Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hi MAU, How many of those did you report in BT (Bug Tracker). Over the years - three, if I remember correctly. The first should have been some time 2005. Last time I checked, it was still listed as new and unassigned. So I stopped fiddling with the awkward system and rather reported to the mailing list. Developers are reading there, and they can't fail to notice the report. If they want to manage it further, they can do so themselves. If you did, it would be good if you post the links to them. You want me to make the effort twice? Either the list _or_ the tracker. And since the tracker apparently doesn't get much attention, the list. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpTxAgwatIzq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hello Dwight, IMAP: Occasionally tasks will never finish. Sometimes they are benign, that is, their hanging at least doesn't block anything, sometimes some or all folders can't be displayed any more (message list empty) Have encountered this occasionally. Not really a show stopper to me. It forces a restart of TheBat. If this happens frequently it is a real bother, especially since TheBat doesn't notify you that it has just locked up, naturally. If you don't check it yourself every ten minutes you can never be sure that it is indeed still working and alerting you about incoming mail. IMAP: Folders duplicate. In v3-versions I've just been seeing Trash.1 (sometimes it is deletable, sometimes it isn't), in v4 other folders duplicate with the exact same name (Outlook created a folder named Junk, TheBat copied it four times already (deletable) Have not encountered this in a very long time. Happened to me this morning. IMAP: Unable to manage folders. Right-click on folder: Mark as read and Empty are greyed out. Switch back and forth between this and other folders, eventually the options will be available. Not seeing this today, never seen it before. Mark as read not available when folder is empty. I installed v4 on Friday afternoon and have been seeing it back then already, though I didn't pay much attention to it. Today I had to, because it occured regularily: Messages were displayed in msg list window, yet neither Mark as read nor Empty on the folder were available. IMAP: Folder shows now messages (in message list), but still count is non zero. Select Mark all read (folder right-click context menu), usually the count will zero. I guess you mean 'no messages.' Of course, sorry. This is the most pervasive flaw in TB! IMAP Ironically, this is the one from the pack I could rather live with. ;-) Mail check: Check will cease after some time, new messages will no longer be announced nor displayed, even on manual folder change. Restart required to get it working again. (Observed with last v3 release, not yet with v4) Long time since I was running version 3, so no comment. History now anyway. Indeed, with v4 it hasn't occured here yet, either. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpOKXEPR0EL9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hi MAU, How many of those did you report in BT (Bug Tracker). Over the years - three, if I remember correctly. The first should have been some time 2005. Last time I checked, it was still listed as new and unassigned. So I stopped fiddling with the awkward system and rather reported to the mailing list. Developers are reading there, and they can't fail to notice the report. If they want to manage it further, they can do so themselves. If you did, it would be good if you post the links to them. You want me to make the effort twice? Either the list _or_ the tracker. And since the tracker apparently doesn't get much attention, the list. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
On Monday, February 11, 2008, 11:02:57 AM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: It forces a restart of TheBat. Usually of you focus on another folder, then return it takes care of itself. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hello Dwight, IMAP: Occasionally tasks will never finish. Sometimes they are benign, that is, their hanging at least doesn't block anything, sometimes some or all folders can't be displayed any more (message list empty) Have encountered this occasionally. Not really a show stopper to me. It forces a restart of TheBat. If this happens frequently it is a real bother, especially since TheBat doesn't notify you that it has just locked up, naturally. If you don't check it yourself every ten minutes you can never be sure that it is indeed still working and alerting you about incoming mail. IMAP: Folders duplicate. In v3-versions I've just been seeing Trash.1 (sometimes it is deletable, sometimes it isn't), in v4 other folders duplicate with the exact same name (Outlook created a folder named Junk, TheBat copied it four times already (deletable) Have not encountered this in a very long time. Happened to me this morning. IMAP: Unable to manage folders. Right-click on folder: Mark as read and Empty are greyed out. Switch back and forth between this and other folders, eventually the options will be available. Not seeing this today, never seen it before. Mark as read not available when folder is empty. I installed v4 on Friday afternoon and have been seeing it back then already, though I didn't pay much attention to it. Today I had to, because it occured regularily: Messages were displayed in msg list window, yet neither Mark as read nor Empty on the folder were available. IMAP: Folder shows now messages (in message list), but still count is non zero. Select Mark all read (folder right-click context menu), usually the count will zero. I guess you mean 'no messages.' Of course, sorry. This is the most pervasive flaw in TB! IMAP Ironically, this is the one from the pack I could rather live with. ;-) Mail check: Check will cease after some time, new messages will no longer be announced nor displayed, even on manual folder change. Restart required to get it working again. (Observed with last v3 release, not yet with v4) Long time since I was running version 3, so no comment. History now anyway. Indeed, with v4 it hasn't occured here yet, either. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hello Dwight, IMAP: Occasionally tasks will never finish. Sometimes they are benign, that is, their hanging at least doesn't block anything, sometimes some or all folders can't be displayed any more (message list empty) Have encountered this occasionally. Not really a show stopper to me. It forces a restart of TheBat. If this happens frequently it is a real bother, especially since TheBat doesn't notify you that it has just locked up, naturally. If you don't check it yourself every ten minutes you can never be sure that it is indeed still working and alerting you about incoming mail. IMAP: Folders duplicate. In v3-versions I've just been seeing Trash.1 (sometimes it is deletable, sometimes it isn't), in v4 other folders duplicate with the exact same name (Outlook created a folder named Junk, TheBat copied it four times already (deletable) Have not encountered this in a very long time. Happened to me this morning. IMAP: Unable to manage folders. Right-click on folder: Mark as read and Empty are greyed out. Switch back and forth between this and other folders, eventually the options will be available. Not seeing this today, never seen it before. Mark as read not available when folder is empty. I installed v4 on Friday afternoon and have been seeing it back then already, though I didn't pay much attention to it. Today I had to, because it occured regularily: Messages were displayed in msg list window, yet neither Mark as read nor Empty on the folder were available. IMAP: Folder shows now messages (in message list), but still count is non zero. Select Mark all read (folder right-click context menu), usually the count will zero. I guess you mean 'no messages.' Of course, sorry. This is the most pervasive flaw in TB! IMAP Ironically, this is the one from the pack I could rather live with. ;-) Mail check: Check will cease after some time, new messages will no longer be announced nor displayed, even on manual folder change. Restart required to get it working again. (Observed with last v3 release, not yet with v4) Long time since I was running version 3, so no comment. History now anyway. Indeed, with v4 it hasn't occured here yet, either. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpUsMyQHRPus.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: missing attachments
Hello all, Monday, February 11, 2008, Ian A. White wrote: This is as a result of a bug with the autosave feature. If an autosave kicks in, then the attachments get lost. Until it is fixed, then you should disable the autosave feature by setting the interval to 0. fixed in 4.0.14, update available on ritlabs.com -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hi John, Care to list them? Ah yes, the gags of this morning: - Came in to notice that some messages that I sent yesterday in fact hadn't been sent. Instead, they were lingering in the Outbox - several times each. I hit send all, one less. Hit send again, nothing more happened, though there were still some messages there. I fiddled around with it some more, which I believe resulted in sending some duplicates, but couldn't send them all. I tried to delete them, didn't work either. Then I chose unpark and then deleted them, now at least the Outbox is empty again. I have no idea which of the messages were actually sent and how often that might have occured. - I wrote a message, sent it and after some time noted that it, too, still lingered in the Outbox. This time, however, there was an error in the log Could not export message. I deleted v4. This is not acceptable. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Alto Speckhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpvE7B97BEWc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Time Zone Conversion Error?
Hi all I'm trying to figure whether the 'Created' date conversion from one time zone to the other is a Bat problem. This is the Created Date field data: 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 (11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET) I'm assuming that the email is created in the CET time zone, hence the date in brackets, and that the date shown as 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 is the date converted to my time zone, which should be GMT. Is this a function of Windows, TheBat! or a bit of both? How do I get it to show the correct date? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.14 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 at 09:26:28 GMT, Barry wrote: Hi all I'm trying to figure whether the 'Created' date conversion from one time zone to the other is a Bat problem. This is the Created Date field data: 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 (11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET) I'm assuming that the email is created in the CET time zone, hence the date in brackets, and that the date shown as 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 is the date converted to my time zone, which should be GMT. Is this a function of Windows, TheBat! or a bit of both? It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the headers. Then find the header that starts with Date:, copy the entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ For instance, in your email the header says Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:26:28 GMT How do I get it to show the correct date? If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On 12/02/2008 09:43:46, Robin Anson wrote: It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the headers. Then find the header that starts with Date:, copy the entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ Date: 11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET So how does this compare with your template? If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. I don't really want to be messing about editing incoming emails, if the conversion is an error with the sender's data, then I'll inform them. On the other hand if the problem is with TheBat! then it needs reporting as a bug, I guess? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.14 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Set default spell check language or use Makro
Hello Tbbeta, I have the following macro in my quicktemplates to switch to the german spell checker: %LANGUAGE=CSAPI GN%- That worked in 3.99.29, but does not work any more in 4.0.11. CSAPI is installed (I can see a corresponding tab in the spellchecker options) and I can select German as spell checker language in the status bar (I can't tell if this the CSAPI spellchecker or the SSCE, though). Just for information: in my Speller folder in TB's program folder I have the following files: accent.tlx correct.tlx Ssceam.tlx Ssceam2.clx UserDic.TLX No german dictionaries here, so I guess I am using CSAPI when I switch to German. So any ideas what the correct syntax is for a makro to set the german CSAPI automatically again, or is there a setting somewhere to tell TB to use a specific dictionary as default? -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Download URL Manager
Hello Paul, A reminder of what Paul Berger typed on: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 11:06:57 GMT -0800 PB This is new in Ver 4. PB Any suggestion as to how to turn it off? Click on the little planet icon in the header area. Select the option you want. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.14 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Download URL Manager
This is new in Ver 4. Any suggestion as to how to turn it off? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...I M a tru beleever in hour edukashun sistum. Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Hello Alto, So I stopped fiddling with the awkward system and rather reported to the mailing list. Developers are reading there, and they can't fail to notice the report. If they want to manage it further, they can do so themselves. Whether awkard or not, the BT works and gets attention from the developers. Have you taken a look lately to see how many bugs have been resolved and closed? The closed ones are not displayed by default, you have to change the filter. If you did, it would be good if you post the links to them. You want me to make the effort twice? Either the list or the tracker. And since the tracker apparently doesn't get much attention, the list. Well, posting the links helps others who may habe the same problem to add confirmations notes. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: missing attachments
Hello Marek, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 4:18:28 AM, you wrote: Marek Hello all, Marek Monday, February 11, 2008, Ian A. White wrote: This is as a result of a bug with the autosave feature. If an autosave kicks in, then the attachments get lost. Until it is fixed, then you should disable the autosave feature by setting the interval to 0. Marek fixed in 4.0.14, update available on ritlabs.com Thank you. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 4.0.12.1, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 at 10:16:31 GMT, Barry wrote: On 12/02/2008 09:43:46, Robin Anson wrote: It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the headers. Then find the header that starts with Date:, copy the entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ Date: 11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET So how does this compare with your template? It should read something like: Date: 11 Feb 2008 15:42:09 CET A more complete specification for the date syntax can be found in RFC 2822 (the Internet message format standard). In summary, it allows for: * optional day-of-the-week (3 character) followed by a comma * 1 or 2 digit day number * 3 character month name * 4 digit year (although it allows for the obsolete 2 digit year form) * 2 digits each of hour, minute and seconds, separated by : * Timezone expressed as + or - followed by 4 digits (although it allows for a range of obsolete codes including 3 character codes like CET) What it doesn't permit is the - between the date elements that you have identified above. If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. I don't really want to be messing about editing incoming emails, if the conversion is an error with the sender's data, then I'll inform them. It seems to be On the other hand if the problem is with TheBat! then it needs reporting as a bug, I guess? It seems not to be -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Spelling language settings
Jenny Zonneveld plaatste dit op zijn scherm : Thanks - that works! And are the English variations EN US and EN BR? I did not have to change my template for English contacts: %LANGUAGE='BR' -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spelling language settings
Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 1:14:34 PM, you wrote: AT Jenny Zonneveld formuleerde op dinsdag : How do I get the language in the template to work AT Change %language=NL to %language=DU NL in your template. Thanks - that works! And are the English variations EN US and EN BR? -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spelling language settings
Jenny Zonneveld formuleerde op dinsdag : How do I get the language in the template to work Change %language=NL to %language=DU NL in your template. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spelling language settings
I also have a query about the spelling and language settings in the new version of TheBat! I have a language setting in my template which no longer works - I set it because some people get mail in English and others in Dutch, and the setting in the template means I don't have to change the language for every mail. I also had two buttons to change the language when necessary, but these don't work any more either, and it's such a long time ago that I made them, I've no idea how to do it any more! How do I get the language in the template to work, and how can I restore my shortcut keys for changing the language? -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld The Bat! 4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adress Tab: Folder Column not updated
Hello Tbudl, When I switch to folder Tab Addresses I use a view mode that shows the column Folder, so I can easily see where the original file is located. Now when I move a message in that view the message is moved, but the list still shows the old folder in the folder column. That stays until I restart TB. In normal folder lists (that is, not using the Addresses tab) the folder column is immediately updated after the move. Hope you understand what I mean. Any confirmations? -- Martin TB! 4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Gerard, G I just installed 4.0.11 and sailed to a folder full of these G attachments only to find I still cant do anything with them in TB. The Bat! should be able to look into the WINMAIL.DAT when a messages is loaded and extract attachments from there. If you don't see any attachment but WINMAIL.DAT itself and you are sure it contains some other parts, please submit such a message to bugtrack so we can see what is wrong with it... -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello all, Monday, February 11, 2008, Gerard wrote: I was pleased to see the inclusion of TNEF support for those nasty winmail.dat files. I just installed 4.0.11 and sailed to a folder full of these attachments only to find I still cant do anything with them in TB. As ussual the help file or the website don't provide a clue on how to use/activate. Anyone here that figured it out? if You open message with winmail.dat/message.att, attachments extrancted from them should be displayed in Attachments pane. If You see winmail.dat/message.att only, You can install separate app called Winmail Opener and check, if it extracts any file from them, as I tested this, TB allways displayed same content as Winmail Opener. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
ON Monday, February 11, 2008, 11:39:25 PM, you wrote: M Hello Gerard, M You don't need to do anything. Although the winmail.dat is still shown M as an attachment, its contents is displayed in the message pane. You M can verify that if you open the winmail.dat attachment with Winmail M Opener (http://www.eolsoft.com/freeware/winmail_opener/) Hi MAU, I get most of my TNEF email's from a subscription service. They also place the content of the email in a plain text part int he email. The bat will show that and not show the attachment. You can see this because the formatting is missing in the plain text part. I cant find a way to display the winmail.dat section in TB. I am using winmail opener to see the attachment now. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- MBA -Mediocre But Arrogant Using The Bat! v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
