Re: restoring msgs from TBB file
Hello MAU, On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:00:52 +0200 GMT(4/24/2005, 9:00 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote: Any Ideas? Tools/Import/Import from allows you to directly import from TBB files. I've never tried it, but I thought that I'd mention the potential received date issue. I know many moons ago when I first started using TB I imported from Unix type message base exported from VA. IIRC the received date changed to whenever I imported the messages. I don't know if this is the case with when importing from TBB files. I believe Alexander's suggestion per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] will maintain integrity of the message base's received date since the culprit is the index file which is rebuilt when TB opens with messages in new folder. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.9.18 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Kevin, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:19:07 -0400 GMT(4/3/2005, 11:19 AM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Coates wrote: I think these types of discussions help elevate awareness of both the problems and the solutions. Words of wisdom! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.9.13 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:18:57 +0700 GMT(2/5/2005, 9:18 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Fernandez wrote: TB's user demography will probably have a higher percentage of computer savvy users than most other mailers, yet it nannies the users more. Why is that? This is a VERY good question! I could guess, but it would only be conjecture. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:37:57 +0700 GMT(2/5/2005, 9:37 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Fernandez wrote: MDP That's one. There are others. Downloading *anything* at the behest of MDP an *email* is fundamentally a security breach - it's not the way email MDP is supposed to work. ...was supposed to work, I'd say. Welcome to the 21st century. Needs and preferences change. I've seen this argument on TB lists for years. It seems to be an ideological issue / opinion. Why can't you provide options and keep everybody happy? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 9:30:05 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Sorry, Jeanny, your filter won't work. Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: The logic makes sense when I consider RegEx discussion below, but I'm no RegEx expert. Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter I worked on this one earlier tonight because I thought the scenario that Jeanny asked would be helpful. No luck so far. I copied and pasted the filter here that Bill suggested. The only thing I did was use the find and replace to change the email account user and domain. So either I did something wrong from Bill's suggestion, or there is another issue here. However Jeanny has another problem: The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP , version 5.1, build 2600.Service Pack 2 She is using v2 versus Beta 3.0.2.10 for Bill which uses the NFS which is different. I don't believe should could do a copy paste with the filter because of the different configuration. Does V3.01 which is the current release per http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php have the NFS? I believe the answer is yes because: ,- [ per http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=675 ] | # The Sorting Office interface has been improved. The user can now | search though the filters. The Sorting Office window has been given a | new toolbar. `- -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Greg, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 10:38:28 PM, Greg Strong wrote: Try this: Header field From contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field To contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Header field From does not match [,;] AND Header field To does not match [,;] AND Header does not match ^cc: ...snip Note, in case you're not familiar with RegEx, the [,;] pattern looks for any comma or semi colon in the field. This FS won't work if you or your assistant have those characters in their names. The last condition rejects when any header line starts with cc: (case doesn't matter in the current release). Either I'm doing something wrong, or the filter doesn't work under test. Here is a copy paste of my test filter which is based upon above: ...snip out old filer which *I* made a *mistake*, because I continued filtering with other filters and one below it messed up the results. I have a copy paste of the new filter which *worked*, but had the 'From' condition which I question. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Domain_1.com\0D\0A0`7`From`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`7`To`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsActive Ignore endFilter Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] Seems to me you are looking for more than 1 address in the 'From' header, or am I missing something here. Anyway I removed the condition I questioned and the filter seemed to work. I copied it below: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [35CBF4D2.01C504D5.0FDD25AE.7C37F86A] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@gwstrong.com\0D\0A0`7`To`3`[,;]\0D\0A0`5`3`^cc:\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGreg\5CPersonal IsActive Ignore endFilter I don't know if this is going to help Jeanny because she is using v2. Maybe she'll upgrade. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 11:37:41 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: Bill, why did you need the condition below? AND Header field From does not match [,;] To catch an email sent from multiple addresses. Makes sense to me know! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 11:30:33 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: You missed one of the conditions. AND Header field To does not match [,;] Thanks! I figured that out after many failures AND the mistake below. Also, did you move the new filter to the top for testing? Yes after failing at first. Also the other mistake was on the 'Option' tab of the filter with 'Continue processing other filters'. Fatal mistake!!! I'm sure Greg knows this but others may not - it's really easy to test with the Test filters feature. Actually I don't. Please inform me! I really don't use the more advanced features of filters that I'm sure TB is capable of especially on the 'Read' filter side of things. At least not in my opinion when compared to what Miguel has expressed in the past with his set up. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering question
Hello Bill, Friday, January 28, 2005, 12:29:57 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote: ...snip Let's look at your input filters. Right click on any message. Choose Test filters from the drop down menu. Make sure only incoming mail is checked and click OK. Ok I see it from the main window. You'll be rewarded with a dialog that shows how your incoming filters would deal with that message when received. Enjoy! Slight problem. I can't use the 'Test filters' feature because the main window has to be in focus which means the filter has to be in the account of the folder selected which is not the case for me. Now I don't really have a Pop email account for TB lists. My registrar forwards my email to another valid Pop account. I then use 'Incoming' filters in the other account to put the email into a 'dummy' account in TB. I then use my ISP's outbound SMTP server to send. You might say this is TB filter system doing one of its finest functions. :-) BTW, Jeanny should be able to modify the filter I gave - on her system. I had a similar one in 1.62r. Great!!! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmane archives X-Archive header set with %SetHeader(X-Archive, expiry=0)
Hello TB'ers, I use the following macro for my email on TB lists: %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0) I thought Gmane was NOT suppose to archive my messages. After I saw my email showing up in Gmane I went back and checked. It looks like they show up from the middle of November '04. I have not changed the X-Archive header. ,- [ Per Allie in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | To prevent your messages from appearing at all, use the header: | | X-Archive: expiry=0 | | Use that header alone. Combining it with 'X-No-Archive: Yes' is | unnecessary and can actually cause problems in that these switches are | applied as they're encountered. The X-No-Archive header could nullify | the expiry header if the former appears after the latter. `- Looks like something changed on Gmane's archival system. What? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is it possible to change folder locations?
Hello Darrin, Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 10:34:53 PM, Darrin Rich wrote: I wish to move folders under the account tree to different locations. Is this possible? Yes. Select the folder and right mouse click. You will see the following: Move Up Move Down Move In Move Out Please note the short cut keys on the right of the menu. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: a dumb problem
Hello Henry, Friday, January 21, 2005, 11:14:33 AM, Henry Lefkowitz wrote: Instead, you can also export the messages, delete the ones in TB, and import them again. This should fix the received date. Back up/rename the message.tbb file for safety first. You will need to do a manual refilter. This didn't work. After I imported the messages again, the received date was still the same. IIRC if you export to Unix Mailbox type and re-import, I believe Thomas is correct in that the date received is the date of import. So if you didn't change your computer date back to the correct date before the import the problem persists. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: a dumb problem
Hello Robin, Friday, January 21, 2005, 4:10:17 PM, Robin Anson wrote: The UNIX mailbox format includes the received date/time, so if you export to that format and re-import you will get the same received date/time unless you edit the UNIX mailbox in the meantime (the received date/time is on the first line of the message, the one that looks like From [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.com Wed Jan 19 09:39:50 2005). I stand corrected. However, if I export to msg/eml format, and then re-import the message, the received date/time is the time I re-import. Well my memory tells me this has occurred to me in the past I just couldn't recall which format I used. I probably should have tested first. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmane / subject on replies with counter / threading
Hello TB Lists, Just thought I'd let those of you who use counters in your subject with a reply (i.e. Re[2]: GnuPG 1.4.0) that it messes up the threading in my newsreader (i.e. Agent 1.93) when I pull from Gmane. Not that you really care about my newsreader because I do NOT. I figure you may care about the others who do use a newsreader to read TB lists. I figure if it messes up Agent, then it is most likely to mess up other threading with other non-Agent Newsreaders except for of course those who use TB. If you do not care and like to play games on those using newsreaders, then leave it like it is. With the volume down like it is on TB lists, it may not much matter. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup and purge very old messages
Hello Kariem, Saturday, November 27, 2004, 7:39:33 AM, Kariem Hussein wrote: Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if desired. I did not see any option for that in the Message Finder. But I think you propose putting them in a folder and then archiving the folder. Yes. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro for AV automatic mail ?
Hello Ludovic, Thursday, November 25, 2004, 10:55:55 AM, Ludovic LE MOAL wrote: Isn't it because of the X-Mailer header ? Yes 1 of the problems, but just remove the X-Mailer header from messages by Options | Preferences un-select 'Use X-Mailer in messages'. IIRC some TBUDL'ers were being banned because of the IP address their messages originated. My memory tells me that Marck was one of them and the ISP was AOL. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro for AV automatic mail ?
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, November 24, 2004, 1:44:51 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Can you check if the SMTP server of your ISP has been blacklisted as a spam relay? I wouldn't know *where* to check that, but it could be an explanation... After a little Googling try this list out. http://www.email-policy.com/Spam-black-lists.htm IIRC I've used http://www.ordb.org/ to test a previous ISP which I had a web site and SMTP server. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem with TB when switching my XP user account to Limited,
Hello Jurgen, Wednesday, November 24, 2004, 3:37:17 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote: Where and what do I have to change so that TB can work with the temp files again? Well I suspect if you are on a NTFS drive that you will have to give rights to the path where temp files are stored to the limited user. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello Tony, Monday, November 22, 2004, 3:03:22 AM, Tony Boom wrote: rem if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg rem if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg Disable error checking? Strange thing to do! The above two line check for previous reg backups and deletes or renames them to make way for the new one, why disable them Greg? Because they don't exists and she is only using to transfer to new machine 1 time, so what is the point. Thought I would make it simple, that is all. Not a big deal unless you are going to run repeatedly. Also I'm assuming WinRAR switches are correct. I don't have WinRAR I use 7-Zip. Are the switches for incremental backup? If they aren't, then they should be because it would make it much faster if you are going to run repeatedly. Also if you are going to run repeatedly, then you may want to run gradfather, father, son batch backup which Marck posted some time back. All the better. This can be debated every which way. All I was trying to do is help her get TB on to 2nd PC. No more. Anyway!!! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello P.Johnson, Monday, November 22, 2004, 5:42:56 PM, P.Johnson wrote: Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on my new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem. Glad to hear you have it installed, sorry to hear about the hang problem. What does the account log (Shft+Ctrl+A) say when the problem occurs? I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a different conflict. I would start with the account log. It may provide a clue as to what may be wrong. Have you checked the account transport settings (Ctrl+Shft+P)? Poor old Texans... I suppose I should be a fan but I'm not interested in football at all (though Toronto just won the Grey Cup :-) ... no, make that :-( as they beat the Lions). Is the Grey cup soccer? That sport is definitely growing in the US. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup and purge very old messages
Hello Mica, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 7:02:00 AM, Mica Mijatovic wrote: The only method I have found so far, to delete old messages, is on a per-folder-basis. I have to select keep in message base for (days) in each folder and then do a purge (from the maintenance menu item). It would be really long winded to do that with about 130 folders. Do you have any suggestions? You could do that by searching for messages using Advanced tab in Message Finder (F7), where you could do that by date(s) in all accounts. This is probably the fastest on a 1 time basis although no threading (Alt+0) should be used before selecting all (Ctrl+A) and deleting. Instead of deleting could also export to file for safe keeping if desired. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB with batch file
are going to go TB backup utility route I would suggest running Folder | Maintenance utility before the backup with selecting (1) check integrity/repair (2) purge duplicates (3) compress. :-) Any help any of you can provide would be very much appreciated. I tried to help, but it depends upon your file structure. TB backup may be the route to go, but I will say a batch backup is good to have because you can integrate more advanced features of WinRar which would be to backup only changes. Allie may be able to help you here because my memory tells me this is how he backs up his system. This makes it MUCH faster, then incorporate into scheduled backups or even with batch file on TB icon on desktop to run after exit. I don't mean to scare you away here, because batch backup can be good to have. It just may take a little trial and error to get it to work. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't add words to spelling list.
Hello Dan, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:17:49 PM, Dan Grunberg wrote: Maybe if you restore from a CD-Rom, your speller files have read only attribute, and you can append new words in them... That sounds possible. Which file names should I look for? Probably UserDic.TLX Other possibility is if your using NTFS file system and your logged in as a limited user. You will have to change security so that the limited user can modify the UserDic.TLX file. What I did is reboot into safe mode on WinXP Pro and open Windows Explorer for the C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Speller directory. Right click and select the security tab. Check for the user name, then add modify capabilities. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello P.Johnson, Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:24:09 PM, P.Johnson wrote: In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still change it to TheBat2.0? No, try re-written batch file below. If your on WinXP Pro or Win2k log in as an admin user. Open text editor and simply copy and paste, then save it in: C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 directory as TBbkup.bat. Create a directory on the c drive as C:\email Open command box by Start|Run|type cmd hit enter. At prompt type the following: cd c:\program files\TheBat2.0 type TBbkup.bat and the batch should run WinRAR from the command line. Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate your efforts to help, and your patience. No problem the Packers just beat the Texans with a field goal with time expiring so it is the least I can do. --TBbkup.bat-- @Echo off Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe Echo Echo * !! Backing up The Bat registry entries !! * Echo Echo . rem if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg rem if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! Echo ** Echo * !! Creating RAR Archive of The Bat Directory!! * Echo ** Echo . if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 --TBbkup.bat-- This assumes you have WinRAR installed to C:\Program Files\WinRAR\ on the original PC. Install WinRar on 2nd PC. Now if the WinRAR switches are correct the compressed file should have the directory structure within it. So all you have to do is dump the TBBackup.rar onto a CD and de-compress it onto the new PC to the C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 directory keeping the directory structure intact on the de-compression. On the new PC the TBbckup1.reg file should be in the program directory of C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0. Open Windows Explorer to the program directory and double click on TBbckup1.reg file. You should now be in business on the new PC with the exact same settings as the original. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
hard code percent sign (i.e. %) in QT?
Hello TBBETA, Anyway to hard code a percent sign (i.e. %) so it actually shows up in a message derived from a quick template? I know % are used in macros, but what happens if you really want to show a percent sign in the message that you want to send. Never really tried it until I needed it tonight. I tried single and double quotes without luck. TIA! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad URL on Download of 3.01
Hello Greg, Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:25:15 PM, Greg Strong wrote: Looks like you have a bad URL for download of 3.01 ,- [ BAD NEWS ] | Not Found | The requested URL /en/products/thebat/download.php was not found on this server. | | Apache/1.3.31 Server at www.ritlabs.com Port 82 `- The problem is on the http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ page. When you click on Download it brings up the following URL: http://www.ritlabs.com/bitrix/redirect.php?event1=from_homeevent2=downloadevent3=engoto=/en/products/thebat/download.php which is bad. The correct URL is http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php which brings up the correct page for download. Not a good thing to do on a release day. Just thought I'd let you know. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bad URL on Download of 3.01
Hello TBUDL, Looks like you have a bad URL for download of 3.01 ,- [ BAD NEWS ] | Not Found | The requested URL /en/products/thebat/download.php was not found on this server. | | Apache/1.3.31 Server at www.ritlabs.com Port 82 `- -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?
Hello MikeD, Thursday, October 7, 2004, 10:11:36 AM, MikeD (3) wrote: Click Add and then point it at the 'bayesit' folder and select the 'bayesit.tbp' Done. That will get things started. Next you have to start showing it what is good email (i.e. 'ham') and what is spam (that is train it). You can do that in several different ways. You can just start using TB as before. Without anything to go on it *should* treat everything as ham. You then tell it what is spam. Eventually it will start to figure things out. Ok I can do nothing and let learn on the fly, but I have about 500 spam messages that I would like to use to train. If you have saves a lot of spam and ham samples, you can train it on those saved letters. That will speed up the training process. How do you do this? ... snip -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?
Hello Greg, Sunday, October 10, 2004, 8:21:19 PM, Greg Strong wrote: If you have saves a lot of spam and ham samples, you can train it on those saved letters. That will speed up the training process. How do you do this? ,- [ per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA ] | Just select the 500 messages and use Specials/Mark as Junk. You should | also train about the same number of Non-Junk messages, using | Specials/Mark as Non-Junk. `- Thanks Stuart! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.1 RC5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adding all addresses in AB
Hello Stuart, Sunday, August 15, 2004, 11:28:50 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: pr how to all address (to/cc/bcc) including sender's pr to address book ? ... snip You can right click on the appropriate header in the Header bar and select Add to address book. ... snip pr this is one way.. a simplistic way.. pr but i wanted, something automatic, that is the moment mail is sent /received pr all addresses added (rather sync.) to AB SC You can do this through the filtering system, I believe. There is a SC whole group of options to select from. Yes I believe in Sorting Office for incoming set up a filter and on the Actions tab select Add address(es) to Address Book and choose group if appropriate. Do the same for outgoing mail. I haven't tried it though, so I can't speak to the complexities. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:02:21 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: RO However, as I'm a plain text type and don't use the RTV except for RO testing purposes, I'd prefer everybody placing their roguemoticon in RO the X-Rogue: header and not in the signature, since the latter won't RO show when you're using the plain text viewer. I've reverted to the PTV as well. Easier to read, and picture in TB header works fine. I'm glad you brought this to my attention because I thought the picture was only available in the RTV. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scan Alert SMC7004FW - 1st alert my IP destination, 2nd my IP source?
Hello TB'ers, Any ideals why my router firewall SMC7004FW would send an intrusion email alert on a SYN flood with a source in RU per the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=213.180.193.68Advanced+search=Advanced+search with my IP address as the source, then followed shortly thereafter with another email alert where the source is my present IP address? Trojan, WinXP security hole, etc.? I sent this to 3 TB lists, not knowing which would be the most appropriate. Here are the whole messages in both email: ,- [ 1st message with my IP as destination ] | Dear User | Your router has detected and protected you against an attempt to gain | access to your network. This may have been an attempted hacker intrusion, | or perhaps just your Internet Service Provider doing routine network | maintenance. | Most of these network probes are nothing to be worried about - these types | of random probes should NOT be reported, but you may want to report repeated | intrusions attempts. Save this email for comparison with future alert | messages. | Your router Alert Information | | Time: 07/18/2004, 11:17:23 | Message: SYN Flood to Host | Source: 213.180.193.68, 52433 | Destination:24.145.174.198, 8090 | | | Visit the UXN Combat Spam web site to get more detailed information about | the intruder - http://combat.uxn.com/ | 1. Type the intruder's IP address into the IP WHOIS search engine | 2. Click the Query Button | 3. Detailed network and administration information will be displayed `- ,- [ 2nd message with my IP as source? ] | Dear User | Your router has detected and protected you against an attempt to gain | access to your network. This may have been an attempted hacker intrusion, | or perhaps just your Internet Service Provider doing routine network | maintenance. | Most of these network probes are nothing to be worried about - these types | of random probes should NOT be reported, but you may want to report repeated | intrusions attempts. Save this email for comparison with future alert | messages. | Your router Alert Information | | Time: 07/18/2004, 11:17:48 | Message: TCP Null Scan | Source: 24.145.174.198, 32771 | Destination:63.99.224.63, 25 | | | Visit the UXN Combat Spam web site to get more detailed information about | the intruder - http://combat.uxn.com/ | 1. Type the intruder's IP address into the IP WHOIS search engine | 2. Click the Query Button | 3. Detailed network and administration information will be displayed `- Please note that my IP address can be verified per TBUDL mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent earlier today. Any ideals? TIA! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scan Alert SMC7004FW - 1st alert my IP destination, 2nd my IP source?
Hello Greg, Sunday, July 18, 2004, 12:08:23 PM, Greg Strong wrote: GS Any ideals why my router firewall SMC7004FW would send an intrusion email alert on GS a SYN flood with a source in RU per the following URL: GS http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=simplefull_query_string=searchtext=213.180.193.68Advanced+search=Advanced+search GS with my IP address as the source, then followed shortly thereafter with ^^ destination GS another email alert where the source is my present IP address? Trojan, GS WinXP security hole, etc.? Sorry about the error! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scan Alert SMC7004FW - 1st alert my IP destination, 2nd my IP source?
Hello Greg, Sunday, July 18, 2004, 12:08:23 PM, Greg Strong wrote: GS I sent this to 3 TB lists, not knowing which would be the most GS appropriate. A little off topic and do apologize, so taken question elsewhere. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile POP3 port setting
Hello admin, Sunday, July 18, 2004, 3:25:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a reason (a) for not choosing 110, and (b) for choosing 123? aacu Whe I sert up PopFile I went by the manual and forum advice - I can't aacu remembver why at the moment but I'm not technical enough to have made aacu that decision for myself - but as I say I can't remember why I did aacu it. I have checked using the netstat command and there are no aacu listening ports numbered 110. aacu So maybe I should change it back to 110 do you think? And then try aacu 2.12.00 again? I did use PopFile until I started to use my ISP's (i.e. EarthLink) TLS connection. IIRC the connection was as follows: Connection: TB ==} PopFile ==} ISP's POP Server Port: ? 110 I verified this in my old rules for Kerio which shows PopFile with port 110. IIRC there was special syntax in either my email client's POP server settings or user. I don't recall which one, but I believe it is in PopFile's help. The interesting part is when I started to investigate more into WinXP Pro's security I learned of wiping of the pagefile on shutdown. I thought this would be good to wipe any passwords and such that may be it with memory swapping (i.e. just thinking out loud). The very day that I actived the pagefile wipe on shutdown my ISP's EarthLink TLS did NOT function. Thinking out loud a again I don't give a darn because I don't have anything to hide. :-รพ -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scan Alert SMC7004FW - 1st alert my IP destination, 2nd my IP source?
Hello Bob, Sunday, July 18, 2004, 7:13:24 PM, Bob Morris wrote: BM You gave me a few moments of puzzlement with this - I had just read BM your message at GRC.COM on my newsreader and then opened my e-mail to BM see the identical message. Well after I got a rather rude post on OT, I then posted to GRC and to DSLreports security group. BM I thought I was having a senior moment :) ROTFLMAO! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cc vs bcc screwup
Hello Roelof, Friday, July 9, 2004, 8:14:21 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: J I recently messed up and sent out a newsletter using a group list in cc versus bcc. J Took _so_ much care in preparing and testing, only to screw-up with the final J version. Feel REALLY stupid. RO Next time use the mass mailing feature. That way each recipient gets RO his own message without any other recipients listed. Besides that, you RO can personalise the messages with mass mailing: things like Hi %ToFName RO work. Yes I think this is best solution. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello Richard, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:05:17 PM, Richard H. Stoddard wrote: RHS I just backup all folders RHS and run a full restore on the second machine, which at least on mine RHS overwrites the original message base, meaning the messages that have RHS been deleted do not reappear. Well I think Marten means on synchronizing, not backup which is why I asked the question earlier. -- Best Regards, :Greg_Strong: Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello admin, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 5:03:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu I really need some practical advice on this whole aacu business of synchronising two copies of The Bat! It may not be what you need, but I just use the backup tool. When I am going to travel, I just backup the main computer and then restore on the laptop, reversing the process when I return. That way I have all received and sent mail current on whatever machine I will be using. aacu Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu aumenting system not a synchronising system. Are you talking about the backup tool or synchronizing? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
Hello Thomas, Sunday, July 4, 2004, 9:28:48 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: aacu Yes but I also have all the email that I delteted back again. It's an aacu aumenting system not a synchronising system. TF Yes, it is. I think only IMAP does what you want. I am no expert, but I think Thomas is correct here. Unfortunately this doesn't appear to be a viable option per http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt. Richard may have given good advice per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], however I see you have a problem per your #15 on http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt. I am no expert on TB backup tool, but when using TB backup tool have you tried *only* selecting the following: 1 Folder with Messages 2 Address Books 3 Attachment Files On your http://www.annerykiln.co.uk/thebat.txt you talk about a BackUp application and do not state what it is, but mention the problem of NTFS file access which sounds like a permissions problem. Whatever you use for a backup and restore option are you doing it from an admin account? Thinking out loud and not being an XP expert it almost sounds like the permissions are getting messed up with the backup application. If you are using limited accounts to access TB on different machines, does the NTFS permissions carry forward to the restored directories? If yes and the limited accounts have different names, then this may be what is causing the problem. Whatever! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote: s I s liked Greg's description of how-to and thought it a great function. s He didn't chime in when I asked the initial question, so either he s is/wa very busy and didn't see it or thought Hey, I don't want to s rehash it. I do know they changed the header name at some point in time. Is there a Reply-To. If yes, then give that a try. If you replying to a message way down in a thread, you should see a whole bunch of message IDs. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote: s I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering s how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? NO!!! Obviously I assume you have paid for a V2 license. Download and simply install over older version. You will probably see the header change to Follow-up. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Terry, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 1:30:26 PM, Terry G. Munson wrote: TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. I think you are correct, so my earlier post was incorrect. Whatever! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Mary, Friday, July 2, 2004, 6:40:15 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about MB it that he sent it to tbudl and tbbeta also. (I know that because I'm MB subscribed to both those lists, also.) I did because I do feel strongly about it (pun intended). :-) I do use threading and don't read all messages. Cntrl+Shft+M comes in very handy, but is only good when people maintain conversation which relates to original subject. If conversation changes, then I might mark messages read that I may have wanted to read, but didn't know it. Hope that makes sense! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
test from sent mail
Hello TBUDL, test -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyRealBox bounce TB Lists?
Hello TBBETA, Is MyRealBox bouncing messages from TB Lists? I started testing IMAP on MRB months ago, and it appears MRB is no longer receiving messages from TB Lists. Anyone confirm? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common courtesy on threading!
Hello Melissa, Saturday, June 26, 2004, 1:41:16 PM, Melissa Reese wrote: MR Some of us just don't have either the time or the inclination to read MR every single message that comes into every list we subscribe to. For MR this reason - amongst others - we use threading as a means to quickly MR make a first decision about which discussions to follow and which to MR ignore. The logic of threading is completely lost when we ignore this MR most basic reason for the existence of threading in the first place. MR Okay...I've had my little rant for the day. I feel better now (I MR think). :-) But a good one. All they have to do when subject is changed in a reply is the following: 1 change subject 2 select View | Follow-up 3 delete message id Walla now they have a reply changing the subject that starts a new thread. Common courtesy I think. Just like I've done with this message. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation
Hello Bill, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 1:42:25 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote: BM I sent myself a URL to print at a remote location. Clicking on the BM URL with Outlook worked fine. Clicking with TB! produced this BM message: BM Access violation at address 39636A78. Read of address 39636A78. BM After that message, the hour glass was permanently on in TB! until I BM closed TB!. BM Here's one of the offending URLs: BM http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?do=rev2ct=NAmo=maun=mgo=11initsrch=01sbx=32initsrch=01a=101%20Bowie%20St1c=San%20Antonio1pl=210%2d223%2d10001pn=San%20Antonio%20Marriott%20Rivercntr1g=Tn1zyxa7mzg%3d2a=3600%20Presidential%20Blvd2tabval=search1l=SqJ4m4F4Fok%3d2c=Austincl=EN2g=NNSn1EzZZJY%3d1s=TX2pl=512%2d530%2d22422l=CKdSu7ZCltg%3dct=NA1v=ADDRESS2sbx=01ct=NA2pn=Austin%2dBergstrom%20Intl%20Airport%20%28AUS%291y=US1tabval=search1z=782052s=TX2v=ADDRESSdid=10870941312y=US2z=78719 not confirmed. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation
Hello Bill, Sunday, June 13, 2004, 10:59:00 AM, Bill McCarthy wrote: BM Yes, the URL was saved to an email and sent out. The AV occurs when I BM click on that URL while viewing the email from the Sent Mail folder. I copied your URL to a new message and sent to myself. I then clicked on the URL from the sent mail folder. Not confirmed. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I'm sick! I ought to be home in bed with a nurse. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fake bounce
Hello rich, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 1:16:45 AM, rich gregory wrote: rg Hummm. Maybe we should all just pay .05 cents for each email we rg send... I don't like that ideal either. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
Hello Michael, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 12:16:46 PM, Michael Rudnick wrote: MR How do I change the e-mail address I use to subscribe to TBUDL? click on the link at the bottom of every message from TBUDL. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html On the left pane click on Unsubscribing or Adjusting your Subscription login to TBUDL Subscription. I believe you can change your email address without un-subscribing. MR Do I need to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? No see above. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Quoting Abe Lincoln: You can please all the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all the people all of the time. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
* Echo * !! Updating Backup !! * Echo * !! Archive of TB-Mail !! * Echo * set archMl=b1 : :loopMail : set nameMl=%dstdir%tbIcMl%ArchMl%.7z if not exist %drvBU%\%nameMl% goto doitMl if %archMl%==b4 goto runoutMl if %archMl%==b3 set archMl=b4 if %archMl%==b2 set archMl=b3 if %archMl%==b1 set archMl=b2 goto loopMail : :runoutMl : set archDlMl=b1 set namDlMl=%dstdir%tbIcMl%archDlMl%.7z del %drvBU%\%namDlMl% : :doitMl : cd \ if %archMl%==b4 set prevMl=b3 if %archMl%==b3 set prevMl=b2 if %archMl%==b2 set prevMl=b1 if %archMl%==b1 set prevMl=b4 %drvBU% cd \ copy %drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcMl%prevMl%.7z %drvBU%\%nameMl% 7z u -ms=off %drvBU%\%nameMl% -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 %srcdirMl%* -r if %archMl%==b4 set archDlMl=b1 if %archMl%==b3 set archDlMl=b4 if %archMl%==b2 set archDlMl=b3 if %archMl%==b1 set archDlMl=b2 set nameMl=%drvBU%\%dstdir%tbIcMl%archDlMl%.7z del %nameMl% %drvPm% cd %srcdirPM% --#2 Incremental TB Backup Batch File (Name: TBigfs.bat)- -#3 Batch File TB Shortcut (Name: StartTB.bat) -- C:\program files\the bat!\thebat.exe Call TBigfs.bat -#3 Batch File TB Shortcut (Name: StartTB.bat) -- BTW Marck, one of the things I could not get to work was the variable you set up for the program called archiver. Anyhow 7z is much shorter than the variable name, and IIRC 7-Zip is a little fidgety in that you need to compress from the root directory which is fine because to restore all you have to do is indicate the drive because all of the paths are included in the backup. What can I say other than it works for me. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The question in life is not whether you will have problems, but how you deal with them. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG anti-spam update and restarting TB
Hello Gerard, Monday, May 24, 2004, 10:36:46 AM, Gerard wrote: G There has just been a new plugin update. We are at version 7.0.245 G now Is this for the free version 6 or version 7? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Time will tell. It is the true test of everything! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
Hello Jimmie, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 8:40:49 AM, Jimmie Toney wrote: JT I think it is great to be on a list where the moderator cares enough JT to take the steps to remove something like this. Thanks again and no JT problem from here with the probes. Agreed. BTW I like that tagline. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:04:37 PM, MAU wrote: Well it all comes down to an individual's needs. Geez have I heard that before. :-) For me running a BAT file for an incremental backup on shut down of TB works great. M Of course, you are right. Just like many people can get along with OE M (which is free) instead of TB. I'd bet a beer or too that many TB users, M for their needs, could actually get along with OE. I have to use OE at work. I really miss TB's filtering capability coupled with macros. I most definitely could use TB's macro capabilities at work, but you know you have to use the what is provided. Not much choice. M Or maybe not, I'm not sure if OE has macros to tell what time it is M where I live. ;-) Not me! :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 10:24:29 AM, MAU wrote: I am in agreement with you as to what and what not to backup, and the fact that this thread is becoming unproductive. However may I trouble you for more direct information on the batch scripts that you use and how to implement them. I just happen to have a JumpDrive that would be capable of holding the backup information that I need. M What you and Allie find unproductive may be productive for others, just M like discussing about batch scripts. They should actually be considered M OT and discussed in TBOT. Isn't this really a function of opinions which are a function of needs? :-) Sounds like an old broken record, but true! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (Saying for the day: Like a former boss once said opinions are like a**h^les, everyone's got one.) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing multiple identities
Hello Gabriel, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 11:03:09 AM, Gabriel Menini wrote: 3.- Uninstall The Bat and make sure the Mail directory is empty. I not, delete it. 4.- Install TB from scratch and, this time, remember to create an account with Admin rights. ... snip GM Great !!! GM It worked!! IIRC newer versions of TB install the mail directory in a sub-directory of the user's somewhere under C:\Documents and Settings when it is a clean install. Don't recall exact directory. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Without Time, everything would happen at once. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello MAU, Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 8:14:30 PM, MAU wrote: TB! isn't the only thing I backup. M See my reply to your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well it all comes down to an individual's needs. Geez have I heard that before. :-) For me running a BAT file for an incremental backup on shut down of TB works great. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Without Time, everything would happen at once. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Leif, Monday, May 17, 2004, 12:33:58 AM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG How is it out there in left field? grin I was past the bleachers! :-) LG Here's an old easy way. Make your shortcut point to a batch file that LG runs TB. i.e. LG tb.bat LG * LG C:\program files\the bat!\thebat.exe LG Call backup.bat LG * LG The batch file will not process the second line until you shutdown TB. LG backup.bat will be the batch file you all have been writing to backup LG TB. Since I have my backup batch file in the program directory of TB I have to have c:\program files\The Bat!\ in the start in field of the short cut for it to work. Thanks for the info! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Sorry, out of order! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
if %archive%==b1 set archive=b2 set nameMl=%dstdir%\tbMail%archive%.7z del %nameMl% ===Grandfather/Father/Son b/u TBgfs.bat== HTH! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Adam, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 1:51:21 PM, Adam wrote: ... snip GS If TB has no way to call a batch file on exit, does anybody know how to GS create this functionality? A No problem. TB is just one program in your batch file. Put it at the A top, and the rest of the commands will run along after. I want to run the batch file AFTER TB exits not after I start TB. A What was the Subject of the original discussion on Tbot? Re: c0t0d0s0, WAS: Re: EULAs etc... per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GS ===Incremental b/u GS TB.Bat GS Path C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\7-ZIP;C:\Program Files\The Bat! GS regedit /e X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit GS copy X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg A This can't be from a working batch file. Since many of your pathnames A are not quoted. So the later ones should fail. You are correct on the copy X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg everything else seems to be working fine. GS @Echo off GS Echo GS Echo * !! Updating Backup Archive of TB-Mail!! * GS Echo * Mail located in X:\AppsBase\MAIL* GS Echo * (Mail Base is X:\TBArchives\tbMail7z.7z) * GS Echo GS x: GS cd x:\ GS 7z u -ms=off x:\TBArchives\tbMail_X_7z.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 AppsBase\MAIL\* -r A What would be the meaning of this part? Those are all the switches in 7-Zip command line to do the incremental backup. See the help file subjects of u (Update) command and -u (Update options) switch. Works great. To test I've completely wiped my system and completely restored TB in minutes. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Quoting Abe Lincoln: You can please all the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all the people all of the time. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 2:36:55 PM, Greg Strong wrote: A This can't be from a working batch file. Since many of your pathnames A are not quoted. So the later ones should fail. GS You are correct on the copy X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg everything else GS seems to be working fine. Well I just wiped my system clean using Eraser on the files and deleted RIT key in registry and completely restored all 890 MB mail base plus program directory in about 5 minutes. I would say that is a working batch file. So revised incremental backup file TB.bat=== Path C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\7-ZIP;C:\Program Files\The Bat! regedit /e X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit copy X:\TBArchives\tbreg.reg @Echo off Echo Echo * !! Updating Backup Archive of TB-Mail!! * Echo * Mail located in X:\AppsBase\MAIL* Echo * (Mail Base is X:\TBArchives\tbMail7z.7z) * Echo x: cd x:\ 7z u -ms=off x:\TBArchives\tbMail_X_7z.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 AppsBase\MAIL\* -r Echo Echo * !! Updating Backup Archive of The Bat! !! * Echo * Program located in C:\Program Files\The Bat! * Echo * (Program is X:\TBArchives\tbPgm7z.7z)* Echo c: cd c:\ 7z u -ms=off x:\TBArchives\tbPgm_C_7z.7z -up0q0r2x1y2z1w2 Program Files\The Bat!\* -r x: cd X:\TBArchives del tbreg.reg c: cd C:\Program Files\The Bat! del tbreg.reg TB.bat=== -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (1) Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your head). (2) Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code). (3) Multiply by 80. (4) Add 1 (5) Multiply by 250. (6) Add the last 4 digits of your phone number. (7) Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again. (8) Subtract 250 (9) Divide number by 2. Do you recognize the answer? Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 3:43:23 PM, Greg Strong wrote: GS If TB has no way to call a batch file on exit, does anybody know how to GS create this functionality? A No problem. TB is just one program in your batch file. Put it at the A top, and the rest of the commands will run along after. GS I did try this but the command box window closed before exiting the TB. GS Any other ideals. Probably a good way to corrupt your mail base because compression continues to run while program is open and running. :-) I don't think this is a good ideal! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Without Time, everything would happen at once Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Marck, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 4:22:53 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: GS ... I do like your Grandfather/Father/Son backup, but the 7-Zip GS incremental backup better because it is MUCH FASTER. MDP Alright. How about this hybrid version then? Most definitely a keeper. :-) What did I do convert you to incremental backups? :-) You will find these are just flat out FAST! Did you see 7-Zip author will be coming out with a newer version? ,- [ http://www.7-zip.org/ ] | 7-Zip 4.00 (2004 May): | |1. Multivolume |2. Absolute pathnames in command line |3. Multiple archives handling in one command |4. Compressing/decompressing from/to stdin/stdout in command line `- Now the only problem I see to make this one heck of a backup is to be able to run this batch file automatically after you exit TB. See Thomas Anderson's message per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any ideals? Just thinking out loud here. Doesn't Systinternals (http://www.sysinternals.com/) have freeware utilities where you could check to see if TB was running? ,- [ Per About The Bat! Command line parameters in Help file ] | To ensure that a copy of The Bat! is running on a computer, a program | that need to interact with The Bat! must check whether the mutex called | The Bat! is owned by a process and, if it is not, The Bat! must be | started. `- You could use Windows Scheduler to start TB on boot, then give 10 seconds for TB to start, then start Systinternals utility to check for The Bat! process. When The Bat! process not there, then start backup batch file. Am I in left field here, or do you catch my drift? Is there an easier way? I have learned some programming, but am not aware of all of the nuances of NT systems. Like I said just thinking out loud. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are no guarantees in life. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Adam, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 6:00:39 PM, Adam wrote: A It'd be chaos. I tried it twice. The batch file continued to run after TB started. What can I say? If you don't believe me and have WinXP Pro, then take my batch file and place in c:\program files\the bat!, download 7-Zip, and run it yourself. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 There are no guarantees in life. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup script
Hello Marck, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 5:24:22 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: ... snip MDP They are certainly much faster. Obviously it depends upon how many files change. If you run on a regularly, say daily, then I would suspect at most only a few minutes to backup program, mail base, and registry when the mail base is 800 MB +. GS Did you see 7-Zip author will be coming out with a newer GS version? MDP No. GS ,- [ http://www.7-zip.org/ ] GS | 7-Zip 4.00 (2004 May): GS | GS |1. Multivolume GS |2. Absolute pathnames in command line MDP Blimey!! And the hoops I had to jump through to get the GFS to work MDP around the lack of this! Hrumph! I understand this last statement only to well. :-0 GS Now the only problem I see to make this one heck of a backup is GS to be able to run this batch file automatically after you exit GS TB. See Thomas Anderson's message per GS mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any ideals? MDP No. I use a daily schedule to run the batch, which performs the MDP TB exit from within. What do you use the /EXIT command to force The Bat! to exit, then backup in your batch file? GS You could use Windows Scheduler to start TB on boot, then give GS 10 seconds for TB to start, then start Systinternals utility to GS check for The Bat! process. When The Bat! process not there, GS then start backup batch file. MDP ... it's a plan ... Yes, but I don't know how to execute it. :-) GS Am I in left field here, or do you catch my drift? Is there an GS easier way? I have learned some programming, but am not aware of GS all of the nuances of NT systems. Like I said just thinking out GS loud. MDP Anything /can/ be done if you're working at a programming level. If you come up with some ideal, then let me know. I do like the ideal of running an incremental backup on exit. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I'm sick! I ought to be home in bed with a nurse. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automating backup?
Hello Adam, Sunday, May 16, 2004, 7:20:02 PM, Adam wrote: A I didn't see a reference about running The Bat! in your batch file. So A I am not sure if I follow so well now. Maybe you can explain. I added it after you mentioned it to try your suggestion. A I did note you set the path in your batch file. So in that case, if A you ran it. And you were at the command line, adding only this in a batch A file: A thebat.exe A notepad.exe I am not running notepad. I'm running 7-Zip command line interface. A And running it at the command line, should leave The Bat! application A running, the Command Prompt window still running, and it will await A you until The Bat! closes. My tests were in sharp contrast to this last statement. 7-Zip continued to run the backup from the command line WHILE TB was open, and did NOT wait until TB closed. A Maybe the intention was a bit different as you were interpreting in A running the 100 line program you posted. My intention was to run 7-Zip command line (i.e. backup TB) after TB exit. It simply didn't work like you suggested because 7-Zip ran while TB was still open. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The only sure things in life are death and taxes. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: download progress indicator
Hello Hank, Saturday, May 15, 2004, 9:36:36 PM, Hank wrote: H Is anyone using The Bat! with the free version of AVG antivirus? Yes. H This version does not come bundled with a TB plugin. The most recent H link I could find in the TBUDL archives for a AVG 6 plugin was for a H file named avgbat10us.exe. I'm just a bit wary of it though, because H the timestamp on the avgbat.bav file in my AVG directory is H 16/12/2002, which seems quite old. Its file version as shown in TB is H 6.0.686. Same as mine. It works fine for me. H Does anybody use TB with the free version of AVG and have a more recent plugin H than this? Maybe someone else does, but it works fine for me. H Or even just if it's ok to keep using this old plugin? AVG is up to H date and seems to work fine, I just wonder whether the plugin is dated. If it ain't broke don't fix it. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.11 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Quoting Abe Lincoln: You can please all the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all the people all of the time. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common virtual
Hello Dan, Sunday, May 2, 2004, 3:53:53 PM, Dan Greenberg wrote: DG What's the difference between a virtual folder and a common DG virtual folder? What's a common folder in general. Can't find it in DG the help file. The common folder is not associated with an email account which is the same for VFs or just plain common folders. IOW it is outside an email account folder tree structure. When using the search (i.e. message finder) feature VF's are common by default which you can subsequently change to associate with an email account by moving the folder below the email account, then moving in to the email account. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common virtual
Hello Greg, Sunday, May 2, 2004, 4:04:46 PM, Greg Strong wrote: GS The common folder is not associated with an email account which is the GS same for VFs or just plain common folders. IOW it is outside an email GS account folder tree structure. I should add the filter places the messages in the common folder. Intuitively it make sense to use common folders when the source of the messages are from more than one email account without regard to whether the folder is just a virtual folder (VF) or just plain common folder. If the filter is just one email account, then it makes sense to move the VF into the email account structure from which the messages originate. This same logic can be applied to a plain common folder. For example using a spam filtering tool such as Popfile which creates an additional header and tags as spam, you could have a filter in each email account to filter on the spam header and place spam messages in a common folder which is not associated with any email account. Later you can review only the one folder to determine if any false positives occur. Remember a common VF is merely pointers to messages in other regular folders, whereas a common folder has the actual messages which were filtered into the common folder from filters within each email account. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Uread Message Tab
Hello MAU, Friday, April 30, 2004, 4:28:12 PM, MAU wrote: M Redundancy. What does it mean? ;-) see http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=Redundancyx=17y=21 -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ritlabs Priorities? / Purge of address book / resize of TheBat.ABD file
Hello Users, TB still does NOT resize the TheBat.ABD after deleting addresses. This bug has been reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002333 and believe it was first discussed in TBBETA last summer. To test my AB is presently 442 KB. I deleted all addresses in the AB. then shut down TB and re-opened TB. The size was still 442 KB. Maybe not a high priority bug, but thought I'd mention it. Given IMAP issues which I feel are more important even though I'm not a heavy IMAP user (i.e. just tried on MyRealBox), IMHO Ritlabs needs to prioritize and fix major bugs with PRESENT feature set. Take care! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have a problem..
Hello tb, Sunday, April 18, 2004, 11:27:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... snip tko Finally, if you have recommendations, let's hear them. Backup! ... snip tko Now, sincere recommendations? I can't say it any more sincere than I've already stated. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail in v2.04.7
Hello Marck, Saturday, March 27, 2004, 1:07:54 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Please visit the library and replace your QTs with the V2 re-writes. MDP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.htm Result after clicking on the link: The page cannot be found However if I go to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html, then click on TB! Regex Macro Repository, then the page http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html opens with no errors. I just thought I'd let you know. Don't know why. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello Minnesotan, Saturday, March 20, 2004, 10:31:56 AM, Minnesotan wrote: Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of traffic to the list? IOW if they are using a news reader which can NOT send mail reduce list volume because it isn't as convenient to send mail. Kind of like a forced lurker mode. M I find it's just as easy to post from a news client (XNews in my M case.) It is my understanding you can NOT post via NNTP but must post via SMTP. IOW a reply must be via email and not through the news reader unless the news reader can send email. I know Agent can send email probably others as well, but not sure which is why I stated this. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmane TB lists volume down?
Hello TB Users, Is it just coincidence that the volume on TB lists appear to have dropped since the start of Gmane? Does the fact individuals reading the list with a news reader and the inability to post directly to the list reduce the amount of traffic to the list? IOW if they are using a news reader which can NOT send mail reduce list volume because it isn't as convenient to send mail. Kind of like a forced lurker mode. Ironically if the Gmane has caused the volume on the lists to drop, then the argument to use a news reader due to volume is kind of mute. I saw a similar comment on TBOT so thought I'd ask the question on the TB lists. I'm just thinking out loud. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane does NOT recognize X-No-Archive: Yes
Hello Allie, Sunday, March 14, 2004, 7:04:08 AM, Allie Martin wrote: AM To prevent your messages from appearing at all, use the header: AM X-Archive: expiry=0 Ok I've made the changes. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Your Message to tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com is Blocked
Hello TB Users, Anybody else getting blocked messages to TBUDL? see forwarded email below. The strange thing is that the message was NOT blocked. See my reply to Allie per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL. This has to be the message the block notice pertains to because it is the only one that I've sent to TBUDL up to this point in time. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 This is a forwarded message From: CxProtect [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 14, 2004, 10:07:10 AM Subject: Your Message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is Blocked ===8==Original message text=== Your Message is Blocked since It contained virus/Spam Mail send by local user or Contained virus which Neutralized and option set as Delete Infected Mail Message was addreessed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===8===End of original message text=== Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Your Message to tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com is Blocked
Hello Greg, Sunday, March 14, 2004, 10:31:06 AM, Greg Strong wrote: GS This has to be the message the block notice pertains to because it GS is the only one that I've sent to TBUDL up to this point in time. ^ this morning -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane does NOT recognize X-No-Archive: Yes
Hello George, Sunday, March 14, 2004, 12:45:14 PM, George Mitchell wrote: To prevent your messages from appearing at all, use the header: X-Archive: expiry=0 Use that header alone. Combining it with 'X-No-Archive: Yes' is unnecessary and can actually cause problems in that these switches are applied as they're encountered. The X-No-Archive header could nullify the expiry header if the former appears after the latter. GM Isn't 'X-No-Archive: Yes' what you need to avoid being archived on the GM mail-archive.com archives? I think what Allie is trying to say is that you have options, and by combining more than 1 option the result may NOT be what is intended. This happened to me, and I was appropriately directed by Gmane's author Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen to see the URL at http://gmane.org/expiry.php which describes those options. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hello Allie, Sunday, February 29, 2004, 6:09:47 AM, Allie Martin wrote: AM b) Despite the reassurances, there'll likely be some who will not want AM to have their posts mirrored to the server and archived there. They'll AM be able to easily do so by including the X-No-Archive header in their AM messages. Those using the server will miss those messages. This maybe something I choose to do with TB to opt out. So make sure you make the announcement if and when you go live. AM c) When replying to posts, you'll have to reply to the list address AM and not the news server since sending messages to the server will be AM barred for security reasons. If a member reads from news and has no mail option in TBUDL, then how will the references be available when replying with email. If no work around or at best a clumsy one, then users with this configuration will lose threading in their replies. IMHO a major point of the TBUDL. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hello Allie, Sunday, February 29, 2004, 8:52:42 AM, Allie Martin wrote: AM Those reading via NNTP will have to use their news client to reply. AM However, they'll be sending their reply to the list address and not AM the news server. References should be preserved in that way. If references are not obliterated, then any domain names will be published via news group. If the references which are part of the header are disclosed, then my question is what does the news services do to the headers to provide anonymous services? I haven't looked at the services provided by the news service. Do those previously disclosed links explicitly discussed what is hidden? I am a a little wary of news groups even though I prescribe to them, but I do so without EVER divulging an email address. MY ISP upgraded their news services last year. I blindly followed their instructions for Agent on the upgrade. I preceded to have the account completely filled with infected spam on a daily basis. The account mind you has a capacity of 10 MB. Now think of it 10 MB of attached viruses. I was glad I used a throw away email account. I subsequently learned that all I had to do was put a dummy email address in Agent, and only provide the REAL email address in the news server's authentication login which was never part of the headers. Mind you this was after countless inquiries to my ISP's support with regard to their new policy. The ISP support never suggested the correct fix. Needless to say I am a little wary of these type of situations. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hello Allie, Sunday, February 29, 2004, 11:35:58 AM, Allie Martin wrote: AM The domain names within headers may be obfuscated as well. ^ key operative word -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hello Joseph, Saturday, February 28, 2004, 9:10:11 AM, Joseph N. wrote: JN What do others think of managing the volume of this list? No. TB is an email program, and being on a mail list facilitates learning new features. This has been brought up several times in the past, and has never gotten off go. Sorry you will NOT sway me on this. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hello Peter, Saturday, February 28, 2004, 10:14:27 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM I even installed MyGate to use The Bat! for newsgroups too. :-) When I'm reading newsgroups I read a news reader. TB is not a news reader. At least not yet. I can see where this thread is going so I might just as well stoke the fire. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
Hello Mark, Saturday, February 28, 2004, 10:57:48 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: M Does it make any difference if you owe me 7 or 07 beers? ;-) MW Or 007 (cue the theme music...) MW This is the silliest argument I've seen on the list in some time. MW Maybe we should designate Friday as official OT Day on tbudl. We could MW sing TB songs, write TB poetry, annoy the moderators... It really is isn't an argument, but an issue to avoid confusion for new users of TB. I am no TB expert, and am always learning about TB. So when I see something which may cause confusion for a new user I bring it up. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter as Junk?
Hello Allister,
Friday, February 27, 2004, 1:17:35 PM, Allister Jenks wrote:
AJ I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the
AJ account I use on websites when I have to.
You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection.
,- [ Web Page Template to hide Email address ]
| html
| head
|
| script language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
| !-- Begin
| function email(user, domain, suffix, displayname){
| document.write('a href=' + 'mailto:'
| + user + '#064;' + domain + '.' + suffix + ''
| + 'Contact\/abr');
| }
| // End --
| /script
|
|
| title/title
|
| /head
|
| body
|
| p align=centerscript language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
| !-- Begin
| email(ActualUserName, ActualDomanName, ActualDomainExtension);
| // End --
| /script
| /p
|
| /body
| /html
`-
I believe this should hide your email address on web pages from robots.
--
Best Regards,
Greg Strong
Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBUDL Current version?
Hello TBUDL, Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Shouldn't it be 2.04.7? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
Hello Marck, Friday, February 27, 2004, 9:49:04 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more MDP logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. Whatever, but Help | About says 2.04.7 and so does Ritlabs at http://www.ritlabs.com/ and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 4:47:56 AM, MAU wrote: M Is that what you M mean? NO. If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see it is NOT selected. BUG? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] SpamCop
Hello MAU, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 6:56:49 AM, MAU wrote: M Have any of you noticed any change in the last few days on the behaviour M of SpamCop (i.e. when logging in to finish spam reporting)? Yes, but maybe it is related to the new account I'm using because I shut down the old email address for an old SpamCop reporting account. I reported 2 spam email this morning. The first did not give me an option to click on the button to report because the email had been previously reported. This has never happened on the old account so it could be related to the new account, or as you suggest new behavior. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 6:19:39 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you GS are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see GS it is NOT selected. ST It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite ST clear what to do... M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one ST should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent ST folder's? Ok I now see what you are saying. I still feel there is inconsistency here. Shouldn't there be a default order here which should provide some insight as to what No view mode should be used? Don't get me wrong because I think View Modes are GREAT, however I do feel it is this inconsistency which make them difficult and confusing to learn. How could you have a folder specific No view mode if you had a View Mode previously selected? So a proposed hierarchy could be to inherent the No view mode of the parent, and if none for the parent to default to the account-wide No view mode. Which raises the question: Where are account-wide No view mode defined? Just thinking out loud, and excuse me if I'm all wet. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question About Reply Templates
Hello Chris, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 7:36:09 PM, Chris wrote: C I was wanting to change it so that on a message that I reply to, it C will have the following: Close but not exact. You can tweak it. Begins Here Hello %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, %OFROMNAME wrote: %Quotes %Cursor -- Sincerely, Your Name ===8==Begin Original Message=== From: %OFROMNAME %OFROMADDR To: %OTOLIST CC: %OCCLIST Date: %ODateEn %OTimeLongEn Subject: %OSUBJ %OTEXT ===8==End Original Message= Ends Here -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] SpamCop
Hello Greg, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 9:54:40 AM, Greg Strong wrote: GS I reported 2 spam email this morning. The first did not give me an GS option to click on the button to report because the email had been GS previously reported. Probably my mistake. New account indicates silent reporting about source of mail where old account did NOT state this. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 9:35:10 AM, MAU wrote: Now look at the folder where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see it is NOT selected. M Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough, but that is exactly what I M mean when I say that Use by ... should also and actually be UseD M (notice the D) by Use by =/= Used by. Whatever. I don't get to hung up on past tense and present tense. I thought you meant what was actually in the UI. Maybe I may have made a slight grammatically error, but my point is I think it is a BUG. You should see folders selected for the view mode your looking at under the options | preferences that you have set from the main window. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configure X-Header field
Hello Carsten, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 6:09:45 PM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: CGS What exactly is this TLS? Transport Layer Security Google is your friend! See http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2246.html. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View modes in 2.04.7: what the H happened?
Hello jwayne, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 6:19:17 PM, jwayne wrote: j I'm stuck in j my Subject Received mode and can't change to any other mode! In the main window what is selected under View | Global View Mode? If it is something other than No View Mode, then you have a global view selected across all folders. Change it to No View Mode and individual folders will have independent VM settings. Select individual folder VMs by the following: 1 right mouse click one of the column headers in the message list pane | select which VM you want in the 2nd grouping. 2 right mouse click the folder | folder view mode | select VM you want in 2nd grouping 3 right mouse click the folder | properties | column settings | select Use view mode VMname I haven't check it out yet but you can set up individual settings for a folder without having a VM name which will save the settings for that folder. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder View Modes
Hello Arjan, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 7:09:42 PM, Arjan de Groot wrote: ... snip | 3 Browse Ticker Messages ... snip AdG 6 Browse Ticker Messages 6 = 3 -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View Modes choices Not same
Hello TBUDL, Should the view modes selected be the same without regard to how you look at them? View Modes in Option | Preferences | Messages | VM | select VM | click Used by ... are not the same as when in Main window Folder Properties | column settings | Use view mode VMname or when in Main window and right mouse click folder | Folder view mode | selected VM. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.04.7 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Virtual folders - a nice way to save, repeat and view Message Finder searches
Hello MAU, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 9:52:25 AM, MAU wrote: M So, I was going to make a feature request to be able to save Message M Finder settings, not just the string history but the Options and M Advanced tabs settings to be able to easily reproduce the search when M needed. ... snip M If you like this idea and would like to support it, please go to: M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002598 Bug Note: You have my vote for saved searches, and not just history. Saved searches is a feature that I have missed since I quit using VA about 2 years ago. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
