FR: always visible/opened mails in thread view
Hello TBUDL, message list displaying in thread view should have the feature to mark messages as always visible or if not explicitly closed since the list got activated, just like it is with the selected message. This could also mean to use the flag attribute or some colour group as an indicator. Interested? -- shinE! B) GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The worlds smallest email?
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 27. Jan 2005 at 16:10:01 +0100 Gerard wrote: I would like to let the ISP know, but I have no idea which account it was send to because it ends uo in my common spam folder :( Do you have a local spam proxy? I've encountered that POPFile (or the combination with TB) killed emails here.. :/ -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FR: UI: extend quicksearch
Hello TBUDL, The user interface of the Bat should really get improved: If you Alt-Tab to TB (and in general) you should be quickly able to access a certain message. That is not possible ATM: You come there, the focus might be in the folderlist or messagelist, or the preview window (but unlikely). You have a 59% to assume the right pane. So you look around. Where is the blue blackground? Ah. I've to tab to the folder list. The feature of typing a folder might help, and.. it helps. But I have several folders of that name. I seem to have only a chance of getting the first one. Cursor down. Tab. I want a message from a name I remember and like to type it just in. It catches it. So, right-click the address to create a new mail (uh? there's Mail Chat but not New mail?). Copy Link. Ctrl-N. Paste. Tab. Tab. Subject. Text. But it can happen that you type and think there might be an easier was to get a new message started to someone from a folder you just remember. At least I think you can Ctrl-Enter through the quicksearch results of the list window, but it might be more intuitive. Think about it.. :o) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: reply to html mail with Outlook without image download (was: Re: New Competition for The Bat!)
Hello TBUDL, on Tue, 14. Sep 2004 at 15:06:02 +0100 Bryan Anderson wrote: Then I want to replya window pops up saying that I have to connect to the server and download the imagespress OK or Cancel. No option to reply WITHOUT including the images or reply and not download them at all. So I don't replyI have to make a new email and copy and paste the original text. I convert all emails to plain text and that would not probably not cause the need to download the images. You're correct about the stupid ok/cancel choice, but you could convert the email to plain text before replying - I believe. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scrolling with Space/Alt-PgDn (was: Re: What is a natural email system?)
Hello TBUDL, on Mon, 6. Sep 2004 at 13:42:21 -0400 Chris wrote: Very annoying, because you mostly lose the line you were reading when it comes to the last page of a mail. I think that all programs should visually indicate where the last line went when one scrolls. Perhaps the line could underlined for a moment before fading out? But, this would only be useful if it were implemented system wide... IMHO this indication would be excellent, but the simple scroll the last line to the top of page would be much easier AFAICS and would be all we'd need. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is a natural email system?
Hello TBUDL, on Sun, 5. Sep 2004 at 11:40:02 +0300 9Val wrote: a) Alt+arrows/PgUp/PgDn in message list scroll message As Alt-PgDn seems to be related to Space, which also scrolls down by one page, there is this very annoying behaviour, when it comes to the last page and it's been scrolled not by one page, but only the amount of lines so that the end of the mail is at bottom of the window. Very annoying, because you mostly lose the line you were reading when it comes to the last page of a mail. Could you please fix that? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new msg under TB! or TB! on top of new msg
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 19:36:44 -0400 Jan Rifkinson wrote: I must have missed a setting somewhere but this is a PITA. How do I change it? TIA Probably a 3.0.0 bug - but have never heard about it. Are you using mouse x-hover or sth the like that changes focus on windows? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BUG: TB 2.12.03: CC hanging, not releasing dialup connection
Hello TBUDL, Just returning to the computer I had to see that TB! hung the connection center, leaving the dialup connection open (which I've manually hang up before the screenshot). TB! is still thinking that the connection is open (it says Connected in the Connection tab), though it says FETCH - Could not connect to the server for the regarding account (mailinglisten). Rather bad and I add it to the various glitches with the CC.. :/ *update* screenshot converted to 2 colors because of file size. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 20:46:13 -0700 Dennis W. Greer wrote: The funny thing is Outlook is now a better client than TB!. Top posting good. Bottom posting annoying! Found a nice tool for my Outlook at work: Quotefix. A must-have for Outlook (and OE). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 b1
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 2. Sep 2004 at 15:25:29 +0200 Peter Fjelsten wrote: DG I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I DG abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says DG tasks are still active. Clicking Abort on the can't close dialog DG does no good and I'm forced to kill TB from Task Manager. Exactly! POP3-mailboxes and MyGate. The same without MyGate. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: TB 2.12.03: CC hanging, not releasing dialup connection
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 2. Sep 2004 at 19:58:19 +0200 I wrote: *update* screenshot converted to 2 colors because of file size. let me see you stripped.. :/ -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 12:13:28 +0200 Graham Dodd wrote: Anyone got any other suggestions for mail clients ? This is my list-to-test.. mahogany Thunderbird Becky Pocomail Bloomba Foxmail -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug: TB keeps asking to set as default mailer on XP non-admin account
Hello TBUDL, after giving the users on this computer user-only permissions and re-installing the Office XP suite again the default E-Mail client was Outlook (forgot to disable that component). Now TB asks with every program start if it should be set as the user's default email program and I always say Yes, but it keeps asking. So I pulled Regmon out and it gives ACCDENIED for this: 1.87635440 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKLM\Software\Clients\Mail ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 1.87647201 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKLM\Software\Clients\Mail ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.02317920 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\.msg ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.02327391 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\.msg ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.02360719 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\.eml ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.02367759 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\.eml ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel [here comes the dialog asking for set-as-default] 2.12346346 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\mailto\shell\open\DDEexec ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.12359448 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\mailto\shell\open\DDEexec ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.12381741 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\mailto\shell\open\DDEexec ACCDENIED Access: 0x200 BASE\dAniel 2.12403113 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKCR\mailto\shell\open\DDEexec ACCDENIED Access: 0x200 BASE\dAniel 2.12412360 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKLM\Software\Clients\Mail ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel 2.12422026 thebat.exe:3736 CreateKey HKLM\Software\Clients\Mail ACCDENIED Access: 0xF003F BASE\dAniel Pity. I could give permissions for those keys, but they are system-wide anyway and not user-related, AFAICS. I changed the default E-Mail application to The Bat in the properties of the start menu (show in start menu), but that does not seem to matter. Suggestions? Already bugtracked? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug: AV
Hello TBUDL, after startup.. --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 004043DE in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . --- OK --- -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[St's TB Annoyances] Re: Some tasks are now active
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 14. Aug 2004 at 18:05:37 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Repeat: How do you send TB that /EXIT command (or whatever IPC command) when TB fails to read the file that contains the request? ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** Just try. Open a command window, cd to the path were thebat.exe is, and enter thebat.exe /EXIT. In the time of the wink of an eye, TB will shut down. Just discovered, after changing user rights on the computer that the current user needs Change permissions for the program directory, because TB first wants to delete the THEBAT.IPC file (where it writes the command line /EXIT into) and than exits. If the permissions don't match TB won't EXIT (or catch new mail, or send mail, or whatever commandline option has been used). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: AV
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 18. Aug 2004 at 14:14:42 -0400 Rick Friedman wrote: dh Access violation at address 004043DE in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . I also get this occasionally. on the same address(es)? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: more than just spam/ham classification
Hello TBUDL, on Sun, 15. Aug 2004 at 07:19:14 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: I tried Bayesfilter, but somehow it did not learn as fast as BayesIt. However, I'm using PopFile now and use Virtual Folders to reflect the bucket classification of PopFile (except for spam, of course). But you cannot reflect real bucket classifications like German, English or similar with that, can you? Of course, why not? We discussed that a couple of days/weeks ago. The idea is to set color groups for the text classification and upon the color group of the message show them in virtual folders (color groups only because they can be changed afterwards in thebat, just in case POPfile classified a message wrong) Oh.. I've mis-read your message. I thought you were using another Bayesian Filter, but you're using POPFile, too.. :) That's a pretty cool thing so my reply template can react on that. Never thought about that... separating german and english, nice idea... :-) Very useful indeed. And therefor I don't want to miss that feature.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
more than just spam/ham classification (was: Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.)
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 12. Aug 2004 at 22:54:24 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Bayesfilter Bayesit! I tried Bayesfilter, but somehow it did not learn as fast as BayesIt. However, I'm using PopFile now and use Virtual Folders to reflect the bucket classification of PopFile (except for spam, of course). But you cannot reflect real bucket classifications like German, English or similar with that, can you? That's a pretty cool thing so my reply template can react on that. I'd like to replace POPFile, because it seems to have the potential to lose mails (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), but OTOH all other bayesian filters only support spam/ham classification -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Lifted with The Bat! 2.12.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 2. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again on mailto servers :-)
Hello TBUDL,
on Tue, 10. Aug 2004 at 22:18:05 +0300 Robert Golovniov wrote:
dh Hope this works..
It does not... :-( Perhaps because it was not the only line there. Here
is an example:
X-GPGrelay-Status: This mail was signed (Inlined PGP-Message).
,-GnuPG output follows (current time: Mon, Aug 09 2004 - 08:11:53)--
[...]
| Signature made 08/08/04 23:01:27 E. Europe Daylight Time using DSA key
ID 5824443B
| no valid OpenPGP data found.
| Total number processed: 0
| Can't check signature: public key not found
|
`---
I don't understand if all the above gets put into your header.
Please try to understand what the regular expression does and try to
adjust it.
If the above gets really into the mail header then you'd have to use
this:
%SETPATTREGEXP=| Signature made[^\n]+key ID ([0-9A-F]{8})\n%-
%SUBJECT='GET 0x%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADER%SUBPATT=1'%-
please note: only the regular expression got adjusted.
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Re: Again on mailto servers :-)
Hello TBUDL,
on Tue, 10. Aug 2004 at 16:24:53 +0300 Robert Golovniov wrote:
dh %SETPATTREGEXP=key ID [0-9A-F]{8}%-
dh %SUBJECT='GET 0x%REGEXPMATCH=%OSUBJECT'%-
Daniel, the subject became just a GET 0x So, the other digits are
still missing. Any idea what could be adjusted?
The %REGEXPMATCH should not be done on %OSUBJECT, but on %HEADERS.
You should also expand it to only match this specific header:
%SETPATTREGEXP=X-GPGrelay-Status:[^\n]+key ID ([0-9A-F]{8})\n%-
%SUBJECT='GET 0x%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADER%SUBPATT=1'%-
Hope this works..
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Re: Again on mailto servers :-)
Hello TBUDL,
on Mon, 9. Aug 2004 at 16:37:44 +0300 Robert Golovniov wrote:
Can I create a filter that would automatically extract this portion of
the header (in this case, CDCC10F2), make it into the 0xCDCC10F2
format, put this into the message subject and then send the message to
the respective public key address?
You should make a filter that looks for the regexp key ID [0-9A-F]{8}
in the kludges.
In the filters action you creat a new mail then, using this to set the
subject:
%SETPATTREGEXP=key ID [0-9A-F]{8}%-
%SUBJECT='GET 0x%REGEXPMATCH=%OSUBJECT'%-
This is not tested, but should work in general.
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Re: Steps to disable sending of messages - this is a bug report for all versions
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 22. Jul 2004 at 13:17:17 -0700 Michael L. Wilson wrote: 7. Press send and nothing happens Cannot confirm. Sent from a virtual subfolder of a virtual folder. I have a default account, but due to writing to TBUDL it was catched by my new-mail-template's check and assigned the specific account (for mailinglists). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 RC/4 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FR: toggle display of header pane
Hello TBUDL, would be nice to have an 'Show header pane' item in the mail editors View menu, allowing to toggle the display of the header pane. Default is 'checked', of course and it should be reset to default for every new window. This would allow to temporarily hide the pane and give more space to the text area. Not a big deal of implementing, but very good for usability. Besides of that I really hope the devs will concentrate more on usability in general. This would include more logical menus and reviewing of setting dialogs and also customizable toolbars. Have a nice day! -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 RC/4 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, following up to myself, because I really want to know who's to blame, TB or POPFile. All the logs are provided, so some of the programmers or other experts should be able to say it. This is so baad.. :( Indeed.. ;/ -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleting message when downloading header
Hello TBUDL, on Mon, 5. Jul 2004 at 23:51:40 +0200 Edgar van Dijk wrote: Does TB! still delete the message when the setting is: Delete after download Download only header when Message size xx kb No. I use this too and the mail will stay on the server and you'll get a note about it. Unfortunately there is at least one bug with that, as it had downloaded a big mail some weeks ago, after I first got the note - during a later message retrieval session. Dunno about the way Outlook handles it. Would you like to explain and perhaps even file a feature wish for it? -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cc vs bcc screwup
Hello TBUDL, on Fri, 9. Jul 2004 at 17:02:47 -0400 jwayne wrote: Any suggestions or tricks (besides BE MORE CAREFUL IDIOT) that can help prevent this in the future? what about using a template to bind the recipients to BCC? like: %BCC=your list goes here%- -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that this may be strange spam. But now I noticed an empty mail which was filtered to Known mail and I looked closer at it: it was from a known person, but all I have are the first headers: -8 X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: X-Text-Classification: english X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg -8 While the message was received the connection was closed. the POPFile log says: -8 2004/7/5 00:34:56 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:34:58 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- 2004/7/5 00:34:59 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message LOGIN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/7/5 00:35:01 2196: pop3: 639: Connected to mail.spamcop.net:110 timeout 60 2004/7/5 00:35:02 2196: pop3: 675: Connection returned: +OK Hello there. 2004/7/5 00:35:02 2196: pop3: 449: USER XX 2004/7/5 00:35:03 2196: pop3: 449: +OK Password required. 2004/7/5 00:35:03 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --PASS XX-- 2004/7/5 00:35:04 2196: pop3: 449: PASS XX 2004/7/5 00:35:04 2196: pop3: 449: +OK logged in. 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --STAT-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: STAT 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 5 18250 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --LIST-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: LIST 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 clients that break here, they violate STD53. 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --UIDL-- 2004/7/5 00:35:05 2196: pop3: 449: UIDL 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --RETR 1-- 2004/7/5 00:35:06 2196: pop3: 449: RETR 1 2004/7/5 00:35:07 2196: pop3: 449: +OK 4008 octets follow. 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message NEWFL:popfile13559=1.msg 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CLASS:english W1DRh6oQYhZws6Hfb 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --RETR 2-- 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: RETR 2 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: -ERR no response from mail server 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CMPLT 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 552: POP3 forked child done 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: html: 357: Got NEWFL for popfile13559=1.msg 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message LOGIN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: -ERR can't connect to mail.planet-school.de:110 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 292: Child proxy message CMPLT 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 552: POP3 forked child done 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 449: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready 2004/7/5 00:35:21 2196: pop3: 194: Command: --USER XX-- -8 and the TB-protocol-log says: -8 [00:34:47] C: Connected to 127.0.0.1, port 110 [00:34:57] S: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.21.1) server ready [00:34:57] C: USER mail.spamcop.net:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:03] S: +OK Password required. [00:35:03] C: PASS xxx [00:35:05] S: +OK logged in. [00:35:05] C: STAT [00:35:05] S: +OK 5 18250 [00:35:05] C: LIST [00:35:05] S: +OK POP3 clients that break here, they violate STD53. [00:35:05] S: 1 4008 [00:35:05] S: 2 2499 [00:35:05] S: 3 1912 [00:35:05] S: 4 3781 [00:35:05] S: 5 6050 [00:35:05] S: . [00:35:05] C: UIDL [00:35:06] S: +OK [00:35:06] S: 1 UID4317-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 2 UID4318-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 3 UID4319-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 4 UID4320-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: 5 UID4321-1081121830 [00:35:06] S: . [00:35:06] C: RETR 1 [00:35:07] S: +OK 4008 octets follow. [00:35:15] S: X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 [00:35:20] S: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:20] S: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:20] S: Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: [00:35:20] S: X-Text-Classification: english [00:35:20] S: X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg [00:35:20] S: . [00:35:20] C: RETR 2 [00:35:21] S: -ERR no response from mail server [00:35:21] C: DELE 1 [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) -8 It seems to be a POPFile error. Is it? This is so baad.. :( -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The
note: mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, on Mon, 5. Jul 2004 at 01:50:19 +0200 I wrote: While the message was received the connection was closed. The log says +OK 4008 octets follow., but only 137 bytes (octets) are received. So, I think it's the fault of TB to think the mail was received and delete it on the next contact with the server. On the other hand, POPFile always adds its headers and therefor the size of what follows will be more than the server responds. This is what POPFile stored in its .msg file: -8 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19: -8 and the TB-protocol-log says: -8 [...] [00:35:06] C: RETR 1 [00:35:07] S: +OK 4008 octets follow. [00:35:15] S: X-POPFile-TimeoutPrevention: 0 [00:35:20] S: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:20] S: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [00:35:20] S: Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2004 19:Subject: [00:35:20] S: X-Text-Classification: english [00:35:20] S: X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:7878/jump_to_message?view=popfile13559=1.msg [00:35:20] S: . [00:35:20] C: RETR 2 [00:35:21] S: -ERR no response from mail server [00:35:21] C: DELE 1 [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [00:35:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) -8 It seems to be a POPFile error. Is it? This is so baad.. :( -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mails lost!
Hello TBUDL, on Sun, 4. Jul 2004 at 21:09:13 -0400 Plan9 wrote: dh I've noticed the last days that I get empty messages, but thought that dh this may be strange spam. I've received 5 or 6 empty messages in the last month; two empty messages in the last two days. Both from an address at swissonline.ch that looks like alphabet soup. I just marked them as spam and moved on. Now you have me considering there may be something else going on. Sorry.. ;) most of the empty mails here are probably spam, too. but this one definitely not. You might want considering looking at the source/headers and into the protocol.ini logfile that TB can create. -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replacing icons
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 3. Jul 2004 at 18:27:16 +0200 Thomas Andersson wrote: My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my harddrive. There is nor original one. Just copy glyphs.bmp into \Program Files\The Bat where thebat.exe lies and you should be done. -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tbot@yahoogroups.com
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 26. Jun 2004 at 13:01:13 -0400 Peter Kerekes wrote: I have not seen any message on TBot for at least a month. I had the same problem, started at the end of March.. when I went to my Yahoo Groups account they said my address was bouncing. Probably it's the same with your account.. -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug: deleted messages stay in Virtual Folder
Hello TBUDL, I have a Virtual Folder SPAM, where the Filter is Colour is Spam. It searches in all folders, except other VFs and some account trash folders. The problem I'm experiencing is that the mails stay in the VF after I delete them from Inbox. I've turned the message folder column of, so this is not the mail that went to trash. Though when the marked messages gets read or assigned to another colour group the VF is updated correctly. This is reproducable, also after restarting. keep bugfixin'.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] PowerPro (http://www.windowspowerpro.com) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: deleted messages stay in Virtual Folder
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 5. Jun 2004 at 20:54:08 +0200 MAU wrote: The problem I'm experiencing is that the mails stay in the VF after I delete them from Inbox. Does it still show if you do a manual Refresh of the VF? I tried that using 'esc' before, but with Folder-Refresh now it works. After doing so, it now also refreshed automatically correctly (at least once). Perhaps that fixed it. Thanks. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Support from RitLabs
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 3. Jun 2004 at 13:05:06 -0400 Jack wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] but the messages come back as non-deliverable. which is a NO-NO for an email company, IMHO. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] WinAmp Advanced Controls (http://www.niversoft.com/products/nadvctrls-en.html) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Something wrong with my quotes macro
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 3. Jun 2004 at 20:06:20 +0100 Martin Webster wrote: However, some replies quote like this: Gregory Positively SPOOFY ;-) [..] | %QUOTESTYLE=%QINCLUDE='initials'%- see the help for %QUOTESTYLE.. (especially where it says L - use the last name of the sender of the original message) You probably want to change it to: %QUOTESTYLE==%QINCLUDE='initials'%- The only solution I have is to not reply to Leif's messages. :^) ..or any other people whose names start with 'L'. You probably have also problems with 'Ian', 'Norbert' and 'Franziska'.. ^^ :) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] The Bat! - EMail client (http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View follow up?
Hello TBUDL, on Tue, 25. May 2004 at 13:00:01 -0600 Leif Gregory wrote: Right click the message, choose Specials, Open Reply, or CTRL-BKSPACE. I wish this would also work in the other direction, so you would find the message that the highlighted one is a follow-up to. I remember to have heard that this is what Ctrl-Backspace does when there is no reply, but am not sure about it. Is this possible? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GPGshell
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 22. May 2004 at 22:38:44 -0500 Marc Lewis wrote: Also, I prefer to clearsign my messages; I was wondering if there was a way for me to have TB! default to OFF for PGP/Mime, instead of Auto. Perhaps an .ini file entry? you'll have to use macro %NOPGPMIME for your new mail template. There is probably already a feature request for a global setting on the Bugtracker. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FR: spell checker for subject, too
Hello TBUDL, Starting using the spell checker I wonder why it does not check on the subject. If someone should also like this and if it's not on Bugtracker already, please feel free to put it into there. Thanks.. :o) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello bats, on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 10:29:41 +0200 Marco Lackovic wrote: dh I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that dh will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be dh overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible dh with the %ABnnnLANG macro. I agree with the usefulness of a language field, but I'd rather put it in every contact than in the group properties. What would be the purpose there? The purpose would be that you can set a default for a group. But you can just set every contact for itself. On the other hand an entry with the contacts would be enough, because you could mass-edit a whole group. I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello bats, on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 15:10:36 +0200 I wrote: I'll file this on Bugtracker later this day.. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002798 -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a macro to access addressbook group information?
Hello bats, on Thu, 8. Apr 2004 at 16:29:47 +1000 Robin Anson wrote: If ToName-AddressBook-Group = AddressbookA/Group1 Have filed a Bugtracker wish item for this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002799 -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Language field for AB contacts/groups
Hello bats, I'd like to see a Language field for address book groups, that will be the default for all contacts in that group, but can be overridden for every contact. This field should be then accessible with the %ABnnnLANG macro. The workaround would be to use the Notes field for this, but that's not very intuitive. What do you think? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do you use 'Extended mouse button functions'?
Hello bats, on Wed, 7. Apr 2004 at 15:04:36 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how to use the 'Extended mouse button functions' that are defined in Preferences System? I've set both to View next unread message and my Logitech Cordless Mouseman Optical Back button invokes this. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit plugin and filters executing order
Hello bats, on Tue, 6. Apr 2004 at 10:44:42 -0700 Michael R Kizer wrote: Does the Bayesit plugin merely base it's calculations on the subject and body of the message? on the raw content/source of the mail, ie all words. a spammer sends some junk mail to the list... if I mark these as JUNK in TB, will it potentially have an effect on legit messages from that group? Perhaps adding the [ABC] from the subject line to the list of words associated with junk mail? It will notice that [ABC] has been used for spam, but significantly less than for legit mail. So, [ABC] would still belong to the group Ham, not Spam. Just curious if I should just ignore spam that comes in via a mailing list, or start flagging it as junk for the Bayesit plugin. No, you should mark every spam. This way a Bayesian filter will catch also the spams sent to a list (because of other words that belong to the Spam group). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit plugin and filters executing order
Hello bats, on Tue, 6. Apr 2004 at 10:24:26 -0700 Michael R Kizer wrote: I'm assuming that the Bayesit plugin runs against all incoming mail prior to any of the filters, so that's why I am seeing some of my mailing list messages tagged as SPAM. Correct. I suppose I could add a bunch of entries to the Bayesit plugin's whitelist, but I hate duplicating what's already in my filters. AFAIK Bayesit is not able (due to the plugin API) to insert headers into the mail (eg with a spam score). If that was possible you could remove the tickmark in the Spam plugin config to move the mail into Junk folder and filter on that Bayesit-headers. Nevertheless you should re-train Bayesit with the mails it got wrong and you probably won't notice it, if they get filtered correctly anyway. So, with the current setup you are somehow forced to re-train and that's good for Bayesit's learning capabilities. I for myself use POPFile, which uses the same approach (Bayesian), but is a lot more useful, as it can have as many buckets as you want. Eg, I have spam, english, german, admin and PGP. Accuracy is 99.62% for 28293 mails - which is awesome. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Get Held Mail into Spamcop IMAP account
Hello bats, I just got a paid Spamcop account and so it came that I'm fiddling around with TheBat's IMAP support for the first time. I want to have the Held Mail folder in my Spamcop-Account folder list, but I cannot manage to get this done. Creating a new folder with that name fails, because File exists, but the existing one does not show up anywhere. What's wrong? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get Held Mail into Spamcop IMAP account
Hello bats, on Mon, 05. Apr 2004 at 10:49:07 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: I want to have the Held Mail folder in my Spamcop-Account folder list, but I cannot manage to get this done. Creating a new folder with that name fails, because File exists, but the existing one does not show up anywhere. I have to ask the obvious. :) Of course.. :) Have you checked if the folder shows up in the Manage IMAP folders panel. If it doesn't show up, try hitting the 'reset' button for the folder list to be refreshed. It does not show up there and Resetting does not bring it there either. Just INBOX is there, with Synchronise checked (All messages). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get Held Mail into Spamcop IMAP account
Hello bats, on Mon, 5. Apr 2004 at 12:26:07 -0500 Jonathan Angliss wrote: You could try the down and dirty method... telnet imapserveraddress 143 Wow, that did it. The LIST command said: -8 A02 LIST * * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.Held Mail * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.Trash * LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX.sent-mail * LIST (\Marked \HasChildren) . INBOX A02 OK LIST completed -8 -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Every Email is seen as Junk
Hello bats, on Mon, 5. Apr 2004 at 19:11:13 -0400 Ebaystuff wrote: I looked at the log and saw where The Bat had deleted ALL of my emails on the server. Most of them were from Known users. what does the account log say exactly? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/14 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where are the settings for headers to show stored?
Hello bats, on Sat, 3. Apr 2004 at 11:21:04 +0200 Marek Mikus wrote: The definitions I made (custom headers like POPFile-Link) are available in the RMB menu, but the information that they were set to be displayed got lost. I have discovered this problem week ago and I have added it Bugtraq already: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002749 Thanks. Stef knows about it, but new Filtering system has the highest priority now :-) Of course.. :) but this should be easy to fix, too. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
where are the settings for headers to show stored?
Hello bats, I wonder where thebat stores the information of what header fields should be displayed in the preview pane, folder view or Edit Mail Message window. Just packed my bat installation at home by copying the whole program folder and exporting the HKCU\Software\RIT registry key and started in on a laptop at home, from the same path and after importing the registry data. Everything works good, except that I get the default headers only. I can, however, rightclick in the header field and select from the list the things I had displayed there at home and TB will remember them. But why did I lose those settings when transferring the installation? The definitions I made (custom headers like POPFile-Link) are available in the RMB menu, but the information that they were set to be displayed got lost. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
Hello bats, on Wed, 31. Mar 2004 at 06:02:16 +1000 Robin Anson wrote: Change the Regex pattern as follows: %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?)(?:\n)?(.*)'%- You might need (and I'm guessing 'cos I haven't tried it) %SETPATTREGEXP='^(.*?)(?:\n)?(.*)$'%- Both should work. See Carsten's answer to my similar question at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In your case you need it because your regEx ^(.*?)(?: - .*)?$ has a non-greedy .* and the second part is optional. Therefor it does not match anything and you will have to bind it to start and end.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding text to subject line - solved
Hello bats, on Tue, 30. Mar 2004 at 12:22:59 -0600 P.Johnson wrote: ...Not sure what the #%- signifies (in the first line of the template)? RA The # is a delimiter, everything between the first and second instances of RA # are what happens if the from address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for letting me know. This info opens up a whole new world of possibilities for macros, which have always been something of a mystery to me. :-) Yes, they are kind of confusing at first, but after you did some on your own you will getting used to them and even understand them.. :) You should also know, that not only '#' is a delimiter, but also '', ', '_' and a bunch of other characters. If you nest some macros that already use '' and ' you have to use something different two group these macros. That's why I used #. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
Hello bats, on Tue, 30. Mar 2004 at 01:30:45 -0500 rich gregory wrote: DH %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?\n)(.*)'%- DH %REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt)%- DH %WRAPPED(%SUBPATT(1)) DH%SUBPATT(2)%- It works SOMETIMES! Occasionally I get no signature at all with this code. I think the failures only occur in single-line entries, those that do not contain a \n and citation. Yeah, of course. Because without a newline it will never match. Change the Regex pattern as follows: %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?)(?:\n)?(.*)'%- That will make the \n optional and if it gets matched, it won't be inserted into the %SUBPATT stack, because of the '?:' after the opening parenthesis. Hope that will do it.. :) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Mon, 29. Mar 2004 at 09:05:57 +0200 Roelof Otten wrote: DH what do you have there? DH (HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell\open\command) C:\PROGRAM FILES\THE BAT!\THEBAT.EXE /nologo /o:%1 I have that there, too. And opening .msg/.vcf files does actually work. And even changing my HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe\shell\open\command to D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe %1 (from the above), opens files either with the default handler (after tb pops up for a short time) or nothing happens (eg for files with no extension). BUT when TB is not running and I open a file with it, it gets appended!! and if it has a default handler, it will be executed with that, too. Just tested it with a .py file: TB creates a new message (it was shutdown before) and the script gets executed. So, that's weird.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Mon, 29. Mar 2004 at 20:35:50 +0100 Martin Webster wrote: [..] What has all this got to do with the problem in hand? Debuggin'.. :) This is the first time you've mentioned vCards and other legitimate file associations. And don't be so quick deleting those registry entries! :-) They have being restored. When deleting I always create beackups, that's for sure. Have you tried changing the registry entry to match what Roelof and I have? Roelf has nothing in HKCR and also /nologo /o: with the legitimate associations, like me. Also, what happens when you use the Send To Mail Recipient shell extension? Does TB! hang? No. It's called E-Mail-Empfänger (email recipient) here, which is a MAPIMAIL file. This creates a new mail and appends the file, as it should be. But TB does not execute a mail template in this case, but gives a silly subject write email to: thebat.exe and the body says The files were attached and can now be send with this message (both translated from German). I guess, this is something Windows puts in when it calls TB!? Then I realised that I do not have the standard The Bat! in my SendTo folder anymore and I was quite sure, that some registry setting in HKCU\Software\RIT was remembering that it had setup one, but actually I cannot find that registry key anymore. Do you have something like that in yours? And I could not find a Install SendTo button in the Preferences.. but just putting a .lnk file in the SendTo folder resolves that for me.. ;) Fiddling around with all these association stuff I noticed another strange thing: If I uncheck all associations in Preferences -- Applications and click on Associate Now TB says: --- The Bat! --- OK to set associations? Previous associations can be restored by clearing checkboxes and clicking this button again --- Ja Nein --- That's bad design and definitely a bug (confirmations?). But it un-associates the extensions, except mailto:, which is checked the next time I open Preferences. Probably because I never set another mailto-handler, though I'm pretty sure that OE would have set itself to that. Perhaps your best option is to reinstall TB! I don't think that would help much. In fact, I only have the problem that files (except .msg, .vcf and .eml) opened with TB will not be handled properly. But I never did this before and do not plan to do it again and so everything is fine. Just wanted to make a note and best would be the devs would take a look into that, but I guess it's simply another not important bug.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: QT manager gets lost if you close edit mail msg window where you pressed ctrl-shift-Q
Hello bats, on Mon, 1. Mar 2004 at 03:57:00 +0100 I wrote: To reproduce: - open edit mail message window - press ctrl-shift-q - close the edit mail message window (QT manager will also disappear) - press ctrl-shift-q (TB main window will flash, but no QT manager) got an ID: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002722 -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create filter
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 14:41:48 +0200 Jean Site wrote: Just tested it here, to set a filter like you did (ctrl-shift-F), leave the defaults and set the same filter again. A new folder will be created with the From-name on the first call, but the Create Mail Filter fields default to the same strings on the second call. I don't understand this explanation. Now, I'm trying to explain what could have shown the attachments There are, according to the languages, two boxes Please refer to the boxes in the english name only. 'Move to folder' becomes 'Déplacer vers le dossier' At the beginning, I see Déplacer vers le dossier : [EMAIL PROTECTED] First step Appliquer au(x) : Courrier entrant (Incoming mail) Déplacer vers le dossier : Bernard (Move to folder) It is the good filter. Messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] go to Bernard's folder Second step I close the box Third step I open again 'Create mail filter' This will actually create a new filter, not open the one that you created just before. Therefor I asked what's in your Sorting Office (ctrl-shift-S). Every time you press ctrl-shift-F (Create New Filter) this gets appended to the end of the filter list. What a pity in 'Déplacer vers le dossier' there isn't Bernard but [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not what I want It's a new filter. Put Bernard in place of [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work! The filter isn't created Where did you look for that? Probably the filter does not work, because there is another filter above in the Sorting Office. The filters are being processed from top to bottom. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 11:40:01 +0100 Martin Webster wrote: DH Not with me. Also not with 2.04.07. I think this is down to the way you've got XP handling files. I think it's because the Open command includes the /o: before the filename (%1). DH It's regardless of size, but does only hang if there is no DH default handler for that file type in Windows defined. Then DH thebat pops up for a very short time and the default app gets the DH file. Just tested it for a php file again. Not sure what you're trying to do here. You should use the Send to shell command instead. Sure, but I recognised it, when trying to open a .tbb file with thebat. Files that don't have a default handler registered are like that for a reason. php files don't have a default handler because your web server deals with them. However, you could assign your editor as the default handler. I have JEdit associated with my PHP files. As for tbb files it makes no sense to assign a default handler. But I tried that. Still not a bug. :-) But I sure we'll sort it. Hopefully. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 11:32:35 +0100 Martin Webster wrote: DH What do you (and Martin) have in DH HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe\shell\open\command ? DH With me its D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe /nologo /o:%1 and I DH wonder what that /o switch is.. C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe %1 That's what should be there, I think. Wonder why I got the additional /o: However, I doubt that this entry even existed before I checked things for you. Could be. Do you have HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! vCard file\shell\open\command set? It's with '/o:' for me, too. Same with HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell\open\command. I think that the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe entry could be derived from that, if it wasn't created by the installation. With HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\mailto\shell\open\command it's D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe %1, btw. DH Might this be the culprit or is it the same for you? I think it's likely that something has gone awry with your Windows configuration. I'm sure it's nothing to do with TB! All the necessary registry entries are in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT. The software settings, jep. But not the settings for launching files with the program. Do you run a registry cleaner from time to time? Sure I had, but I know what I can throw out/change and what I do not know I'll leave alone. The above problem seems to be not related to that. Searching thebat.exe (beta12 and 2.04.7) shows that there are entries for /nologo /o:. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 12:16:17 -0600 Jonathan Angliss wrote: Can I get it to show this way: ~~~ I have always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific. - Lily Tomlin ~~~ Sure, don't use the %WRAPPED macro, and put in the single \n where you want it to wrap ;) Or use the %WRAPPED macro and replace \n\n afterwards with \n: %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?\n)\n(.*)'%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%WRAPPED(%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt)%- %SUBPATT(1)%SUBPATT(2)%- You can even auto-indent the author of the cite by replacing the last line with: %SUBPATT(1) %SUBPATT(2)%- HTH.. :) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 11:32:35 +0100 Martin Webster wrote: DH What do you (and Martin) have in DH HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe\shell\open\command ? DH With me its D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe /nologo /o:%1 and I DH wonder what that /o switch is.. C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe %1 However, I doubt that this entry even existed before I checked things for you. I just deleted the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! vCard file and the one for the message files (those are used for .vcf and .msg extensions). Started tb, which did not complain about missing associations, but after explicitly setting it in Preferences -- Applications the command for these classes shows up as D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe /nologo /o:%1 again. I guess that you and Roelof do not have the nologo /o:%1 part there either, as this is what will be put into HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe, when you open a file (even a .VCF by going through the Open With.. context menu - which defaults to The Bat for the .VCF, of course). btw: I use and recommend Regseeker for Find in registry or suggestions for cleaning up. You can get it in the free programs section at www.hoverdesk.net. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding text to subject line
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 13:00:24 -0600 P.Johnson wrote: Is it possible to add text to a Subject Line when forwarding the message, using a QT or filter? of course.. :) I am looking for a fairly quick way to add From Bill Smith to the FWD:... subject line while keeping the original text intact. If there is a way to do it automatically (since it is always the same sender and recipient) that would be great. If it's for a special recipient, I would suggest putting up a Forward template for that entry in your AB. You would then have to define the text (header, ..) of that forwarded message then there, too. Because of that I would suggest that you extend your existing general forward template by checking for the recipient where you want this to be applied and do it then: %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- %Subject=FWD: %OSubj (From Bill Smith)#%- %ModifyOnce(Subject) will ensure, that the Subject is only changed once by the QT (not again, when you edit the header fields, without having changed the body before). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 23:16:45 +0200 Roelof Otten wrote: DH What do you (and Martin) have in DH HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe\shell\open\command ? I don't have such a key. It will be created when using Open with to open a file with TB. I suppose this will be derived from the settings for the VCF- and Messagefile-classes. what do you have there? (HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell\open\command) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cookie macro
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 19:05:28 -0500 rich gregory wrote: Can I get it to show this way: ~~~ I have always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific. - Lily Tomlin ~~~ DH %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?\n)\n(.*)'%- DH %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%WRAPPED(%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt)%- DH %SUBPATT(1)%SUBPATT(2)%- WOW! Amazing. (I don't understand ANY of it.) will explain the new one to you.. :) Are you saying that (with the above enhanced sig macro) the line from the sigs.txt file that generates the desired result example above need only be as follows? I have always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific.\n - Lily Tomlin No, with the above this won't work. But slightly modifying it and we'll get what you want: -8 %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*?\n)(.*)'%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%COOKIE=c:\sigs.txt)%- %WRAPPED(%SUBPATT(1)) %SUBPATT(2)%- -8 This does a regular expression match on the %COOKIE, where the first pattern (in parenthesis) is everything upto a newline, the second pattern is the rest. %REGEXPBLINDMATCH puts these patterns into %SUBPATT. The output is then the wrapped first part with the indented pattern that will match the author in your case. And thanks again! no problem, glad I could help. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Revisiting Mailto Problem
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 23:50:36 + Joseph N. wrote: [FireFox] When clicking File/Send Page, a TB! composition window pops up, but the To: field is full of the mailto address and subject data. confirmed. Eg: mailto:?body=http%3A%2F%2Ftq.local%2Fsubject=thequod.de The subject and body of the new mail gets filled correctly with these values. But the Recipient field should be empty and I guess that is, what Firefox intends by putting nothing between ':' and '?'. The other circumstance when this happens is clicking on *some* mailto links in the same browser; I haven't experienced this lately, but used to; I don't know if that means that the browser code changed or I just haven't come across the offending type of mailto address+subject code recently. Do you get the same results for those links (ie mailto-link in recipient field)? Or is it just missing subject/body? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and CPU usage
Hello bats, on Sat, 27. Mar 2004 at 06:55:23 -0500 BWMarcotte wrote: dh Unfortunately I don't know a way to see what DLL function is executed dh by rundll32.exe. http://www.p-nand-q.com/download/rundll32.html an excerpt from the web page ...patched RUNDLL32 to write its startup arguments to the event log. Once you've installed this tool, you'll see entries like the following in the Event Viewer Application Log: [..] So you know what's up. This is for an NT based system and as I found this just last night I have not tested it on my system. Sounds cool. Great idea, thanks for sharing. Probably useful for Melissa to track it down and I archived it myself in case I could need it. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, I just tried opening a .TBB file with thebat (from Window's Open With menu), hoping that it would display a list of mails in there (especially the ones, that are marked deleted). As expected it does not, but did hang very strangely, consuming all CPU cycles it got. The same with .TBI files. When opening a .RAR file with TB it invokes the default handler for that. Looks like either TB loops with .TBB files because it itself it now the default handler for that?! Or it hangs because it itself locks the file. IMO should simply say Unknown filetype when it's opened with a file and does not know how to handle it. Another option would be to create a new mail and attach the file.. Nevertheless it should definitely not hang.. what do you think? -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sat, 27. Mar 2004 at 23:31:53 + Martin Webster wrote: DH IMO should simply say Unknown filetype when it's opened with a file DH and does not know how to handle it. But Windows deals with the unknown file type. I guess you've gone on and selected a program from the list presented by Windows. yep. DH Another option would be to create a new mail and attach the file. Nonetheless, it should (and does) create a message with the file attached. Not with me. Also not with 2.04.07. DH Nevertheless it should definitely not hang. Perhaps it was a large file you tried to attach? No. It's regardless of size, but does only hang if there is no default handler for that file type in Windows defined. Then thebat pops up for a very short time and the default app gets the file. Just tested it for a php file again. DH what do you think? Not a bug. :-) Not on your side, and probably all the others. But here it is.. :) -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: High-light folder list
Hello bats, on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 16:13:14 +0100 Gerard wrote: Thanks but that just changes the appearance of the msg and subject window, not unfortunately the folder list on the left. This can be changed in Options -- Preferences -- System (at bottom). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: Opening a file with TB!
Hello bats, on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 00:36:17 +0100 Roelof Otten wrote: Tried it over here, with TB 2.04.07, not with the beta you're using, under Win98. TB created a new message with the .TBB file attached. I also tried it with 2.04.07 before, the same result. I now tried calling thebat.exe from cmd.exe with a file as parameter. This time nothing happened at all. I closed thebat, started it from commandline with a filename as parameter and it created a msg with attachment. Woohoo.. it now even works with a running TB instance from commandline. But Open With still does not. What do you (and Martin) have in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\thebat.exe\shell\open\command ? With me its D:\Programme\thebat\thebat.exe /nologo /o:%1 and I wonder what that /o switch is.. Might this be the culprit or is it the same for you? BTW You can see your deleted messages by selecting a folder and in the menu: Folder - Browse deleted messages Wile doing that, you can undelete those messages eith the 'Delete' button Great! Thanks. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
new Bugtracker entries
Hello bats, made some feature wishes and a minor bug report on bugtracker. Perhaps someone cares to support them or has additional ideas. minor annoyance: Changing From (Name|Address) in Account Properties will set according Reply-To, if empty https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2706 Description: IMHO Reply-To information should not be used if it's the same as the From information. But if you change the From Name/Address in Account Properties the information will be put into Reply-To Name/Address information, if these fields are empty. feature wishes: (Un)check all (folders) buttons in Message Finder https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2707 Description: I'd like to see two buttons near the Message Finder's folder list: Check all and Uncheck all. Because sometimes I'm searching for something I don't remember in which account it was and have to manually check them all. It would be even greater to have more functionality here to define special folders that should be marked (Inbox, Outbox, Sent, ..). These could be checkboxes that will affect the way the (un)select button works. Attach vCard: popup if not existing, giving possibility to create https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2708 Description: When calling New Message -- Utilities -- Attach Personal vCard there should be dialog popping up, if there does not exist a vCard for the account. This popup should have an Ok and a Create button, which results in creating and editing a new vCard (like in Account -- Properties). Macro %OFULLSOURCE https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2709 Description: I would like to see a macro that results in the full, raw message source of the original email, with headers and all boundaries. Perhaps %OMSGSOURCE or %OSOURCE is a better choice. Open with in context menu of attached files https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2710 Description: Would be really good to have open with in the context menu for attached files, where the standard Windows Select Application dialog will come up. The weekend has landed.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new Bugtracker entries
Hello bats, on Fri, 26. Mar 2004 at 20:24:19 -0600 Jonathan Angliss wrote: (Un)check all (folders) buttons in Message Finder https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=2707 Description: I'd like to see two buttons near the Message Finder's folder list: Check all and Uncheck all. What's wrong with right clicking in the folder list? There are a whole bunch of options just like this in there. D'oh.. Great options there. Will close that wish. Thanks for teaching me.. :) Attach vCard: popup if not existing, giving possibility to create I'd have thought it'd just pull the information from what you had entered into the credentials if you hadn't created on already. I've not tested it myself, but certainly a message along the lines of notifying the user they've not created one, and that default values will be used from the account properties. Jep. ATM it simply does nothing. Open with in context menu of attached files I believe this one was on the books at some point, and was going to be tied in with plugins and stuff. Haven't found anything already filed on Bugtracker according to this.. -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc lifted with The Bat! 2.05 Beta/12 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create filter
Hello bats, on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 09:49:17 +0100 Jean Site wrote: The filter don't work with new messages. Take a look at the sorting office, where all your filters are listed and can be managed. This is ctrl-shift-s or Account--Sorting-Office. New filters will be put to the very bottom of the list and I guess you have some filter above that already catches the mail from Bernard. In the accountlog (ctrl-shift-L) you can see what filter moved a message. I open again the box Create mail filter: In move filter i don't find Bernard but the recipient's name [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you mean? the Move to folder field now defaults to the email address, or the filter name? Just tested it here, to set a filter like you did (ctrl-shift-F), leave the defaults and set the same filter again. A new folder will be created with the From-name on the first call, but the Create Mail Filter fields default to the same strings on the second call. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create filter
Hello bats, on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 12:00:23 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: You can either hold down the alt key while dragging and dropping the folder to the desired location, or you can hold down the shift and alt keys while using the down and up arrows to move the folders up or down the tree. It is ctrl-shift when moving with keyboard here. Did you mix it up? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Create filter
Hello bats, on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 11:19:24 -0600 Mary Bull wrote: I can now make a filter, move the folder it creates to the top, move the saved messages out of my sister's old folder to the new one, delete that empty folder, and be more organized that way, freed from a few daily mouse clicks. :) And filtering now works? You can even save the moving of the folder by clicking the folder button on the create new filter dialog and create your desired filter just where you want it from the upcoming Select a Folder dialog. And instead of clicking Ok when back at the Create new Filter dialog you probably want to click Edit instead, to move the new filter up in the filter hierarchy, because they are checked from top to bottom. If a filter does not do what you want it's mostly that it does not get checked for at all or the Move to folder has been reset to Inbox (eg you deleted the original target folder). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and CPU usage
Hello bats, on Thu, 25. Mar 2004 at 14:59:21 -0800 Melissa Reese wrote: After Googling on rundll32.exe, it does seem that this process has its fingers in several different areas of normal operations, so I'm not sure if it's okay to look for a way to disable the process permanently. If, however, disabling this process under normal operating conditions is not a problem, could someone explain to me just how I might go about disabling it at startup? rundll32.exe is not a service that runs all the time, but only for different tasks, where some DLL function needs to be called. Therefor you see the Kerio popup that often for installations etc pp. You can disable rundll32 by creating a Kerio rule that denies execution of it, but that would cause you a lot of troubles, I believe. I did not follow the whole thread, but rundll32 will also be used to execute IdleTasks from advapi32.dll, which changes disk layout according to your Prefetch settings. This should be called every three days (if Scheduler service is running) and your system is idle for some time. But it's been reported that it also can kick in, if you just start a game and results in sluggish performance. You can run in manually by executing: %windir%\system32\rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks Your hdd will be active for some seconds upto some minutes. Depends on previous optimisation. Unfortunately I don't know a way to see what DLL function is executed by rundll32.exe. With procexp from www.sysinternals.com you can view what DLLs are used by a process, but that are quite a few and not simply the one being called. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
renaming an account, sometimes leaving old directory
Hello bats, I renamed my account personal - domain.tld to domain.tld, where TB did not simply rename the subdirectory in MAIL, but left the old folder with protocol.ini and two logfiles created out of it. These three files were not copied into the new folder. I also renamed another account from mailinglisten - domain.tld to mailinglisten (domain.tld), where the MAIL subdirectory was simply renamed, although it also had protocol.ini plus two logfiles. I could not reproduce the first occurrence, but remember having semi-empty folders before, after renaming accounts. What's the cause for that? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.21.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Hello bats, on Fri, 19. Mar 2004 at 08:57:08 + Stuart Hemming wrote: RO No. If it would do that, it should decide on spam on the headers, RO that's not very likely to be a very precise method. sighI expected that./sigh It was possible with an older version, don't know if that feature is depreciated - but it was a setting in the registry at that time. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to all macro
Hello bats, on Tue, 16. Mar 2004 at 16:46:44 +0200 Ciprian Trofin wrote: Could anyone help me with a reply to all macro ? Reply to all works out of the box (Message/Reply to all or simple ctrl-shift-f5), but replies also to yourself, if you're in the recipient list. So I wrote this macro, for my reply-template: -8 %REM=___kill %FROMADDR from CCLIST; for reply-to-all%- %SETPATTREGEXP='(.*)?((,|^).*%FROMADDR[^\w]*)(.*)?'%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%CCLIST'%- %IF:%SUBPATT='0':%CC=''%CC=%SUBPATT='1':''%- %IF:%SUBPATT='4':%CC=%SUBPATT='4':''%- %- -8 It should work, but is not very tested, as I don't use reply-to-all a lot. HTH. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
note: fetching two POP3 accounts from same remote server fails for one of them randomly
Hello bats, on Tue, 16. Mar 2004 at 04:23:22 +0100 I wrote: What now happens, is that when I do Check all accounts (alt-f2 / f11) one of both will fail like this: after looking further into this it has not to be one of the pop accounts for the same server (which is encoded in the smtp username anyway), but seems to be random on all accounts. I have altogether eight, which are all pulled over POPFile, but as POPFile is configured to allow concurrent connection it should accept all 8.. They are all using default network setup, which is dialup and the one that fails (IIRC there were two failing together sometime) fails after establishing the connection. Which is as I expect, but wanted to note this.. It looks like that TB cannot connect to POPFile at all (for the eighth account), but does not log it to the account's session log. IMO thebat should log this error (and what is causing it) to the file defined in protocol.ini.. any idea to track this down more? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Maxium Number of messages or Days settings
Hello bats, refering to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my case I want my Trash folder to drop any emails older than 5 days. and on Sun, 14. Mar 2004 at 23:30:12 -0500 rich gregory wrote: I have both purge AND compress boxes checked under the Trash folders properties. Does it work through Folder/Maintenance? Is it a common trash folder (without account)? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
fetching two POP3 accounts from same remote server fails for one of them randomly
Hello bats, I have redesigned my mailflow and am pulling now two pop3 accounts on the same server, both via POPFile (Proxy). For that I have set the pop3 server for both accounts to server: 127.0.0.1 user: samesmtpserver.com:differentusername password: thesameforbothpoplogins What now happens, is that when I do Check all accounts (alt-f2 / f11) one of both will fail like this: -8 16.03.2004, 03:33:26: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 127.0.0.1 trying subsequent addresses... !16.03.2004, 03:33:26: FETCH - Could not connect to the server -8 I have enabled traffic logging via protocol.ini, but there is NOTHING written into for that failure. POPFile log is also silent about this, so I guess thebat does not really try connecting at all. Both accounts only slightly differ in the username for the POP account, reagrding transport settings. Thought that it was POPFile's setting to use 'no concurrent connections' and therefor TB's request blocking. But this should have been logged in TB's pop3 session log and changing it to concurrent mail catching (with restart of popfile-service) does not help either. POPFile 0.20.1 is still running here. Any hint(s)? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Mon, 8. Mar 2004 at 22:03:43 +0700 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TB can only handle one internet connection at the time, so that when it believes a LAN connection has been established, it won't dial out for the other accounts. but that would mean that also the FETCH tasks for dialup accounts would fail/be terminated. It appears that is not the setup in question: The hamster is on another computer on the same LAN, and there is no reason to establish an internet connection to check mail from there. Taking the tickmark off won't help you with this, I admit. It's even on the same computer, and taking the tickmark off helps - to work around the bug... Yes. The work-around would be to take set Ignore check for all in that account, so the dial-up will kick in for the others. ...or this way - but it would mean to check the account for itself on a regular basis. And dialup will kick in nevertheless for the other accounts, but the SEND tasks won't wait for it. Is your bug that TB doesn't dial out when a LAN connection is established, or that you don't see an error in the log for sent failed? Sent failed is the error. It dials out indeed and gets mail for all accounts, but the SEND is emerges too early (when there is a LAN setting account in check-all-stack). TB should simply not try to SEND mail for dialup accounts before the appropriate connection is up. Here is a technical question I don't know the answer to: If a LAN connection is established, would TB be able to know whether this extends into the internet? If not, it would and should try to send the messages through the LAN. Of course, there should be an error message when this failed. No, it should not send messages through LAN for an account that's dialup. And if it would do so for speed issues it would have to check if the smtp server address is reachable. If not, wait for dialup connection. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sun, 7. Mar 2004 at 13:36:09 +0700 Thomas Fernandez wrote: So the bug does not happen on your system and your local mailserver (if you have any) will be checked only after dialup is up. It doesn't happen, because it is not a bug and I have no tickmark. but the server will be checked only after dialup is on, though TB could check it before (because its on ysour loopback interface). I removed the special network settings for the hamster-account and it works of course like before (apart from that it takes longer until the account gets checked) and stops the bug bugging me, but of course the bug itself is still there. It is not a bug, you tell TB to act the way it does. Solution: Take the tickmark off. No it does not. I tell him to use LAN for this special hamster-account. For all others it should use no special network settings, ergo: Dialup. So, when there are messages to be sent on any account that does not use LAN, the connection has to be established first. That's the bug. TB thinks it can send out the messages on all accounts, when there is just one (independant) account with LAN network settings and fails, of course. TB should simply not try to SEND mail for dialup accounts before the appropriate connection is up. It won't if you take the tickmark off. Correct, but that's a workaround! Hope you understand now, what I mean. Just showing off a bug.. :) It's not a bug. Here is the secret solution: Take the tickmark off. ..to work around the bug, yes. Have I made my point clear now? I don't think it is that difficult to understand, but I thought I already pointed you into the right direction 3 postings ago. seconded.. ;) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sun, 7. Mar 2004 at 10:31:51 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: I just wish to clear one thing up with you. If you have no message queued for sending, does a check all accounts operation occur without error, i.e., does the hamster-local account quickly check Hamster while the other accounts wait until a dialup connection is established before checking? Yup, exactly. Special network settings (LAN) for hamster-local: - immediate checking of hamster-local-account - BUT: failure of queued sending mail on all other (dialup) accounts No special network settings for hamster-local (tickmark off): - no failure of queued SEND on other accounts - (but checking of hamster-local will wait for dialup connection, of course) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sun, 7. Mar 2004 at 13:29:11 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: DH Yup, exactly. Well, in that case I have to agree with you that what you're experiencing is buggy behaviour. Puh, I'm relieved.. :) Your setup is rather unusual in that most who run their own mailserver will just do everthing with it, i.e., collect all mail with it and then let TB! collect mail from it. We'll also use it for mail deliveries too. Sure. But I just have Hamster here for testing and playing, not for using it (yet). So it's no problem to ignore check-all-requests for it, but it confused me when I noticed the bug and wanted to report it. I'm glad someone finally understands the problem. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 16:48:57 +0700 Thomas Fernandez wrote: The account hamster-local has alternative network settings (Local Area Network or manual connection). All other accounts use the same dial-up connection. Where do you set this? Over here, it can be set once and is valid for all acounts: Options / NetworkAdmin / Network. Not on a per-account basis. see Account - Properties - Network. Take the tickmark off Use specific That would help of course and I could of course set it to use the dialup connection, too - like all the other accounts. But it is a bug that has to get fixed. The server in tb is localhost and I thought Hamster was running, but it wasn't. OK, then TB couldn't connect to it, everything is clear. I started it now, but as I expected, the behaviour is the same. TB checks for mail at localhost and when finished tries to SEND for the main account, but without established dialup connection this fails! s is true for all sending tasks on any account here, regardless of deferred/immediate sending. But nevertheless, if TB fails to connect to my server at localhost it shouldn't abort sending on another account! You didn't mention that it does. Does it? Of course. That's the bug! see subject. If so, I cannot confirm that behaviour. Over here, when TB fails to connect to localhost in one account, the other accounts are not effected. But I suspect your localhost account hasn't LAN network settings activated. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates/Macros
Hello bats, on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 10:10:30 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DH I'll give you a subject cleaner for now: ... and I had to tweak it: This gave a double space in the subject when there was a group name. A simple change of the line from this: ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname to this: ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ )*\s* # save topic/listname fixed it. Thanks. Overlooked that. I may replace the one in the Library with this. Fine. My first contribution then.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates/Macros
Hello bats, on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 11:24:17 -0500 David Calvarese wrote: dh That seems a bit complicated, but is in fact very good to maintain. dh And instead fiddling around with different AB templates I simply have dh to adjust my main templates a bit. That sounds like how I'd like to get mine set up. Then go for it.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sun, 7. Mar 2004 at 01:41:42 +0700 Thomas Fernandez wrote: So there is no connection at all. If you take the above-mentioned tickmark off, then only the main modul will try to dial out. If the hamster-account is set to dial out and the main setting says the same, there is likely to be an interference on OS-level. The hamster-account is set to LAN, not to a special connection. Because of this the account will be checked immediately, but it also causes the dialup SEND tasks to be done immediately, whivch fails of course. But I suspect your localhost account hasn't LAN network settings activated. No. There is no tickmark at Use account-specific..., so I have no settings available at all. The main setting in TB is for dial-up, and all accounts follow that lead, rather than have their own settings. So the bug does not happen on your system and your local mailserver (if you have any) will be checked only after dialup is up. I think, you don't understand, what I'm targeting: if there is an account set to LAN, rather than dialup (which all others are, simply because they don't use account specific Network settings) TB will try to immediately send on all accounts, without waiting for an established dialup connection. I removed the special network settings for the hamster-account and it works of course like before (apart from that it takes longer until the account gets checked) and stops the bug bugging me, but of course the bug itself is still there. TB should simply not try to SEND mail for dialup accounts before the appropriate connection is up. Hope you understand now, what I mean. Just showing off a bug.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
WISH: function filter / folder management macros
Hello bats, What about a function filter? That would be a filter that calls an template and looks for the result. This could be something like this: 'nomatch': filter does not match 'match': filter matches Despite of that it should be possible to return a folder where the mail should get moved to or some other useful settings (it would be best, of course to allow all regular filter actions to be (un)set in the function filter). A function filter could be something easy like this: -8 %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'%_result=match'%- %IF:'%ABTOGROUP'='friends':'%_folder=moveto: $Known$\friends'%- ... %_result %_folder ... -8 (I know that there is no %ABxxxGROUP macro, which is as bad as that there is %ABxxxEMAIL only for the primary address. Both are problems due to macro design, because %ABxxxyyy can only return a single string, no list...) or (and that's what I'm thinking of) powerful python code (Pyxie plugin). With that you could group a lot of your regular filters into a single one or simulate a known filter, that puts specific addresses / AB groups into subfolders. Good for this would be to have a macro for creating folders, so the filter template could create a new folder if it needs to (eg message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] who's in AB group 'xyz' which should be moved to subfolder 'xyz\contactname' and it's the first message from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Don't know if there are other folder management macros other than %FOLDERCREATE that could be useful and even this one is not very necessary, as you could create it by hand or with Python code (by physically creating the folder). Just want to spread the idea and hope that the new filtering system will allow something like that. [I already posted this on this list (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), but hidden in another thread] -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, After setting up an local smtp server (Hamster) I found a nasty bug: The account hamster-local has alternative network settings (Local Area Network or manual connection). All other accounts use the same dial-up connection. If I now put a mail in my main (not hamster-local) account's outbox and press alt-f2 or f11 to check all accounts for mail the connection center comes up like in tb-cc1.jpg (see on BT: FETCH for all accounts, SEND for the one with mail), but after a tenth of a second the SEND and hamster-local tasks are removed from queue and I get an error for the sending account: !05.03.2004, 20:40:10: SEND - Could not connect to the server This happens even before the modem hooked up the line. Already filed, please confirm: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002644 -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates/Macros
Hello bats, on Fri, 5. Mar 2004 at 15:25:38 -0500 David Calvarese wrote: Well, I did plunder that for some of them. But I recall getting some really nice templates from the group before. I just don't recall from who. I suggest you tell us what you search.. :) I'll give you a subject cleaner for now: -8 %___%REM=clean subject - by daniel hahler%%- %_oldSubj=%OSubj%- %Subject=%- %SetPattRegExp='(?ix)\A:? ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname (?: (?: (?:aw|antw|antwort|betrifft|fw|fwd|forw| forward|ha|rcpt|re\^?\d*|sv|vs|wg|wtr)(?:\[\d*\])?: ) |\s+ )* (.*?) # the subject \s* ( ([(\[]+ ( (wa[rs][:; ] | pgp | s/mime ).* | fwd ) [)\]]*\s* )* )\z'%- %RegExpBlindMatch='%OSubj'%- %IF:#%SubPatt='1'###:#%SubPatt='1' #%- Re: %SubPatt='2'%- %___%- %- %REM='add note at cursor position'%- %Cursor%IF:'%Subj''%_oldSubj':'*note: subject changed from %_oldSubj '%- %Quotes -8 -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BUG: Having an account with LAN network settings in Check All stack causes failure of SEND for Dial-Up account
Hello bats, on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 09:47:23 +0700 Thomas Fernandez wrote: The account hamster-local has alternative network settings (Local Area Network or manual connection). All other accounts use the same dial-up connection. Where do you set this? Over here, it can be set once and is valid for all acounts: Options / NetworkAdmin / Network. Not on a per-account basis. see Account - Properties - Network. If I now put a mail in my main (not hamster-local) account's outbox and press alt-f2 or f11 to check all accounts for mail the connection center comes up like in tb-cc1.jpg (see on BT: FETCH for all accounts, SEND for the one with mail), but after a tenth of a second the SEND and hamster-local tasks are removed from queue and I get an error for the sending account: !05.03.2004, 20:40:10: SEND - Could not connect to the server The server in TB should be localhost, and if TB cannot connect to that, you have to check whether you have set the same port in hamster and TB. The server in tb is localhost and I thought Hamster was running, but it wasn't. But nevertheless, if TB fails to connect to my server at localhost it shouldn't abort sending on another account! -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates/Macros
Hello bats,
on Fri, 5. Mar 2004 at 17:55:45 -0500 rich gregory wrote:
DH I'll give you a subject cleaner for now:
What does it do?
it cleans the subject when you reply to a mail; removes multiple Re's
and was: parts and the like at the end.
For the mailinglist functionality I have the following:
Getting mailinglist post address out of the headers with some
hardcoded for specific lists (needs Python and plugin Pyxie):
-8
%REM=get correct %TO for mailinglists%-
%PY(
from re import search
r = re.search('([EMAIL PROTECTED])', '''%OTOLIST%OCCLIST''')
if r: tb.set('To', r.group(1))
else:
r = re.search('(?m)^List-Post: (?:mailto:)?([EMAIL PROTECTED])?\n', '''%HEADERS''')
if r: tb.set('To', r.group(1))
)%-
%-
-8
Then comes the subject cleaner (and a script wihch gets the proper
fromaddr for myself).
For the checking if writing to a mailinglist I use the following:
-8
%REM=check if writing to mailinglist%-
%SetPattRegexp='^(.*)@'%-
%_onML=%RegExpMatch=#%-
%___%SetPattRegexp=(?ix)(tbudl|tbbeta|tbdev|tbtech)@thebat\.dutaint\.com
|(tbot)@yahoogroups\.com
|(otherlists)@domain\.com
%___%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%TOADDR%-
%___%SUBPATT='0'#%-
-8
After that I have a variable with the mailinglist name (the part that
matched in the parenthesis) and can use that to generate a nice
To:-headerentry fo ML posts:
-8
%REM='Add mailinglist info to %TO'%-
%IF:%_onML'':#%-
%_oldTOAddr=%TOADDR%-
%IF:'%FROMNAME''%OFROMNAME':%_newTO='%OFROMFNAME on '%-
%TO=''%TO=%_newTO%UPPER=%_onML %_oldTOAddr%-
%-
%REM='No numbered RE: on mailinglists'%-
%SINGLERE#%-
%-
%QInclude='#sig'%-
-8
There is also sth to remove myself from CC-List (if I should do a
reply-to-all):
-8
%REM=___kill %FROMADDR from CCLIST; for reply-to-all%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(.*)?((,|^).*%FROMADDR[^\w]*)(.*)?'%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%CCLIST'%-
%IF:%SUBPATT='0':%CC=''%CC=%SUBPATT='1':''%-
%IF:%SUBPATT='4':%CC=%SUBPATT='4':''%-
%-
-8
In general, I have a 'message' and 'reply' Quick-template (I do not
forward often) that is simply included for my account's newmail/reply
templates and I don't have special templates for folders, AB groups or
contacts.
These QTs both include (%QInclude) a #init template (which gets my
fromaddr, the hello name, checks if the mail should be
signed/encrypted, ..) and afterwards generate the headers (xx
wrote:) and in case of reply cleans the subject, gets the proper
address, ...
That seems a bit complicated, but is in fact very good to maintain.
And instead fiddling around with different AB templates I simply have
to adjust my main templates a bit.
HTH :)
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Re: Avast plugin for The Bat?
Hello bats, on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 13:39:04 +1100 S J Love wrote: There is an Avast plugin for The Bat? Where does one get it? I assume there are nice/simple instructions accompanying? It's bundled with avast. If you have a recent version running, just go to your software list and choose to configure your avast software installation. This will give you the possiblity to activate the plugin. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WISH: macro for message source
Hello bats, on Wed, 3. Mar 2004 at 02:31:16 +0100 Urban wrote: Why is there no macro for the whole message source of the original message? AFAICS the only way to get this is exporting a message to a unix style message file with a filter and read from the file. Is Specials - View Source F9 what you are looking for? Exactly, but I wanted to use that information in a template.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Finder: searching for '([^/]++.|)' and simple '++' fails without using regexp
Hello bats, on Thu, 26. Feb 2004 at 00:53:16 +0100 I wrote: I want to search with the Message Finder for mails containing ([^/]++.|) (without ) in the body, but this is not possible without using regular expressions and escaping nearly every character. [snip] no comments? -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WISH: general filter to move sent/received mails to contact-specific folders
Hello bats,
on Mon, 1. Mar 2004 at 22:50:12 +0100 Peter Ouwehand wrote:
dh That could be simply done with radio buttons:
dh root (Known folder), AB folder, group folder.
The 'root' should be more flexible than just being the Known folder.
in what way? you can of course rename the Inbox - Known folder and
afaik even move it to where you want in your account.
But theres a limit again: I think it cannot be a common folder.
I had another idea yesterday evening:
what about a function filter?
That would be a filter that calls an template and looks for the
result ('match', ''/'unmatch').
That could be something easy like this:
-8
%IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'%_result=match'
...
%_result
-8
or (and that I am thinking of) powerful python code. With that you
could group a lot of your regular filters into a single one or
simulate such an above known filter, except that it would fail on a
missing macro to create folders..
So this is IMHO a very good idea, but would need some more macros
(that could be bind to the filter templates context only, of course).
Good idea?
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