Re: Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home)
Tuesday, June 7, 2005, 5:48:49 AM, Christian wrote: CF I do not manage to run The Bat! as User A (Shortcut on Windows CF Desctop exists). Every attempt ends up with this report: CF Error during setup of working directory CF C:\Documents...\Application data\All users\The Bat! Have you copied across the registry entries? Have a search through the archives as it has certainly been covered before. If you have already done that, then I don't know what the problem would be except that user accounts in XP can't do a lot of things you might expect they could. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wanadoo problems (again!)
Hello Richard, A reminder of what Richard Wakeford on TBUDL typed on: 06 June 2005 at 21:46:24 GMT +0200 Hmm. Wonder if there's a slight incompatibility between NTL and Wanadoo then? Try sending to me if you like, see if it works. tony.boom at ntlworld.com -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP Home SP2. Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpc4cXn7LoLA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roelof, Roelof Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your Roelof message and following it with all quoted text below, is not Roelof encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list Roelof because Sorry don't understand, that's what you did ? Cheers Tim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBQqVmdUNI70/QYQB7EQLs7QCgmYPD2jRp33ekcbNIZe0k5g3FCN8An3mh 18RRp7ltTIEA8dAA6r3xgJqf =zg3N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, I did answer YES. The TBB files (unencrypted) are in c:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\the bat!\username\inbox\messages.tbb and various dirs below.. I read through the message.tbb with say Notepad.. I backed up my old The Bat!, uninstalled. Deleted the above dir AND c:\programme files\the bat! (after also saying delete the dirs in the uninstall) Then installed the new version thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi and then (during the install) restored my backup. Low and behold after restoring my backup all the files in c:\documents and settings\etc were in .tbb plain text format Cheers Tim - -- Monday, June 6, 2005, 8:07:38 PM, you wrote: Tony Hello Tim, Tony A reminder of what Tim Bicknelle on TBUDL typed on: Tony 06 June 2005 at 18:54:54 GMT +0100 Then installed the new version thebat_pro_3-5-25.msi and then (during the install) restored my backup. Tony When you reinstalled did you answer yes to OTFE? Don't think you even had Tony that option as you need to delete the RIT registry entries as well, not Tony just delete the folder. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBQqVnTENI70/QYQB7EQIymQCfQKiHEKJ4mPKH0JumF1QSeAS8bE4AnA1Z Y1OgHoQFyq5cCN1cKiE4uaF+ =3B1Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roelof We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to Roelof which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, Roelof and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're Roelof responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each Roelof part separately and follow each part with your response. Ahhh, sorry now I have read the email - Oops, is this better ? Roelof Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that Roelof you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much Roelof respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active hey no problemo. Great system this BTW Can I use PGP in TBUDL ? Cheers Tim (Using TBB 3.5.25 in Plain Unencrypted Text mode as the OTFE doesn't work) :))) Am I also supposed to put some -- in ? - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBQqVn/ENI70/QYQB7EQLY9wCg1kPxp1thZN4Ges1V19LrHmL4OxIAnA13 amOchPC8zqi5VoAGeDo/rUnP =qc8w -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tim! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 4:25 AM, you wrote: (Using TBB 3.5.25 in Plain Unencrypted Text mode as the OTFE doesn't work) I am doing a copy-and-paste of something I sent earlier to this thread. Please notice the advice about changing the value 0 to the value 1 in the registry key. This might apply here, as it was necessary when we were testing this just before the release of version 3.5. It's in the last paragraph of the quote from a post on the mailing list TBBETA (The Bat! Beta): This from a post on TBBETA is probably relevant: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Martin Sebald, May 19, 2005, with Subject line, Re: No On-The-Fly Pwd installation ? Begin Copy-and-Paste== after I also migrated to encryption I wanted to make sure that everybody knows that without the registry settings from before encryption (you are starting with a clean registry because of the whole uninstall/install process) there is much you have to setup again by hand. I solved this by saving HKCU\Software\RIT and completly importing it after the migration. I just shutdown TB right after restoring accounts/mails/addressbooks etc and imported the registry key. Very important is that you change one key after importing the original registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\EncryptedLayerMode This key is set to 0 when no encryption is active and has to be set to 1 when encryption is active. So be sure you change that by hand before starting TB the first time after importing you old settings. ==End Copy-and-Paste These were instructions posted to help people who had originally installed the Professional Edition of The Bat! but said No to On-the-Fly-Encryption when it was offered during the installation. If they wished to change that decision, they could not simply install a later edition of TB! Professional-OTFE. The option would not be offered. Instead, a clean install plus removal of the registry key, and then a subsequent following of the above instructions is necessary. I am running the Professional Edition, but I chose not to have On-The-Fly-Encryption, and so far still do not want it. But I saved the above instructions in my Troubleshooting Folder, in case I ever do. (BTW, Martin Sebald was running 3.5 when he posted the advice that I've quoted above. And many thanks to him, if he sees this post of mine. ) -- I wrote this in reply to the message in which Roelof Otten told you which entry in the Registry contained your Registration Key. Sorry if you missed seeing it. I probably should have sent the information in Reply to one of your posts to TBUDL, Tim, as I am now doing here. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.25 Professional Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Mary I am doing a copy-and-paste of something I sent earlier to this Mary thread. Please notice the advice about changing the value 0 to the Mary value 1 in the registry key. This might apply here, as it was Thanks. Mary I am running the Professional Edition, but I chose not to have Mary On-The-Fly-Encryption, and so far still do not want it. Ahh OK. So far no luck with mine even messing with reg keys and the like. I like the idea of having the message base encrypted especially for Laptops and the like - suitable also password secured.. Mary I wrote this in reply to the message in which Roelof Otten told you Mary which entry in the Registry contained your Registration Key. Thanks Cheers Tim -- pgpxW130XSMgT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tim! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 8:08 AM, you wrote: So far no luck with mine even messing with reg keys and the like. I like the idea of having the message base encrypted especially for Laptops and the like - suitable also password secured.. Mary I wrote this in reply to the message in which Roelof Otten told you Mary which entry in the Registry contained your Registration Key. Thanks So, my next suggestion: Join the TBBETA list. Just today beta version v. 3.5.26 is offered, in which offer the developers specifically say that the OTFE installation bug is fixed (therefore you would not, as I understand it, need the work-around I sent you). Go here to read about subscribing to TBBETA: -- http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ -- But first go to the Silverstones TBUDL info page (the first link) and read about it. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home)
Christian Fritz @ 2005-Jun-6 1:48:49 PM Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not manage to run The Bat! as User A (Shortcut on Windows Desctop exists). Every attempt ends up with this report: Error during setup of working directory C:\Documents...\Application data\All users\The Bat! Try changing the user's mail directory so that it is a sub-directory of that user's My Documents folder. I know that you can run The Bat! as a limited user; I'm doing it right now. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Almost exactly pgpz2j71BCbY7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home)
Hallo Christian, On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:48:49 +0200GMT (6-6-2005, 19:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CF What is wrong / how can I give User A the appropriate rights to work CF with The Bat! (access to all mailaccounts should be possible)? That's a Windows issue. So you've got to tell it that all users have rights to read/write in your mail directory. -- Groetjes, Roelof To err is human. Obviously, humans have bugs in the source code. - SLR The Bat! 3.5.26 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpIVNS2rKUdS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home)
Roelof Otten @ 2005-Jun-7 9:42:58 AM Access to The Bat! (User account with limited rights, Windows XP Home) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's a Windows issue. So you've got to tell it that all users have rights to read/write in your mail directory. Or you could give each user's his or her own mail directory. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Sign on a repair shop door: WE CAN REPAIR ANYTHING. (PLEASE KNOCK HARD ON THE DOOR -- THE BELL DOESN'T WORK) pgpAGK7vWMCpi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! My Address book has disappeared! (after upgrading to vs 3.5)
Jack Morrison @ 2005-Jun-5 7:31:37 PM Help! My Address book has disappeared! (after upgrading to vs 3.5) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going out now and have a few cold ones, in celebration of the Return of My Address Book. How about you backup at the same time? Heh. Yep, not only have I backed-up, I sent copies of it to all my relatives and friends for safekeeping. :) PS: Please excuse the format of the e-mail. I'm traveling and had to use web access instead of The Bat!. Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25
Hello Tim, A reminder of what Tim Bicknelle on TBUDL typed on: 07 June 2005 at 10:22:20 GMT +0100 Hi Tony, Because no body know what the hell your talking about that's why and throws the whole thing out of context. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.26 Windows XP Home SP2. Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Why isn't top posting allowed on this list? pgpWJq9uYQDl1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tim! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 8:08 AM, you wrote: Mary I am running the Professional Edition, but I chose not to have Mary On-The-Fly-Encryption ... Ahh OK. So far no luck with mine even messing with reg keys and the like. So, I've just downloaded the fixed version, beta 3.5.26. I asked the developer who announced that 3.5.26 is available to beta testers, whether 3.5.26 will solve your problem. Here's what he said (cp): == Mary My question: If he joins the beta testers and gets 3.5.26 professional Mary msi, installing directly over his 3.5.25, ought that to solve his Mary problem? Maxim The newbie have to uninstall completely 3.5.25 (including registry) Maxim and then install 3.5.26. end cp=== This was in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA, subject line Re[2]: 3.5.26 MSI. So, go to the Silverstones address that you see below my signature, join TBBETA, and then register as a beta tester. (One needs a password to get these betas, I think, so you will, I think, have to sign up as a beta tester.) I think you will, at present, need beta v. 3.5.26 in order to enable OTFE. Sad to have to give you this news, but that's the way it is right now. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.26 Professional on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No color group display on first message if thread collapsed?
Hello tbudl, Just noticed: when the first message of a thread is colored and the thread is collapsed and there are still unread messages below the coloring gets lost. I thought to use this as a workaround for the missing watch this thread functionality. Or is this an intended behavior? -- Martin TB! 3.5.23 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No color group display on first message if thread collapsed?
Hallo Martin, On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:46 +0200GMT (7-6-2005, 17:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Just noticed: when the first message of a thread is colored and the M thread is collapsed and there are still unread messages below the M coloring gets lost. Not over here. When you defined the color group, did you enter settings for 'unread'? -- Groetjes, Roelof Nobody notices when things go right, and I'm noticed. The Bat! 3.5.26 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgppTu7fliJkf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Mary So, my next suggestion: Join the TBBETA list. Just today beta version Mary v. 3.5.26 is offered, in which offer the developers specifically say Mary that the OTFE installation bug is fixed (therefore you would not, as I Mary understand it, need the work-around I sent you). I just got an email from Maxim Masiutin about that very issue. Downloading now No need for the Beta. 3.5.26 fixed it, got an email from Maxim Masiutin today :) http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=1483#postform Thanks for the help. Cheers Tim -- pgpQd7kPyMWha.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tim! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 3:16 PM, you wrote: I just got an email from Maxim Masiutin about that very issue. Downloading now No need for the Beta. 3.5.26 fixed it, got an email from Maxim Masiutin today :) http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=1483#postform Thanks for the help. Oh, good! So glad that Maxim wrote to you. All of us here on TBUDL were glad to try to give what help we could. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Mary, Mary Oh, good! So glad that Maxim wrote to you. All of us here on TBUDL Mary were glad to try to give what help we could. :) And what a good team you are to. I might have to give the Beta forum a go to maybe input, as I find things ? Cheers Tim -- pgpBMGiU5QbFv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
--On Tuesday, June 07, 2005 15:21:39 -0500 Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, good! Mary, not only do you hijack subjects, now you managed to hijack someone's Trout. :) -- Tony. LM Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Master Password
Hi All, Well 3.5.26 fixed the OTFE issue. Amazing how quick they fixed it too. Nice one TB programmers ! When I install 3.5.26 it asks for a master password and an OTFE password - which I presume is used to encrypt the database. When I then close and re-open TB it asks for the master password, which when entered let's me into TB. Out of interest any idea where I change this new master PW as the old CTRL+F12 doesn't do it. Also previously when I closed my default Account (tree) by clicking on it, no email would be sent and received and when I open the default account (tree) I was asked for the password. This was useful if I was say going out and picking up email from my PDA or Web Mail, but didn't necessarily want to close TB. Is he never happy they all shout ;) Cheers, Tim --- pgpVoV30ML3Vo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tony! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 3:35 PM, you wrote: Oh, good! Mary, not only do you hijack subjects, now you managed to hijack someone's Trout. :) :rofl2: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25
Tony Because no body know what the hell your talking about that's why and throws Tony the whole thing out of context. Well that's a bit strong. I only asked. Whatever. Tim pgp8XSSyybX22.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25)
Hello Tim! On Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 3:28 PM, you wrote: Mary Oh, good! So glad that Maxim wrote to you. All of us here on Mary TBUDL were glad to try to give what help we could. :) And what a good team you are to. I might have to give the Beta forum a go to maybe input, as I find things ? Good idea. You'll be very welcome there, as you are here. :) Just about the same rules apply there, including those re top posting. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No color group display on first message if thread collapsed?
Hello Roelof, M Just noticed: when the first message of a thread is colored and the M thread is collapsed and there are still unread messages below the M coloring gets lost. Not over here. When you defined the color group, did you enter settings for 'unread'? Confirmed: I was just too blind to see there is a second setting for unread °!° ...thanks Roelof -- Martin TB! 3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving the Bat! data files to another computer
Hi All, Arghh! This is a stupid question since I have done it before (although with a earlier version). I'm using The Bat! v3.0.1 and need to move it to a new computer. I have the registration key but need to know which files to transfer over so that The Bat! recognizes all my previous folders, filters etc. I have my system set up so that TB! goes into D:\program files, but I would like to have all the data files go into E:\TheBatFiles. Years ago, when I moved to my last new machine I managed to pull it off, this time I can't get TB! to automatically recognize the transferred settings. What am I missing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving the Bat! data files to another computer
Nick OHare @ 2005-Jun-7 7:19:04 PM Moving the Bat! data files to another computer mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! v3.0.1 and need to move it to a new computer. I have the registration key but need to know which files to transfer over so that The Bat! recognizes all my previous folders, filters etc. A backup and restore usually works fine. If that doesn't work, transfer your whole mail directory to the new computer. Also, export The Bat's registry key (HKCU\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!). If you want, you can modify the Working Directory value to reflect your data's new location. Import this key on the new computer. If you did not modify the registry key, the next time you start The Bat!, change the location of your data directory. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. At a tire shop in Milwaukee: Invite us to your next blowout. pgpLsQ83kt99S.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
