Re: Spam
Tim, On 22-05-2010 05:14, you wrote in mid:1812825999.20100521201...@cox.net: Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Spam Assassin on the mail server. :-) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 4.0.39.33 (BETA) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 12 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 1 POP3 MyGate, 300K+ msgs. /env. os Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 /os Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hi On Saturday 22 May 2010 at 4:14:42 AM, in mid:1812825999.20100521201...@cox.net, Tim Hamm wrote: Hello TBUL, Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! I find that being careful when giving out my email address and using different addresses for different purposes keeps it to a minimum. For example, the address I use for newsgroups and mailing lists is a yahoo address that I change every year; in six years I have only once needed to ditch the address after a shorter time due to spam, four years ago. Websites that require registration with an email address get disposable or spamgourmet addresses. Companies I deal with by email get either a spamgourmet address or an address of the form companyn...@mydomain. Out of 200-300 emails most days, usually spam messages are in single figures. Every couple of years or so, I suddenly start getting lots of spam messages, but this has always stopped just as suddenly after about 1500 messages spread over 7-10 days. It's so infrequent and short-lived that it doesn't become a problem; if it became a problem, turning off the catch-all email forwarding on my two domain names would stop it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Saturday, May 22, 2010, 5:14:42 AM, you wrote: Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! I use Fastmail.fm and they do very good spam filtering on the server. Before that I used the antispam engine in my G Data Total Care Security Suite, that worked also very well. Zoltan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam
Fellow list members, Am I the only one still using K9? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello Tim, Friday, May 21, 2010, 8:14:42 PM, you wrote: Tim Hello TBUL, Tim Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a Tim favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to Tim find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Tim Thanks in advance for your input!!! I use Antispam Marisuite for The Bat! v1.7.2 At the start it missed about 30/100, and did a false pos on 15/100. After a week or so, of teaching Antispam Marisuite which is what and what is which, it has only messed up 2 times, marking the e-mail spam, when it was not and missed 1 spam and did not catch it. I have about 50 to 60 e-mails a day and I check the Junk Folder every couple of days, just to make sure. The BEST part of Antispam Marisuite for The Bat! is it integrates in to The Bat!, after using Outlook Express for years and trying to find a good spam program.. -- Best regards, Chasonekmailto:chaso...@hughes.net All Mail Virus Checked on it's way out, AND Virus Checked And Spam Checked on it's way in. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello Hajdú, On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:17:32 +0200 GMT (22/May/10, 19:17 PM +0700 GMT), Hajdú Zoltán wrote: Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? HZ I use Fastmail.fm and they do very good spam filtering on the HZ server. Same here, except I don't use fastmail.fm but gmx.net. No need for any spam filtering on my computer. Server-side is better anyway: No need to download all the spam messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello TBUL, Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! I use Spam Assassin on the server and only the AntispamSniper plugin. However I also have an account at Spamcop.net and report the S.O.B.s as fast as they come in. After a while the flow slows to a dribble - I get 1-3 a day these days If you use Mailwasher, they have a built in report-to-spamcop feature if you have an account If reporting sounds like a lot of time, just remember that you are going to spend time on spam one way or the other. You might as well cost the spammers some money as they get their accounts closed -- Rick Never go to bed mad. Stay up and fight. - Phyllis Diller v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! SpamAssassin does the job on my server. A while, the greylisting was active, which detected all spam, but also too many mails didn't came through who were 'good' for me. It costs me too much time to add each of them to the whitelist there, so I deactivated the greylisting and the SPAM which is not detected by SpamAssassin is processed locally.. Many years I used for that the very good antispamsniper for The Bat! (registered), but since I installed the New PCTools Internet security, I use that also as spamprocessor, because it conflicted with Antispamsniper. Regards, Gunivortus E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.15050 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-- With best regards Lars Sölter mailto:lars.soel...@eanschrift.de The Bat! Version 4.2.36.4 Windows 7 / (Build 7600) Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hi On Saturday 22 May 2010 at 5:16:23 PM, in mid:1227060325.20100522231...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Server-side is better anyway: No need to download all the spam messages. And, presumably, no way to rescue messages falsely categorised as spam. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello Ian, Saturday, May 22, 2010, 4:17:51 PM, you wrote: G'day MFPA, On Sunday, May 23, 2010, at 8:45:34 AM, you (MFPA) wrote: Server-side is better anyway: No need to download all the spam messages. M And, presumably, no way to rescue messages falsely categorised as M spam. It is a major disadvantage of server-side spam filtering and why I have disabled this with my ISP. The big advantage of Mailwasher is that you get to see a list of the messages available and you can preview them if you like. It is you who then decides whether to download the entire message. If you do inadvertently delete a legitimate message, you do have a recycle bin where you can recover all or part of the message. If you cannot recover the message body, you can at least contact the sender and ask it be sent again. I am not in favour of ANY system that classifies the messages and acts on its own. I am currently in dispute with a client owing several thousands of dollars. He uses Norton 360, and essentially you cannot send him any e-mail that has a dollar sign in it, or refers to the word dollar or any other terms that are part of an invoice. Norton 360 automatically deletes them and he does not want to change any settings because he wants it to work that way. Basically this way he claims he never received anything. Unfortunately, experience has shown that systems that automatically classify mail and then download and file them away in a spam or junk folder without any user intervention see the user rarely (if ever) checking the spam or junk folder which is then automatically purged. That being the case such systems are as bad as server-side filtering. The user needs to be in control, and even then there needs to be some capability of recovery. WOW!!! Thanks for everyone's input, this was all good info...!!! -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello MFPA, On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:45:34 +0100 GMT (23/May/10, 5:45 AM +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Server-side is better anyway: No need to download all the spam messages. M And, presumably, no way to rescue messages falsely categorised as M spam. You presume wrong. I get a daily list of mails that where classified as spam, and a link in each mail which I can click on and mark the message as not spam. In addition, I can look at the spam folder any time I like and de-spam a message. I would look there if I am expecting a message and haven't received it yet. In most cases, the list of spam messages in the morning is sufficient. The spam clasification is based on Bayesian filters, so it learns. I can also explicitely white-list or black-list email address. So, I have all the comfort a client-side spam solution offers, with the difference that I don't need to download the messages first. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Hello tb...@thebat., Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:14:42 PM, you wrote: TH Hello TBUL, TH Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a TH favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to TH find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. TH Thanks in advance for your input!!! A lot of great ideas have come in. If you prefer to use the built-in mail filtering in Sorting Office: You put in all the positive filters to move the mail you want to accept to particular folders. Then you put in a last filter to dispose of spam that reaches you but was not addressed specifically to you. Sequence is important Account – Sorting Office/Filters Incoming Mail The Bat Header contains TBUDL Or Header contains tbudl Or Header contains thebat.dutaint.com Action: Move to folder …TheBat SpamHeader contains mpx.com Or Sender contains about 6 filters for spammers Action: Move to folder …Trash RamblersHeader contains any of paulb.rambl...@mailnull.com ramblers@gishpuppy.com vicnet@gishpuppy.com bcqoxctfi...@spammotel.com Action: Move to folder …Ramblers Reply Welcome Address Book contains sender Or Header contains mailnull.com Or Recipient contains gishpuppy,com Or Header contains my-etrust.com Or Sender contains melbpc.org.au Or Sender contains optusnet.com.au And about 20 other senders Action: Move to folder …Welcome Access Sender contains Access Action: Move to folder …Access SIG Spam Last Filter Recipient does not match berg...@optusnet.com.au And Recipient does not contain mailnull.com And Recipient does not contain spammotel.com And Recipient does not contain gishpuppy.com Action: Move to folder …Trash Not using Selective Download. To block emails over 1 MB. Account – Properties – Mail Management – Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than 1000 KB You get message that the email is on the server. Control-Shift-F2 to access this and decide to download or delete. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
