Re: Sorting by thread activity
Hi Nick, I had the same problem you describe, and the New Threads option fixed it. It would be nice if it had a more descriptive label... Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:25:03 PM, you wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get threads with recent activity to show as the bottom (sort by create date, ascending) of my message list. I found this item: https://ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=3376ACTION=TOPIC_SUBSCRIBE And have checked 'sort by created' with the option 'new thread sorting' enabled but still new messages for old threads appear way down(or up in my case) the list, where the original message came in. Can anyone help me out on this one? Thanks, -- Dougmailto:d...@higbyfamily.com ** TheBat! 4.1.11 on Windows Vista Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't set highlight colors on directory list
Hi Bat Users, I am frustrated because I can't seem to set the highlight colors in the folder navigation pane. These belong to color group Generic Group by default. In the attached image, you will see why I want to change it. The Beta folder is the one I am browsing in (inactive highlight), but you really have to squint to see the white/beige variation. (It is there, honest!) If I set the color settings for Generic Group, it has no effect, suggesting that even though these folders belong to Generic Group, they are getting their colors elsewhere. Yes, I know I can apply a different Color Group, but I spent 20 minutes the other day assigning a custom color group Folder to every folder I have. It worked great, but today for some reason, they are all set back to Generic Group again. I even tried changing themes, but they seem to have no effect on the highlight colors in the window, just the menus. Am I missing something, or is this a bug? -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on Windows Vista Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat insists on backing up to a non-existant drive.
Hello, Every day I have automated backup scheduled to go at noon on my lunch break. But it insists on sending the backup to F:\Voyager which doesn't exist. This seems to be a ghost from my past use of Voyager on a memory stick. I had backed that up and restored it to TheBat. Now, I have the following directory specified for the automated backup: C:\Users\Doug\AppData\Roaming\The Bat!\autobackup.tbk But it still gives me an error every time. I think it might be trying to do two backups. Maybe the path listed above is successful, and then it tries to do a different backup to Voyager. Anyway, I looked everywhere, in config and ini files and can't find where this path may be hiding. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! 4.0.24 on Windows Vista Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Achdut18, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 7:25:17 AM, you wrote: A After reading all of the posts on this subject, It seems to me that I A could do the following: download mail to either the laptop or the A desktop, but then use the synchronization feature of The Bat to make A sure that both machines have the same mail on their hard drives. A Would this also work to automatically copy to the laptop all of the A mail on the desktop, the first time I invoke synchronization on the A laptop? Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing this on a daily basis. It would be nice if it were possible to do this automatically over a network. The solution I have used for a long time was to use TheBat Voyager on a memory stick. I could carry it with me between work and home. I've stopped using Voyager for now until version 4 is released. Then I will probably continue with Voyager after I get the tiniest USB device I can find. Since I have a small laptop, I don't want something big sticking out the side of it. But Voyager is by far the best way to keep email with you no matter what machine you're on. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! 4.0.20 on Windows XP Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No way to purge unread messages in common folder
Hello, My Gmail account pulls in messages for the beta list for TheBat! Message count is over 5,000 and I have it set to keep *only* 300 messages. The messages are sorted and placed in a common folder: Lists TheBat! Beta The folder settings for Beta are set to Max stored messages = 300, and I even tried max keep messages = 30 days. But nothing will get rid of them if they are unread. For my Gmail account, I have checked the box that says Purge unread messages Is this a bug? -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.29 on Windows XP Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong time-stamp on mail received.
Robin, Thursday, November 15, 2007, 2:33:06 AM, you wrote: RA You can export those emails to a Unix mailbox format and then edit the RA date on the first line of each email. This line starts with the word RA From but is not followed by a colon, then has the sender and the RA received date and time. If edit the date and time and then re-import RA the messages, it will fix the problem. Thanks for the solution, I'll try that. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.8 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wrong time-stamp on mail received.
Hi, I discovered one of the disadvantages of using Voyager. Apparently I plugged it into a computer who's time was set two weeks in advance. Now I have all my emails sorted incorrectly with those on the top. Since the bat is connecting to the internet anyway, it would be nice if it could check with a timeserver before downloading the mail, and pop up a warning. Other than that, I don't think I have a way to fix the past problem, except I have changed sorting to creation date. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd
Hello Marek, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 6:00:06 PM, you wrote: MM new Microed which supports Unicode is underdevelopment and should be MM introduced in 4.x. Great news and a big incentive to upgrade! -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MicroEd
Hello TBudl, I much prefer using MicroEd text editor, but it doesn't do Unicode. I would love for this to be tweaked at some point so I can continue using it. I've had to abandon it for the Windows text editor instead. Does anyone else have these problems? -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarded message not marked
Hello MFPA, Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 7:21:00 PM, you wrote: Perhaps you can work around this by using colour groups instead of relying on flags? Thanks, I think I'll try that instead. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarded message not marked
Hello MFPA, Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 3:05:46 PM, you wrote: Are you actually forwarding the mail to your wife's email address, or just moving (or copying) them to her folder/account within TB!? No this is forwarding to a separate email account via the internet. The latter will not generate a forwarded flag. Hold on, I just noticed that forwarding automatically does not generate a forwarded flag here either, only forwarding manually. Yes, so the problem stands. Does anyone know how to flag a message as forwarded when forwarded by a rule? Could this be accomplished with a macro? -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro Syntax question
Hi, In another thread there were suggestions for salutation line macros, one of them looked like this: %Capital(%ABToFirstName=%ToFName), The effect is that if ABToFirstName exists, it uses it, otherwise it uses ToFName. It works, but since when does an equal sign mean if not, then?? If I could understand this syntax, it would help me in some of the other tasks I am trying to automate. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Engines
Since I use Voyager, and message base is encrypted, am I correct in assuming that a desktop search is out of the question? -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forwarded message not marked
Hi all, I finally solved my communication problems with my wife by creating a sorting rule that automatically forwards communication from people in address book family to her personal box. I wish I thought of it years ago! I also made a keyboard shortcut so that I can semi-automatically forward other messages to her if I want. But why don't the messages get the status icon changed to show that they were forwarded? I rely on those icons a great deal, especially the replied and forwarded ones. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one to use?
Hello John, If you are dealing with a limited set of addresses, you can use the info from your address book instead. Then you match the address, and use whatever you have in the Firstname field in your address book. That way, even if the address says Quality Manager, your reply will say Dear Dave, Dear %ABTOFirstName, If you reply to someone who is not in your address book, you will get Dear , This tells you to close the message, add the person to your address book, and then click on reply again. Now that I think of it, I'll bet I could automate that too... -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP file deletion
Hi, I'm a POP3 kind of guy, but I have one account that I can only access through IMAP. There is something I am not getting about IMAP, though. When I delete a file, it just turns red and sits there. No amount of synchronizing or double-deleting will make it disappear, it is like the living-dead, it can't be killed! What do I need to do make IMAP messages go away via TheBat!, rather than logging on to the web interface? -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filters
Hello Chris, Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 10:38:39 PM, you wrote: Or, perhaps there is a better way to do what I want to do... I have one real account [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two other account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor [EMAIL PROTECTED] have mailboxes that are checkable on a server somewhere; both are forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't want people to know the the message has been forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I though that I'd create three accounts and use selective download filters to ignore the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] messages when checking as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and select the appropriate messages for the other two accounts. At the moment, I have incoming filters for [EMAIL PROTECTED] the move the messages to the correct account. However, I have to write my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] incoming filters in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confused yet? I am. Selective download filter for each account that reads: Recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The others will be left in the box to be collected by the other accounts. I am confused when you say the other accounts aren't checkable. This would mean you couldn't really send from that address either. Another way to handle your desire to keep account a hidden is to make a reply template that checks the recipient address (a, b, or c) and replies from the appropriate account. Just add %ACCOUNT=a, b, or c in the reply template. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can master password be changed?
Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a way to change the master password on Voyager? -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filters
Hello Terry, Monday, June 18, 2007, 10:09:26 PM, you wrote: Currently our company's e-mail system is have problems. I can receive messages but can not send. As a work around I have been replying to e-mails in my work account than moving the messages to a personal e-mail account and sending. Is there a way, using the filter system, to save these message to my personal e-mail outbox? Actually, you don't need to even move the messages. Just go to your reply template and add the expression: %ACCOUNT=Gmail (Or whatever the abbreviated name for your personal mail account is in the account tree.) The messages stay in your work box, but all replies are sent via your personal account. OR you could try just changing the Account Properties | Transport details of the SMTP server to the details for your personal account (if your service allows this). Then the mails from work are sent via your personal account, but still have your work address as the sender. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager as default email client?
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 2:18:49 AM, you wrote: Try this: While the USB stick with Voyager is connected, open IE (yes, Internet Explorer) and go to Tools / Internet Options / Programs. There, see whether you can set the program for Mail to Voyager. No, only three options, none of which is Voyager. Understood, and it is an interesting experience. What would happen if a mailto: is called while the stick with Voyager is not connected? It would fail to automatically send the mail. Something it does now *all* the time, since I don't use any other email client. But at least it wouldn't open up Outlook ((shudder)). -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager as default email client?
Hello tbudl, Is there any way to make Voyager the default email client on a computer? I have tried, but have not been successful. Anytime I click on a mailto link, Outlook or something else comes up. It may seem counterintuitive for me to want to do this, but I don't use TheBat! at all, and just take Voyager between home and office so no synchronization is necessary. -- Doug mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with error
Hello Michael, Sunday, June 3, 2007, 11:55:50 AM, you wrote: When clicking on a mailto link within a HTML page, I get the error The System Cannot find the file specified. This does however work from within the bat. Also When clicking HTML links within the Bat (and the Help menu) it has the same error. For what it is worth, I definitely have this same problem, but it depends which machine I plug my Voyager key into. So it appears that it is not internal to TheBat, but has to do with some registry settings. I have not identified the differences between the machines that complain and those that don't yet. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving from Outlook 2003
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 10:42:01 PM, you wrote: The functionality of accessing the same message base at the same time from multiple systems has been discontinued around v3.65 I don't know for sure how many licenses you'd need, but there's no problem whatsoever to access the same data from different computers as long as you're using three v3 versions. (Don't have to be exactly the same v3 versions.) I used to use the bat to access the same message base on a network. I'm confused now, because you say above it has been discontinued, then you say there's no problem to access the same data from different computers. Are you saying it now locks the message base so that only one user can access it? -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I am having an email issue can some one tell me how to see the entire message header quickly?
Hello danger, Thursday, May 17, 2007, 8:44:07 PM, you wrote: Hello tbudl, I am having an email issue can some one tell me how to see the entire message header quickly? Press Shift+Ctrl+K -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: best view mode for this list
Hello Roelof, Saturday, May 12, 2007, 10:12:44 PM, you wrote: Thread on references Sort on created date Sometimes the threading information goes missing (someone not using TheBat! ?) and then the reply gets lost elsewhere in the list. I have it set to: Thread on references + subject Sort on created date For some reason when I set it to references + subject it changed the sort order to subject too. But when went back in and changed that to created date, everything is fine. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.4 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: check the space taken on a server
Hello Urban, You could use Telnet and the STAT command. See, for example, http://manual.liquidweb.com/chapter3/pop3.htm for an introduction It seems that this might be relatively easy to implement in the program? Maybe this would be a suggestion for version 4, to have the mailbox space available visible in the status bar when selected. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Read Messages
Hello Thomas, Monday, April 30, 2007, 1:27:36 PM, you wrote: Hello Doug, On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:55:37 +0200 GMT (30/04/2007, 02:55 +0700 GMT), Doug Higby wrote: DH Using the wonderful virtual folders of TheBat, I created a folder that DH contains all messages that are flagged but not replied. I also have a DH script that unflags messages that I reply to - I forget how I did DH that, but can supply details if interested. That way, when the DH messages leave the virtual flagged folder (after I reply to them), DH they don't retain the flag. I'm interested. I use the flag the same way as you: Messages that still need to be replied to get flagged, and a virtual folder keeps track. However, I have to unflag them manually. Therefore, your script would come in handy for me. OK, it is simpler than I thought. 1. In Sorting office, create a rule under Common Filters, Replied Messages. 2. The name of the rule is Unflag replied messages 3. In the action section, add Mark the message as unflagged -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox damaged after folder maintenance (3.99.3 OTFE )
Hello Charlene, Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 7:58:47 PM, you wrote: Good evening list members, a dear friend of mine has encountered a strange problem and she can't get rid of it: Performing a folder check in folder maintenance center will repeatedly cause a damaged inbox folder with a loss of all emails in it, including all subfolders of Inbox. Strange that no other folder is affected. She runs 3.99.3 on OTFE under Win MCE -as I do, too. She can't get back her emails and is rather disappointed about The Bat due to the circumstance of being forced to do a folder maintenance from time to time and the lack of reliance in the MUA itself. Losing mails is really a severe issue and I would want to help her if only I could. Can anybody be helpful in that concern please? Well, I've been warned that my inbox needs to be kept smaller, but what you describe is a perpetual problem that I face! I totally dread running maintenance because **every** time it finds an error it says something like 137 messages recovered, which, it turns out is slang for I have just deleted your entire folder. Sure, it creates misc. files in the folder that contain encrypted garbage, but my files are history. What irks me is that the messages are all there and readable by the bat interface just before running maintenance. In fact, I now often copy all the messages from one folder to a temporary folder before running maintenance, because the risk is so high that I will actually loose them all. I **think** that this problem began only when I started using Voyager, from the first release onward. I suspect that the maintenance program is very bad at handling encrypted message bases, since this is the default for Voyager. -- Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** TheBat! Voyager 3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering Read Messages
Hi, I'm new to this group but not to TheBat! I appreciate the mail filtering suggestions and will add my system to the mix. Messages are marked read automatically when viewed for six seconds. (I would forget to mark them as read otherwise). But then, If I determine a message needs action, I flag the message. Using the wonderful virtual folders of TheBat, I created a folder that contains all messages that are flagged but not replied. I also have a script that unflags messages that I reply to - I forget how I did that, but can supply details if interested. That way, when the messages leave the virtual flagged folder (after I reply to them), they don't retain the flag. I'm not totally there yet, my inbox has a couple thousand messages, because I don't do anything with them, but this has to change... I will probably make a filter do delete messages that are three months old if they are read, unflagged and not parked. An important message that I will refer to again several times, I will park. As I mentioned, I am not totally satisfied with my system and I am only scratching the surface of what TheBat! can do, so keep the suggestions coming. Thanks Roger for the spacebar tip. I've been using TheBat! for at least four years but this is new to me. Am I supposed to read the manual or something?! Doug Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
