Re[2]: memory violation

2003-01-11 Thread David Tucker
Roelof -

win98 2nd ed
sometimes it crash itself without doing anything or i tried to click
one of bat client icon to compose or reply. cant remember what other
prg are running, mostly IE browser. compressed everytime i close bat
client. memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such as
button, icon, and etc.

David Tucker  
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Saturday, January 11, 2003, 8:24:46 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo David,

RO On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 06:26:41 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 15:26 +0100GMT, where
RO I live), you wrote:

DT once in a while, the bat client crashed with error message,
DT 'memory violation...' anyone has similar incident? the version is
DT 1.62.

RO What OS do you use?
RO What are you doing when TB crashes?
RO What other programs are running when it happens?

RO When was the last time you compressed all folders?



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Re[2]: memory violation

2003-01-11 Thread David Tucker
To all -

Thanks for the tips. I will check out the problems. Thanks for
pointing out the spam issue in regard to email signature. I never
thought of harvesting.

David Tucker



Saturday, January 11, 2003, 9:16:20 AM, you wrote:

RO Hallo David,

RO On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:28:31 -0800GMT (11-1-03, 17:28 +0100GMT, where
RO I live), you wrote:

DT memory violation error seems to be pointing to bat gui such as
DT button, icon, and etc.

RO Since you're pointing to the gui, did you try a newer driver version
RO for your graphics card?

RO BTW Your signature includes your e-mail address. This list has a
RO public webbased archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/
RO The addresses in the headers are deleted, but addresses in the message
RO bodies are kept, thus making it easy for harvest bots to harvest your
RO e-mail address for spamming purposes. You might consider removing it
RO from your list template.

RO BTW2 You answered several questions at the top of the message, quoting
RO the entire message under it. Therefore leaving to the recipient to
RO decide what answer belonged to which question. This procedure is
RO called top-posting or top-quoting and is frowned upon by many
RO participants of this list, especially since it causes excessive
RO quoting, which is against the list rules. A better way is to use the
RO style called 'intermittent quoting', which looks more like a
RO conversation. That looks like this:

RO What OS do you use?

RO Win98se

RO What are you doing when TB crashes?

RO Sometimes nothing

RO What other programs are running when it happens?

RO IE

RO When was the last time you compressed all folders?

RO Each time I close TB.



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Re[3]: XML Address Book Format

2003-01-03 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Spike, all:

Obviously I know better than to use Outlook for email, but I still use
Outlook's address book and calendar etc. because these work so well with
my pocket PC.

1. So, am I still vulnerable in ways that you mention?

2. Does Norton AV not do an adequate job of detecting Bugbear and Yaha?

3. (I have no plans to use instant messaging. Thanks for reminding me
- WHY not!)

Best,

David Austen



Friday, January 03, 2003, 10:33:48 AM, you wrote:

S Hello M. Evans,

S On or about Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 12:17:36GMT -0700
S (which was 2:17 PM in the tropics where I live) M. Evans
S scribbled:

ME That strikes me as pretty preposterous.  XML files are ASCII
ME files and it would be awfully hard for a virus to hide in
ME one.

S ..and just as simple for a virus to READ and attack USING THEM...

S I wasn't saying anything about XML per-se. My point was that
S making an _Address Book_ more standard allows it to be targeted
S by any virus.  I have DELETED MS Outhouse AND the Windows Address
S Book {WAB} entirely from my system, due to this exact
S vulnerability.  I don't even run anti-virus anymore, as I can't
S stand the performance hit of 15-20% of my systems resources. I
S acquired and use TB! for the very reason that it is (thus far)
S immune to known viral attacks.

S I'm not stupid enough to execute any file that could be
S dangerous, which is the only way something arriving in my e-mail
S could do any damage while using TB!  If you foolishly allow
S BugBear or Yaha to somehow run on your system, it DOES target the
S TB! address book!  Fair warning!  I have worked on 32 systems
S this past week alone that are infected with Yaha, and three of
S them were TB! equipped systems, but the virus came in through AIM
S or MSN IM and were accepted and run by OPERATOR ERROR.

S BTW, SOPHOS has an automated removal tool for the YAHA virus at;

S http://www.sophos.com/tools/rmyahsfx.exe

S It's a lot easier than the detailed instructions (3-5 printed
S pages) for removal offered by other AV vendors I have found. Just
S make sure you download it on an _UNINFECTED_ machine before you
S use it!!  It has saved me hours of registry editing and file
S search and deletion.  The only thing you have to do is delete the
S virus code from the ?:\Windows\System folder.




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David   

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Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer

2002-12-22 Thread David van Zuijlekom
Hello Allie,

On Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 17:18:39 -0500, you wrote concerning
'Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer':
...
 Do you have a filter that automatically adds posters to your address
 book?

Yes I have. I use it for private replying to list members.

 When Victor's templates were problematic his replies would say that
 the message is from him but his address would be that of the person
 to whom he's replying. Look for the address/es in your address book
 for Victor and you should find that the e-mail address is actually
 mine, i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes that was it. I had an addressbook entry of Victor containing your
e-mail address. Thanks Allie and Roelof.

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Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer

2002-12-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom
Hello Victor (uhm... I mean Allie),

On Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 13:55:07 -0500, you wrote concerning
'Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer':
...
 Afterall, my name *is* Allie; I do see the reason for
 misunderstanding, and I can't do much at this point about it. ;)

Maybe they've seen to much Allie McBeal? ;-)

I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get Hello
Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't have a reply
template in your addressbook entry that overrules the addressbook
entry of the list. So I don't know what's causing this.

Does anyone has a clue?

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Re[2]: Getting 'educational' out of the headers?

2002-12-21 Thread David Shepherd
Hello Allie,

Friday, December 20, 2002, 4:35:47 AM, you wrote:

ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
ACM Hash: SHA1

ACM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Tim Fountain [TF] wrote:'

TF Although I was a student when I bought the TB!, I'm not now. Is
TF there any way to get rid of the 'educational' part of X-Mailer
TF header line short of buying a new copy of the program, or should
TF I be doing that anyway?

ACM I contacted Ritlabs and did get a specific answer on this.

ACM If you're no longer a student, to continue legally using TB! you
ACM have to upgrade to the private license. You can do so at the same
ACM site that you purchase TB!. The upgrade options are there.

ACM https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html

Oh whew!   I'll be a student for another 8 months ;-)



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Re: Filtering on attachment file name

2002-12-19 Thread David Grimes
On Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:47 AM,  Ron Jeffries wrote:

That name must appear somewhere in the text or kludges, I'd think ... have
you tried just looking for Norton AntiVirus Deleted anywhere?

Thanks. Yes, that what I figured. But it is not displayed in the headers,
and my test filter does not process a message with this string even if I set
the Location to Anywhere.  Quite a poser.

David Grimes
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Filtering on attachment file name

2002-12-18 Thread David Grimes
Is it possible to set up a filter based on the file name of a message
attachment?  NAV 2002 replaces an infected attachment with a text file named
Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt.  I'd like to create a filter for them.

Thanks,

David Grimes
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Replies, original message text sometimes not appearing

2002-12-17 Thread David Cohen
When replying to a message, sometimes, but not always, the text of the
original message does not appear on the screen. When this happens it
doesn't matter whether it's a reply to a whole message, or reply
quoting selected text in the Specials menu. Has anyone else
experienced this problem or know what is happening?

-- 
David Cohen

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Re: Replies, original message text sometimes not appearing

2002-12-17 Thread David Cohen
Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 6:12:10 PM, you wrote:

DC When replying to a message, sometimes, but not always, the text of the
DC original message does not appear on the screen.

 Maybe you're using an AB- ... template that doesn't use the
 %quotes macro?

Bingo! So simple! Thanks very much.

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Re: New TB! Release Notification.

2002-12-10 Thread David Stone
Hello,

Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 6:12:56 AM, you wrote:



CW I don't know how many others of you added your e-mail address to the
CW 'new release notification' on the support page on the TB! website, but
CW I've still not heard anything about the Crimbo Edition.
Reading the beta list my understanding is that version 1.62 CE is
still a beta version circa beta 18 which those kind people on the beta
list are picking the nits out of.

(For non uk readers 'nits' are small pets mostly owned by us British and
are like small bugs! :)  )
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How to look up an address?

2002-12-10 Thread David Floyd
Scenario

I have an incoming mail addressed as follows:

To:Auditor auditor@bath=wells.org.uk

and I need to send this out to the Auditor's address, in tact and I 
think I can do it like this:


%TEXT

%To=
%From=

%To=
%From=%OFROMNAME %OFROMADDR
%Subject=%OSUBJ
%REPLYTO=%OFROMNAME %OFROMADDR

What do I put after %To=

where I need Bat to look up auditor in a specified address book 
(Bath-Wells-contacts) where auditor is the handle and the resulting 
address is David Floyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can any-one help with this please.
This is just an examples, there would be many different addresses in 
use.

Thanks,
David Floyd
--
++
| David Floyd   |  http://www.floyd.org.uk   |
| Bath  Wells Ringers Web  |  http://www.Bath-Wells.org.uk  |
| Bath Choral Society   |  http://www.bath-choral-society.org.uk |
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Re: My comments about The Bat! a question

2002-12-07 Thread David Floyd

How does a novice learn to write such templates as was posted here, 
please.  Can some-one point me in the right direction.

Thanks
David Floyd

In message of Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Thomas Fernandez writes
BEGIN

Hello %OFromFName,

On%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}
)\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS GMT (%ODateShort, %OTime +0700 GMT),
%OFROMNAME wrote:

%Cursor
%quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
(.*?)(^(- --|-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNATURE)|\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3

--

%Qinclude=tbsig
%Singlere
%TO=%TO=%OFromName on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Query re use of generic email addresses

2002-12-06 Thread David Floyd
I hope some-one can tell me if this is possible.  I have now been 
searching for a couple of weeks for an answer with no luck. Also I find 
understanding Macros rather difficult.

I run a mailing list for a group of about 100 people which I set up 
about a year ago and mastered this using the examples provided in 
TheBat!

What I would like to do now is to provide generic email addresses to 
about 400 contacts on a web page.  I do not want their own email 
addresses to show on the web page.  What I need is (say) for an email 
like [EMAIL PROTECTED] where 'thiscontact' could be 1 of about 
400 and when the email is received in TB for it to be sent out 'as is' 
to the real recipient.

I can see how to do this one at a time with a filter, but I am wondering 
if there is a way to avoid having to have 400 filters, so the 
'thiscontact' can be looked up in the contacts address book and insert 
the appropriate recipient's address in the To:

Any help (in simple language) would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
David Floyd
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Re: Query re use of generic email addresses

2002-12-06 Thread David Floyd
In message of Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Dierk Haasis writes

Hello David!

On Friday, December 6, 2002 at 6:00:09 PM you wrote:


Any help (in simple language) would be very much appreciated.


Since I am not quite sure I understood you correctly I can only give a
hint that may suit you: Quick Templates used for Mass Mailing (This is
a feature available from the Address Book).

With MM you can customize your posts to the people on you list such
that they get individual messages with only their own address anywhere
in it.

For an automated process one can surely utilize filters, macros and
RegExs. IIRC somewhere in the FAQ is an article by Leif Gregory on how
to set up a mailing list with TB.



Sorry, no that wasn't what I meant, I already have a mailing list up and 
running.

What I trying to do is redirect a message that comes in to a particular 
person e.g. a mail comes in addressed to (say)
Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and TB redirects it to
Fred Bloggs[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That can be done using filter, but there could be up to 400 different 
addresses involved and I am wondering if somehow Contact can be looked 
up in the address book as a nickname and the relevant address then added 
to the To: in the redirected mail, otherwise it would mean setting up 
400 filters (rather cumbersome and I don't know if you could have that 
number of filters in one mailbox)

Thanks,
David


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Re: Query re use of generic email addresses

2002-12-06 Thread David Floyd
In message of Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Simon Blake writes

'Lo David,

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:09 + your time, you said:

DF What  I  need  is (say) for an email like [EMAIL PROTECTED] where
DF 'thiscontact'  could be 1 of about 400 and when the email is received in
DF TB for it to be sent out 'as is' to the real recipient.

I take it the *@xyz.org.uk address is a catchall address,


Yes. It' bath-wells.org.uk which is hosted at uk2.net.  I just pick the 
mail up by POP3 from uk2.net

I do have 24 hour connection (ADSL) so members wouldn't suffer a delay.

Take a look at www.bath-wells.org.uk then click on one of the Branches 
(Axbridge, say). Each tower should have a contact, but many people are 
reluctant to have their email addy published on the web.  If I can offer 
a generic form of address I can control any missuse (as I do with the 
bell-ringers news/mailing list).

Cheers,
David

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| David Floyd   ||
| Bath  Wells Bell-ringers |  http://www.Bath-Wells.org.uk  |
| Bath Choral Society   |  http://www.bath-choral-society.org.uk |
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Upgrading OS, adding a drive and downloading the latest Bat.

2002-12-05 Thread David R. Austen
Greetings, all:


I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

I expect it will be a good idea to upgrade my PC (98SE) to XP in the
near future. At the same time, I want to upgrade my version of Bat; I
am still using v. 1.53d.

I am contemplating the following strategy: Have a new hard disk
installed (it would be D:) and use that new drive as the default drive
and boot XP each time.

My existing software would remain on the C drive, unless and until I
decide on the migration of some software. Eventually I would remove
the OS from that C drive.

But I think I would download and then install a late (latest beta?)
version of The Bat on the D: drive.

My intention is to minimize risk as much as possible -- as long as I
am going to the expense of buying an additional drive.


Thoughts, anybody?


Best regards,

David





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Re: Marking messages as Read when replied.

2002-11-30 Thread David Goggin
Hello Miguel,

 if you care to read a message I posted
 on October 25th [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with
 Subject: Displaying new status in account tree pane and folder
 summary pane, you may get some ideas.

I'd very much like to read this message, but I wasn't on the list at
that time, and the archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/
doesn't go back that far. Can you send me a copy or re-post?

TIA!
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Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello tbudl,

  I'm evaluating TB, and in reading the archives for this list, I
  heard mention that some folks had worked on some help file type
  material for newbies. Is that available? If so, I'd love a copy to
  help during my evaluation period.

  Also, is there a shortcut key to expand/collapse all threads when in
  thread mode?

  TIA!

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Re: Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello Pete,

Monday, November 25, 2002, 8:46:53 PM, you wrote:


Also, is there a shortcut key to expand/collapse all threads when in
thread mode?

PM Try 'Ctrl-*', works for me.


I got it from the FAQ -- I'm using a laptop and have to use
Ctrl-Fn-Grey * ... that is, I have to invoke a function key to get
the equivalent of the * key in the keypad section of a conventional
keyboard. Thanks!

Still would like any newbie writeups, unless the FAQ is it, as I've
found that and am exploring ...

New question -- can you edit an message you've downloaded? For
example, I get some newsletters and want to keep portions of them, but
delete all the advertizing. I got hooked on doing this in OL2002 and
was wondering if you can do anything like that with The Bat! ?

TIA,
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Re: Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello Jonathan,

Monday, November 25, 2002, 10:01:45 PM, you wrote:

 On Monday, November 25, 2002, David Goggin wrote...

 New question -- can you edit an message you've downloaded? For
 example, I get some newsletters and want to keep portions of them, but
 delete all the advertizing. I got hooked on doing this in OL2002 and
 was wondering if you can do anything like that with The Bat! ?

 You can, but you have to select it, export it, edit it, and reimport
 it. Select the message you want to edit, go to Tools, then Export
 message. Export it as a .msg file. Open the file in notepad, edit as
 you wish, close and save. Then go back to Tools - Import message,
 select From .msg/.eml. Find your email again, and import. You can then
 delete the original one.

Hmmm ... or I just tried creating a new message and cut/paste the
interesting text into that, then saving it and moving it to the
appropriate folder. I can see by these two methods how to do what I
want, so thank you very much for your help!

Two more questions! (Thanks for your patience!) ...

Is there a zoom function to make a the pane that has the focus take
up the whole window?

And, I see that when I'm navigating through a thread, the highlighting
in the message list pane doesn't move. Should it? I had expected it to
move every time I moved to a new message.

Thanks!
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Re: Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello Paul,

Monday, November 25, 2002, 10:10:20 PM, you wrote:

 Hello David,

 Monday, November 25, 2002, 9:50:55 PM, you wrote:

DG New question -- can you edit an message you've downloaded? For
DG example, I get some newsletters and want to keep portions of them, but
DG delete all the advertizing. I got hooked on doing this in OL2002 and
DG was wondering if you can do anything like that with The Bat! ?

 Just highlight the text you want to save, right click, and do a Copy
 to operation and the highlighted text will go to a file.

 Or, do a Save As operation and the whole message will be saved to a
 file and you can edit it later.

Tried 'em both, works great! Thx...
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Re[2]: Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello Thomas,

Monday, November 25, 2002, 10:32:30 PM, you wrote:

 And, I see that when I'm navigating through a thread, the
 highlighting in the message list pane doesn't move. Should it? I
 had expected it to move every time I moved to a new message.

 No, the focus on the message list in the main window doesn't move when
 you move the focus on the message list in a folder view window. This
 is on purpose. You can also have several folder view windows open for
 the same folder, each with a different focus.

Cool! Hadn't thought of that, but quite handy for a busy mailing list!
Different paradigm than I'm used to, but probably a lot more powerful
once I get the hang of it...

Thanks!
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Re[3]: Any newbie help file?

2002-11-25 Thread David Goggin
Hello Mary,

 The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board

 http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com

Just what I was looking for ... thanks a million!
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Re[2]: Tuning up: a standard template for replying to TBUDL posts

2002-11-05 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Thomas:

Thank you for this. I'll tune it up now.


David



TF Hello David,

TF On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:41:31 -0500 GMT (04/11/02, 05:41 +0700 GMT),
TF David R. Austen wrote:

DH -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return))
 Best regards,

 I hope this is fine. Thank you very much for your able coaching.

 --
 Best regards,

 David   

TF It should be dashdashspaceenter. You left out the space at the
TF end.

TF To see the difference, hit the reply key on your message (everything
TF below this cut mark is still copied into the reply) and mine (the
TF reply is cut at the cut mark).




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Re[2]: sorry about the top-post

2002-11-03 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Thomas:

Thank you very much. Your instructions were very clear -- and I broke
new ground today creating a special TBUDL Reply template that guards
against inadvertent top-posting.

Here it is, from TBUDL in my address book:


Hello, %OFromFName:

Best regards,

%FromFName


Best wishes,

David



Sunday, November 03, 2002, 12:58:40 AM, you wrote:
TF Hello David,

TF On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:30:20 -0500 GMT (02/11/02, 19:30 +0700 GMT),
TF David R. Austen wrote:

 This suggests I might want to create a special procedure for all
 replies to messages on this list.

TF If you do not use any special AB templates (and do not create folder
TF templates, which should be used in special circumstandes only), TB
TF will use the account templates. These contain the cut mark (a.k.a.
TF signature delimiter) already, so you don't really need to do anything
TF if you don't want to.

 Please, where do I start?

TF What I did, I created an addressbook entry for this list.

TF Addressbook icon / Create a new contact icon.

TF I filled in only two fields on the first tab:
TF Display name as: TBUDL
TF Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TF (no quote marks, in both cases).

TF This is how you create a new entry. Now you want to create a special
TF template for replying to this list. You go to the Reply tab (still in
TF the addressbook), click opn [x] Use a specific and put your
TF template in there. It is blank now, so to start with, you can cp your
TF account template into it.

TF The account's reply template you'll find under Account / Properties /
TF Templates (click on the +) / Reply.

 (I know. This is a Bat101 question of course. I should know better.
 Just a couple of quick hints on strategy, please.)

TF The above should give you an idea. This is list is Bat101. Please
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2002-11-03 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Dierk:

Sunday, November 03, 2002, 11:52:24 AM, you wrote:
DH Hello David!

DH On Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 5:39:09 PM you wrote:

DH the template below

DH Let`s refine that a little bit ((comments in double breaks)):

 Hello, %OFromFName:
DH   ((^ Why that?))

DH %QUOTES ((that puts the message you reply to in your reply))

DH %CURSOR ((putting you one line beneath the quoted material))
DH ((don`t forget to manually edit the citation))

DH -- ((this is two dashes then a space followed by a Return))
 Best regards,

 %FromFName


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Re[3]: sorry about the top-post

2002-11-02 Thread David R. Austen
Friday, November 01, 2002, 7:07:06 PM, you wrote:

TM The one you want to watch out for is the 'Cut' mark. I think that is
TM part of the list rules... :-]

(snip)

Hello, all:


This suggests I might want to create a special procedure for all
replies to messages on this list.

Please, where do I start?


(I know. This is a Bat101 question of course. I should know better.
Just a couple of quick hints on strategy, please.)


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Re[2]: Problem sharing a mailbox

2002-10-31 Thread David Cantatore
Hi

Well, I have tried everything and came out with the conclusion TB is
the culprit. I have tested the mailbox sharing with my own mail server
and get the same erratic behaviour, i.e. multiple downloads of all the
messages in the mailbox. I can't reproduce the problem with another
mail client.

This is clearly a bug to my eyes! What can I do?

Thanks in advance,
DC

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Friday, October 18, 2002, 5:59:47 PM, you wrote:

Peter Palmreuther Hi David,

Peter Palmreuther On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:04:17 +0200
Peter Palmreuther David Cantatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A few questions.  Is everyone of them using TB? And if so, do all
 copies of TB show the same behaviour? In the latter case you could
 try to ask the ISP about changes in the server.

 They all use TB and the ISP maintains the problem isn't on their side
 (which I believe). 

Peter Palmreuther Why do you belive that?
Peter Palmreuther The reason why I'm asking is: the 'leave messages on server and do 
not
Peter Palmreuther download them a second time' is such a simple function there can't 
be
Peter Palmreuther mayn things wrong. I'll try to explain it in short words:

Peter Palmreuther 1.) TB! connects to the Mail server and asks for a list of so called
Peter Palmreuther 'UID's. The POP3-command for this purpose is 'UIDL' (Unique ID
Peter Palmreuther List).
Peter Palmreuther 2.) Assuming TB! hasn't downloaded any message before it now 
fetches all
Peter Palmreuther messages and writes the UIDs of messages fetched to a local 
file.
Peter Palmreuther 3.) Next time TB! connects it fetches the UIDs again, compares them 
with
Peter Palmreuther the local list and fetches only the messages not in the local
Peter Palmreuther UID-list.

Peter Palmreuther The UID is calculated and generated by the mail server, TB! has in 
no
Peter Palmreuther way any influence on this UID generation process. Therefore if such 
a
Peter Palmreuther scenario, as you describe, _suddenly_ happens _AND_ the The Bat! 
version
Peter Palmreuther has _not_ changed there are two possibilities:

Peter Palmreuther 1.) TB! suddenly is not capable to handle the UID file correctly. 
Have a
Peter Palmreuther look at the account dir for a file called: 'ACCOUNT.M_R'. This file
Peter Palmreuther contains the UIDs. Is it empty? Seems TB! is the culprit. Not? 
What's
Peter Palmreuther it's last modification time? Long ago? Maybe TB! is the culprit. It 
was
Peter Palmreuther just modified lately? Chances are high the server does something
Peter Palmreuther unusual.

Peter Palmreuther 2.) The server has changed, maybe a minor upgrade of POP3 daemon 
and now
Peter Palmreuther calculates the UIDs on a basis that does not provide the same
Peter Palmreuther result on every run. Maybe the UID generator uses file 
modification
Peter Palmreuther time of mbox file / maildir and that time might change as the 
mail
Peter Palmreuther box is touched every time you fetch your mail.
Peter Palmreuther This can proven _only_ by doing some low level stuff, namely: 
doing
Peter Palmreuther multiple telnet sessions and sending POP3 commands manually to
Peter Palmreuther compare the results the server gives on one picky message.

Peter Palmreuther I for myselft wouldn't trust the ISP this fast only because he 
tells the
Peter Palmreuther problem ain't on their side ... Hey, THIS is the fastest way for 
him to
Peter Palmreuther get rid of that problem: telling it's you and let the work be done 
by
Peter Palmreuther you or live with the problem.

Peter Palmreuther If _nothing_ changed on TB! side why should it 'out of a sudden' 
start
Peter Palmreuther behaving incorrectly? On _four independent_ machines, everywhere 
with
Peter Palmreuther the same symptoms. You'd have to misconfigure _all four system_ the
Peter Palmreuther _same way_ ... quite hard to believe :-)



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Re[3]: Problem sharing a mailbox

2002-10-31 Thread David Cantatore
Please forgive me, we have found out where the problem lies: not in
TB! The problem comes from the fact the ISP uses 3 e-mail servers for
load balancing, so 4 ppl accessing the same account simultaneously causes
havoc in the UIDL generation process.

I now have to check if the same thing happens if I set my client up
with an internal mail server.

Cheers,
DC

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Thursday, October 31, 2002, 2:30:12 PM, you wrote:

David Cantatore Hi

David Cantatore Well, I have tried everything and came out with the conclusion TB is
David Cantatore the culprit. I have tested the mailbox sharing with my own mail server
David Cantatore and get the same erratic behaviour, i.e. multiple downloads of all the
David Cantatore messages in the mailbox. I can't reproduce the problem with another
David Cantatore mail client.

David Cantatore This is clearly a bug to my eyes! What can I do?

David Cantatore Thanks in advance,
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Re[3]: very ot: what antivirus program?

2002-10-30 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Barry2 and all:

I am successfully using Norton Anti-Virus and ChoiceMail (to catch
spam) with The Bat. NAV quarantines a worm or virus about once a day.

Only disappointment is that the NAV subscription price seems to have
(virtually) gone through the roof over the past year. Perhaps because
I just had to buy a whole new product from Norton, NAV 2002.

Your experiences with NAV anybody?


Best regards,

David   


Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 2:05:17 PM, you wrote:
B Hello Melissa,

B Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 8:52:23 AM, you wrote:



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Re: how to setup and use the bat! with x-ray mail assistant

2002-10-22 Thread David Elliott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Simon

On 22 October 2002 at 21:17:14 +0100 (which was 21:17 where I live) Simon
wrote

 ... 

 * X-Ray local SMTP = 25 REMOTE SMTP = 26
 * X-Ray local POP = 110 REMOTE POP = 111

Erm it is best to use a non standard port for local ports and standard ports
for remote ports.

And I would not use port 111 as it is a known port.

info from services file.

service name  port number/protocol  [aliases...]   [#comment]
sunrpc111/tcprpcbind portmap#SUN Remote Procedure Call
sunrpc111/udprpcbind portmap#SUN Remote Procedure Call

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Problem sharing a mailbox

2002-10-16 Thread David Cantatore


Hi all,

Here's the situation: I have a group of 4 people (a small company) who
share a common address with the same username. I can't create aliases
on the server, and the solution of forwarding all the mails from the
main account to their personal ones isn't a possibility. TB! is
configured to leave the messages on the server for 2 weeks so they all
get the same e-mails, regardless of what each person does in its own
inbox.

It'd been working well for a couple of months, but now the problem is
TB sees the old messages on the server as new and downloads them, even
though they're already in TB's inbox on each workstation. If they use
the kill dupes function, the messages are downloaded again!

What should I configure to stop this behaviour? Given the volume of
e-mails these ppl get, it's become a major problem.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-04 Thread David Pascoe

Hi Thomas,

On Friday, 4 October 2002, at 13:23:54 [GMT +0700] you wrote:

TF On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:58:29 -0400 GMT (04/10/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT),
TF Paul Cartwright wrote:

PC well, I have noticed a LOT more Porn and SPAM in my yahoo account
PC lately, it does seem to have escalated since I joined spamcop, BUT it
PC could just be the fact that my Yahoo account is ancient and I use it on
PC the web for STUFF...

TF I do not confirm that the number of spam has increased since I report
TF to SpamCop. I cannot confirm either that is has decreased though...

You will not notice a reduction in SPAM if you only report it to spamcop.

If you use their fixed priced _filtered_email_ service then you will get a
90%+ reduction in spam. The reporting sends LARTs, and populates the
blocking list, but won't go anyway to reduce the amount of SPAM you get.

BTW SpamCop has made my email useable again, it is an excellent service.

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Re[2]: Sharing Filters

2002-10-03 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 9:27:00 PM, you wrote:

snip

TF I would be insterested in knowing what you intend to do. If you think
TF the filtering system is not very easy, it is a good time forofficial
TF suggestion, because the developers are completely revamping the
TF filtering system for v2. There are no news about what will be changed
TF though, but I hope a few of my suggestions will find their way into
TF it. ;-)

And where do those official suggestions go?

For something as powerful as TB and the filtering process, i find it
funny (well .. err :-) that some, what seem to me, intuitive features
are missing.  The two biggest, off the top of my head, are Shared
Filters and Single Creation of Filter for both IN and OUT

Shared Filter Example:
Spam is Spam is Spam .. Thanks to some lists I am on I get offers to
increase the size of just about everything .. and them offers to
reduce .. to me a single filter to cover all accounts (with optional
switch to turn off) is in order.

IN/OUT Filter Example:
I have an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I want to
have a folder for all correspondence to/from SpadeDetectiveAgency.com

Go into create filters and at that point i have to say if I am
creating and inni or outti.  It would seem to me that it should be
possible to define this in one place.  If I receive from or send to ..
put the mail here.

As for what I am going to do .. for right now I will work on figuring
out the format of the Filter record (why oh why do developers like to
use char 0?) and once I feel comfortable with the format I will work
on a) a *shared filter* creator .. for TB that would mean a copy
samething everywhere b)way to define a filter for both in/out in one
place

Just some things to make my life easier G

Thanks for the note ..




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Sharing Filters

2002-10-02 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Is there any way to share filters between accounts?

There are several filters which I want in all accounts but do I really
have to create these in each account?

Where are the filters saved?  what 'dos' file



  

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Re[2]: Sharing Filters

2002-10-02 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Hello Miguel,

Thanks for the reply on copying filters ..

Do you know where the Filters are stored?



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Re[2]: Sharing Filters

2002-10-02 Thread David Tod Sigafoos

Hello Thomas,

DTS Do you know where the Filters are stored?

TF In the files account.srx in your mail directories.

Thanks .. I had though I looked there sigh

Guess i will have to write an app to maintain these a little easier


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Re: Test Message

2002-09-18 Thread David Elliott

User Roelof Otten  failed test :)
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Re: Now here's an odd one?

2002-09-12 Thread David Cohen

Hello Thomas,

Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:40:20 AM, you wrote:

 I am using PC-Cillin.

Which version are you using?

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Re[2]: Inbox appears empty this morning

2002-09-11 Thread David R. Austen

Hello, all:


Tuesday, September 10, 2002, 2:47:20 PM, you wrote:
TF Hello David,

TF On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:04:43 -0400 GMT (10/09/02, 22:04 +0700 GMT),
TF David R. Austen wrote:

DRA Yesterday, I had a few problems with my system (Win98SE) and scan disk
DRA ran once or twice. When I powered up this morning the Bat's Inbox was
DRA completely empty. No other folder seems to have been affected;

TF I don't know whether Scandisk has the ability to make files disappear.
TF However, I had this problem once with a folder, and it turned out that
TF one message contained a virus - I had just updated my virus software
TF and the virus hadn't been caught before. PC-Cillin put the whole .tbb
TF file in quarantine.

TF

TF Check whether this was the case.

OK.

I see many files were quarantined by NAV at 22:25 yesterday. NAV is
pretty active because it checks all e-mail, but this high number seems
quite unusual.

Still, the number is much smaller than the number of messages that are
missing. But you are suggesting I might just find one large file in
quarantine, eh? They are all numbered quarantined files (not named) so
I suppose it is difficult to ID them. Perhaps I could attempt repairs.

If I do a repair and restore, I suppose only **Inbox** will be
affected by restoring messages.tbi .tbb?


Thank you, Thomas, Roelof.



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Re[2]: Inbox appears empty this morning

2002-09-11 Thread David R. Austen

Good morning, all:


Tuesday, September 10, 2002, 3:06:24 PM, Roelof wrote:
RO Hallo David,

RO Op dinsdag 10 september 2002, 19:06:28, schreef David R. Austen:

 I then renamed (and so hid) messages(no file extension). When the
 Bat restarted it did create another file with the name, messages.
 But that is also now still empty.

RO There ought to be two of those messages files, one with a tbi
RO extension and one with a tbb extension. If your explorer is set to
RO don't show extensions it should say something like TBB file in the
RO 'file-type' column.

Yes, it did and does show the file type. Cheers.

RO (I'm using a Dutch Windows version, so I'm
RO guessing about the English)

RO However, the only places where your messages can be within TB are the
RO messages.tbb and the Trash folder. Since you didn't mention trash, I
RO suppose there wasn't an extraordinary amount of messages.

Yes, good idea. I have now checked Trash and it seems quite normal -
just a few messages put there each day, and not those hundreds of
September messages that are now missing.

RO Therefore
RO the only place should be messages.tbb. My inbox contains about 150
RO undeleted and 900 deleted messages (that's why regularly compressing
RO is a good idea) and is about 22 MB.

Mine is 2.03 mb, this morning. (That's normal for just 1.5 days of
messages)

RO What's the size of your messages.tbb file (also the renamed one) that
RO ought to give you an idea about the number of messages, not counting
RO large attachments.

I found no .tbb file yesterday morning when I discovered my Inbox
empty. I then made a copy of the existing .tbi file (17kb). Now there
are two new files (tbi, tbb), and I am still receiving mail normally.

 Your question: If I am not mistaken, I have kept the Inbox set to
 compress the Inbox folder each time I quit The Bat. But I do not
 regularly compress the *other* mail folders.

RO Compressing the inbox on exit is a must, you can see that on mine. (I
RO do compress on exit) But you should consider it for all folders that
RO regularly have messages deleted.

OK. And my Inbox is still set to compress.

 Any other ideas about finding those hundreds of Inbox messages?

RO Scandisk creates file.chk ( is a four digit number) files in
RO the root when finding errors on a disk. You could try opening those.
RO When they're containing messages you'd see that soon enough, since TB
RO doesn't encode it's message base.

Finally, looking at Windows 98SE recycle bin, I see messages.tbi files
there three times. Once at 12:53 yesterday. Of course, I would never
put any messges files in recycle. I wonder what has happened 3x.

I appreciate your kind assistance here.


Best regards,

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Inbox appears empty this morning

2002-09-10 Thread David R. Austen

Greetings, all:

Yesterday, I had a few problems with my system (Win98SE) and scan disk
ran once or twice. When I powered up this morning the Bat's Inbox was
completely empty. No other folder seems to have been affected; other
folders located beneath Inbox in the hierarchy are fine. I am also
able to successfully POP new mail this morning.

Refresh makes no difference. Can anybody suggest a plan to recover
that mislaid mail? I imagine it will be important to first isolate
the most recent e-mail (today's) before I go much further.


Thank you in advance,



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Re: Stops Picking Up Mail ...

2002-08-30 Thread David Want

Hello Shane,

Hi,
I am evaluating TB! and this was the first problem I found.

SRM This is an old subject, but since I haven't seen anything about it in
SRM awhile, I figured I'd give it another go.

I am using TB! 1.61 and W2000

 SRM Sometimes... Out of nowhere ... The Bat just stops picking up mail.
SRM Something INTERNAL hangs.  NO visible issues - just a strange absence
SRM of mail.  Shut down THE BAT, and you get the message similar to There
SRM are still operations in progress.  Want to exit when they are
SRM finished?  Neither response allows you exit.  Killing THE BAT task is
SRM the only way out.

I went back and viewed the archive and Ross West had some good ideas
that saved me a lot of time. I am using Zone Alarm and found that most
of the problems were due to the mail being blocked. I set the mail
server name to the trusted zone, no effect. I then entered the server
IP instead of the name for TB! and all started to work reliably, I
thought. (Although I now can pick up mail on schedule Ross, IIRC, said
this wasn't an ideal solution. Any thoughts?)
Then I got a similar message to the one above and a hang (but it is
very intermittent). I will continue to monitor it.
I am also evaluating Eudora and it doesn't have any problems with ZA,
but I do prefer The Bat!

Just some observations from a brand new user.
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Re: TBUDL Digest and attached messages

2002-08-29 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello David,

On Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 18:39:58 +0200, you wrote concerning
'TBUDL Digest and attached messages':
...
 So it seems that the digest information is causing TB! to fail to
 extract the .msg files from the message.

I have to correct myself here. It's not the digest information causing
TB! to fail to extract the .msg files from the message, but it's
because there are _two_ different boundaries in each digest message.
If I change the message, so that there is just one boundary, the
filter extracts the .msg files just fine.

I'm no expert on RFC's and MIME so can somebody tell me if this is
incorrect MIME-coding or just a bug from TB!. Because it's not really
necessary to use two different boundaries. The message displays just
fine with only one. And secondly, if I create such a message in TB!
(with multiple .msg files attached), TB! also uses only one boundary.

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Re: TBUDL Digest and attached messages

2002-08-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Januk,

On Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 22:08:36 -0700, you wrote concerning
'TBUDL Digest and attached messages':
...
 It looks ok to me. The only thing I would add is the wait for
 program to complete option when executing the command-line.

Ok. I'll add in my filter.

 But to solve the more basic problem, are we sure that the digests
 have the messages attached as .msg files and not .eml files? I don't
 have a copy of the digest to check myself.

The message attached are indeed .msg files. I'll send you a copy of a
digest message.

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Re: TBUDL Digest and attached messages

2002-08-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Januk,

On Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at 22:08:36 -0700, you wrote concerning
'TBUDL Digest and attached messages':
...
 But to solve the more basic problem, are we sure that the digests
 have the messages attached as .msg files and not .eml files? I don't
 have a copy of the digest to check myself.

I did some further testing about this and I discovered the following:

When I look at a digest message with source view (F9) I see the
following:

,- [ Example of a digest message ]
| ... (Headers)
|
| Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0090014590641842585==
|
| ... (Some more headers)
| 
| --===0090014590641842585==
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| Content-Description: TBUDL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2
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|1. Problem with selective downloads (David Scarlett)
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|3. Re[2]: Automatically mark all as read in a folder once viewed
|   option (Ben Kennish)
|4. Re[2]: alt + F12, shortcut editor (Alaeddin Muntasser)
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|6. RE: storage (Daniel Morton)
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|(=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jernej_Simon=E8i=E8?=)
| 
| --===0090014590641842585==
| Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary27719984337738124==
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| 
| --===27719984337738124==
| Content-Type: message/rfc822
| MIME-Version: 1.0
|
| First message. An so on.
'-

As you can see the message contains two times the line Content-Type:.
But with two different boundaries. Now when I delete the whole digest
text and replace the boundary from the headers with the boundary from
the digest messages (with a text editor). And then import it back in
TB! and apply the filter, the filter works.

So it seems that the digest information is causing TB! to fail to
extract the .msg files from the message.

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Problem with selective downloads....

2002-08-27 Thread David Scarlett

Hi,

I'm trying to set up a selective download filter to block anything
written in Korean (as 90% of my spam is).

I'm using these settings:
Detect by - Entire header
Action - Kill
Detection Method - Match any string as a regular expression

And I've tried a lot of different regexps, such as the following, but
mail with headers that shouldn't have been allow through still get
through.

Content-[Tt]ype:\s*text/html;\s*charset=?(euc-kr|[kK][sS]_[cC]_5601-1987)?
(?i:Content-Type:\s*text/html;\s*charset=?(euc-kr|ks_c_5601-1987)?)
(?i:Content-Type:[\s;/\w]*charset=?(euc-kr|ks_c_5601-1987)?)
euc-kr
ks_c_5601-1987


Thanks in advance,

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Re: TBUDL Digest and attached messages

2002-08-27 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Januk,

On Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 23:08:23 -0700, you wrote concerning
'TBUDL Digest and attached messages':
...
 A reminder, this can be automated by a filter. The filter just needs
 to export attachments to a temporary directory, and it needs to run
 an external command. Both of these are available under the Actions
 Tab

Because I'm temporary back on a dail-up connection and because of the
possibility to receive MIME-digest I changed my membership to (MIME)
digest.

I was trying to make a filter to extract the .msg attachments to my
TBUDL as you suggested. But I can't get the filter to extract the .msg
files to a specified directory.

If I test it with a test message with .msg files attached, it works
flawlessly. But it doesn't work for the TBUDL-digest message.

What I'm I doing wrong?

BTW this is the filter (maybe someone else can post a working filter):

,- [ TBUDL-Digest filter ]
| BeginFilter
| Name: TBUDL-Digest
| Active: 1
| Source: \\David\Inbox
| Target: \\David\Inbox
| CopyFolder: none
| MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Actions: faExternal,faExtractFiles
| AddGroups: 
| DelGroups: 
| ForwardTemplate: 
| ConfirmTemplate: 
| ReplyTemplate: 
| FwdAddr: 
| RedirectAddr: 
| NewAddr: 
| NewTemplate: 
| ExtCmd: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe 
|/importu=David;F=Mailinglists\TB!\TBUDL;I=C:\tmp\Mail\*.msg;DEL
| ExtFile: 
| ExtractDir: C:\tmp\Mail
| ColourGroup: default
| AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
| DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
| HotKey: 0
| IsOfColour: default
| SizeBigger: 0
| SizeSmaller: 0
| AgeOlder: 0
| AgeNewer: 0
| InAddrPos: 0
| OutAddrPos: 0
| InAddrGroups: 
| NoAddrGroups: 
| KillFile: 
| KillMethod: 0
| SaveTemplate: 
| SndFile: 
| SysSound: 0
| SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
| AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
| EndFilter
| 
'-

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Re: The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library

2002-08-12 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Allie,

On Sunday, August 11, 2002 at 08:21:39 -0500, you wrote concerning
'The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library':
...
 I learnt the hard way when I provided the mailto link for my PGP
 public key. :(

Oh that's probably the reason that I receive spam on my
mailinglist-only addresses and even tbudlist-only addresses. :(
I always wondered why I received spam on this addresses.

Until a few months ago I used to sign my messages too with PGP and I
also provided my mailto link in the PGP signature. I think I'll remove
it right away.

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problems installing new(ish) versions

2002-08-03 Thread David Pascoe

Hello TBUDL,

I have found that on my win98 se2 machine I cannot install any of the more
recent versions than 1.60c. The the_bat.exe just hour glasses for a couple
of seconds and then nothing. The same for the intpack.exe

I have tried uninstalled norton anti virus and even updated to the latest
msi (Microsoft Installer engine) [not believing that TB! would need it of
course] and still nothing.

any ideas ?

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Re: test #1, please ignore

2002-07-31 Thread David Elliott

User Bernd Gauweiler failed ignore test.



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Re: Phew!

2002-07-21 Thread David Elliott

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Adam

On 21 July 2002 at 19:12:29 +0100 (which was 19:12 where I live) Adam Rykala
graced us with these comments

 ... 

 ...electronic mail sent to a large number of recipients

define [a large number of recipients]

Is it 10, 100, 1000. They have put a number to it for a good reason.

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very OT Re: Well off topics

2002-07-18 Thread David Elliott

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Greetings Michael

On 17 July 2002 at 18:27:16 +0100 (which was 18:27 where I live) Michael
Thompson wrote

 I am using WinXP Professional and every once in a while I am unable to
 delete some directorys, rename them etc. I get the Message that it may be
 in use by another process or user.

This is an old NT bug usually it is where a program has crashed and has left
it's hooks into a file the only way i have found is to reboot. :)

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5bdFynDGfruG4wQv5QX35/2K
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Re: Launch Failure

2002-07-17 Thread David R. Austen

Hello, Curt:


This won't help you now, but I notice that my local computer retailer
has stern warning for all who walk up to the counter.

They say there are numerous SW problems due to XP issues and that they
will not offer any SW support for boxes running XP. Even when they
have sold the box and software installed. It is a very generalized
warning.


Best regards,


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Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:46:23 PM, you wrote:
C A bug report failed to get a response, so I'll see if anyone here has
C had this problem--and a solution:

C TheBat! refuses to launch under WinXPpro. The splash screen displays,
C TheBat! appears in the task bar, but both disappear after a few
C seconds, and TheBat! never completely starts. I had reinstalled 1.60c, installed 
1.60q--all with no
C improvement.

C Once was I would have this problem now and the--rebooting always
C solved it. Now it's a solid problem.

C Any ideas?

C TIA...

C Curt


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Re: Strange File Extensions in Attachments

2002-07-10 Thread David Elliott

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Sudip

On 10 July 2002 at 15:41:32 +0545 (which was 10:56 where I live) Sudip
Pokhrel wrote

   what you reckon is the problem here?

I suspect that received these files from a MAC user.

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Re: Backup capability kudos

2002-07-10 Thread David Shepherd




Wednesday, July 10, 2002, 5:02:31 PM, you wrote:

 I would like to congratulate The Bat!'s team on the backup capability.
 I just used it for the first time, and I find it positively
 delightful.

I have to agree with you on this one.  It's one of the reasons why I
choose to go with The Bat!  I always mention it when referring others to The Bat!

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Re: NOD BAV

2002-07-10 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Joseph,

On Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 11:14:57 -0500, you wrote concerning
'NOD BAV':
...
 I have version 0.1 of the NOD BAV. What is the address, if there is
 one, where I can check to see whether/when a new version is
 released?

The only place I can think of is the Ritlabs ftp-site:
ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Nod32.BAV

 (Also, is it correct that the configure button should not be
 available? Mine is grayed out, but the plug-in seems to work just
 fine.)

Sorry, can't help you here. I don't use NOD.

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Re: PGP/MIME

2002-07-10 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Damian,

On Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 10:45:05 -0400, you wrote concerning
'PGP/MIME':
...

I got a bad signature from your PGP-signed message:

***[11/07/02 1:32:54] PGP Signature Status: bad
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Hash: RIPEMD160
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Signer: Damian Gerow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Signer Key ID: 0xAB3CB475
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Signer Key Fingerprint: AB6E 29C5 6B67 9744 08FF  0654 3268 5618 
AB3C B475
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Signer Key Status: Invalid
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Signed: 10/07/02 17:45:15
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] Verified: 11/07/02 1:32:54
***[11/07/02 1:32:54] BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

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Re: Very ot: how do i pause lists

2002-07-06 Thread David Elliott

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Marck

On 06 July 2002 at 11:29:00 +0100 (which was 11:29 where I live) Marck D
Pearlstone thoughtfully wrote the following

 ... 

 I found this resource on the net for anyone wanting more information:
 http://www.mccmedia.com/html/listar_commands.html.

Or you could always go Special | maining list | Get help, and send the
message, you receive a reply from the listbot.  :)

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Re: OT: anyone else having problems fetching Pgp CKT?

2002-07-05 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Krister,

On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 15:17:44 +0200, you wrote concerning 'OT:
anyone else having problems fetching Pgp CKT?':
...
 Everytime i click on the quick ckt downloads button after having
 selected what i wanted to download from the dropdown menu i got an 404 page not 
found and
 sometimes other strange errors. What gives here?

Use this link for version 6.5.8 ckt build 09 beta 3:
http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~irfaiad/3773e80fb1501abc7fbac00244ba46f2/pgp658ckt09b3.rar

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Re[2]: Help - missing messages!

2002-07-05 Thread Michael David

Hi Tim!

I  didn't  realize  there  was  a newer version. Perhaps my problem is
related to the version I am running?

I  really  want  to figure out what caused this. If it's just a random
loss of email, I don't see how I can risk continuing with TB.

Perhaps  someone  from Rit Labs could chime in here? Any theories what
caused this?

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Friday, July 5, 2002, 7:49:57 AM, you wrote:

 Hey Michael,

 My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60h) Personal' was used
 to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on Thursday, July 4, 2002 at 10:04:13 AM.

MD I  really  like  TB so much better than Outlook, but I just can't
MD keep using it if it is going to randomly make email disappear like
MD this. :(

 I have been using it for 4-5 years, and have not lost a message by
 accident yet...  Any reason you are running 'h' instead of the current
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Re[2]: Help - missing messages!

2002-07-04 Thread Michael David

Hi Roelof!

 Try to select the folder and select in the menu folder - browse
 deleted messages.
 Or as a second option delete the messages.tbi of the folder you think
 they should be in.

I tried both - no luck.

 Only if you've got purge options set. (max days or max msgs)

I don't have either set - for ANY folder.

 Check any backups you've made. When they're so important you should
 make backups of your messagebase, just like all of your other user
 data.

You  are  right,  of  course.  Unfortunately,  my last backup was just
before the missing messages. :(

I  really  like  TB so much better than Outlook, but I just can't keep
using it if it is going to randomly make email disappear like this. :(

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Help - missing messages!

2002-07-03 Thread Michael David

Hi Folks!

Suddenly  I  am  missing  about  a months worth of sent messages (very
important!)  between  mid-may  and mid-June@ I've searched through all
folders,  including  the trash (which I haven't emptied in months) and
they are gone - and I know I didn't delete or move them!

Is  it  possible  that  they are still in the message base, and I just
need to rebuild the index somehow?

I have this sent items folder to compress automatically on exit. Could
that have caused this?

Any ideas? I am really screwed without these messages!


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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-28 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Jonathan

On 27 June 2002 at 15:00:35 -0500 (which was 21:00 where I live) Jonathan
Angliss wrote

 personally I don't think that they would have noticed, banks being that
 inefficient.

 Depends on the duration of the outage... I normally spot an outage of
 about 30 seconds or more where I work... and if I'm not at home, a small
 program notifies me of an outage within 5 mins of it happening. Would have
 thought banks would have some kind of system to spot an outage...
 especially with the amount of data they deal with, and the security
 implications of such an outage.

I would be much the same, but the bank's ...

The collect noun for a group of Bankers is a wunch.

I have to deal with the IT infrastructure of the banks so i know how bad
they are.

ps do you know that your mail is going through a server (66.137.233.209)that
is on a black list at http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-28 Thread David Elliott

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Salutation Marck

On 27 June 2002 at 22:36:01 +0100 (which was 22:36 where I live) Marck D
Pearlstone graced us with these comments

I would have answered this myself earlier but I do have to speak to my
family sometime. :)

DE personally I don't think that they would have noticed, banks
DE being that inefficient.

 Bruhaha! I use Online Banking with three banks ... Maybe you need to
 switch banks? ;-)

 Erm ... no, David was talking of a PSP (Payment Service Provider) EFT
 conduit to the bank - the other side of the fence.

Correct.

 I have a sneaky feeling that this threaded was started by one of the TB
 Address History blunders

Yes. I put a new hard drive (40Gb) into my laptop and between the backup not
keeping every setting and me not setting the correct option. It was a whoops
on my part.

 and that the message about Priam and Minos (the intimate names of the
 servers that host silverstone.com, branstormsw.com, cavendish.com and some
 other sites) was supposed to have been a private mail g.

Yes it was supposed to be off list. (the names are changing and so are the
IP's.

 Still, it was interesting to some here :-).

:)

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Thomas

On 27 June 2002 at 00:24:19 +0700 (which was 18:24 where I live) Thomas F
might have written

 I cannot connect to the FAQ at all (Cannot find server - DNS error)

It is OK now. There was a connection down between BT and the ISP.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread David Elliott

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Greetings David

On 27 June 2002 at 19:23:55 +0100 (which was 19:23 where I live) David
Elliott wrote

 On 27 June 2002 at 00:24:19 +0700 (which was 18:24 where I live) Thomas F
 might have written

 I cannot connect to the FAQ at all (Cannot find server - DNS error)

 It is OK now. There was a connection down between BT and the ISP.

Just checked out Priam. It has been up and running all the time so it does
look like a connection problem between BT and Scotland.

Almost as good as last week with BT cutting the power at Stanstead Abbots in
Hertfordshire and cutting of Bank of Ireland/Euroconnex.

Minos has just arrived back in the office today. I will get it set up over
the next week and get the two servers shipped up to buck at the end of next
week.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread David Elliott

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Hello David

On 27 June 2002 at 20:23:51 +0100 (which was 20:23 where I live) David
Elliott might have written

whoops should have been off list.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Thomas

On 27 June 2002 at 01:37:28 +0700 (which was 19:37 where I live) Thomas F
emanated these words of wisdom

 Thanks. I can connect now and get the familiar blank page when IE says
 done. This time, the last lines were:

 TR id='text37' style='display:none'TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='34'nbsp;/TD
 TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='30'INPUT TYPE='Button'  VA

 You see, it breaks up in the middle of the line.

Humm, What is the URL ?

If it is http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html then I can get it
fine. I have also checked the page on the server and it is OK.

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Jonathan

On 27 June 2002 at 14:29:37 -0500 (which was 20:29 where I live) Jonathan
Angliss thoughtfully wrote the following

 lol... why am I not surprised? Bet Bank of Ireland were a little upset
 about that one.

personally I don't think that they would have noticed, banks being that
inefficient.

 Minos has just arrived back in the office today. I will get it set
 up over the next week and get the two servers shipped up to buck at
 the end of next week.

 If you're in dire need of a mirror, I have plenty of server space, and
 processing power.

No I don't need a mirror but thanks for the offer. I have a couple of
servers and I am in the process of moving them from one IPS to another who I
do some work for.

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Re: Mail downloading problems

2002-06-24 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Joyce

On 24 June 2002 at 18:10:00 +0200 (which was 17:10 where I live) Joyce Sala
thoughtfully wrote the following

 Does C:\Windows\temp\ still exist?
 Yes, with all the temp files it made from TB.

 Do you have write priviliges to that directory?
 Nope.

with out write privileges it can not write. :)

 Is there space available on the C: drive?
 Yep! 15GB free...

 Any ideas?

Do you have a Virus checker ?

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Re: Mail downloading problems

2002-06-24 Thread David Elliott

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Hail Marcus

On 24 June 2002 at 17:12:25 +0200 (which was 16:12 where I live) Marcus
Ohlström wrote and made these points

 I'm however a bit suspicious

So am I.

 C:\Windows\Temp is normally only found on Windows 9x systems and if I
 remember correctly you can not restrict access privileges on those
 systems. I might be wrong here, it's been a while since I last used
 Windows 9x.

Correct, and your are not wrong.

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Re: 1.60 broke????

2002-06-22 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Peter,

On Friday, June 21, 2002 at 16:37:35 +0200, you wrote concerning '1.60
broke':
...
DvZ It looks like the file isn't on the server of Ritlabs.

 It is, only the 'Matis - Bugtracker' seems to be buggy.

 Try this URL:

 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/files/tb/982-ACCOUNT.HIS

Thanks.

I wanted to do doing some testing with the account.his file so I
replaced mine with this file. I restarted TB! but the history input is
still the same as it was with my account.his file. I even replaced my
history.his file with this one but the same result. What am I doing
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Re: First post is a Thank You!

2002-06-22 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Mike,

On Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 23:03:13 -0400, you wrote concerning
'First post is a Thank You!':
...
 I still have some things to tweak, and my key request is not yet
 automatic. For now, I'm giving up on today with thanks to all.

There is one more thing you have to do. See your message I'm replying
to and have a look at the quotes. There is one line that has some bad
wrapping. That's probably because you have word wrapping enabled in
your PGP settings. It's better to disable this feature or set it at
the same length as TB! if you also use PGP for other programs.

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Re: First post is a Thank You!

2002-06-22 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Melissa,

On Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 09:02:25 -0700, you wrote concerning
'First post is a Thank You!':
...
 Just to be safe, I would recommend setting PGP's wrap *two
 characters greater than* TB!'s setting - not the same.

I stand corrected. I wasn't 100% sure about that, so thank you for
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Re: 1.60 broke????

2002-06-22 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Roelof,

On Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 17:31:03 +0200, you wrote concerning
'1.60 broke':
...
 BTW I've got no history.his on my computer. Is that something that
 belongs to common folders? (I don't use those either.)

I don't know where it's for, but when I load my history.his file in
UltraEdit it looks like it's the history of my search queries.

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Re: 1.60 broke????

2002-06-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Jonathan,

On Friday, June 21, 2002 at 21:50:44 -0500, you wrote concerning '1.60
broke':
...
 http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg40261.html

 Try that :)

Shouldn't Ritlabs fix this? Because when new users want to test TB!
and it shuts down the minute they try to enter something in the TO:
field, they might leave TB! right away.

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Re: 1.60 broke????

2002-06-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Marck,

On Friday, June 21, 2002 at 10:54:31 +0100, you wrote concerning '1.60
broke':
...
 Erm ... new users have empty history lists, so it doesn't happen to
 them. Another fix is to delete the existing history list.

O yes of course, I didn't think about that. ;-)

 The problem is a corrupt list, not a bug in the code (although the
 code should be robust enough to withstand the corruption, but that's
 not the point I'm making).

Maybe they should write a piece of code that would delete the history
file when it's corrupted, instead of closing the whole program.

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Re: 1.60 broke????

2002-06-21 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Paul,

On Friday, June 21, 2002 at 09:33:18 -0400, you wrote concerning '1.60
broke':
...
 The following NEW bug has been ADDED.

I wanted to test the account.his file but I when I try to download the
file I get the following error in my browser:

,- [ Error 404 - File Not Found ]
| File /404.shtml was not found.
| Please check the URL or report the error.
| Don't forget to mention missing document's URL.
'-

It looks like the file isn't on the server of Ritlabs.

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Re: My 2 cents

2002-06-19 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Roel,

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 23:39:17 +0200, you wrote concerning 'My
2 cents':
...
DvZ When I hear people complaining about spontaneous reboots the
DvZ first thing I think of is a hardware problem like for instance
DvZ overheating of the CPU or wrong DMA settings.

 or corrupt ram... which happened to me... twice :-(

Yes this could be the problem too. A very nice 'feature' of Win2k and
WinXP is that you won't get a blue screen like in Win9x when a system
failure occurs but the system automatically reboots.

You can disable this 'feature' by disabling it with; right-click on My
Computer / tab Advanced / Startup and Recovery / System failure /
Automatically reboot. Now you get those beautiful BSOD's when a system
failure occurs, but sometimes you can see what is wrong.

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Re: The Bat! 2.0

2002-06-18 Thread David Elliott

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Salutation --pb

On 18 June 2002 at 14:40:43 -0400 (which was 19:40 where I live) --pb
graced us with these comments

 but if you want to make a few bucks out of this program, you have to have
 a large audience.

That is called 'dumming it down'.

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Re: My 2 cents

2002-06-18 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello --pb,

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 16:49:35 -0400, you wrote concerning 'My
2 cents':
...
 Anyway, so in the cut  paste process, right click, left click,
 right click... BOOM! My computer reboots! Dammit! Why? No idea at
 all.

Was this a one time incident or is it reproducible and does it happen
when using other applications? Because this could be at least 10 other
problems having nothing to do with TB!.

When I hear people complaining about spontaneous reboots the first
thing I think of is a hardware problem like for instance overheating
of the CPU or wrong DMA settings.

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Re: Selecting Specific Browser

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hail Tim

On 15 June 2002 at 08:43:04 +0100 (which was 08:43 where I live) Tim
emanated these words of wisdom

 Is there any way of having TheBat! select a specific web browser to handle
 hyperlinks in e-mails?

The Bat! uses the default associations of your system. So if the default is
IE that is whet The Bat! uses.

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Re: Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Geoff

On 15 June 2002 at 07:57:50 +0100 (which was 07:57 where I live) Geoff Lane
emanated these words of wisdom

 The Mail Ticker won't stay put. I want it to appear just above the Task
 Bar, where I can see it but it doesn't prevent my from working. However,
 each time I log onto my computer, the Mail Ticker moves back to the centre
 of the screen.

 Is there a way to get the Mail Ticker to stay where I put it?

The position of the mail ticker is saved on exit of The Bat! into the
registry. There are are only two reasons that I can think of (I may be
wrong)

(1) The Bat! is not exiting properly

(2) You don't have write permission for the registry.

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Re: Mail Ticker

2002-06-15 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Geoff

On 15 June 2002 at 13:49:09 +0100 (which was 13:49 where I live) Geoff Lane
wrote and made these points

 I logged off as myself and logged on as Administrator, then repositioned
 the MT -- the settings stuck. When I logged back on as myself, the MT was
 at the position I left it while logged on as Administrator.

That i find strange.


 However, I'm now able to reposition the MT as any user and the setting
 only affects the current user.

That is what I expect. The settings are saved per user. I think that you can
find them under Hkey_Current_User\Sortware\RIT\TheBat!.










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Re: wish/bug list

2002-06-14 Thread David Elliott

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Greetings Jan

On 14 June 2002 at 12:16:26 -0400 (which was 17:16 where I live) Jan
Rifkinson rearranged electrons to get

MDP Log into the BugTraq. Look top-left of the screen. There's a drop down
MDP selector there. In the list is The Bat! Wishes or something like it.

 Well, yes. Actually its in the upper right hand corner now.

 The problem is that if I select Wish List  click 'switch' there is no
 entry point for a wish -- only for a bug. I guess that's what I was trying
 to say. I suppose I could enter a wish in the bug track list but that
 didn't seem right.

 Take a look  you'll see what I mean. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Enter a wish as a bug. It uses the same code to store both wishes and bugs

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Re: wish/bug list

2002-06-14 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Jonathan

On 14 June 2002 at 11:58:40 -0500 (which was 17:58 where I live) Jonathan
Angliss rearranged electrons to get

DE Enter a wish as a bug. It uses the same code to store both wishes and
DE bugs

 H... a bit weird but ok, I'll do it. Thanks.

 Certainly is an odd way of doing it... but I guess they just have one
 database on the other side, and a field that says wish or bug.

Yes. Rit labs use MantisBT which you can get from http://sourceforge.net/.
What they have done is open up a new project.

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Re: wish/bug list

2002-06-14 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Jonathan

On 14 June 2002 at 14:40:05 -0500 (which was 20:40 where I live) Jonathan
Angliss might have written

 I'll take a look at it some time... but most of the time, I write custom
 database/application stuff for things like that ;)

so do I, but I use a copy for project tracking. It took me less than 1/4
hour to set it up.

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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-10 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Ben,

On Monday, June 10, 2002 at 09:07:09 +0100, you wrote concerning 'The
Bat! Upgrades.':
...
 I have never understood this complaint of HTML messages.

I don't feel like going to debate about this, so if you want the pro's
and con's of HTML messages look in the archives. This topic has been
covered enough.

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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello ChristopherX,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 08:20:20 -0700 , you wrote concerning 'The
Bat! Upgrades.':
...
 1. Can there be a way of installing each upgrade as patch rather
 than as a whole new program and then offer the whole program
 separately? Being on a dial-up and with all the updates about at the
 moment, I think some people can benefit.

No. When there is a new version you can only download the whole
package or just the executable (from the beta site).

Talking about bandwidth: please don't post HTML-messages.

 2. When I installed the last upgrade, my registration key didn't
 work. Is there a way of installing the upgrade without causing key
 problems?

I never had problems with upgrading and my registration keys. AFAIK
when you upgrade nothing changes in the registry so I don't know how
this could happen.

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Re: Showing Flagged messages on Account tree

2002-06-07 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Thomas

On 07 June 2002 at 21:57:55 +0700 (which was 15:57 where I live) Thomas F
rearranged electrons to get

TF Also, I have parked messages in every single folder. Indicating
TF parked messages in the folder tree would defeat the purpose.

ACM What about me who has flagged messages in every folder? :-)

 Arrghhh... flagged over here means still needs to be replied to.
 Should we make the folder icon flaglets optional then? g

Sounds like you need a draft folder. :)

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Re: The Bat! Upgrades.

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Mark,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 09:54:24 -0700, you wrote concerning 'The
Bat! Upgrades.':
...
DvZ Talking about bandwidth: please don't post HTML-messages.

 Actually, I didn't realize you could do this with TB without
 explicitly attaching a file.

I didn't say you can did I? Because it's not possible with TB!.

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Re: 550 Error

2002-06-07 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello John,

On Friday, June 7, 2002 at 05:39:39 +1000, you wrote concerning '550
Error':
...
 Any idea what this error message from my isp means?

Following to this site it means the following:
(http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/smtp-intro.html)

  Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable [E.g., mailbox not
  found, no access]

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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-05 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Keith

On 04 June 2002 at 13:12:51 -0400 (which was 18:12 where I live) Keith
Hanlon emanated these words of wisdom

 I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it. I downloaded
 as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly the best. I was a
 Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay for Beta versions, and
 there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they don't want to fix. Oh well,
 their loss...

 My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like
 it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend?
 Maybe some filters or something?

either

(1) Filters go to http://download.work4theweb.com/Personal/ and look for a
file called spam.zip. I think that there are instructions in there, and I
can not remember who I got it from, so if they would like to own up!!

or

(2) SpamPal from http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/spampal/

It all depends on your needs.

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Re: Drafts

2002-06-01 Thread David Elliott

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Salutation Miguel

On 31 May 2002 at 22:59:45 +0200 (which was 21:59 where I live) Miguel A.
Urech graced us with these comments

 Another one is a message parked in the Outbox, is a message that has been
 completed but you don't want to send yet.

 Right. And one of the reasons for not wanting to send it yet may be that
 the message is not complete :)

and that is a draft.

I find that it is very dangerous not to have the ability to distinguish
between a message that is unfinished and one that is finished but not ready
to send.

It might be parked in the outbox for a number of different reasons my main
one is that I don't want to send the message yet but after an event or time
that I waiting for.

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Re: how to setup The Bat to use a proxy

2002-06-01 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Oliver

On 31 May 2002 at 22:44:46 +0100 (which was 22:44 where I live) Oliver
Antosch rearranged electrons to get

I have read the rest of the thread so this is more for information

 I use Proxy+

If it is the one from http://www.proxyplus.cz/ (which has been updated
recently) then the steps are as this.

(1) In the Proxy + admin go to Proxy Settings | Proxies | Mapped links

(2) Now you add 2 mapped links

(3) Choose TCP and a port e.g. 5025

(4) Next the target host for example smtp.gmx.de:25

(5) Choose TCP and a port e.g. 5110

(6) Next the target host for example pop3.gmx.de:110

(7) Next to alter your mail settings on The Bat! (or any other mail client)

(8) In The Bat! Account | Properties | Transport. Change the smtp server to
your proxy server adderss e.g. 192.168.0.1 and change the port number to
5025.

(9) In the same screen. Change the Mail server to your proxy server adderss
e.g. 192.168.0.1 and change the port number to 5110.

and that should be it.

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Re: Autocomplete

2002-05-31 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Ray,

On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 12:36:35 +0100, you wrote concerning
'Autocomplete':
...
 Is there a setting I should make somewhere so that autocomplete
 recognises text and always fills it in?

I have no problem with autocompleting multiple addresses. I just type
the first name and when it autocompletes the first address I hit 'End'
and ';' and type the second address.

But I think I know what your problem is. When the TO: line in the
editor is full and you add another address you can't see that it is
autocompleting because it's jumping back to the beginning of the TO:
line. So you can't see it's autocompleting but it is. I think it would
be better if TB! wouldn't jump back to the beginning of the line all
the time.

There is another way of adding a bunch of recipients with a few mouse
clicks though. When you are in the editor hit the icon far right in
the TO: line. A new window opens and you can add addresses from your
addressbook.

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Re: Drafts

2002-05-31 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Mark

On 31 May 2002 at 16:16:44 -0700 (which was 00:16 where I live) Mark Wieder
wrote

MAU If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft
MAU folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked
MAU (draft) or un-parked.

 1. Save as Draft.
 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox.
 3. Drag it to your Draft folder.
 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes.

and then it looses it parked status.

Now try to edit it :)

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Re: Drafts

2002-05-31 Thread David Elliott

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Dear Thomas

On 31 May 2002 at 02:00:23 +0700 (which was 20:00 where I live) Thomas F
wrote

 3. Drag it to your Draft folder.
 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes.

DE and then it looses it parked status.

 No matter. It won't get sent, as it is not in the Outbox.

True, but when you moved a parked message from one folder to anothe it
looses it's parked status.

DE Now try to edit it :)

 Hit Redirect. ;-)

and it will loose it's recipients. :(

 It's a draft, so it doesn't have a real recipient anyway.

Sorry but mine do.

e.g.

I have received an email with a number of recipients I hit [reply to all]
and start the message, I then find that I need more information I therefore
want to put it to draft. You fill in the rest. :)

 All my drafts are in the Keepers folder, which is a Common Folder, and
 have myself as the recipient.

I do feel sorry for you, as you have to remember who you need to send the
email too.

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