Re[2]: requires installation CD of Office 2003
Hello Roelof, My first post, identical to this never appeared, so I had resent this again. Thanks for responding point-wise. My advices are as under: Friday, September 28, 2007, 5:43:20 AM, you wrote: > Hallo pkr, > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:07:30 +0530GMT (28-9-2007, 1:37 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: PB>> First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager PB>> to for installation CD of Office 2003. Even after supplying the PB>> same, it goes into a loop. > That's odd. It's happening with Voyager, you say? Is it happening on > multiple computers or just on one system? It is happening on multiple computers. PB>> The error message is enclosed (bat_error.png). > You can't post attachments here, better upload it to website place the > link in your message, or select the error message and press Ctrl-C > when it happens, so you can paste it in a message. OK, as it is not material now, not posting now, will keep it in mind. PB>> If this particular message is somehow deleted it goes into PB>> Trash Folder, does not create any problem. If attempt is made to PB>> delete it from trash, the same problem is encountered. > What happens when you delete it from Trash by emptying the Trash > folder instead of opening the message? The moment the message is selected, even if the cursor placed on this message, it spins into the loop of asking for instal CD. Yes, emptying the Trash has deleted this mail. PB>> Otherwise no issues. The message which has this problem is often PB>> with attachment or even without attachment. > Do those messages have anything in common? The account they're > directed to, do the senders belong to the same address book group, are > they written with the same mail client? Like it happened today, it was a bounced mail "mailer daemon" with an attachment tag, email client used could not be checked so far. Will report it next time this occurs. PB>> Apparently from the error message it looks like a memory related PB>> problem. But it is happening very rarely, prompting me to think PB>> that its really not a memory problem. > When it happens, would you be busy with Office 2003 or a special part > of it? No. PB>> Can somebody please throw some light ? > Now that I think of it, did you install Outlook as a part of Office > 2003? Is some document type associated with Outlook? Yes, Outlook was installed but never used. For some mobile phone application (mobiledit, in particular), to have a backup , the outlook was configured. however it was never used. Next time will keep all these things in mind to note down and report. -- Best regards, pkr.batmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Reply for new thread (was: requires installation CD of Office 2003)
Hallo pkr, On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:07:30 +0530GMT (28-9-2007, 1:37, where I live), you wrote: PB> First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out pkr. )<)))'> Please don't use reply to start a new thread. Your question has been posted at the bottom of an unrelated topic. The Bat! is a threading mail client. See "View | View threads by | Reference" to see where it ended up. The result is that it will only be seen by those reading that thread instead of by all users. I recommend that you post your question again using a "New message" if you want to see more replies to your query. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Have you kicked your moderator today? pgpONLTnO3HGm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: requires installation CD of Office 2003
Hallo pkr, On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:07:30 +0530GMT (28-9-2007, 1:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PB> First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager PB> to for installation CD of Office 2003. Even after supplying the PB> same, it goes into a loop. That's odd. It's happening with Voyager, you say? Is it happening on multiple computers or just on one system? PB> The error message is enclosed (bat_error.png). You can't post attachments here, better upload it to website place the link in your message, or select the error message and press Ctrl-C when it happens, so you can paste it in a message. PB> If this particular message is somehow deleted it goes into PB> Trash Folder, does not create any problem. If attempt is made to PB> delete it from trash, the same problem is encountered. What happens when you delete it from Trash by emptying the Trash folder instead of opening the message? PB> Otherwise no issues. The message which has this problem is often PB> with attachment or even without attachment. Do those messages have anything in common? The account they're directed to, do the senders belong to the same address book group, are they written with the same mail client? PB> Apparently from the error message it looks like a memory related PB> problem. But it is happening very rarely, prompting me to think PB> that its really not a memory problem. When it happens, would you be busy with Office 2003 or a special part of it? PB> Can somebody please throw some light ? Now that I think of it, did you install Outlook as a part of Office 2003? Is some document type associated with Outlook? -- Groetjes, Roelof When you're a little rabbit, carry a big gun. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQQi26MeQlO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
requires installation CD of Office 2003
Hello , First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager to for installation CD of Office 2003. Even after supplying the same, it goes into a loop. The error message is enclosed (bat_error.png). If this particular message is somehow deleted it goes into Trash Folder, does not create any problem. If attempt is made to delete it from trash, the same problem is encountered. Otherwise no issues. The message which has this problem is often with attachment or even without attachment. Apparently from the error message it looks like a memory related problem. But it is happening very rarely, prompting me to think that its really not a memory problem. Can somebody please throw some light ? -- Best regards, pkr.batmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voyager 3.99.4/ CEEDO ON 120 gb HDD Sempron 2500/RAM 512 mb/ Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Local Host issue)
Hallo pkr, On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:24:41 +0530GMT (27-9-2007, 18:54, where I live), you wrote: PB> Hello MAU, PB> good suggestion.. PB> Thursday, September 27, 2007, 6:05:38 PM, you wrote: >> Hello lonewolf, Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out pkr. )<)))'> This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof At least the moderator replies to my messages. pgppXlYTgTee9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: corrupted emails
Hallo Simon, On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:57:30 +0100GMT (27-9-2007, 17:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> TB handles better with 100 folders with 1000 messages each than with one RO>> folder with 10 messages. IT> Is this a documented limitation of TB!? Or is it purely a limitation IT> discovered at the expense of TB! users? It's a matter of physics and it depends on the available RAM in your system. Every folder has its own directory and message base, that's documented in the help file. Therefore you can understand that a large folder takes more resources to be read (and will corrupt easier too.) It's documented in the help file that you should purge and compress regularly (especially large folders.) My folders vary in size, the largest contains 23000 messages, the smallest four, that's messages of course and in bytes that's different. In bytes my messages.ebb files (I'm using OTFE) vary between 4 kB (empty) and 265 MB (513 messages, 181 with attachments), the 23000 messages directory only 65 MB (hardly any attachments) On my previous PC TB acted rather sluggish with this one folder containing a mere 20 - 30 messages, I had this idiot that sent me 30+ MB attachments, just opening that folder caused me troubles. On my current system I would've had less problems (there's a difference between W98 512MB and XP 2GB), but I can't test that as I saved those attachments separately and purged them from my message base. What was great about this system that even with one sluggish folder, my other folders were just fine, because TB only cares about the folders you've got open. 100 Folders with 1000 messages each is overly cautious of course, but a single folder with 10 messages isn't the smartest thing to do. Generally a folder with 1000 messages won't have 1000 attachments, but when you're collecting messages with MP3 files in a single folder the you're bound to get problems, even with a mere 1000 messages: my MP3s average about 3.5 MB, that makes a 5 MB message, so my 1000 messages would make me a 5 GB message base. Something like that is likely to burst some time. When all your other mail is in that same folder, you've got a catastrophe. 'Documented?', you ask. I answer: 'Common sense!' Users that burned themselves? Plenty! It's not that long ago that your general OS didn't allow files bigger than 2 GB and there were lots of of idiots that ignored those warnings too. Guideline: Keep archive folders under the 1 GB, folders with regular traffic half of that. High traffic folders less than 100 MB. And note that everything incoming passes your inbox, so that's the highest traffic you'll get and therefore the most vulnerable folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof This program must die under Microsoft Windows. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpPMbNSUBFGU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Local Host issue
Hello MAU, good suggestion.. Thursday, September 27, 2007, 6:05:38 PM, you wrote: > Hello lonewolf, >> Can anyone assist here at all? > Why don't you select Account/Properties/Transport/Protocol Logging and > enable logging for retrieval and post the log for a retrieval attempt > here? -- Best regards, pkr.batmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: corrupted emails
Hello Roelof,
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:44:39 +0200 your time, you said:
RO> TB handles better with 100 folders with 1000 messages each than with one
RO> folder with 10 messages.
Is this a documented limitation of TB!? Or is it purely a limitation
discovered at the expense of TB! users?
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Re: corrupted emails
Hallo lex, On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:56:12 +0100GMT (27-9-2007, 11:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L> it's happened three times now in the last few days: someone sends me a L> mail, when i select it to preview it in the window beneath it, it's L> just grey, as if there is no message. If I hit the rply button, the L> text of another message is placed as the original text/mail. Close TB and make a copy of the problem folder (I hope it's just one folder that causes the problems and I suspect that it's an inbox) to a safe location. Start TB Create a new folder Select all messages in your problem folder Move the selected messages to your new folder Your problem folder should be empty now Select your problem folder and compress it If that causes problems then close TB and delete the messages.tbb and .tbi files from your problem folder (with TB closed) Just in case you don't know how to locate the directory matching with your problem folder. Find your mail directory (options -> preferences -> system) (or opties -> voorkeuren -> Systeem) In your mail directory you'll find a directory for every account Every account directory has subdirectories for every folder in that account (directories for subfolders are nested too) To prevent this kind of problems in the future, you've got to 'purge and compress' regularly. (I prefer to do so on exit.) Don't let your folders grow too large, TB handles better with 100 folders with 1000 messages each than with one folder with 10 messages. TB has a great sorting office, so let it sort everything to its own folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 001 Windows loaded. System in danger. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfnipLsMHrq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Local Host issue
Hello lonewolf, > Can anyone assist here at all? Why don't you select Account/Properties/Transport/Protocol Logging and enable logging for retrieval and post the log for a retrieval attempt here? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.24 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Local Host issue
Fellow Bat! Fans. Using 127.0.0.1 to connect to K9 spam filter, works fine on port ; trying also to use 127.0.0.1 to connect to MyGate on ports 1700 /1701. The MyGate connection fails from Bat! -> MyGate and possibly vice versa as well. Get error message when connecting to MyGate from the log:- 16/09/2007, 21:57:58: FETCH - Connecting to 127.0.0.1... 16/09/2007, 21:58:00: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 16/09/2007, 21:58:00: FETCH - authenticated (plain) !16/09/2007, 21:58:02: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: "PASS", "STAT") Can anyone assist here at all? Maybe something in MYGate set up I can't see? (Have asked previously but so far no response which solves the issue). T.I.A! -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message "redirect: voyager.exe - application error"
Hello bat lovers seems my this post has not reached you all.. so repeating it again Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 8:27:11 PM, you wrote: > Hello , > First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager > to for installation CD of Office 2003. Even after supplying the > same, it goes into a loop. The error message is enclosed > (bat_error.png). If this particular message is somehow deleted it goes into > Trash Folder, does not create any problem. If attempt is made to > delete it from trash, the same problem is encountered. Otherwise no > issues. The message which has this problem is often with attachment or > even without attachment. Apparently from the error message it looks like > a memory related problem. But it is happening very rarely, prompting me to > think that its really not a memory problem. > Can somebody please throw some light ? > -- Best regards, pkr.batmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
corrupted emails
Hi, it's happened three times now in the last few days: someone sends me a mail, when i select it to preview it in the window beneath it, it's just grey, as if there is no message. If I hit the rply button, the text of another message is placed as the original text/mail. In all cases I knew these persons wanted something from me so I mailed them and asked them to resend me the mail and I got a perfectly normal mail from them, so it seems something corrupted those mails. My mail 'databases' are rather big, and I run a 10 accounts, but this shouldn't really be happening I guess. Anyone some ideas what I should do? Is there a 'repair database' tool or something similar? -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
126550 * 3.99.24 - Weird focus issue
test ---ORIGINAL MESSAGE-- Your Time : 20:23:47 [GMT +0100] Hours on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 Sri Lanka Time: 00:53:47 [GMT +0530] Hours on Sat, 22 Sep 2007 Subject : 3.99.24 - Weird focus issue From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO List : Alexander Cicovic CC List : > I suspect it could be related to the dual display update thingy. For > example, does the program use any weird window hooks that could > interfere with utilities like UltraMon? > For the record, I do have dual display but I never use The Bat! that > way and this has happened even when the second display was completely > off. I have a dual-display and sue Ultramon but cannot say I've experienced behaviour that sounds like that. I only mention it to maybe help you prioritise any diagnostic processes. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.24 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html ---END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE--- Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: spam doesn't work on one account
Tuesday, September 4, 2007, 9:51:17 PM, you wrote: PK> I had problems with Bayes filter plugin, switched to Antispamsniper for PK> Bat and it works well, False negative 2.18%, false positive 0.14%. Hi Peter, I installed a week or two ago, and it's impressive, thanks a lot for mentioning it! -- Lex Thoonen Pêng Smart Web Design - http://www.peng.nl Gran Canaria Info - http://www.gran-canaria-info.com Hollandse Nieuwe - http://www.hollandsenieuwe.com tel. +34 928 88.61.77 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error message "redirect: voyager.exe - application error"
Hello , First post, at times the incoming message triggers the voyager to for installation CD of Office 2003. Even after supplying the same, it goes into a loop. The error message is enclosed (bat_error.png). If this particular message is somehow deleted it goes into Trash Folder, does not create any problem. If attempt is made to delete it from trash, the same problem is encountered. Otherwise no issues. The message which has this problem is often with attachment or even without attachment. Apparently from the error message it looks like a memory related problem. But it is happening very rarely, prompting me to think that its really not a memory problem. Can somebody please throw some light ? -- Best regards, pkr.bat mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voyager 3.99.4/ CEEDO ON 120 gb HDD Sempron 2500/RAM 512 mb/ Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.24 - Weird focus issue
Hello there, Friday, September 21, 2007, 10:23:47 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote: MG> I have a dual-display and sue Ultramon but cannot say I've experienced MG> behaviour that sounds like that. Thanks Marten. I've been trying to nail what causes this but to no avail. Some times, The Bat! exhibits that behavior even in the first second of startup. Since its the only application that behaves that way, I'll probably downgrade because it is becoming increasingly difficult and annoying to do my job. -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic Using The Bat! 3.99.24 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.99.24 - Downgrading to 3.99.3
Hello there, Has anyone downgraded successfully from 3.99.24 to 3.99.3? Any known problems or extra precautions I should take? (besides data backup) -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic http://www.alexcicovic.com/ Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduling Backups
I have set up the Scheduler to backup at 6:15pm every day. The scheduler seems to have a mind of it's own, though. For instance, it just performed a backup (at ~9am). Any suggestions on how to keep the scheduler working according to the time I have specified? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.24 - Weird focus issue
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:02:53 +0300 GMT (22/09/2007, 02:02 +0700 GMT), Alexander Cicovic wrote: AC> From the day I upgraded to 3.99.24 I get a strange issue (happens AC> several times a day). AC> Suddenly the window of The Bat! acts like if it is inactive (like when AC> you bring a window on top of it). Clicking on it doesn't solve AC> anything, the window wants to be inactive and that's it. No mouse AC> clicks allowed inside it. It cannot be closed, minimized or moved and AC> the only choice I have is to close The Bat! from its tray icon. Instead of closing from there, click once on the inactive TB! window (so that Windows knows which program you mean) and hit crtl-F4 once. Let us know whether TB! suddenly becomes focussed. AC> Is this something anyone else has experienced? On occasions, what you describe happens over here too (single monitor), but only upon startup. I'm using 3.99.3 but it has happened for several versions. Only very few people can confirm it. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3357 Since the bugtracker is down, here is the original bug report: > Reported By:Hendrik > Assigned To: > == > Project:The Bat > Issue ID: 3357 > Category: ! Other > Reproducibility:random > Severity: block > Priority: normal > Status: feedback > == > Date Submitted: 11 Aug 2004 01:09 EEST > Last Modified: 21 Nov 2006 12:02 EET > == > Summary:Focus on main windows impossible after reciving > POP3-Mail > Description: > Sometimes, after checking POP3-accounts by dial-in-56-k-modem email is well > received, but the focus comes not back to the main window. It is impossible > to klich on "X" to close TB! as no focus is on the window. > Right-klick on the TB!-Tab in the taskbar and then "X" closes TB! > correctly. If the TB!-Tab in the taskbar is pushed, Alt+F4 brings the > focus back to the TB-main-window an one can continue to work normally. > It occurs randomly, but only at the first time after TB etablishes the > dial-in-connection. [bugnotes snipped] -- Cheers, Thomas. Eine Ratte schwaermt der anderen vor: 'Ach ja, diese Lerngesetze sind schon toll! Jedes Mal wenn ich diesen Hebel druecke, muss mir der Weisskittel Futter geben!' http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
