function... :-) (I am fully aware that your solutions already has existed for quite a while now). Thanks anyway! -- Greetings, Alexander Kunz Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hello Alexander, I beg your pardon, but this is way too complicated for me, thats why I wrote built-in function... :-) (I am fully aware that your solutions already has existed for quite a while now). I also wish/want/need the built-in function. My solution is just a hopefully temporary work around. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hello Samson, snipped a bit i think thebat needs a better subject matching algorithm, maybe a fuzzy one, for exmple, evaluate every subject and give it a score or something like that, and sort threads based on these scores. as soon as the threading machanism is carefully redesigned and reimplemented, i believe thebat will really become the most attractive email program. today there is *no one* email program that can process conversation well. i hope thebat can be the first. Although I agree that subject matching can and should be improved in TB, threading by subject can never achieve actual threading as can be accomplished with Threading by Reference using the In-Reply-To and/or References header lines. The obnly problem with Threading by Reference, as Alexander has pointed out, is that some e-mail clients (or servers) do break the threading headers. Threading by subject should actually be called Grouping by Subject. Anyway, a workaround I use when I want to see a thread (group) by subject is to create a VF. That way I can see and follow the thread (group) even if messages are in different folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macros: Complete list with descriptions of all macros in TB v2?
Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:13:10 -0400 (2:13 PM EDT here) Paul Cartwright wrote: Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 1:35:10 AM, you wrote: JH is there a list somewhere that gives all the macros that JH actually exist in TB!? I bet there got some macros introduced JH that I am not aware of.. TheBat! - Help - Help Topics - Index [Macros] -- Display choose Full alphabetic list of macros -- Display Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.5, MyMacros 1.11 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup problems
Raymund Thomas Tump @ 2004-Aug-18 3:18:19 PM Backup problems mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I decided to reinstall my computer... Therefore I want to make a backup. That should be an easy task if only TB would do it. Everytime I try it I get an error message that something is not ok. What is the error? Or did it actually say Something is not OK...? (Maybe my mail database is too large. Right now it has 670 MB on HD.) You will need at least that much free space on the drive on which you are storing your backup. You also need some more free space for temporary files during the process. There are two bars that monitor free space during the backup process. Watch those. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 When in doubt, use brute force. pgpEtctmtWY1z.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Alexander S. Kunz @ 2004-Aug-19 5:36:52 AM we need real *powerful* threading mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). Please add your support to the feature request at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001440 Similar Requests (that have NOT been reviewed yet): https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001226 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=602 Also, the Ignore Thread feature is missing. Please see this feature request and add your support: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001542 -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 On a fence: Salesman Welcome. Dog food is expensive. pgpSjXabdJgi2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
MAU @ 2004-Aug-19 7:00:35 AM Address book notes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact manager, it is just an e-mail client. However, it needs better integration with PIMs. Longhorn should make this easier by providing a unified API for PIM data access and extension. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Multitasking: Screwing up several things at once... pgpuSkODFDdXy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
Hello Chris, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 7:48:40 AM, you wrote: C MAU @ 2004-Aug-19 7:00:35 AM C Address book notes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact manager, it is just an e-mail client. C However, it needs better integration with PIMs. Longhorn should make C this easier by providing a unified API for PIM data access and C extension. You get my vote! Synchronizing TB's address list to anything else would be helpful, but consistently ignored by TB developers. If TB is not a contact manager, what then is the system for making the two talk? -- Best regards, Steve Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies. - Groucho Marx TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hi Alexander S. Kunz - On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, at 11:36:52 [GMT +0200] (which was 2:36 AM where I live) you wrote: Threading by references in TB is close-to perfect (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). Exactly, IMO. Provision for connecting orphan threads would be extremely beneficial. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpEOSedQT18e.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hi MAU - On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, at 12:13:30 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:13 AM where I live) you wrote: Hello Alexander, Take a look at www.rancho-k.com :) This does not work if one is using IMAP and it is a kludge at best, IMO. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpWSRE5A49pq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 6:20:38 AM, Paul wrote: Paul now you are starting to get into PIM territory. You can't add a Paul birthday/anniversary/divorce date to memo ?? I add all my notes about Paul people to the Memo field.. BUT I agree, reports would be nice. Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out. On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a Birthday column to see it. -- Regards, Plan9 It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Reply to message sent 8/19/2004, @ 11:52:05 (10:52 AM Locally) ~~~ Hello Plan9, Without some way to easily use and share all of the information stored in the Address Book it becomes a black hole database, everything goes in and nothing (well, very little) comes out. I use TB!'s macros in conjunction with PowerPro to get a useful (enough for me anyway) faux PIM. I can open the address book, pick a name, hit a hotkey and a new message opens up with all the pertinent (at least what I consider pertinent) address book information about that person in it. Works fairly nicely. -- ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: 2.12.1] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: messages marked as junk to separate folder
Hi Stuart, already marked as read. Junk mail that is sent to the folder by baysit can be left as unread, so you only have to quickly check your unread junk mail to check if baysit has mis-classified Great idea. Thanks. -- Chris Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup problems
Hello Raymund, On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:18:19 +0200 GMT (19/08/2004, 02:18 +0700 GMT), Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: RTT Is there another way to backup and restore then using the Tools menu RTT item or another way to trick TB to backup my accounts? (Maybe my mail RTT database is too large. Right now it has 670 MB on HD.) There is indeed another trick. I export the registry key (HKCU / Software / RIT) and then zip the whole TB directory. It hasn't failed me, but it requires to restore into the same directory, using the same Windows version. -- Cheers, Thomas. This afternoon there will be a meeting in the south and north ends of the church. Children will be baptized at both ends. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hi Plan9, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 11:52:05 AM, you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book P window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is P off by a day on my system. Anyone else notice this? Confirmed here. In my case it is a day early which I guess is better than being a day late. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hallo Plan9, On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Here it's the correct date that's shown. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Roelof, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 7:00:55 PM, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Here it's the correct date that's shown. here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g -- Best regards, Jürgen :eu-flag3: :de-bw: She was only a telegrapher's daughter, but she did-it-ah-did-it! Using The Bat! v2.12.03, Opera v7.54.3865 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgp41LZpoBdJ2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hi Plan9, On Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 11:52:05 AM you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Could that be a feature? Is it the day before? If so, that would make sense. Give you a warning? -- Regards, Maggie Queen Victoria was the longest queen. She sat on a thorn for 63 years. She was a moral woman who practiced virtue. Her death was the final event which ended her reign. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP Message Priority Not Showing.
Hi Chris, On Tuesday, August 17, 2004 18:16 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; CW I use Thunderbird at work for my IMAP and noticed that the priority CW doesn't show there either!? Ok, correction. I can see the priority showing in Thunderbird, I just didn't previously have the column showing that displayed this. Therefore, it's TB's IMAP that require tweaking. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:23:31 PM, Jurgen wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Here it's the correct date that's shown. Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g Nice try. :-D But it's definitely off by a day. Could it have something to location; GMT + or -? -- Regards, Plan9 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Plan9! On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:07 PM, you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book P window is off by a ... day on my system. ... Here it's the correct date that's shown. Jurgen here, too! Maybe their's correct too, and the people are off a day g P Nice try. :-D But it's definitely off by a day. Could it have P something to location; GMT + or -? Mine is a day early. Could it be that the calendar failed to recognize leap year? No, then the Europeans' would, also. Hmm. GMT seems like the best guess. And while we're at it, I've once more forgotten how to set these birthdays. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book notes
Hello Chris, To the Cesar what is of the Cesar... :) TB is NOT a contact manager, it is just an e-mail client. However, it needs better integration with PIMs. I can agree to that :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hello Kevin, Take a look at www.rancho-k.com :) This does not work if one is using IMAP and it is a kludge at best, IMO. Sorry, I don't use IMAP. And it is a workaround until Ritlabs decides to integrate the functionality in TB. Better a kludge than nothing :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:00:55 PM, Roelof wrote: Roelof Hallo Plan9, Roelof On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:52:05 -0400GMT (19-8-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a P Birthday column to see it. Roelof Here it's the correct date that's shown. Just to make sure everyone is looking at the same thing I've put two jpg images on my website. The properties screen where the birthday is entered. http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg The Address Book screen that list all of the addresses. http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/add_book.jpg -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Plan9! On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:23 PM, you wrote: P Just to make sure everyone is looking at the same thing I've put two P jpg images on my website. That's what I'm looking at. (The first one, http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg is typical--the personal information in properties.) On all my entries--and I'm positive I put them in correctly--the date is shifted one day earlier than the actual birthday. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Plan9, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 2:23:46 PM, you wrote: P The properties screen where the birthday is entered. P http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/properties.jpg got it, you don't see the date fields UNTIL you check the BOX for birthdays. P The Address Book screen that list all of the addresses. P http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/e/benzab/add_book.jpg ahhh, again, you have to go to the VIEW menu and add the birthday field. weird, I added a date for my daughter, then I noticed I had 2 email addresses for her, and the other one already HAD her birthday, and the year shown was 1978! trying to scroll back 25 years isn't fun, but I did finally figure out you can set the day month, then HIGHLIGHT the year and change it:) -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
Hi MAU - On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, at 20:21:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:21 AM where I live) you wrote: Hello Kevin, Sorry, I don't use IMAP. And it is a workaround until Ritlabs decides to integrate the functionality in TB. Better a kludge than nothing :) Don't be sorry and I understand that it might be better than nothing. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpRNSxjB4ztb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Thursday, August 19, 2004, 1:27:35 PM, Maggie wrote: P On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window P (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a P day on my system. Maggie Could that be a feature? Is it the day before? If so, that would Maggie make sense. Give you a warning? I don't think so or Roelof and Jurgen would also be seeing a day early birthday listing. Seems like an East/West side of the Pond/GMT phenomenon. People on this side see the discrepancy (I think Perry is here too), people on the other side do not. -- Regards, Plan9 I honestly think it is better to be a failure at something you love than to be a success at something you hate. - George Burns Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing Messages
Is there any way to print just the body of a message? Thanks. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing Messages
Hello Pete, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 2:08:07 PM, you wrote: PH Is there any way to print just the body of a message? PH Thanks. You can print the body, by highlighting what you want to print in the message and then selecting Print - Selection. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hi Plan9, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 2:55:00 PM, you wrote: P People on this side see the discrepancy (I think Perry is here too), P people on the other side do not. Yes, I am in Eastern Time Zone. Knoxville, TN, to be exact. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hello Perry! On Thursday, August 19, 2004, 3:01 PM, you wrote: P People on this side see the discrepancy (I think Perry is here too), P people on the other side do not. PN Yes, I am in Eastern Time Zone. Knoxville, TN, to be exact. So, if it depends which side of Greenwich we're on (I'm in Nashville), how can we make The Bat! put in the correct birthday? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Address Book - How to get customized reports?
Hi Mary, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 4:15:18 PM, you wrote: MB So, if it depends which side of Greenwich we're on (I'm in MB Nashville), how can we make The Bat! put in the correct birthday? Obviously a work around would be to make the date one day beyond the correct date, but that is unsatisfactory in my opinion. Beyond that, I'll simply wait to hear what is suggested by either the programmers or by someone who knows better than I how it might be resolved. In the mean time, I usually compose my birthday greeting and save it to the outbox. Then I open it the next day and send it. It gives me a whole day to compose the message I want to send, but I run the risk of forgetting to send it the next day of course. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: we need real *powerful* threading
On Thu 19 August 2004, 19:36:52 +1000, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Threading by references in TB is close-to perfect (the only things I am still missing are built-in function to manually add messages to a thread and manually break a thread). I have a very effective pair of filters that make or break threads, but they rely on the UltraEdit editor and its macro capability. To add messages to the thread I simply copy the message id of the parent message from the message previews header section, highlight the message I want to add to the thread and press my hotkey combination. The modified child message then appears in my inbox. If anyone uses this editor and wants more detail, I am happy to provide it. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book - How to get customized reports?
On Fri 20 August 2004, 1:52:05 +1000, Plan9 wrote: On another note, the birthday reported on the main Address Book window (the one you get when you click on the Address Book icon) is off by a day on my system. Anyone else notice this? You may have to add a Birthday column to see it. Do you mean that what you see in the main window list of all address book entries doesn't match what you see when you open a specific entry? If so, this problem doesn't occur on my system. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing Messages
Hello Pete, Is there any way to print just the body of a message? Yes, if you change the Print Template. On the top menu select Messages and then Print Setup. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing Messages
Hello Stuart, You can print the body, by highlighting what you want to print in the message and then selecting Print - Selection. Where's that option? I can't seem to find it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Printing Messages
Hello MAU, Thursday, August 19, 2004, 6:24:54 PM, you wrote: You can print the body, by highlighting what you want to print in the message and then selecting Print - Selection. M Where's that option? I can't seem to find it. Under Message - Print - Print Range - Selection -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 On Windows 98 4.10 Build # Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing Messages
Hello Stuart, M Where's that option? I can't seem to find it. Under Message - Print - Print Range - Selection Guess I'm going blind ;-) Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/6 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup problems
Hi Chris! What is the error? Or did it actually say Something is not OK...? Yes. More or less, it points me to delete the index file of one folder. There are two bars that monitor free space during the backup process. Watch those. That is not the problem 40 GB free on the hard drive. Interesting fact: I tried to backup again and left out the IMAP account. Worked. I tried to backup the IMAP account. Worked, too. I will try again to backup all :-) -- Regards, Raymund Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
